IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 4 July 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:03 | * vagrantc_ concurs with MrMoo's assesment of the situation | |
| 00:03 | <chupacabra> i never saw a switch like that
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| 00:04 | mostly self contained
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| 00:05 | <jvin248> Yes, PXE seems to work. Breakdown seems to happen at the second switch (client attached to switch1/port3 just booted up. a third Client on switch2/port4 just hung).
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| 00:05 | <chupacabra> prolly dhcp.conf
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| 00:05 | <jvin248> What I have are non-dedicated clients - so they need IP addresses from the modem to do Linux/windows on their own as well as other times LTSP. So some network thinking yet...
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| 00:06 | <vagrantc_> put two network cards in your LTSP server, and configure your server to do NAT
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| 00:06 | <chupacabra> not a good idea
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| 00:07 | <vagrantc_> or, disable your modem's DHCP server, and just have your LTSP server handle DHCP.
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| 00:07 | <chupacabra> set up dhcp to give them the same addy everytime
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| 00:07 | exactly vag
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| 00:08 | <jvin248> The LTSP server is not on all the time (so regular users will have fits with no Internet access)... the server has a static IP address currently.
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| 00:09 | <vagrantc_> or, configure your modem to hand out the appropriate information for LTSP ... but not all routers support arbitrary DHCP options, or the options needed for LTSP
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| 00:10 | or ...
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| 00:10 | <jvin248> what information for LTSP should I look to hand out?
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| 00:10 | so I can check the modem?
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| 00:10 | <vagrantc_> root-path and next-server
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| 00:11 | root-path a.k.a. dhcp option 17
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| 00:11 | don't know the number for next-server
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| 00:11 | <jvin248> I don't think I saw those as options, could there be another name?... ok not sure I saw "option 17" in the modem either.
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| 00:12 | <vagrantc_> most likely, there's no way to do it
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| 00:12 | but i have seen some that allow you to specify arbitrary options based on the numbers
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| 00:13 | but they are rare
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| 00:13 | <chupacabra> ltsp is easy to debug
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| 00:14 | unless it is wack
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| 00:15 | <vagrantc_> jvin248: which linux distro is this ?
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| 00:16 | <jvin248> kubuntu 6.10
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| 00:17 | <vagrantc_> if your PXE clients only respect DHCP servers that hand out the filename option ... you can configure pxelinux.cfg/default to tell it which server to use.
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| 00:17 | <jvin248> modem doesn't list any options to change regarding root-path, next-server, or option 17. I had tried the "authoritative" option in LTSP dhcp server but that didn't seem to work.
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| 00:17 | <vagrantc_> really, you need a real DHCP server.
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| 00:18 | and disable the modem's DHCP server.
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| 00:18 | anything short of that, unless you really know what you're doing, is going to be headache.
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| 00:22 | <jvin248> Where's the pxelinux.cfg file? I searched the /opt/ and /etc/ folders (thought it would be in ltsp there).
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| 00:23 | <MrMoo> tftpboot / lts / * /
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| 00:31 | <jvin248> How about this.. I make the LTSP server DHCP "authoritative" and use "option root-path "IP:/opt/ltsp/i386"" where IP is the LTSP server static IP? That way when the machine is off the modem can hand out IPs?
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| 00:31 | Still didn't find the pxelinux.cfg (though my dhcp config file on ltsp server shows path should be pxelinux.0 but I don't see the file...
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| 00:33 | clip from ltsp dhcpd.conf ... if pxeclient then ... filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 00:37 | (googling) found "http://www.naos.co.nz/papers/diskless/examples/pxelinux-config.txt" if I save a modified version of that as pxelinux.0 can that direct clients?
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| 00:38 | <cyberorg> jvin248: you need to save it as /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 00:44 | <jvin248> ok. I found /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default! it has one line: "DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash" ... so add with correct IP and maybe verify directories "APPEND root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.254.10:/var/wsroot"?
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| 00:45 | (add line copied from the above link)
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| 00:54 | Well, you've given me some things to think about and experiment with. too bad I'm tipping over sleepy and have to go. I'll leave the log on if you have some other ideas I should try. Thanks!
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| 05:13 | <gvy> Avatara, hi
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| 06:53 | <filorp> hi
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| 06:53 | I need few explanation about LTSP
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| 06:54 | I just installed on monday for the first time a LTSP server-basic on Debian
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| 06:55 | But I cannot find a guide for the LTSP n°5?
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| 06:56 | There are available only for 4.2 version!
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| 06:56 | <ogra> !debian
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| 06:56 | <ltspbot> ogra: "debian" is is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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| 06:56 | <ogra> since most developent is done in ubuntu that might help too:
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| 06:56 | !ubuntu
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| 06:56 | <ltspbot> ogra: "ubuntu" is a Debian based GNU/Linux distrubution that includes a Ubuntu specific version of LTSP. It can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org. to install ltsp on ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 06:57 | <filorp> yes that kind it's "too quick"
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| 06:57 | <ogra> apart from that a fulltext search for ltsp5 should retun some docs as well on wiki.ltsp.org
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| 06:57 | look in the UbuntuLTSP folder, there is a bunch of docs
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| 06:58 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuFAQ might also have some hints
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| 07:01 | <filorp> ok I'm searching....
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| 07:01 | <ogra> which debian is that ?
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| 07:01 | etch or sid ?
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| 07:01 | note that etch's ltsp is pretty old (older than ubuntu edgy)
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| 07:02 | there are backports somewhere ... (should be noted on the debian page)
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| 07:02 | <filorp> etch
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| 07:07 | I don't figured how logically ltsp works... for example, my client download a kernel from my tftp server, that kernek is named "2.6.18-4-486", so I did a research in my server's folders with "find"...but
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| 07:07 | nothing this file doesn't exist!!
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| 07:08 | where ltsp take the kernel for the clients and how to modify it?
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| 07:08 | it's a mistery for me
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| 07:09 | <ogra> it exists in /opt/ltsp/i386/boot and in /var/lib/tftpboot/i386 ;)
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| 07:14 | <filorp> ooo yes thank you , it's named with a prefix nbi...
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| 07:14 | <ogra> no
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| 07:14 | thats the etherboot image
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| 07:14 | the PXE bootimage is just called vmlinuz
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| 07:15 | <filorp> aaaah ok , maybe my client download the etherboot image?
