IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 22 May 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:14 | <Faithful> mistik1 you about?
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| 00:14 | <mistik1> Faithful: yea
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| 00:15 | <Faithful> I can give it another go now
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| 00:15 | does it configure Nat?
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| 00:16 | <mistik1> sure
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| 00:16 | killerwall autoconf
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| 00:16 | that will setup a default /etc/firewall.conf and a blank /etc/killerwall.acl
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| 00:17 | You should still validate the files created
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| 00:17 | <Faithful> is the one on the web the latest?
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| 00:18 | <mistik1> its the latest I had before I lost the old site
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| 00:18 | <Faithful> :(
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| 00:18 | Jim sent me one before that worked just fine
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| 00:20 | mistik1: still does the same thing... where do I begin to debug
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| 00:20 | <mistik1> what is /bin/sh
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| 00:20 | <Faithful> /bin/sh -> dash
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| 00:21 | Ok fixed thanks
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| 00:21 | <mistik1> np
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| 00:23 | <Faithful> just run in rc.local?
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| 00:23 | <mistik1> it should work fine as a service by itself
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| 00:24 | <Faithful> is there a howto on that?
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| 00:24 | <mistik1> there is a README
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| 00:24 | that's all you need
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| 00:25 | <Faithful> ok
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| 00:25 | <mistik1> just drop it into /etc/init.d and use your system tools to add it to whatever runlevel you start with
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| 00:26 | run it without any args and it should print all supported arguments
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| 00:33 | <Faithful> thanks mistik1 for a cool script
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| 00:33 | btw, hows things... we haven't talked for an eternity
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| 00:44 | <mistik1> Thinks have been educational to say the least
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| 02:25 | <Nikopoika> i propably have asked this before but my client seems to freeze during boot.. with the following text "eth0: setting half-duplex"
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| 02:25 | and then nothing happens
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| 02:27 | <Jenna> Nikopoika. load up the right NIC driver
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| 03:05 | <Nikopoika> Jenna: it worked, thx
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| 03:32 | <ikabot> Hi everyone.
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| 03:32 | The back of my ears are reasonably wet when it comes to terminal services.
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| 03:33 | <Rimas> Hi! Is there someone from Ukraine?
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| 03:33 | <ikabot> It it possible to run a thin client that connects to its own Xen virtual server?
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| 03:34 | <vanya> Rimas, Hi, I am
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| 03:34 | <ikabot> So that a user can think that their desktop is on their machine, but all the processing is running on a Xen server?
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| 03:37 | <vagrantc> ikabot: what do you gain by that
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| 03:37 | ?
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| 03:43 | <ikabot> The client hardware is cheaper.
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| 03:43 | This is for a net cafe.
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| 03:43 | I also want people to be able to bring their own VM images.
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| 03:43 | <vagrantc> but ... why do you want it in a Xen server?
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| 03:43 | <ikabot> On a USB dongle.
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| 03:43 | <vagrantc> oh.
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| 03:43 | crazy. ok...
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| 03:44 | <ikabot> I don't know enough about Xen.
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| 03:44 | So maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree.
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| 03:44 | But I want to be able to modify the terminal.
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| 03:44 | <vagrantc> ikabot: i guess, describe what you are trying to accomplish rather than the specific technologies
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| 03:44 | <ikabot> It's open source so that should be possible,.
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| 03:44 | I want to add access control and billing to the terminal.
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| 03:45 | Sure.
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| 03:45 | I want the terminal to control access and billing. So it will track how much time they have spent and how much data they've transferred.
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| 03:47 | <vagrantc> i don't think there's (much) existing software to do that at the moment ...
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| 03:47 | <ikabot> But they must use a fresh VM image for each session.
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| 03:48 | And if they want, they can use their own VM image.
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| 03:48 | That will give them a lot more confidence.
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| 03:48 | In my experience, people don't really trust machines in net cafes.
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| 03:48 | <vagrantc> this sure ain't your typical internet cafe
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| 03:48 | <ikabot> Yeah, my cafe will be better.
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| 03:49 | I'm just in the planning stages now though.
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| 03:49 | Checking to see if it will be feasible.
