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Channel log from 3 February 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:15 | * vagrantc waves to alkisg | |
| 00:15 | <alkisg> Good morning vagrantc, hi everyone
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| 00:19 | vagrantc: I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly (it's too early in the morning here) but doesn't that change prevent someone from declaring both NBD_SERVER and SERVER in lts.conf?
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| 00:20 | Wouldn't it need an "if [ -z "$SERVER" ]" in front of it?
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| 00:21 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, i was thinking of that...
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| 00:21 | hm.
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| 00:21 | i guess it's possible to have both.
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| 00:22 | * alkisg doesn't need that, but thinks that some people have different application servers than nbd servers... | |
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| 03:34 | <vagrantc> i can't figure out how the initramfs-tools script gets it's defaults if nbdroot/nbdport aren't set...
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| 03:34 | but it clearly does somehow...
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| 03:52 | <alkisg> vagrantc: for nbdroot? it uses the server variable, if nbdroot isn't set... look in ltsp_nbd
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| 03:54 | <vagrantc> and the port?
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| 03:55 | ah, i see ...
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| 03:55 | defaults to 2000.
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| 03:56 | i note that we've got NBD_PORT code also in the initscripts to handle NBD swap...
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| 03:56 | should probably explicitly set NBD_SWAP_PORT, NBD_ROOT_PORT, etc.
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| 03:57 | * alkisg notes that that port needs to be changed :) | |
| 03:58 | <alkisg> Maybe 9572 and up (as multiple chroots might be served) would be a better choice
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| 03:59 | <vagrantc> yeah, there's a handful of services in the 2000 range...
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| 03:59 | though at this point for me, sleep would be a better choice. :)
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| 04:28 | <elias_a> ls
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| 04:29 | Oops :)
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| 04:29 | <appiah> .
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| 04:29 | ..
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| 04:29 | porn
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| 04:29 | End of list!
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| 04:29 | <elias_a> make love
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| 08:40 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:41 | <alkisg> Hi Scotty
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| 08:59 | <vvinet> good morning scotty
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| 09:14 | * _UsUrPeR_ has some questions about xinitrc.d in the chroot | |
| 09:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> It seems that it acts intermittently. This is pertaining to alsa sound settings. I am attempting to set the 'mic boost' setting on the DLW Term 1520 to "0%". Sometimes on login of the client, sometimes it does not.
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| 09:17 | In order to see if the script I put in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/xinitrc.d/I10-micfix , I added a touch > /tmp/micfix. Once I added that to the script, it appeared to work every time.
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| 09:18 | After further testing, I have taken out the touch script in I10-micfix,, yet it's still working.
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| 09:19 | <sbalneav> Sounds like there's a race condition somewhere.
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| 09:19 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: mic boost is an on/off thin not a percentage thing
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| 09:19 | *thing
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| 09:19 | amixer -c0 sset 'Mic Boost',0 on
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| 09:19 | or some such
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| 09:20 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: Typically, I am aware that it's an on/off function, but on this specific motherboard, it's a slider from 0% to 100%
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| 09:20 | at least according to alsa mixer
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| 09:20 | <Gadi> ah
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| 09:20 | remember that your script is sourced, so it must return true
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| 09:20 | <sbalneav> That too
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| 09:20 | <Gadi> what does the script look like?
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| 09:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: right now, the script consists of "alsactl restore"
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| 09:21 | <Gadi> then, it should be:
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| 09:21 | alsactl restore || true
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| 09:21 | <sbalneav> right.
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| 09:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> hmm
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| 09:21 | * _UsUrPeR_ goes to do that | |
| 09:21 | <Gadi> otherwise, you will get intermittent results :)
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| 09:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> >_>
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| 09:21 | huh. ok.
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| 09:22 | <Gadi> if you added the "touch" at the end,
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| 09:22 | that would explain why it always worked
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| 09:22 | because it always returned true
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| 09:23 | * Gadi thinks we need to add a ${channel_name}_SWITCH variable to our sound control.... | |
| 09:24 | * _UsUrPeR_ agrees only because this profoundly affects him | |
| 09:24 | <_UsUrPeR_> :)
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| 09:47 | <vbundi> hey so in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf I have set screen_07 = rdesktop -f xxx.xxx... and RDP_SERVER = 192.xxx.xx... and my terminal is still taking forever to boot, and I'm getting the ubuntu boot splash
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| 09:48 | <Gadi> vbundi: you expected differently?