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| 07:16 | <ogra> only if you use etherboot :)
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| 07:16 | at least in ubuntu with the autogenerated dhcp config it defaults to automatically select etherboot or PXE depending on the client
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| 07:17 | i know debian changed stuff of that autosetup
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| 07:17 | <filorp> I use a floppy image from ROM-O-MATIC ..it is pxe or etherboot
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| 07:17 | ?
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| 07:17 | <ogra> depends what you selected when you generated it
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| 07:18 | the rom-o-matic images can emulate PXE via etherboot ...
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| 07:18 | (i think thats the defaultnowadays, but i'm not sure)
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| 07:19 | <filorp> I selected the default one "floppy ROM bootable image"
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| 07:19 | I can try anotherone
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| 07:21 | <filorp> there is also "PXE bootstrap loader format rom image"
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| 07:21 | I try this one
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| 07:21 | <ogra> well, you should see it saying something about starting PXE during bot somewhere
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| 07:21 | *boot
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| 07:47 | <cdealer> Hi! ... I set LOCALDEV = TRUE , installed and loaded the fuse module, installed the ltspfs, added the user to the fuse group ... what more I need to make my local dev available to the clients?
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| 07:53 | O.o
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| 07:58 | when the ltsp client boots it retrieve the groups and passwd information from /etc or from /opt/ltsp/i386/etc?
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| 08:01 | <ogra> cdealer, there are no users in the client environment ... so the servers file counts indeed
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| 08:02 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: hey ... the last time I was asking the samequestion about localdev, and worked... now after a reinstall I cant make it work again...
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| 08:03 | <ogra> was that uuntu or debian ?
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| 08:03 | *ubuntu
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| 08:03 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: ubuntu 7.04
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| 08:03 | <ogra> ah, right
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| 08:05 | you have done everything from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices i guess
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| 08:06 | (actually that should be there already if you used the ltsp-server-standalone package)
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| 08:07 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: its impressive how I neve found these links you sent... lol ... but I done the ltsp-server-standalone, openssh, dhcp3, ltspfs
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| 08:10 | <ogra> dhcp3-server and ltspfs are dependecies of ltsp-server-standalone ... they get installed automatically
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| 08:10 | did you fiddle with the lts.conf any further `
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| 08:10 | ?
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| 08:11 | (the default lts.conf in ubuntu has LOCALDEV=True already)
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| 08:12 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: yeah... its all like is supposed to be... those things at the link you paste I just made and now the user are getting access to the server drivers... not his own
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| 08:12 | <ogra> paste you lts.conf to the pastebot :)
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| 08:12 | <cdealer> ok
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| 08:18 | [ogra]:: http://pastebin.com/941946
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| 08:18 | <ogra> phew ... that takes ages to load
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| 08:19 | !pastebot
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| 08:19 | <ltspbot> ogra: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 08:19 | <ogra> use that one next time ;)
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| 08:19 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: pastebot was giving me an error... sorry
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| 08:19 | <ogra> still not loaded
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| 08:20 | <ltsppbot> "cdealer" pasted "lts.conf" (14 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/205
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| 08:20 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: =)
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| 08:20 | <ogra> looks good
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| 08:21 | can you add SCREEN_07=ldm and SCREEN_02=shell to the default section and boot a client ?
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| 08:21 | thn switch wih ctrl-alt-f2 to console after booting
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| 08:23 | ... then plug in your USB stick (or whatever device you test there) and check with the dmesg command if its recognized by the clients kernel
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| 08:24 | there should be messages about sda/sdb or sdc in the output ...
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| 08:24 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: ok ... lets see...
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| 08:27 | [ogra]:: didnt boot yet... but when I take off or plug again the device it outputs a message on the booting screen
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| 08:27 | <ogra> let it finish booting and plug it in then
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| 08:31 | <cdealer> ogra, ok, now when I plug the usb device it recognize and sets it to the sda1, buuut the sda1 that is mount on the client is the server disk (it start to appear after changing the user account proprerties like said on the link you first give)
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| 08:32 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: ok, now when I plug the usb device it recognize and sets it to the sda1, buuut the sda1 that is mount on the client is the server disk (it start to appear after changing the user account proprerties like said on the link you first give)
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| 08:33 | <ogra> grep sda1 /etc/fstab
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| 08:33 | des that print any output if run while the device is plugged in ?
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| 08:33 | (on the client)
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| 08:34 | (on the server side a usb device like that would be called usbdisk-sda1)
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| 08:35 | <cdealer> yeah
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| 08:35 | <ogra> yeah ?
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| 08:35 | you mean you got it in fstab on the client ?
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| 08:35 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: its in /dev/sda1 /var/run/drive/usbdisk-sda1
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| 08:35 | <ogra> good, so the client side works
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| 08:36 | check with: ps ax|grep ltspfsd
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| 08:36 | if the ltspfs daemon runs on the client
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| 08:36 | you should get one master process and one for every attached device in the processlist ... (i.e. two in your case)
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| 08:37 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: no... only one ltspfsd -a process and the grep process itself
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| 08:37 | <ogra> ok at least its there ...
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| 08:38 | unplug the device and log in in X ....
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| 08:38 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: the ltspfsd must be installed direct on the server or in the chroot enviroment ?
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| 08:38 | <ogra> only in the chroot
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| 08:38 | never ever install it on the server
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| 08:38 | that breaks
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| 08:38 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: so there is the problem
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| 08:38 | <ogra> well, it isnt installable
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| 08:39 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: I will do it now on the chroot
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| 08:39 | <ogra> ogra@laptop:~$ apt-cache show ltspfsd|grep Depends
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| 08:39 | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-5), libx11-6, libxau6, python (>= 2.4), ltsp-client
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| 08:39 | no !
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| 08:39 | <cdealer> why?
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| 08:39 | <ogra> its there already if you have seen it with ps ax
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| 08:39 | you cant install it on the server ...
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| 08:39 | it needs ltsp-client installed which is not installable on normal systems
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| 08:40 | <cdealer> but I tryied on the server and receive some erros like saying it wont be installed because depends of the ltsp-client... but I installed the ltspfs
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| 08:40 | <ogra> right
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| 08:40 | ltspfs is the stuff you need on the server side
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| 08:40 | <cdealer> Ah .. ok ...