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| 03:49 | <vagrantc> well, the additional trust gained would be minimal, even if the virtual machine was fresh each time
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| 03:49 | <ikabot> So I'm investigating Xen and LTSP as possible tech solutions.
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| 03:50 | But people being able to bring their own images.
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| 03:50 | That would be good.
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| 03:50 | <vagrantc> i guess random people off the street wouldn't be able to start key loggers and such ... but you'd still have to trust the people running the internet cafe
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| 03:50 | <ikabot> Yes, but even that trust need is less if you can bring your own image on a USB stick.
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| 03:50 | <vagrantc> bringing in their own images would likely be a major support headache ...
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| 03:50 | <ikabot> True.
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| 03:51 | Do you think it's feasible though?
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| 03:51 | <vagrantc> no, because if i'm running a virtual machine on someone else's host machine, they have total control over my virtual machine ...
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| 03:51 | <ikabot> I didn't think of that.
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| 03:51 | <vagrantc> feasible, sure.
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| 03:52 | <ikabot> I guess they would have to trust me.
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| 03:52 | But as a big business, I have a reputation to maintain.
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| 03:52 | It's the people off the street that are taken out of the equation.
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| 03:52 | <vagrantc> how many people are going to understand the whole virtual machine thing who wouldn't just have a laptop of their own?
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| 03:53 | <ikabot> I'd sell the virtual machines preloaded onto sticks in my cafe.
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| 03:53 | And those who don't understand will trust me more than those that do.
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| 03:53 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 03:54 | <vagrantc> ikabot: well, with an LTSP5 implementation, it shouldn't be much more difficult than setting it up on a standalone workstation.
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| 03:54 | <ikabot> :)
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| 03:55 | Okay. Thanks for the advice. I think I'm on the right track tech wise for what I want to do.
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| 03:55 | <vagrantc> the last time i tried setting up XEN on an LTSP client i had a little trouble with getting all the right writeable directories
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| 03:55 | but that's totally configurable
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| 03:55 | <ikabot> And maybe I could make a contribution to LTSP with my billing code.
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| 03:56 | But it is possible for a Xen server to run a vm off a USB stick connected to a remote client?
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| 03:57 | Because my whole "bring your stick" scheme won't work otherwise.
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| 03:57 | <vagrantc> though some simpler billing system might be more widely useful :P
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| 03:58 | ikabot: not without some ugly, ugly things happening
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| 03:58 | <ikabot> What I have in mind is simple. It will track how much time you've been using the terminal and how much data has been transferred.
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| 03:58 | Could I not make the stick available to the server via SMB?
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| 03:58 | <vagrantc> well, a billing option not dependent on XEN is more what i meant
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| 03:59 | ikabot: at which point, you would loose the trust of anyone who had a clue
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| 03:59 | ikabot: you'd be better off running each thin client as a XEN server ... but then it increases your requirements for the cliens
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| 03:59 | clients
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| 04:01 | the whole "bring your own XEN image" idea is the most complicated part... no quite as bad if the user merely logs into a new XEN instance on a server ...
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| 04:03 | <ikabot> Perhaps I could roll out the "use my images" option first.
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| 04:03 | And experiment once I'm up and running.
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| 04:03 | Thanks for the advice.
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| 04:03 | I'll be back later.
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| 04:03 | Need to reboot though.
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| 05:44 | <envite> ¡Hola a todos desde España en campaña!
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| 05:44 | Hello all from Spain!
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| 05:46 | <ikabot> Buenos dias, envite.
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| 05:46 | Como esta Usted?
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| 07:09 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hi all
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| 07:16 | <jammcq> g'morning
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| 07:17 | <vagrantc> jammcq: buenas tardes
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| 07:17 | <jammcq> vagrantc: madrid ?
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| 07:18 | <vagrantc> jammcq: si.
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| 07:18 | i haven't really moved around much
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| 07:24 | <cliebow_> anyonr big on bogons in arpwatch?
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| 08:08 | <cliebow_> jam!!
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| 08:19 | <cliebow_> using wireshark what should the print command be besides lpr?