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| 09:48 | <vbundi> it seems like my i386 image is too big for some of these older slower terminals to processs... is there any way to hack the ubuntu one to make it lighter?
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| 09:48 | <Gadi> running rdesktop once X starts does not impact the boot time
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| 09:49 | <vbundi> I spoke to someone yesterday that setting rdp_server = xxx would bypass X and the ldm environment altogether
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> X, no; ldm, yes
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| 09:50 | <vbundi> alright, so what I want to do is disable some services, but in my chroot machine, it doesnt' seem to be the traditional rc3.d etc
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| 09:52 | is there a way to do this with ubuntu's image?
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| 09:55 | <Gadi> the image does use the standard system for service
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| 09:56 | ubuntu doesnt run things in runlevel 3, tho, it uses S and 2 primarily
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| 09:56 | not that it really uses runlevels anymore
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| 09:57 | but, in any event, the chroot is built from ubuntu packages and uses all the same mechanisms
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| 09:57 | there are some services started by ltsp initscripts
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| 10:01 | <vbundi> well I dont' necessarily want to remove the X server packages, I just want to disable them for now, however I can't find where to stop X from booting up
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| 10:03 | hmm something along these lines?
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| 10:03 | sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
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| 10:05 | <vbundi> well that doesn't work
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| 10:11 | <Gadi> uhm, without X, how will you run rdesktop?
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| 10:12 | <vbundi> it's for an office that 95% of users will be running RDP to a windows TS
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| 10:14 | <sbalneav> rdesktop runs under X.
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| 10:15 | <Gadi> vbundi: there are two types of "slowness" - slow to boot and slow to use
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| 10:15 | which are you trying to solve?
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| 10:16 | ie, once you log into windows, is everything fine?
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| 10:16 | <johnny> slow to think :) that's the one i am :)
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| 10:16 | /me drinks coffee
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| 10:17 | <vbundi> slow to boot
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| 10:17 | <Gadi> so, once you log into windows, all is well?
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| 10:17 | <vbundi> yea
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| 10:17 | the fast terminals dont' have any issue with anything
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| 10:18 | actually this slow one doesn't even want to fully boot for some reason
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| 10:18 | <Gadi> vbundi: what version of ubuntu do you have there?
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| 10:18 | <vbundi> 8.04
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| 10:19 | <Gadi> ah - an old one
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| 10:19 | will you upgrade to 10.04 when it is released?
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| 10:19 | <vbundi> oh definitely, I would use 9.10 if it worked for what I was doing
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| 10:19 | <Gadi> well, we have been doing a lot of boot optimization in prep for 10.04
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| 10:20 | <vbundi> I'm going to be running some VMs off of this server, and 9.10 doesn't like to work with VMware it seems
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> so, you should see dramatic improvements
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| 10:20 | <vbundi> yeah I've heard they are going for boot speed these days
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> well, we have too :)
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| 10:20 | <johnny> you mean vmware doesn't like to work with 9.10
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| 10:20 | get it right..
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| 10:20 | <vbundi> yea it makes sense for sure
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| 10:20 | <johnny> blame the right people..
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| 10:21 | <vbundi> yes johnny my bad
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> if you want to get access to ltsp code as it comes out for ubuntu, you can use stgraber's ppa in the chroot
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| 10:21 | <johnny> the closed source software always gets the blame first :)
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| 10:21 | <vbundi> and really it's not 9.10 either but the newer kernel I believe
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> !stgraber-ppa
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| 10:21 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "stgraber-ppa" :: https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa
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| 10:21 | <johnny> no.. the problem is vmware not working with that kernel.. because it is closed source :)
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> he has been backporting to 9.10 as we go
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| 10:22 | <johnny> Gadi, so.. stgraber did some bootcharts, have you seen anythingfor less powerful thin clients?
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| 10:22 | * alkisg still needs 1 min for an HP T1500 :) | |
| 10:22 | <Gadi> johnny: not as yet - but all ships rise with the tide and whatnot
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| 10:23 | <johnny> alkisg, so.. were there any change?
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| 10:23 | <vbundi> regardless, I should be able to speed things up by disabling services right? Am I better off building a new image from scratch? I can't seem to find how to disable X in the ltsp image I have here
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| 10:23 | <alkisg> I'm not sure, I didn't count seconds... I'll benchmark it more accurately though, I do have a karmic chroot handy
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| 10:24 | <Gadi> vbundi: you need an Xserver for rdesktop
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| 10:24 | rdesktop is an Xclient
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| 10:24 | <vbundi> oh.. yea I guess that makes sense
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| 10:24 | doh
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| 10:26 | <vbundi> so maybe running ice or xfe might be a little easier on the older thin clients?