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| 08:40 | <ogra> probably do a: sudo apt-get remove --purge ltspfsd
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| 08:40 | to make sure there is no cruft left from your attempt
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| 08:41 | (on the server)
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| 08:41 | <cdealer> its freeing 130kb
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| 08:42 | <ogra> good
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| 08:42 | <cdealer> must I try again with the usb stick ?
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| 08:42 | <ogra> yes
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| 08:42 | see what happens
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| 08:42 | <cdealer> I will reboot the thin client
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| 08:42 | <ogra> i dont think thats needed
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| 08:43 | your client side seemed proper
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| 08:43 | <cdealer> too late... hehe ...one sec it will be back
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| 08:44 | <ogra> rather reboot the server to make sure udev was restarted properly and all the ltsp client rules are gone
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| 08:44 | <cdealer> ok
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| 08:47 | [ogra]:: !! worked now =D
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| 08:47 | <ogra> :)
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| 08:47 | good
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| 08:48 | <cdealer> the more funny about this is that before I tryed to install the ltspfsd it wasnt working .... but must be the step in the guide you passed about allowing the user to mount fuse devices
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| 08:48 | thank dude... you are the ltsp man hehe
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| 08:50 | <ogra> well, i wrote a lot of it ;)
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| 09:04 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: let me hook you in another question (i think this is a bit more dificult)... some clients will need to use skype (or any voip program that works on ltsp) after searching a litle I found a guide about using pulseaudio to make this available, but I noticed that in the installation it already install pulse-esd-compat but still get an audio error when trying to use skype (xmms, rhythmbox, etc, works good)
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| 09:05 | <ogra> talk to MrMoo about that, he wrote the guide
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| 09:05 | he is in some US timezone i think
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| 09:05 | so might come around soon
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| 09:17 | <Guaraldo> hi, all...
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| 09:23 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: ok... thanks =)
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| 09:43 | <jammcq> yo
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| 09:48 | <ogra> jammcq, i'm nearly done with a completely new X configurator :)
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| 09:49 | takes about 2secs to generate the file now ...
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| 09:49 | <jammcq> wow
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| 09:50 | anybody seen scotty ?
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| 09:50 | <ogra> and it finally supports X_MODE ;)
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| 09:50 | poking around with videoram atm
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| 09:50 | <jammcq> whoa !!!!
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| 09:50 | <ogra> he wasnt around yet
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| 09:51 | <ogra> well, i just use what Xorg -configure gives me and sed through it
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| 09:51 | <jammcq> nice
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| 09:51 | <ogra> i think i'll just replace the Xorg binary with it if CONFIGURE_X is true
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| 09:52 | and have a call for the real binary in the end ...
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| 09:52 | (of the script)
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| 09:52 | so we ca ame sure it works on all setups ...
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| 09:52 | *can make
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| 09:52 | <jammcq> so the default will be auto-configure ?
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| 09:52 | <ogra> no
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| 09:52 | unless it proves itself to be better
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| 09:52 | <jammcq> oh
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| 09:53 | <ogra> no config is still the fastest :)
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| 09:53 | <jammcq> that's what I meant
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| 09:53 | the default will be no config file at all
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| 09:53 | ?
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| 09:53 | <ogra> Xorg -configure needs to start the server once ... so we will have a flashing screen
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| 09:53 | not sure yet, i have to see how it wrks out ..
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| 09:54 | <jammcq> ah
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| 09:54 | <ogra> i'd prefer to not use any config
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| 09:54 | but keyboard and resolution are a prob then
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| 09:56 | <ogra> there are also some cards that seem to not free the framebuffer without config file ... (i.e. the sis driver) so it doesnt restart properly ...
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| 09:57 | as long as that isnt fixed i assume we'll need to default to have a config ... :/
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| 09:57 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: where do I change the background image of the client login screen ??
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| 09:57 | <McDutchie> hi all, i am trying to get two LTSP 4.2 terminals to work with two new AG Neovo K-A19 widescreen TFT monitors, and I can't for the life of me get the proper resolution of 1440x900 to work... when I specify the mode as simply "1440x900", /tmp/mnt/xorg.log says "no mode by that name" and when I give it a full modeline calculated with `amlc', it says "not using mode 1440x900 because there is no clock available". help! anyone any ideas?
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| 09:58 | <jammcq> McDutchie: you prolly also need to provide X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH
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| 09:59 | <McDutchie> jammcq: yes, I have done that, according to the manual that is 31.47 - 80.0 and 50.0 - 75.0 respectively
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| 09:59 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 09:59 | <ogra> cdealer, there is no easy way atm ... look where /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/alternatives/ldm-theme points to (note that will appear broken outside the chroot) and to replace bg.png in there
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| 09:59 | <McDutchie> it still won't take at all. :(
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| 09:59 | <jammcq> set SCREEN_01 = shell
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| 09:59 | then at the shell prompt, run: startx
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| 09:59 | then go look in /tmp for the Xorg log file
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| 09:59 | <McDutchie> i have SCREEN_03 = shell already so I can access the log file right now
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| 10:00 | <jammcq> ok
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| 10:00 | <ogra> McDutchie, you dont happen t use an intel graphics card with that ?
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| 10:00 | <jammcq> that should tell you why it's not liking things
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| 10:00 | <McDutchie> ogra: no, it's a VIA VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]
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| 10:00 | <jammcq> oh
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| 10:01 | <ogra> chack if its using the via driver
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| 10:01 | *check
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| 10:01 | <jammcq> via's can be problematic
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| 10:01 | <McDutchie> jammcq: yes, it does, it says "no mode by that name" or if I give a modeline, "no clock available for that mode"\
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| 10:01 | <ogra> vesa might not go above 1024x768
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| 10:01 | <McDutchie> ogra: oh, it decided to give me 1600x1200 (too high for that monitor)... so i doubt that's it :)
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| 10:01 | <ogra> ah
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| 10:02 | <McDutchie> ogra: yes, it's using the via driver (just checked)
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| 10:02 | <jammcq> how did you come up with the modeline ?
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| 10:03 | <McDutchie> jammcq: calculated with amlc ("another modeline calculator"), see http://amlc.berlios.de
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| 10:03 | jammcq: i don't know how else to make them, it's greek to me :/
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| 10:03 | <jammcq> can you boot a live cd, like ubuntu or knoppix ?