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| 08:26 | <yopla> hello! Don't really understand question. Want to analyse network trafic with print commands?
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| 08:28 | <jammcq> cliebow_: using wireshark, just watch for raw data on port 9100
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| 08:30 | <yopla> or perhaps you just want to print some warshark output?
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| 08:33 | <jammcq> hmm, maybe that's what he's asking
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| 08:36 | <yopla> lol! lpr -Pprintername?
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| 08:36 | <cliebow_> i figured a way around it..i was having a snior moment what to use in lieu of lpr to print output from wireshark...in the old rh i used kprinter --stdin
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| 08:37 | looking at my cleartext password from a citrix login as we speak....8~(
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| 08:38 | heh
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| 08:39 | <yopla> citrix use RDP?
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| 08:39 | <cliebow_> ica
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| 08:39 | <vagrantc> ah, security through blind hope
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| 08:40 | <yopla> could it be ssh tunneled?
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| 08:41 | <cliebow_> it is web..so perhaps https?
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| 08:42 | <Gad1> morning, all
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| 08:42 | <yopla> you're talking about citrix web interface?
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| 08:44 | <cliebow_> yep
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| 08:44 | Gadi!!
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| 08:45 | <yopla> http is sure cleartext
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| 08:48 | <yopla> what os your client?
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| 08:52 | <cliebow_> xubuntu
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| 08:56 | <yopla> what port use cititrix server?
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| 09:02 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 09:03 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: heya :)
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| 09:03 | <sbalneav> Hey vagrantc!
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| 09:03 | Was doing some hacking on the weekend on LDM
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| 09:04 | Started to play around with python expect, to add in support for password expiry
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| 09:04 | <jammcq> !s
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| 09:04 | <ltspbot> jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:04 | <sbalneav> Morning jammcq!
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| 09:04 | <jammcq> isn't the python version of LDM gonna be replaced by a C version?
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| 09:04 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: better you than me :)
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| 09:05 | <sbalneav> jammcq: No, the greeter's going to be replaced with a C version.
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| 09:05 | <jammcq> ah
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| 09:05 | <sbalneav> There's two bits to ldm
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| 09:05 | <jammcq> k
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| 09:05 | sbalneav: check your private msg
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| 09:28 | <cliebow_> sbalneav, you used active pytihon in the "other" operating system?
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| 09:29 | <sbalneav> Have I used python in Windows, you mean?
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| 09:29 | <cliebow_> yes (in small letters)
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| 09:29 | <sbalneav> Hard for me to do, seeing as how I haven't used windows since 1999 :)
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| 09:29 | So, no.
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| 09:30 | <cliebow_> heh:i thought as much..
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| 09:31 | <yopla> LDM is actually python daemon?
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| 09:31 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 09:36 | <yopla> ok
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| 09:46 | <sbalneav> Hey ogra-classmate
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| 09:47 | <ogra-classmate> heya
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| 09:47 | <highvoltage> hello sbalneav and ogra-classmate
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| 09:48 | <highvoltage> hello vagrantc!
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| 09:49 | <vagrantc> wow.
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| 10:01 | <yopla> I had a look on LTSP 5. This is a very good rethinking of the project
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| 10:03 | <sbalneav> We like it :)
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| 10:03 | <vagrantc> could be better
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| 10:04 | <ogra-classmate> make it better :P
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| 10:58 | <markgreene> When I run update-ssh-keys. It fails. That is the only solution I have seen for the problem of getting a login screen but always being dropped back to it when attempting to login
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| 10:59 | any suggestions?
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| 11:00 | <ogra> check ~/.xsession-errors of that user
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| 11:01 | <jammcq> well, first thing I'd do is tell us what you mean by "it fails"
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| 11:13 | <markgreene> jammcq: First let me start from the beggining
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| 11:14 | <markgreene> I am running centOS 5. I downloaded the Ubuntu 6.10 tarball, as well as ltsp-update-kernels and ssh-keys
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| 11:16 | When I boot a thin client I get an Ubuntu login screen where, when I type in a username and password it goes black for a few seconds, and the kicks me back to the login screen with no errors or anyuthing
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| 11:16 | <jammcq> yeah, that much I get. you said you get an error running update-ssh-keys
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| 11:16 | but you didn't say what the error is
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| 11:20 | <markgreene> jammcq: Here is the output of the script. I am running it from /usr/local/sbin of my CENTOS system.