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| 10:28 | <Gadi> vbundi: we dont run a window manager at all
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| 10:28 | :)
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| 10:29 | your problem does not lie with X or anything about it
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| 10:29 | it lies with all of the prep work to get to X
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| 10:29 | I would suggest you at least start with 9.10
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| 10:31 | and then you can make some decisions, like - is it faster if I turn off local device support (LOCALDEV=False)
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| 10:31 | or sound? (SOUND=False)
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| 10:31 | <akuepker> Gadi: SHELL_3 = "rdesktop" (or whatever the syntax is) doesn't work anymore?
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| 10:31 | <Gadi> SCREEN_03 = rdesktop
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| 10:31 | like that?
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| 10:32 | <vbundi> yea thats what I'm doing
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| 10:32 | <Gadi> should be fine
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| 10:32 | <vbundi> and it doesn't seem to work on the wimpy clients
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| 10:32 | ah maybe it's not case sensitive
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| 10:32 | <Gadi> it works, it just takes a long time to boot
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| 10:32 | I thought
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| 10:33 | <vbundi> hey so in my old ltsp 4 setup I have screen_01 = rdesktop -f 192.x.x.x
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| 10:33 | now there is an RDP_SERVER line
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| 10:33 | would I set RDP_SERVER = 192.x.x.x.x and then just screen_01 = rdesktop?
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| 10:34 | <Gadi> you can use the same syntax as in ltsp4
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| 10:35 | <Gadi> just make sure you have quotes around it, like: SCREEN_07 = "rdesktop 192.168.0.253"
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| 10:35 | <vbundi> oh shit
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| 10:35 | I seem to be missing that. thanks
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| 10:36 | <Gadi> double quotes are needed when the value has spaces
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| 10:36 | <vbundi> yeah
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| 10:36 | didn't notice I was missing em
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| 10:37 | hey so would you recommend building 9.10 using just server and starting from scratch or is the alternate cd "install an LTSP server" still a good way to go
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| 10:38 | <Gadi> are you only going to boot to windows?
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| 10:39 | if the ltsp server is not going to be an application server, you don't need to install a desktop on it
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| 10:39 | (unless ur a gui kind of guy)
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| 10:39 | :)
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| 10:39 | <Gadi> otherwise, install just a server, then apt-get install ltsp-server
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| 10:39 | and build the chroot
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| 10:40 | <vbundi> yeah I kinda prefer not to have the gui
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| 10:42 | although it is kinda nice to have X for running gui apps over ssh like wireshark
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| 10:42 | not really a tcpdump expert
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| 11:25 | <dro> pmatulis: i'm still working on my iscsi guide, one of my customer's buildings burned down......thank goodness for offsite backups
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| 11:33 | <CAN-o-SPAM> dro: wow
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| 11:33 | <dro> CAN-o-SPAM: yea wow.....fires suck
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| 11:34 | could have been worse
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| 11:34 | just the server room went up
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| 11:34 | <CAN-o-SPAM> uh oh
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| 11:34 | not your fault i hope? ;)
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| 11:34 | <dro> lol nope
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| 11:36 | <CAN-o-SPAM> any pictures? id be curious to see
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| 11:37 | <dro> CAN-o-SPAM: nope sorry, I'll ask to see if anyone took some. they've already bull dozed the old building
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| 11:37 | well not bull dozed but knocked it completely over and started taking the leftovers and removing them
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| 11:38 | <CAN-o-SPAM> sounds like that was a pretty fast operation
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| 11:39 | <dro> yup it was at a school, obstructed the walkway to the tech connect/wood shop building
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| 11:56 | <Ahmuck> using a thin client to do some vm work and building in the vm. however there must be a slight delay and as a result i'm getting sssssssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudddddddddddddddoooooooooo
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| 11:56 | is there a way to keep the keys from repeating ?