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| 10:03 | <McDutchie> jammcq: yes, can boot knoppix
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| 10:03 | <jammcq> well, see how that configures it
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| 10:04 | <McDutchie> jammcq: i don't think that detects it either but i'll try and make sure.
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| 10:04 | <jammcq> well, if you can't get it working with knoppix or ubuntu, it's gonna be really hard to get it working with ltsp
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| 10:05 | <ogra> if you get it working with an ubuntu liveCD its sure that ltsp5 would work at least :)
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| 10:05 | <McDutchie> jammcq: darn :(
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| 10:05 | ogra: unfortunately ltsp5 won't work on our slackware server
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| 10:05 | <ogra> McDutchie, why ?
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| 10:05 | there are tarballs
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| 10:06 | <McDutchie> ogra: oh, i thought ltsp5 needed to be integrated in the distro
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| 10:06 | <ogra> it does
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| 10:06 | but we made tarballs of the client chroots ...
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| 10:06 | you can set up the server side manually and just use these for your nfsroot
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| 10:06 | <ogra> the client env will then be ubuntu ...
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| 10:07 | <jammcq> before you worry aabout that, get it working with a live cd
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| 10:07 | <ogra> (or debian if you choose that(
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| 10:07 | yeah
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| 10:07 | <filorp> hi all
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| 10:07 | <jammcq> and IF you can get it working with a ubuntu live cd, you can steal the modeline and use it in LTSP-4.2 if you want, OR, you can install the ltsp-5 tarball on slackware
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| 10:07 | <ogra> in ubuntu ltsp5 uses the exactly same autodetection for X the liveCD uses
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| 10:07 | <jammcq> hey filorp
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| 10:07 | <ogra> so if that works ltsp5 will d as well
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| 10:08 | s/d/do
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| 10:08 | <filorp> I have kernel panic..
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| 10:08 | <McDutchie> jammcq: does it need to be a ubuntu live cd or is knoppix (5.0.1) good enough?
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| 10:08 | <filorp> I read few post on google about my error..
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| 10:08 | <jammcq> McDutchie: whichever one works for you. if knoppix doesn't work, try ubuntu
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| 10:08 | <McDutchie> jammcq: ok. i may have some downloading to do, then.
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| 10:08 | <jammcq> filorp: you need to tell us more about your panic message
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| 10:09 | <filorp> ok
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| 10:09 | <McDutchie> jammcq: how do i 'steal the modeline'?
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| 10:09 | <jammcq> look at the generated Xorg.conf file and find the modeline
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| 10:09 | copy it into your lts.conf file
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| 10:09 | <McDutchie> jammcq: what if it's just a resolution without a modeline?
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| 10:09 | <jammcq> or take the entire xorg.conf file and use that
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| 10:10 | McDutchie: there's likely a complete modeline in that file
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| 10:10 | <filorp> look my output on boot:
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| 10:10 | after many lines:
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| 10:10 | <McDutchie> jammcq: ok. going to try that. i'll be back in a bit. thanks so far
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| 10:10 | <filorp> "Begin:mounting root file system
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| 10:11 | Begin: Running /scripts/nfs-top. Done.
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| 10:11 | <ogra> filorp, what distro ?
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| 10:11 | <filorp> ipconfig: etho: SIOCGIFINDEX
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| 10:12 | A DEBIAN BASED distro
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| 10:12 | <ogra> filorp, which one exactly ?
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| 10:13 | that looks very much like your network card isnt suported by the kernel tats used
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| 10:13 | <filorp> Dreamlinux , using debian repository
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| 10:13 | no such device
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| 10:13 | <ogra> whic repo does it use ? sid(unstable) or etch (stable) ?
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| 10:13 | <filorp> ipconfig: no devices to configure
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| 10:13 | <ogra> and which kernel
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| 10:14 | <filorp> init: : 152: can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
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| 10:14 | <ogra> yeah, you are missing a driver for your network card
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| 10:14 | <filorp> kernel panic..... etc. etc
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| 10:14 | <ogra> what kernel does that thing use ?
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| 10:14 | ls -l /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz
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| 10:14 | <McDutchie> jammcq: well, i'm in ubuntu now, it just gives me the standard 1280x1024, so that's pretty useless... there are modelines in xorg.conf though, as you said.
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| 10:15 | <McDutchie> jammcq: correction! i'm in knoppix, not ubuntu
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| 10:15 | jammcq: ubuntu is what i guess i should try next, so it was on my mind :)
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| 10:15 | <filorp> 2.6.18.1-kanotix-1 - on the server
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| 10:15 | <jammcq> McDutchie: yeah, but if you aren't getting your desired resolution, those modelines don't do you much good
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| 10:15 | <McDutchie> jammcq: exactly
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| 10:15 | <ogra> filorp, do you know what kind of NIC is in the client ?
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| 10:15 | <jammcq> McDutchie: i'm guessing your monitor is lying about its DDC output
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| 10:16 | <McDutchie> jammcq: how would i override that?
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| 10:16 | <ogra> jammcq, or ddcprobe is to old ;)
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| 10:16 | <filorp> off course is 3com - 3c509b
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| 10:16 | isa
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| 10:16 | <ogra> ouch
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| 10:16 | isa is very tricky
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| 10:16 | <jammcq> McDutchie: you can override it with your own modeline. problem is, you don't know exactly what values to use
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| 10:16 | McDutchie: try ubuntu, see if that works any better
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| 10:16 | <ogra> filorp, do you have a PCI card you could put in there ?
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| 10:17 | filorp, ISA cards will cause you *lots* of work to get going properly
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| 10:17 | <McDutchie> jammcq: right. will do. that'll take a long time to download at 80k/sec though, so ttyl (and thanks for your help and patience so far!)
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| 10:17 | <jammcq> ogra: does ltsp-5 have any support for isa network cards?
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| 10:17 | <filorp> I'm new to ltsp, to recompile the ltsp kernel I have to chroot?
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| 10:17 | <jammcq> McDutchie: good luck
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| 10:17 | <ogra> jammcq, well, you could poke it into the chroot indeed
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| 10:17 | <jammcq> ogra: yeah, but any support via dhcpd or pxe settings?
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| 10:17 | <ogra> jammcq, beyond that you could use the old style dhcp options ...