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| 11:20 | /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 6: tempfile: command not found
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| 11:20 | /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
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| 11:20 | /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
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| 11:20 | /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
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| 11:20 | /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
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| 11:20 | /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
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| 11:20 | /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
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| 11:20 | Setting up ssh_known_hosts in:
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| 11:20 | <CiNzAs> :D
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| 11:20 | <markgreene> /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386
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| 11:20 | install: missing destination file operand after `/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts'
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| 11:20 | Try `install --help' for more information.
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| 11:20 | <jammcq> plz don't paste long things here in the channel. that's what the pastebot is for
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| 11:20 | !pastebot
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| 11:20 | <ltspbot> jammcq: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 11:21 | <markgreene> thanks - sorry for my ignorance
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| 11:21 | <jammcq> but, based on your errors, I'd say it prolly has alot to do with why you can't log in
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| 11:23 | <markgreene> ogra: I don't have an .Xsession folder in the users home
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| 11:23 | <markgreene> that might explain some things
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| 11:24 | <Gad1> markgreene: since ltsp-update-sshkeys failed, you will need to add your server's public key to the chroot's known_hosts
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| 11:24 | <CiNzAs> markgreene: do it
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| 11:24 | <Gad1> ie, take the contents of: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub and add it to /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
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| 11:24 | <CiNzAs> markgreene: open /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 11:25 | <Gad1> or fix the script
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| 11:25 | <CiNzAs> markgreene: and change output=$(tempfile) to output=xpto
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| 11:25 | run the script, and then try to login
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| 11:26 | anyone as ltsp5 running in a thin client with a sis7019 onboard sound ?
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| 11:27 | <markgreene> CiNzAs: That fixed the errors being thrown, but I still cannot login. Same issue
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| 11:28 | One question. Should I me using usernames and passwords from the host machine, or should I be chrooting into the ubuntu system and adduser?
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| 11:29 | <ogra> you ssh into the host machine, so all user maintenance should take place there
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| 11:29 | the thin client doesnt need users to start an X server and ldm
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| 11:29 | <CiNzAs> markgreene: cat /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i38/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
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| 11:29 | does it have the sshe server pub keys ?
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| 11:30 | <markgreene> yes - it outputs a bunch of garble
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| 11:30 | <Gad1> ogra: I found a lil buggy in the new greeter you sent me that I am trying to squash
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| 11:30 | <ogra> tell me about it
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| 11:31 | <Gad1> ogra: it seems to not exit properly and instead the gtk process goes zombie
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| 11:31 | <markgreene> Could this have to do with the fact that I don't have a graphical enviroment on my server?
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| 11:31 | <Gad1> which screws up the ldm script
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| 11:31 | <ogra> as long as it spawns a subshell for the ssh session thats normal
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| 11:31 | <CiNzAs> markgreene: reboot :P
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| 11:31 | <Gad1> ogra: doesnt happen with python greeter
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| 11:31 | <ogra> markgreene, you need a desktop
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| 11:31 | oh207, weird
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| 11:32 | <markgreene> orga: I need something like KDE or Gnome?
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| 11:32 | installed on the HOST machine
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| 11:32 | <ogra> markgreene, ldm executes: ssh -X user@server /etc/X11/Xsession
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| 11:32 | on the server
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| 11:33 | the output of this is redirected t the thin client screen
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| 11:33 | *to
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| 11:33 | so you need some kind of Xsession on the server ...
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| 11:33 | <markgreene> ok thats my problem then
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| 11:33 | thanks for the help
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| 11:33 | <ogra> while its not necessary to have X installed or configured you need a window manager or desktop session
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| 11:34 | usually ~/.xsession-errors tells you about that after a failed login attempt
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| 11:34 | <CiNzAs> i guess nobody uses sis7019 module ..