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| 12:11 | <johnny> that's specific to the app
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| 12:11 | check the preferences if it's a gui terminal app
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| 12:11 | if it's not.. you're gonna have to read how to do it from /etc/profile
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| 12:16 | <knipwim> hey johnny
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| 12:17 | concerning http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wimmuskee/ltsp/ltsp-gentoo-dev/revision/1492
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| 12:18 | <knipwim> there is no recursion, because the timezone function only sets the variable
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| 12:18 | it does not call set_timezone again
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| 12:19 | <johnny> sure, that doesn't stop it from looking wrong tho :)
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| 12:21 | <sbalneav> Ahmuck: Are you just ssh'ing into the vm? Or are you using some kind of "console" app?
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| 12:23 | <knipwim> johnny: so, can i commit it?
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| 12:23 | <johnny> sure.. why not
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| 12:42 | <gothaggis> hey, I have LTSP5-Ubuntu and having some issues with sound
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| 12:43 | basically all of my thinclients output a very loud static sound as soon as the OS loads
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| 12:43 | pulseaudio is installed
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| 12:43 | any ideas?
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| 12:44 | <appiah> do the clients have a mic?
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| 12:45 | <gothaggis> no, just a jack for the mic...only thing plugged in are headphones...same thing happens on multiple clients
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| 12:46 | <johnny> gothaggis, you probably need to adjust the volume settings in lts.conf
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| 12:46 | i don't recall which ones are good.. it depends on what your controls are named for that card
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| 12:46 | <gothaggis> tried playing some youtube videos to see if sound was working at all...i can see the volume going up and down consistent with normal audio using puvcontrol but the static is so freaking loud its impossible to hear anything
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| 12:46 | <johnny> yes, you have to adjust the volume at a lower level
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| 12:47 | the pre pulseaudio volume
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| 12:47 | i guess you could call it
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| 12:47 | your base volume is too high for that card
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| 12:47 | Gadi, what's that thing you should set to fix this?
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| 12:47 | <gothaggis> i'll check that out..the thing is I can sometimes hear very very faint audio
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> [Default]
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| 12:48 | VOLUME=50
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| 12:48 | MIC_VOLUME=10
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| 12:48 | ^^^ in lts.conf
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| 12:48 | Try these, they worked for me
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| 12:55 | <gothaggis> that got rid of the static but the audio is so low i can barely hear it. i tried increasing it using the puavcontrol (or whatever its called) but no difference
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| 12:59 | <dro> gothaggis: once second there is another volume control that i had to use....looking now
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| 12:59 | <mgariepy> good afternoon all
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| 12:59 | <dro> gothaggis: i think it was speaker_volume=100 but let me double check
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| 12:59 | mgariepy: good afternoon
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| 13:00 | <alkisg> gothaggis: try keeping mic low, but increasing volume...
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| 13:02 | <gothaggis> the speaker_volume setting worked...thanks very much!
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| 13:02 | <dro> HEADPHONE_VOLUME=100
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| 13:03 | just a couple others i've had to use
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| 13:04 | gothaggis: glad to hear :P
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| 13:17 | <gothaggis> hmm, is there a good way to control volume on thin clients? I added the pauvcontrol from pulse but everytime i reboot the thin client, it goes back to 47% loud...and i can barely hear that
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| 13:18 | <dro> gothaggis: try HEADPHONE_VOLUME=100
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| 13:18 | <gothaggis> yeah i have that set, no difference
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| 13:18 | <Lns> gothaggis: yeah - there's a bunch of lts.conf options for volume
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| 13:19 | <dro> gothaggis: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man5/lts.conf.5.html#toptoc8
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| 13:19 | <gothaggis> ahhh ok that helps
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| 13:19 | <dro> gothaggis: choose sound and volume options on the right there
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| 13:24 | <gothaggis> ok..sorry for all these questions, heh...i set all those values to 100...and its better but still a bit quiet....i added a fluxbox menu option to load up the volume control for pulse....this seems to always be set at 50%...which is too quiet. is there some way to increase this for all users? i'm guessing this would be outside of lts.conf this value also seems to reset once i reboot the thin client
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> Can you upload your current lts.conf to pastebin?
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| 13:26 | <mgariepy> gothaggis, can you do : "" amixer -c0 scontents | grep 'Simple mixer control' "" on the thin client and tell me what is the channel that you want to put at 100 ?
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| 13:27 | <gothaggis> http://pastebin.com/m3fecf536
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| 13:27 | <mgariepy> each chnnel volume can be managed in the lts.conf.
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| 13:27 | <alkisg> gothaggis: you still have VOLUME=50
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| 13:27 | Try to increase that.