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| 10:18 | <jammcq> that still works?
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| 10:18 | <filorp> mmmm...
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| 10:18 | <jammcq> NIC=3c509 ?
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| 10:18 | <ogra> sure why shouldnt it ?
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| 10:18 | <jammcq> because your initramfs is so different from mine
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| 10:18 | <ogra> at least i'D expect it to
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| 10:18 | but still ISA will cause endless pain ...
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| 10:18 | <jammcq> my initramfs looks for NIC and uses that, instead of auto detecting the nic
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| 10:18 | <ogra> if there is any way to avoid it i'D do that
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| 10:19 | hmm
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| 10:19 | * jammcq hasn't even seen an ISA nic in a couple of years | |
| 10:20 | <ogra> hmm
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| 10:20 | <filorp> I have a lot of this kind of isa card :)
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| 10:20 | <ogra> grep -R NIC /usr/share/initramfs-tools/* doesnt reveal anything useful :/
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| 10:21 | <filorp> I try one moment
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| 10:21 | <ogra> but you could put it into /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and regenrate the initramfs
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| 10:21 | indeed that works only for one client :/
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| 10:22 | or one kind of setup rather ...
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| 10:22 | <filorp> no output
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| 10:22 | <ogra> filorp, ??
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| 10:22 | <filorp> yes
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| 10:22 | * ogra wonders what filorp is talking about | |
| 10:23 | <filorp> I have to add this module in some way
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| 10:24 | <ogra> well see above, you could add the module line to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules with all options for IRQ and PORT ... regeerate the initramfs for the clients and then you need to make sure the card setup is the same on *all* clients
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| 10:24 | its a lot of work
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| 10:24 | <filorp> this apply to all client?
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| 10:25 | <ogra> and no guarantee that works ...
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| 10:25 | yes, if you add it to the module file thats used in initramfs it applies to all clients and will break on all that have a different setup with the same card
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| 10:25 | <filorp> can I use another kernel recompiled?
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| 10:25 | <ogra> that wont help much ...
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| 10:26 | you need to set the irq and port settings statically in any case ... if one client doesnt match that it will break
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| 10:26 | so it wont matter if you compile your own kernel or use the module way i described above ... the outcome is the same
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| 10:27 | the initramfs way is the easier and fater one
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| 10:27 | *faster
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| 10:27 | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 vi /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
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| 10:27 | add the module line with all the options
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| 10:27 | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 update-initramfs -u
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| 10:28 | <filorp> how to regenerate the initramfs
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| 10:28 | ?
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| 10:28 | <ogra> ltsp-update-kernels
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| 10:28 | thats all you need
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| 10:28 | three commands and one file to edit :)
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| 10:29 | <filorp> well I'm going to try it!
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| 10:30 | <ltsppbot> "ogra" pasted "new X config script" (83 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/206
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| 10:30 | <ogra> vagrantc, ^^^^
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| 10:41 | <vporo> how old is the ltsp?
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| 10:41 | <vagrantc> 1999, i think.
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| 10:42 | <vporo> ok, thanks
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| 10:43 | <vagrantc> ogra: script looks nice :)
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| 10:43 | <ogra> thanks :)
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| 10:45 | vagrantc, takes about 2secs to generate the file with it :)
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| 10:45 | opposed to 10-20sec with debconf :)
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| 10:57 | <Shane-S> I have some general questions, so might not be in the scope of LTSP, but they came up because of its usage. Just random questions/issues I want to ask about if that is ok
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| 10:59 | <Shane-S> I am sure wireless booting is possible if the system recognizes the network, so it presents an issue of security, anyone know if modern devices can see WLAN networks and ask for security credentials. I guess it can be open, and when the OS is loaded your authenticate then.
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| 11:00 | <ogra> Shane-S, that needs a good bunch or initramfs hacking
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| 11:00 | s/or/of/
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| 11:01 | <Shane-S> Next one I had, is lets say you have a max node load of 30 TC per server, would your implement a network re-routing, or perhaps load balancing between the servers?
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| 11:01 | <ogra> initramfs needs all the wireless tools ...
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| 11:01 | it needs to respect a kernel commandline option that hands over essid and key for the WLAN
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| 11:01 | then it could work
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| 11:01 | <Shane-S> ahh ok thanks, wasn't sure, but would be damn cool to tell people, yep come out on the grassy knoll and load Fedora or Ubuntu with out software :D
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| 11:02 | <ogra> oh, and indeed you will need kernel and initramfs locally somewhere, there is no such thing like PXE or etherboot for WLAN
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| 11:02 | so it will only function if you boot from USB stick or CD
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| 11:03 | (current kernels wont fit on floppies)
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| 11:03 | <Shane-S> hmmm ok, that sounds resonable, as allowing that sort of thing unsecured wirelessly would present a massive security risk, so a USB key boot option isnt bad
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| 11:04 | didnt think of that
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| 11:04 | good project for me to work on then if the LAN base takes off
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| 11:04 | <ogra> if i have soe time left this release cycle (which is very unlikely), i will work on it
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| 11:04 | <Shane-S> I could push for a notebook thin client purchase or donation and try and get that working
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| 11:05 | <ogra> its on my TODO since quite some time but has a pretty low prio :)
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| 11:05 | <Shane-S> no major rush on my part, the concept popped in my head are 3:00 AM this morning
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| 11:06 | was like wow how awsome it would be to walk up to work and you system netboot wirelessly the OS the business/school/etc. wanted you to have
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| 11:06 | but heck, a USB is that can do that is cool
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| 11:06 | <ogra> if you use ubuntu and have slight scripting skills, look at the scripts and nooks under /usr/share/initramfs-tools/
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| 11:07 | <Shane-S> hey visitor, here is your hall pass, security card, ohh yeah, we don't know what is on your system, so here OS USB key
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| 11:07 | <ogra> it shouldnt be to hard to come up with a wlan bootscript if you roughly know what you do
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| 11:07 | <Shane-S> im am a newbie too it, K12LTSP introduced it me
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| 11:08 | <Shane-S> but that does exactly what I invisioned, NO os, the server loads it all
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| 11:08 | the closest thing I could find Windows wise was embeddedXP
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| 11:08 | <ogra> i think there are way to netboot win ....