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| 11:36 | <Gad1> ogra: so the manifestation of that bug is that the greeter does not respawn when the user logs out
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| 11:36 | because its already zombied
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| 11:36 | <ogra> happens fine here, weird
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| 11:36 | <Gad1> hmm...
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| 11:36 | <ogra> i see a zombie as well, but that vanishes once the ssh session returned
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| 11:37 | how its supposed to be
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| 11:37 | <Gad1> ah, so it stays zombie until ssh ends and then it goes away?
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| 11:37 | <ogra> yep
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| 11:38 | <Gad1> hmm... maybe ssh is not ending properly
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| 11:38 | <ogra> its dead, but still has children tat are executed
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| 11:38 | <Gad1> thats more likely
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| 11:38 | <ogra> yeah, check on the client console
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| 11:38 | you should see the ssh process hanging around
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| 11:38 | <Gad1> ok
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| 11:39 | <ogra> and very likely its dbus or some dbus using app that hangs the session on the server side
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| 11:39 | <Gad1> btw, I bzr'd the patch I had
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| 11:39 | <ogra> i already ran it for some days here, seems fine to include
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| 11:39 | <Gad1> https://code.launchpad.net/~gideon/ltsp/gadi-ldm-mods-ltsp
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| 11:39 | ah, good
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| 11:40 | vagrantc mentioned that you had some issues with it working
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| 11:40 | he prodded me to bzr it
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| 11:40 | ;)
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| 11:41 | <ogra-classmate> but currently this baby has all my attention, can you mail me the url ?
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| 11:41 | the classmate stuff will likely keep me busy until the end of the week
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| 11:48 | <fxrsliberty> jammcq: how you ding?
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| 11:51 | <irule> I know you guys use a log of squid, please help for a quick restart I killed squids processes and deleted /var/run/squid.pid but now it will not start! what can I do?
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| 11:57 | <sutula> irule: What distribution are you running? How are you trying to start it? What error message are you seeing?
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| 12:01 | <irule> opensuse with service squid start and the message is blurry, just saying that it will not start
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| 12:03 | <sutula> irule: Has it worked before, or are you trying to start it for the first time?
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| 12:04 | <irule> yes its been working for months perfectly
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| 12:05 | <sutula> irule: I don't use suse, but do use squid under Debian (and it's working for me)
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| 12:06 | irule: Since it's a little off-topic here, I'd suggest asking on #squid, or I notice there's a number of #opensuse channels, some in other languages as well
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| 12:06 | probably someone there could be of more help
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| 12:07 | <jammcq> also, go look in /var/log
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| 12:07 | there's certainly a logfile that contains the error message
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| 12:07 | <Gad1> so, I noticed yesterday that the loopback interface is not brought up on feisty's chroot on boot...
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| 12:08 | if a guy were to want that brought up, what is the ubuntu way of doing that?
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| 12:08 | <ogra-classmate> Gad1: upgraded or freshly built ?
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| 12:08 | <Gad1> freshly built
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| 12:08 | <ogra-classmate> the fresh ones should add it to /etc7
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| 12:08 | ERGH
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| 12:08 | /etc/network/interfaces
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| 12:09 | <Gadi> ah, yes - mine is empty
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| 12:09 | <ogra> ogra@laptop:~/Desktop$ grep lo /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/network/interfaces
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| 12:09 | # The loopback network interface
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| 12:09 | auto lo
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| 12:09 | iface lo inet loopback
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| 12:09 | weird
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| 12:09 | <Gadi> which package adds it?
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| 12:09 | <ogra> ltsp-build-client
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| 12:09 | <Gadi> ah
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| 12:09 | ok
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| 12:09 | this may have been 'freshly built' pre-release
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| 12:10 | <ogra> ogra@laptop:~/Desktop$ grep loopback /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/*|grep default
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| 12:10 | /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/030-loopback: # create default loopback entry
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| 12:10 | check your ltsp-server package is at 5.0.7
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| 12:10 | <Gadi> it is
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| 12:10 | <ogra> not sure when it was added, but surely after the switch to a 5.0 version number
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| 12:11 | well, if you built the chroot from a prerelease it wont be feisty :)
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| 12:11 | <irule> Starting WWW-proxy squid startproc: exit status of parent of /usr/sbin/squid: 1
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| 12:11 | failed
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| 12:11 | servidor-linux:~ #
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| 12:11 | <Gadi> yes, yes - wise guy
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| 12:12 | i thought you were busy! ;)
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| 12:12 | <ogra> i am, but i like to relax my fingers from the classmate keyboard from time to time ;)
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| 12:13 | its simply not built for fingers plder than 15
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| 12:13 | *older
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| 12:18 | <Q-FUNK> thank goodness, they didn't call it a playmate
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| 12:27 | <markgreene> where can I see on the server the ssh request from a thin client?