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| 13:28 | (08:59:39 μμ) alkisg: gothaggis: try keeping mic low, but increasing volume...
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| 13:28 | <gothaggis> yeah anything above 50 makes crazy static
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| 13:29 | <mgariepy> gothaggis, i've seen this before, it's usualy mic feedback.
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| 13:30 | usualy there is a channel that can be muted on the thin client to stop the static.
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| 13:30 | <gothaggis> i tried mic = 0 and volume = 70 but crazy static
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| 13:30 | same with mic being 1
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| 13:31 | <mgariepy> can you post the result of : # LANG=C amixer -c0 scontents
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| 13:31 | * alkisg wonders why that happens when the same clients are used as thin, and it doesn't happen with normal installations on the same hardware... | |
| 13:31 | <CAN-o-SPAM> lns: ping?
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| 13:31 | <Lns> CAN-o-SPAM: hey
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| 13:32 | <alkisg> Gadi, is it possible that the feedback is caused by changing those volumes (mic etc) too rapidly?
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| 13:32 | <mgariepy> alkisg, i think that's because when you use the client as in a real install alsa save the soundcard state ;)
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| 13:32 | <Ahmuck> sbalneav: virtualbox
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| 13:32 | <alkisg> mgariepy: but on the first boot, what state does it have?
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| 13:33 | E.g. it works fine with the live CD...
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| 13:33 | <mgariepy> hmm, maybe the sound isn't set to 100 on every channel on a live cd.
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| 13:33 | but it is on a thin client install./
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> We should do the same on LTSP, then
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| 13:34 | But why is there feedback even with 70% volume?
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| 13:34 | ...and not if you increase it later on?
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| 13:34 | <alkisg> I think it's a problem with the sound initialization... not the level itself
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| 13:35 | <mgariepy> client/initscripts/ltsp-init-common :: function configure_sound_volume()
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| 13:36 | but maybe the channels arent quite the same on a live cd or a real system.
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| 13:36 | <gothaggis> amixer -c0 contents -> http://pastebin.com/m3d45aff0
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| 13:37 | <Gadi> sorry, guys - was afk
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| 13:37 | gothaggis: seems you have 2 mic channels: MIC and FRONT_MIC
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| 13:37 | you may want to set MIC_VOLUME=0, FRONT_MIC_VOLUME=0
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| 13:37 | (if you aren't using the microphone
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| 13:39 | <alkisg> Gadi, but why does the same hardware (at least in my case) work fine with the live cd? Is the live cd using a lower initial volume level?
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| 13:39 | <Gadi> maybe
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| 13:39 | :)
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| 13:40 | * Gadi knows not how the liveCD sets volume levels | |
| 13:40 | <mgariepy> Gadi, i think 'Front Mic Boost' could be a problem too.
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| 13:40 | <Gadi> mgariepy: maybe - but should be off by default, no?
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| 13:41 | actually, seems to be on
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| 13:41 | <mgariepy> Gadi, but sure the Front Mic at 52% is probably the problem.
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| 13:41 | <Gadi> well, you can always only set the channels you want
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| 13:41 | like:
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| 13:41 | VOLUME=0
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| 13:41 | to turn off everything
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| 13:41 | and then:
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| 13:41 | HEADPHONE_VOLUME=100
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| 13:42 | <gothaggis> the front_mic value fixed the issue :)
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| 13:42 | thanks so much
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| 13:42 | <mgariepy> i don't think that ltsp-init-common make any special treatment to any channels ;)
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| 13:42 | <Gadi> mgariepy: it doesn't
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| 13:42 | the docs are wrong
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| 13:42 | it is ${channel_name}_VOLUME
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| 13:42 | for the variable
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| 13:43 | <mgariepy> it is :: channel_name=$(echo ${channel}|sed -e s/^\'// -e s/\'.*$// -e 's/ -//g' -e 's/ /_/g' -e 's/-/_/g' |tr [a-z] [A-Z])
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| 13:43 | <alkisg> Gadi, maybe we could also *not* call configure_sound_volume when SOUND=False, to provide a quick solution for others experiencing this problem?
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| 13:43 | <Gadi> where channel_name = the name of the volume channel to modify, substituting spaces with underscores and removing hyphens
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| 13:43 | alkisg: don't we already?