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| 11:08 | <Shane-S> and now with Dell shipping Ubuntu, I think I have even more backing to start introducing Linux
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| 11:08 | <ogra> *ways
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| 11:09 | commercial ones likely ...
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| 11:09 | <Shane-S> I am sure there are, but in my searching nothing was clear or simple...or free
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| 11:09 | <ogra> yeah, free might be the prob :)
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| 11:09 | <Shane-S> Citrix I know can do it, and all th Terminal Server stuff I loaded you need the RDP client
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| 11:10 | and I have old system that can't even run anything above 98
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| 11:10 | even Ubuntu is a stretch, so gettign 128MB ram is easy enough, and making a TC works
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| 11:11 | ohh anyone tried LTSP in VMWare, or Virtual Box?
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| 11:11 | <ogra> thats how i develop if i travel :)
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| 11:11 | (VirtualBox)
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| 11:11 | <Shane-S> ok, but what I mean is Server (VMed) pushing to clients
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| 11:11 | <ogra> we also ship a quemu bootscript in ltsp5
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| 11:11 | *qemu
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| 11:12 | ah, well, thas possible as well, i personally only use it as test/dev client on my latop
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| 11:12 | <Shane-S> what is that? sorry totally new to this booting and virtualization
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| 11:13 | <ogra> qemu is a free virtual machine
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| 11:13 | <Shane-S> I only ask, because I am not sure how much server I can afford to start, and VMware gives me the flexibility to instantly scales other servers down
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| 11:14 | <ogra> we run a vmware based LTSP server in the ubuntu support center all workplaces are thin clients ... so it seems to work (i havet seen that setup personally yet)
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| 11:15 | <filorp> well done ogra! I added the module for 3c509 card as you told me but without options and no more kernel panic. thank you but now ....
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| 11:15 | <ogra> cool !
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| 11:15 | <filorp> I have another error
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| 11:15 | <ogra> tell us :)
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| 11:16 | <Shane-S> ahh ok...hmm that Qemu, could LTSP boot that and then it load a virtual drive/os off the LTSP server to load say...Windows?
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| 11:16 | <filorp> there is a kind of loop cicle
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| 11:16 | ipconfig: eth0 complete
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| 11:16 | begin running /scripts/nfs-premount..
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| 11:16 | done.
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| 11:17 | <ogra> then you should see a bunch of IP data ...
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| 11:17 | and then it should moount its nfs root
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| 11:17 | *mount
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| 11:17 | <filorp> begin: retrying nfs mount..
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| 11:17 | yes it took the ip settings well.
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| 11:17 | then
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| 11:18 | restart the same message again and again and again
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| 11:18 | <ogra> Shane-S, qemu is a lot slower than vmware ... the script we ship is only to run a virtual client
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| 11:18 | <filorp> ipconfig: eth0 ...etc etc
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| 11:18 | <ogra> no error message ?
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| 11:18 | <filorp> no is a loop
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| 11:19 | <ogra> there should be an nfs error or something
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| 11:19 | <filorp> never stop
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| 11:19 | <ogra> well the error that causes the loop should show up there anywhere
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| 11:19 | <filorp> after retrying nfs mount ...
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| 11:19 | <ogra> its likely nfs related ...
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| 11:19 | in the IP data there should be a line for rootserver
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| 11:19 | does the IP match your server ?
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| 11:20 | <Shane-S> orga: Im confused then...a ThinC is essentially just sent a kernal and load it up so it can communicate....what does the purpose of virtual client server?
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| 11:20 | <filorp> suddenly print again the ip settings.. and same messages related to nfs
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| 11:20 | <Shane-S> s/server/serve/
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| 11:20 | <filorp> all the ip matches my network
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| 11:20 | <ogra> filorp, what are the values for rootserver and rootpath ?
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| 11:21 | they should appear there
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| 11:21 | <filorp> yes they appear
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| 11:21 | one moment
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| 11:22 | <ogra> Shane-S, you can run different server in different vm's on one machine and have a secure environment thats only containing whats needed for one purpose
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| 11:23 | indeed the extra VM eats ressources
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| 11:23 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: i have changed the background.png file that are inside the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/alternatives/ldm-theme for another file that i just made... someelse to do ? No change to the login background yet
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| 11:23 | <ogra> cdealer, bg.png ;) not background.png
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| 11:23 | oh, no, wait
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| 11:23 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: ok... but inside was a background.png...
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| 11:24 | <ogra> i only have gutsy here ... thats changed a lot
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| 11:24 | <cdealer> Hmmm vagrantc dont know anything about it ?
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| 11:25 | lets see... there are a README file inside
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| 11:25 | <ogra> cdealer, vagrant doesnt touch ugly gui code :)
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| 11:25 | <filorp> rootpath was: 192.168.13.30:/opt/ltsp/i386
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| 11:25 | <Shane-S> orgra: I will let it go...not wrapping my brain around the need of the "virtual client" as each virtual server could still run LTSP, unless for saving those resouce you mean you use the Virtual Client boot so you have one LTSP server and that booter directs them to the proper Virtual Machine on the Virtualized server
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| 11:25 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: hehehe ok
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| 11:25 | <ogra> filorp, try to change that to /opt/ltsp/i386 in your dhcpd.conf
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| 11:26 | there were older versions of initramfs with a bug that broke if you have ip and colon in the rootpath, seems your distro uses such a version
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| 11:27 | it was fixed some time ago in debian sid ... and today in ubuntu
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| 11:27 | vagrantc, do you remember the version number in debian ?
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| 11:28 | <filorp> I think I need to specify that ip, because my dhcp server is another linux pc in my network
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| 11:29 | <ogra> do you use PXE or etherboot ?
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| 11:29 | for PXE i have a workaround ...
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| 11:29 | <filorp> I'm using PXE now
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| 11:30 | <ogra> add nfsroot="192.168.13.30:/opt/ltsp/i386" to your PXE config
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| 11:30 | usually thats in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 11:31 | <Shane-S> orge, I read somewhere PXE is newer the Bootp,and should be used over it, is etherboot something else? Is that untrue, was just some tech's blog
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| 11:31 | <ogra> append it to he lie in there
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| 11:31 | Shane-S, thats true ...
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| 11:31 | <Shane-S> sorry s/orge/orga/
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| 11:31 | <ogra> most newer network cards can do PXE
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| 11:31 | <Shane-S> LTSP supports both though right?
