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Channel log from 13 August 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:40 | <mealstrom> good morning
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| 07:41 | * muppis yawns hyvää huomenta. | |
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| 07:45 | <muppis> Didn't slept good at all last night and have been driving last two hours.
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| 07:49 | <mealstrom> we've got here about 18 *C and its raining. I wish to sit at home and drink some hot tea or coffee :D
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| 07:50 | <muppis> Here is also about 18 C and sun shines.
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| 12:32 | <bieb> anyone here using Centrify for Active Directory authentication?
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| 15:04 | <Blinny> Running ltsp-server-standalong 5.2.1-0ubuntu9 on Ubuntu 10.04. After a recent (this week) dist-upgrade on the server bumping NIS to 3.17-31ubuntu0.10.04.3 and subsequent conversion to upstart scripts for ypserv, ypbind, I'm now unable to log in from my thin clients. The LTSP service is an NIS slave & client. SSH logins work OK. Any ideas?
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| 16:36 | <roasted> :D
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| 16:37 | is the ltsp dhcp config file still /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf in 12.04?
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| 17:52 | <blakes> Need help with LTSP and NBD on 12.04LTS... anyone give a brother a hand?
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| 17:54 | <blakes> Upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04... all went well. Configured the dnsmasq and so on from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 17:54 | Now thinclients are being rejected by the nbd server.
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| 17:55 | <Pecker> ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 17:55 | just to make sure
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| 17:55 | <blakes> I'll try that.
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| 17:56 | <Pecker> i remember i had to update the keys once before when think clinets would boot right
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| 17:56 | e wouldnt boot right
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| 17:56 | er
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| 17:57 | bad typing again....
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| 17:57 | <blakes> not the sshkeys. same result.
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| 17:58 | <Pecker> update image too
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| 17:58 | <blakes> Which ndb server answers the call, the one from the inetd.conf or the one running as a service? Already updated the image.
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| 17:58 | <Pecker> other than that i never have used a proxy server
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| 17:58 | the nbd conf is in the ltsp files somewhere
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| 17:59 | man ltsp services get to be a mess when trying to hunt down a cfg
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| 17:59 | sorry i cant help more
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| 18:00 | <blakes> If I had hair on my head, I'd be tearing it out, for sure. Good thing I have a backup of my working 10.04lts config
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| 18:01 | <Pecker> ah backups. nice
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| 18:04 | <vagrantc> Pecker: did you also upgrade or re-install the chroot?
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| 18:04 | er, blakes ^^
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| 18:05 | <blakes> I did not change the chroot yet
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| 18:05 | <vagrantc> that will likely cause problems
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| 18:06 | switched from running the nbd root stuff from inetd to nbd-server
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| 18:06 | <blakes> the thin client is booting to the busybox prompt, but the nbd server is refusing the connection
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| 18:06 | <vagrantc> which also involves a port change, and the older code may not handle that well
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| 18:06 | and a protocol change, actually
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| 18:07 | <blakes> I have tried disabling the inetd.conf section and let the nbd server handle the request but got the same result. Could the interface be blocking the port?
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| 18:09 | <bieb> Need some help with Centrify and AD authentication.. I have Centrify installed and I can login to the server with any AD account no problem. But when I try to login from the thin client it fails, and tells me user not found... any ideas where to start looking? (ubuntu 10.10 ltsp)
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> blakes: the old chroot doesn't support the new nbd-server-based setup, it would only support the inetd style
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| 18:11 | <blakes> Ok...
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| 18:12 | I also having a new error when I restart the nbd server:
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| 18:12 | WARNING **: Could not parse config file: Could not find required value port in group ltsp_i386: Key file does not have key 'port'
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| 18:12 | the config file DOES have the port= 2000 entry in the ltsp_i386 section... wtf?
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| 18:13 | <vagrantc> it probably tried to convert the old setup on upgrade
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| 18:14 | <bieb> anybody??
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| 18:14 | <vagrantc> blakes: it seems like you should probably rebuild your chroot
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| 18:14 | blakes: fully backing up the old setup, of course
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| 18:15 | <blakes> Ok... I will rebuild the chroot, but I don't get why the nbd server won't restart now.
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| 18:16 | <vagrantc> blakes: it can be a little tricky to get nbd configuration right during the transition from oldstyle to newstyle...
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| 18:16 | i don't know ubuntu too well, so hopefully someone else can step in here...
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| 18:17 | <blakes> Thanks vagrantc! I will try to rebuild the chroot and see where that gets me.
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| 18:17 | <vagrantc> got a lot of nbd bugs fixed in debian, don't know that they made it to precise
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| 18:19 | <bieb> vagrantc: was that for me or blake?
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| 18:23 | <blakes> bieb, I thing vagrantc and I were working on the nbd problem. Not familiar with your authentication methods, sorry.