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| 13:43 | if not, we should in general
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| 13:44 | why waste seconds configuring a soundcard you dont use
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| 13:44 | :)
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| 13:44 | <alkisg> Gadi, no - that was the first thing I tried but I still got my netbook smelling before I turned it off :D
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| 13:44 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 14:42 | <bulletxt> hi, where does ltsp understand which kernel it must load? on karmic its loading default 2.6.31-14 kernel but I installed -18 one, how can I tell it to load that? thanks
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| 14:44 | <dro> bulletxt: you have to install that kernel in the chroot
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| 14:44 | bulletxt: you running ubuntu?
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| 14:44 | <bulletxt> dro: yes, Ive installed it in chroot
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| 14:45 | but it stills load the -14 kernel
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| 14:45 | <dro> bulletxt: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UpdatingChroot
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| 14:45 | <bulletxt> ok let me check
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| 14:45 | <dro> bulletxt: i believe you have to run ltsp-update-kernels
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| 14:46 | <bulletxt> oh ok yea
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| 14:46 | thanks im sure that will work
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| 14:47 | <dro> bulletxt: np
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| 14:50 | <bulletxt> dro: is there a way to make nautilus open as local app if a user clicks at top menu to open his home?
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| 14:51 | <dro> bulletxt: sorry I am not familiar with local apps
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| 14:51 | <bulletxt> oh ok sure
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| 14:51 | <dro> bulletxt: you running ubuntu?
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| 14:51 | <bulletxt> yea 9.10
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| 14:51 | <dro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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| 14:51 | check that out.....amazing documentation
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| 14:51 | <bulletxt> I know how to make local apps but Im not sure if is possible to make the upper menu icon open folders as local apps
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| 14:51 | ok sure
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| 14:52 | <johnny> did you try bulletxt ?
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| 14:52 | but.. i don't think it's a good idea
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| 14:52 | you should probably make a seperate desktop entry
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| 14:52 | otherwise users will never beable to browser their server folders
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| 14:52 | <bulletxt> yea, well its just a small issue nothing special
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| 15:10 | <grantk> Gadi: I wanted to ask you if you recalled talking to me yesterday about ssh keys? I think my problem is not key related, for testing purposes I set the StrictHostKeyChecking to no and tried to boot and still had the problem of the ldm just reloading.
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| 15:11 | I noticed that the session menu only shows default and failsafeXterm. If I set MY_SERVER_LIST to the one server that I get my ip from via dhcp I get KDE as an option.
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| 15:12 | <grantk> that leads me to believe that I have my keys sorted out properly, I also used the ltsp-generate-sshkeys --export option to get key files for each server, but that did not change things.
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| 15:12 | ahh, bummer, guess I should make sure Gadi is here first.
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| 15:29 | <bulletxt> what should I do if at boot it doesnt find the kernel
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| 15:30 | it cant find the vmlinuz anymore
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| 15:31 | <dro> bulletxt: do this
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| 15:31 | <bulletxt> ok
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| 15:31 | <dro> 1. sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 15:31 | reboot the ltsp server
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| 15:31 | try again
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| 15:31 | if still no bueno
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| 15:31 | sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 15:31 | and try again :P
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| 15:31 | <bulletxt> lol
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| 15:32 | the problem is
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| 15:32 | <dro> shouldn't have to do all that but seems to work for me
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| 15:32 | also did you make any custom entries in pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 15:32 | bulletxt: like IPAPPEND=3
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| 15:33 | bulletxt: of course if you don't want to try all that
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| 15:33 | <bulletxt> oh damn
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| 15:33 | <dro> bulletxt: make sure you ran the ltsp-update-kernels like it says too
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| 15:33 | <bulletxt> after i installed the new kernel it removed the ipappend
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| 15:33 | is this possible?
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| 15:33 | or maybe when I did the kernel update
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| 15:34 | <dro> bulletxt: i believe the ltsp-update-kernels command defaults pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 15:34 | <bulletxt> oh ok
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| 15:34 | <dro> bulletxt: just add it back and ltsp-update-image
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| 15:34 | <bulletxt> yea
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| 15:34 | <dro> bulletxt: is it IPAPPEND 3 OR IPAPPEND=3
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| 15:35 | <bulletxt> ipappend 3
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| 15:35 | <alkisg> grantk: I think StrictHostKeyChecking=no is not enough... I also use CheckHostIP=no and LogLevel silent...