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| 11:31 | <ogra> right
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| 11:32 | <Shane-S> ok, cause I have older systems, like I said K12LTSP was my into, and it just works on an old server out of the box
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| 11:36 | <filorp> ogra , I added that line in my PXE config...
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| 11:37 | now , should I restart ltsp in someway?
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| 11:37 | maybe not
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| 11:37 | <ogra> just the client
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| 11:37 | <filorp> ok , I run
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| 11:37 | ;)
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| 11:40 | <vagrantc> initramfs-tools 0.88 fixed the bug with specifying IP in the root-path argument
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| 11:41 | <ogra> ah, right
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| 11:41 | * ogra looked at the bug today when he stole the patch for ubuntu ... but forgot the version already | |
| 11:42 | * vagrantc smiles at the new basqe translation | |
| 11:42 | <ogra> damned, that remonds me, i need to add the gettext stuff to ldm ...
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| 11:42 | i already started it, but am not done yet ...
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| 11:42 | <vagrantc> indeed!
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| 11:43 | <ogra> i want at least *some* translations in gutsy
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| 11:43 | for the gui
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| 11:44 | <vagrantc> oooh. vietnamese
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| 11:44 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: Welll... chaging things inside ldm-theme doesnt seen to make any difference... but inside there are the file that are being displayed at the login prompt... =//
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| 11:44 | <ogra> cdealer, are yu sure you edit in the right directory ?
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| 11:44 | cdealer, which logo do you see on the current ldm screen ?
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| 11:45 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: the UBUNTU title that are in the login screen ... I changed it, I change the colors file to other color and nothing happens
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| 11:46 | <ogra> use /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/ubuntu as the dir and see if that works then
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| 11:47 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: the files inside the ldm-theme folder (that point to /usr/share/ldm/themes/ubuntu)
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| 11:47 | [ogra]:: I will give a try
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| 11:47 | <ogra> also how do you test the new theme ? just restarting X ? that might not suffice ...
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| 11:48 | might be necessary to reboot the client
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| 11:48 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: I have reboot both server and client... but I think what you said will work nice
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| 11:48 | <ogra> (its ages ago that i made the themes, cant remember)
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| 11:48 | and gutsy has a completely new and different ldm ...
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| 11:49 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: I was editing the /usr/share/ldm/themes/ubuntu but is like you said its inside /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/ubuntu
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| 11:49 | <ogra> ah, right, indeed
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| 11:49 | we have galician translations ? wow
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| 11:50 | <vagrantc> ctrl-alt-backspace at least works with the python ldm to reload a theme
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| 11:50 | <cdealer> [vagrantc]:: yeah.. worked here too
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| 11:50 | <vagrantc> ooooh! i have real hardware to test on!
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| 11:50 | <ogra> vagrantc, for ldm2 thats currentl rather a matter of luck *G*
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| 11:51 | <vagrantc> i gotta test this newfandangled ldm
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| 11:51 | <ogra> yeah
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| 11:51 | i'm eager to test the new stuff sbalneav wrote with the stdin/stdout controlled greeter
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| 11:52 | but he's not done yet its nothing i can pull in
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| 11:52 | so i'm waiting for his go ...
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| 11:52 | but the current one in ubuntu is already very impressing
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| 11:53 | vagrantc, yu gotta test nbd/squash/unionfs ;)
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| 11:54 | * ogra goes to find some dinner | |
| 11:54 | <vagrantc> yeah, i've got lots of testing to do.
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| 12:03 | <filorp> ogra. when I boot the client now I can read there is an error "missing parameter in config file"
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| 12:04 | <ogra> how far does the boot get ?
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| 12:04 | <filorp> just after it reads the pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 12:04 | in the beginning
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| 12:05 | and then arrive the same problem about nfs as before
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| 12:06 | wrong sintax in pxe config?
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| 12:07 | DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp
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| 12:07 | nfsroot="192.168.13.30:/opt/ltsp/i386"
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| 12:07 | <ogra> filorp, that needs to be on the same line
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| 12:08 | <filorp> aa
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| 12:09 | DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp nfsroot="192.168.13.30:/opt/ltsp/i386"
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| 12:09 | <ogra> right
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| 12:09 | <vagrantc> drop the "
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| 12:09 | i think
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| 12:10 | <filorp> ok I try also without "
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| 12:13 | <vagrantc> man, i really gotta do some work on the ltsp-client-builder udeb ... i just merged the ubuntu code on the idea that i'd have all of lenny release to fix it :)
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| 12:14 | <ogra> well, i need to rewrite a lot of it before tribe 3
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| 12:14 | (july 19th)
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| 12:15 | add some entertainemnt for the users while mksquashfs is running ....
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| 12:16 | vagrantc, there is a way through fd 9 and some fifos to get the output of ltsp-build-cient to the installer ui ...
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| 12:17 | but its a very complicated redirection you need for that
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| 12:17 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: ok ... other problem. Im trying to make the webcam to work. Localy its working already. If I try to test using camorama or camstream on the client I cant connect to the /dev/video0 device... but when I go to the shell and make a od -x /dev/video0 I have an output (showing that the device is receiving the webcam)... how do I make this device to work ?
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| 12:20 | <filorp> pxe config sintax alright and then a new message about nfs->
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| 12:21 | <vagrantc> ogra: it would be nice to figure it out, for sure.
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| 12:21 | ogra: the udeb only works with d-i ... not the ubiquity installs ?
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| 12:21 | <filorp> "NFS over TCP not available from 192.168.13.30
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| 12:21 | "
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| 12:22 | :(
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| 12:22 | <vagrantc> i really wish i could figure out why people get that error message.
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| 12:22 | it happens often enough...
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| 12:25 | <filorp> any help?
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| 12:25 | still there... ogra?
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| 12:27 | I search on google
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| 12:28 | <cdealer> [ogra]:: was to bad the question ? lol
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| 12:34 | <jvin248> How to specify the root-server? I have clients booting thorugh pxe but are failing nfsmount because they are grabbing the router as rootserver rather than the ltsp server.
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| 12:35 | I have a mixed dhcp (modem provides it unless ltsp server is on and then it gives "authoritative" command).