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| 12:27 | what log?
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| 12:27 | <ogra> auth
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| 12:28 | <markgreene> I don't have a /var/log/auth
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| 12:28 | <ogra> auth.log
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| 12:29 | <markgreene> none
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| 12:29 | file - folder - link : nothing
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| 12:29 | <ogra> no idea where centos stores that then
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| 12:29 | <mhterres> hi all
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| 12:30 | <Gadi> markgreene: try /var/log/messages
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| 12:30 | <markgreene> Gadi: Ogra: Found it: /var/log/secure
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| 12:30 | <ogra> ah
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| 12:31 | <markgreene> Well I am going an install of KDE, Gnome, and X Windows system
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| 12:31 | When that is done I will have to get it setup and things should work
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| 12:32 | this is going to be so cool!
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| 12:34 | <Guaraldo> markgreene: :-D
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| 12:35 | <ogra> you shouldnt need X window system :)
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| 12:35 | <markgreene> ogra: is that so? I just assumed. Once it is all done downloading - should it boot up to a login screen? or do I need to config something?
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| 12:36 | <ogra> nope, should wor out of the box
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| 12:37 | but X is installed with the thin client tarball, you only need the one on the client
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| 12:38 | <markgreene> ogra: so I just need to install KDE or Gnome?
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| 12:38 | <ogra> right
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| 14:40 | <dan__t> Howdy.
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| 14:40 | Anyone doing much work lately with LTSP under FC7?
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| 14:41 | <vagrantc> dan__t: if so, they're not present here much
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| 14:41 | <dan__t> Noted.
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| 14:41 | <vagrantc> we'd love to see it, as i know it will result in a better LTSP to have more distros involed
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| 14:41 | involved
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| 14:46 | <pem725> I have quick question about sound (ltsp 5)
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| 14:46 | <vagrantc> pem725: what distro?
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| 14:47 | <pem725> ubuntu
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| 14:47 | 6.10
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| 14:47 | does my server need a sound card or can I use the dummy driver?
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| 14:47 | <vagrantc> server doesn't need a sound card
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| 14:47 | <pem725> excellent.
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| 14:48 | thanks.
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| 14:48 | I guess another question logically follows. How does the server pass sound commands to the client if the server does not have a sound card? Dummy?
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| 14:48 | <vagrantc> it used a network sound protocol ... for that version, esound ... in ubuntu feisty, pulseaudio
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| 14:49 | <pem725> ah, got it.
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| 14:49 | thanks greatly vagrantc. Much appreciated.
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| 14:49 | <vagrantc> thanks for asking easy questions :)
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| 14:49 | <vagrantc> sometimes people come in here with all sorts of challenging ones :)
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| 14:50 | <pem725> my pleasure.
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| 14:51 | btw, I have 10 clients setup in my research lab using ltsp and I cannot believe more researchers don't use this great software.
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| 14:51 | I do no hardware maintenance. Great stuff.
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| 14:51 | <vagrantc> spread the word :)
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| 14:51 | <pem725> thanks again. I'll get off the line and spread the word.
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| 14:51 | cheers.
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| 14:52 | <vagrantc> man, that pem725 was so easy to please :)
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| 14:52 | i was expecting something like ... "so, how do i configure sound, and i followed all the instructions and it doesn't work"
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| 14:55 | <sutula> vagrantc: You're used to me saying sound doesn't work...but I also echo pem725's sentiments...It is *great* not to have to administer a half-dozen Windoze boxes at home...I'll keep using it and keep working on the remaining problems :)
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| 15:03 | <vagrantc> sutula: glad to have folks like you too :)
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| 15:07 | <zombi1> Hey Everyone, is it possible to run LTSP over the Internet with decent response times? I'm thinking I'd like to publish a desktop to my brother's house so I can manage it for him. Both of us are running common high-speed cable connections.