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| 15:35 | <grantk> k, will try
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| 15:35 | thanks alkisg
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| 15:35 | <alkisg> np
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| 15:41 | <bulletxt> dro: yes I can confirm that doing the kernel update removes the ipappend, now I put it back and rebuild the image... hopefully it will boot now
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| 15:41 | <dro> bulletxt: yes it should, I believe there is a bug report open on it and sbalneav is working on a work-around
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| 15:45 | <grantk> alkisg: Why silent on the log level? I would tend to think that would be something I would want set rather high right now.
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| 15:46 | <alkisg> grantk: it's been a while since I looked at it - it might have had something to do with ssh_utils.c being confused with any error output (it expects a simple "password:" from ssh)...
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| 15:47 | <grantk> alkisg: ok, thanks
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| 15:47 | <johnny> alkisg, what i don't understand is why the expect didn't look for other info from ssh and try to do something valuable with it.. like print an error..
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| 15:47 | <alkisg> grantk: I think the first time ssh emits a warning "are you sure you want to continue connecting" etc, and the first login attempt wasn't succesful, but the next ones were.
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| 15:48 | <johnny> like if it sees a request to accept the key, it would print an error please have the administrator run ltsp-update-sshkeys or something..
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| 15:48 | <johnny> must be some valuable reason why it isn't done like that
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| 15:48 | <alkisg> johnny, sbalneav will rewrite the whole thing using sshlib 2, so there's no point in trying to fix it :)
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| 15:48 | It'll even handle password expiry then
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| 15:51 | <grantk> alkisg: No luck with those changes to the sshd.conf , still the same issue.
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| 15:52 | <alkisg> grantk: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/sshd_config? then, it shouldn't be an ssh keys issue.
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| 15:52 | With those settings I'm able to login to any server, no matter the IP
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| 15:53 | <grantk> oops, yeah
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| 15:54 | alkisg: That is kind of what I was thinking, with the session KDE not being available When I try and use the MY_SERVER_LIST option I was thinking it would not be key related.
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| 17:16 | <elias_a> shawnp0wers: Wasn't it you who contacted the Adobe people in the broken UTF-8 chars issue?
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| 17:17 | <shawnp0wers> Yes. :)
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| 17:17 | <elias_a> I have another war for you :)
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| 17:18 | <elias_a> They have broken v4l2-support in Flash.
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| 17:18 | They already had it working in some clumsy way.
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| 17:19 | Now it is all dead...
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| 17:19 | <shawnp0wers> sigh
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| 17:19 | is this a recent breakage?
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| 17:20 | <elias_a> So, linux users cannot use for example video conferencing sw such as Connect Pro or OpenMeetings as they are almost all based on Flash server.
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| 17:20 | No.
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| 17:20 | Wait a minute - I'll give you some leads..
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| 17:23 | http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-2138
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| 17:23 | shawnp0wers: Have you registered to Adobe bug system?
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| 17:23 | <shawnp0wers> sadly no
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| 17:24 | <elias_a> Umm... you really should...
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| 17:24 | this stuff is worth reading :)
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| 17:24 | <shawnp0wers> I'm saving a bookmark now, and will sign up soon, I promise
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| 17:25 | * shawnp0wers has pneumonia right now, and is close to delirious | |
| 17:25 | <elias_a> Much more funny than listening Sarah Palin speaking :P
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| 17:25 | shawnp0wers: get well, you!!!
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| 17:25 | :)
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| 17:26 | Got to get some sleep. It's 01.25 here and got to catch a train at 07.00
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| 17:26 | Good night, folks!
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| 18:37 | <bulletxt> if I have a deb file on my desktop, how can I install it inside ltsp ? thanks
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| 18:42 | <vagrantc> bulletxt: typically, all applications are installed on the server, so you would install it the same way you would install any application.
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| 18:42 | <bulletxt> no I want to install it as local app
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| 18:42 | <vagrantc> i.e. using apt/aptitude/synaptic
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| 18:42 | ah.
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| 18:42 | <bulletxt> but its a local deb file I have
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| 18:42 | I did this: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 18:42 | and then installed it with dpkg
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| 18:42 | now Ill check if it worked
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| 18:43 | <vagrantc> with some distros, you'll need to run ltsp-update-image
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| 18:43 | <bulletxt> yea im doing it now
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| 18:43 | <vagrantc> before the changes will take effect
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| 19:33 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 23:20 | <vagrantc> so, i've got an initramfs-tools script that allows you to use DHCP to determine weather to use NFS or NBD+aufs+squashfs+tmpfs (and in theory, plain NBD+$fs with a few bug fixes to nbd-client)
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