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| 12:36 | I tried the suggestion for <filorp> but didn't get any farther. Any lines like "option root-server x.x.x.x;" in dhcpd3.conf to do this?
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| 12:36 | ltsp server has a static IP
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| 12:38 | err.. /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file (running ltsp on kubuntu 6.10).
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| 12:41 | <filorp> what kind of router is your primary dhcp server jvin248?
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| 12:44 | <cdealer> any ideia about how to make the thinclient webcam to work ?
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| 13:33 | <cdealer> ogra ?
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| 13:35 | <BarucK> alguem poderia me da uma help ?
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| 13:36 | <cdealer> [BarucK]:: pergunte...
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| 13:37 | <BarucK> cdealer: tipow to logado com meu user no server ai minha maquina/thin client trava as coisas que estou fazendo fica preza no servidor teria como recuperar a sessao ?
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| 13:38 | <cdealer> [BarucK]:: como assim recuperar a sessao ? ctrl+alt+backspace ?
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| 13:38 | <BarucK> cdealer: recuperar o que vc estava fazendo
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| 13:38 | pq o o thin client travo tudo o que vc tava fazendo fico preza no servidor
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| 13:39 | recuperar o que eu estava fazendo
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| 13:40 | <cdealer> [BarucK]:: velho... aqui isso nao acontece... deve ter algo errado com tua instalacao ai
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| 13:41 | <BarucK> cdealer: tipow vc ta mexendo e seu thin cliente travo ou vc desligo ele sem kere a sua sessao o que vc ta fazendo fica travado no servidor correto ?
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| 13:41 | fica presa*
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| 13:42 | <BarucK> da nads obrigado pela atenção
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| 14:00 | <ElV> hi guys!
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| 14:01 | can anyone help me?
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| 14:01 | with ltsp 4?
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| 14:01 | <ElV> a small detail
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| 14:03 | I am getting some problems runnnin local apps
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| 14:05 | <cdealer> EIV, have you tested the Local_Apps = Y parameter?
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| 14:15 | <ElV> well yes
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| 14:15 | I can run console applications
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| 14:15 | But I can't run anything with the X
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| 14:15 | argh
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| 14:15 | I can't export the client display
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| 14:18 | <wires> I have a problem that I'm hoping that someone can help me with. I'm using LTSP 3 and I'm trying to configure an IBM ThinkCentre 8185 as a client. On powering it up it gets as far as: "loading 192.168.2.100:/lts/vmliuz-2.4.19-ltsp-1 .." and then halts.
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| 14:19 | I have 11 other clients that work fine. No other ThinkCentres though.
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| 14:20 | <cdealer> why dont u use ltsp5?
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| 14:21 | <ElV> me or wires?
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| 14:24 | <wires> This is for a personal folding@home farm. I don't use it for anything other than that. I got it working a while ago and have been generaly hands-off so I don't risk fubaring it. I haven't been keeping up with releases.
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| 14:26 | <wires> The server CPU is less than half the speed of the one in the ThinkCentre. Does anyone know if a slow server and fast client is a problomatic combination?
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| 15:02 | <Gadi> ogra: ping
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| 15:02 | <ogra> Gadi, ?
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| 15:02 | <Gadi> hey - quick qu: in gutsy, what writes to ltspfs_fstab?
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| 15:03 | <ogra> udev
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| 15:04 | <Gadi> hmm... i dont see it in add_fstab_entry
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| 15:04 | still writes to /etc/fstab
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| 15:05 | is ltspfsd v. 0.4.3-0ubuntu7 the latest?
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| 15:06 | <ogra> yep
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| 15:07 | (sorry, edubuntu meetig in #ubuntu-meeting)
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| 15:07 | <Gadi> ok, sorry, too
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| 15:07 | thx
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| 15:08 | <ogra> i havent updated ltspfs to scotties latest changes yet ...
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| 17:25 | <ElV> hey guys hello again
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| 17:25 | just install ubunto with ltsp
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| 17:25 | but the clients don't autenticate
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| 17:25 | anythougts?
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| 17:37 | <ElV> ping
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| 18:11 | * vagrantc is impressed by the response for the request for translations | |
| 18:12 | <vagrantc> so far, within 24 hours of posting a request for translations for ltsp in debian, i've gotten translations for portuguese, galician, basque, and vietnamese ... and an updated german translation
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| 18:12 | <ElV> nice
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| 18:12 | that must be a rewarding felling
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| 18:13 | <vagrantc> unfortunately, it's not a translation of the other parts of the system, just the debconf questions
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| 18:14 | i should ask for translations for those, too...
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| 18:15 | <ElV> lol
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| 18:19 | | |
| 18:19 | I am getting tired of this configuration issues
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| 18:19 | argh
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| 18:20 | ubuntu looks god dow..
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| 18:20 | good
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| 18:44 | <dave_> Hello fellows. I have an otherwise great LTSP setup, it crashes only one client with a PCI card (ATI Rage Pro).
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| 18:45 | I tried disabling the other mobo-based VGA adapter in BIOS and through jumpers, but the problem persists.
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| 18:46 | Any ideas?
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| 18:47 | <ElV> hey
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| 18:47 | ldm don't login
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| 18:47 | ldm.log
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| 18:47 | give me some pointers but not enough
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| 19:41 | <vagrantc> ElV: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 19:42 | ElV: try again
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| 20:52 | <jvin248> I'm running Kubuntu 6.10 LTSP and want to change the "ubuntu" background image on the LTSP client login screen..Where is the image stored, and is it just a simple picture (login box is separate?) or more complicated?
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| 21:37 | <vagrantc> jvin248: look in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes
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| 21:37 | jvin248: use update-alternatives to configure yours
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| 22:03 | <jvin248> vagrantc: do I just 'sudo update-alternatives' once I'm in that directory? I don't see any .png .jpg etc files there...
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| 22:53 | <vagrantc> jvin248: you need to use update-alternatives to redirect the "default" symlink in that directory
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| 22:53 | jvin248: man update-alternatives
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| 22:53 | you'll have to update-alternatives --install ... .as well as update-alternatives --config
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| 22:54 | jvin248: each of the directories in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes is a theme ...
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| 22:55 | jvin248: and /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/default is a symbolic link that points to which directory to use ...
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| 22:55 | jvin248: and update-alternatives is what you should use to change /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/default
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| 22:55 | jvin248: good luck.
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