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| 15:07 | Is this worth looking into or should I run a NoMachine session?
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| 15:08 | <vagrantc> just go with nomachine or vnc or something. there's nothing LTSP specific in what you want to do
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| 15:09 | <zombi1> thanks for the quick advice - have a good day
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| 15:10 | <vagrantc> LTSP is really just a collection of protocols, typically TFTP, NFS, DHCP and XDMCP or SSH X11 Forwarding
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| 15:13 | <Gadi> jammcq: ping
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| 15:14 | <jammcq> Gadi: pong
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| 15:14 | <Gadi> i bought my tix to msp - would you believe it?
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| 15:14 | almost a month early
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| 15:15 | <jammcq> Gadi: wow, not 30 seconds ago, I bought my plane ticket
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| 15:15 | like, I clicked 'accept', and got a ping from you :)
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| 15:15 | <Gadi> heh
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| 15:15 | Im flying Sun Country Airlines
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| 15:16 | :)
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| 15:16 | <jammcq> i'm doing Northwest from Flint
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| 15:16 | <Gadi> hopefully they have planes...
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| 15:21 | <jammcq> and the planes have wings
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| 15:21 | <Gadi> well, that wasnt in the brochure
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| 15:21 | ;)
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| 15:22 | hey, I'm off to pack for the Cheesecake holiday...
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| 15:22 | see you guys on Friday
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| 15:22 | <jammcq> cheezecake ?
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| 15:22 | <jammcq> mmmmm
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| 15:22 | <Gadi> mmm indeed
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| 15:22 | cheers
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| 15:36 | <jammcq> GodFather: hey
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| 15:36 | <GodFather> hey, Now and Forever!!! hee hee
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| 15:38 | <jammcq> heh
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| 15:38 | <GodFather> ya
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| 15:39 | got to go, ta ta!
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| 15:39 | <jammcq> ciao
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| 17:48 | <sahil> hi im having trouble loading hte usb-uhci module
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| 17:48 | any ideas why?
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| 17:56 | thats no longer a problem but when it tries to load x the screen kinda blinks and then stays black
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| 18:08 | <sahil> now monitor is showing input signal out of range
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| 18:34 | <floatingman> 813.54 C549i
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| 18:37 | <dan__t> ??
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| 20:05 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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| 20:16 | <dan__t> wordup-
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| 20:22 | <PMantis> For some reason I can't find where to allow another subnet to query my XDMCP server.
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| 20:22 | I see no hosts.allow entry for this, no mention in gdm.conf
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| 20:22 | * PMantis searched wiki, don't see anything obvious | |
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| 20:28 | <jammcq> GodFather: hey
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| 20:28 | PMantis: as long as your routing is correct, you should be fine
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| 20:29 | <PMantis> Hmm, ok
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| 20:29 | I'll try tcpdump. :)
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| 21:48 | <PMantis> Hey Jim
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| 21:49 | jammcq, It was my firewall... didn't allow the port 6000 reply back to X server
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| 21:50 | <jammcq> heh
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| 21:50 | firewalls have been a problem today, eh?
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| 21:56 | <mistik1> jammcq: what's the current server name for mail
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| 22:00 | <jammcq> umm
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| 22:00 | dev
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| 22:01 | <mistik1> do I get there from out here with that name?
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| 22:01 | <jammcq> nope
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| 22:01 | www.mcquil.com
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| 22:02 | <mistik1> k
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| 22:05 | odd
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| 22:05 | say Login is disabled by server
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| 22:36 | <sahil> i think i have a problem with using a very old or backwards graphics chip its the sis550
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| 22:37 | for example when i start the gentoo live cd i have to give the no frame buffer problem
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| 22:37 | could this be preventing me from starting x?
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| 23:21 | <sahil> what are the various xoptions you can pass?
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| 23:28 | is there anyway to find the clients xorg.log?
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