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| 18:24 | <vagrantc> bieb: i'm even more unfamiliar with AD, so sure :P
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| 18:25 | i can at least wing it with ubuntu, since it's fairly close to debian
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| 18:25 | (and i hear a lot of the ubuntu chatter here and on the mailing lists)
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| 18:32 | <Hyperbyte> Hi, I'm trying to use nbdswap with 12.04
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| 18:32 | Because one machine was crashing, I think it's because it's running out of memory
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| 18:32 | <vagrantc> there's some discussion about that on the mailing list
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| 18:32 | <bieb> vagrantc: thanks
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| 18:32 | <Hyperbyte> Now I want to make sure I've configured nbdswap correctly. In dmesg I see a lot of "nbd9: unknown partition table"
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| 18:33 | <vagrantc> Hyperbyte: that's a false alarm
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| 18:33 | <Hyperbyte> Ah
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| 18:33 | So how can I verify that the nbdswap is working?
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| 18:33 | <vagrantc> Hyperbyte: essentially when ldm starts, there's a hook that tries to verify if there's a new nbd image by creating a connection on nbd9
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| 18:34 | Hyperbyte: ltsp-localapps xterm, and then try the "free" command.
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| 18:34 | Hyperbyte: that should tell you if it's configured
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| 18:34 | <Hyperbyte> It says there's 511 mb swap, but 0 used.
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| 18:34 | But it hasn't ran out of memory yet - working on that as we speak. :)
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| 18:34 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 18:35 | probably wouldn't be hard to write a C program that dumps gunk to memory until you reach a certain amount of swap
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| 18:35 | seems like people really want that confirmation that it's working
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| 18:35 | * vagrantc notes that issues come in waves | |
| 18:35 | <vagrantc> this is the NBD issues week
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| 18:36 | <Hyperbyte> I just started gimp with a 20000x20000 image. :)
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| 18:37 | <blakes> Nothing But Discouraged :(
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| 18:37 | <Blinny> Good gawd.. are you insane?!
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| 18:39 | <Hyperbyte> Blinny, me? :P
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| 18:39 | vagrantc, how can I increase the nbd swap size?
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| 18:40 | <blakes> Should I be worried that ltsp-build-client choked on sun-java6-bin dependency?
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| 18:41 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: are you doing AD authentication?
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| 18:42 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, no?
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| 18:42 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: ok.. for some reason I thought you were.. my bad
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| 18:42 | <Hyperbyte> Not here. I do in another place.
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| 18:42 | Using 389 Directory Server
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| 18:42 | But that's elsewhere
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| 18:43 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: Need some help with Centrify and AD authentication.. I have Centrify installed and I can login to the server with any AD account no problem. But when I try to login from the thin client it fails, and tells me user not found... any ideas where to start looking? (ubuntu 10.10 ltsp) any ideas where to look/test?
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| 18:48 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, /var/log/auth.log
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| 18:50 | <Blinny> Running ltsp-server-standalong 5.2.1-0ubuntu9 on Ubuntu 10.04. After a recent (this week) dist-upgrade on the server bumping NIS to 3.17-31ubuntu0.10.04.3 and subsequent conversion to upstart scripts for ypserv, ypbind, I'm now unable to log in from my thin clients. The LTSP service is an NIS slave & client. SSH logins work OK. Any ideas?
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| 18:51 | <blakes> Hey vagrantc... I rebuilt the client image there was a message that I haven't seen before: Configuration file /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_i386.conf already exists, no action taken.
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| 18:52 | But I also have a [ltsp_i386] section in the nbd-server/config file
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| 18:52 | Seems weird to have two sections (connected by the include directive)
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| 18:53 | ^^^includedir directive)
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| 18:54 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: how can i clear the current auth.log and get a clean one that doesnt include a reboot that I did this morning, or anything that happened over the weekend?
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| 18:57 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: "mv auth.log auth.log.2"?
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| 19:04 | <blakes> Just re-created my thinclient image (ltsp-build-image) ... yes after removing the old chroot. Now, however the /ltsp/i386 contains a vmlinuz symlink that points to vapor! (vmlinuz-2.6.32-41-generic). This sh*t is going from bad to worse.
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| 19:09 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, tail -f /var/log/auth.log (follows new log entries)
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| 19:09 | bieb, then try logging in.
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| 19:14 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: ok.. I know the logs roll over.. I was just gonna start clean.. but I will tail the file and do a pastebin
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| 19:23 | Hyperbyte: pastebin.com/f7Hy4hgg
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| 19:47 | <blakes> When I build the client, it crashes with "Package sun-java6-bin is not available, but is referred to by another package" and fails to complete....
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| 19:48 | so this is not a problem with eula, it;s a problem with the dependentcies. any hints?
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| 20:40 | <blakes> ltsp-build-client completes successfully, but drops thinclient to busybox prompt without errors. Now what? (ubuntu 12.04 lts)
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| 20:41 | <stgraber> did you run /etc/init.d/nbd-server restart?
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| 20:41 | I believe ltsp-build-client tells you to do that just after compressing the chroot
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| 20:48 | <blakes> stgraber, thanks, I'll try that. Am creating another image after tweaking the ltsp-build-client.conf (minimal late packages).
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| 20:51 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, does the home dir for the user exist?
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| 21:22 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: yes for both those users.. but it should create the home dir on the fly.. I thought
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| 21:23 | <blakes> stgraber, resetting the nbd-server had no affect. Any other hints?
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| 21:25 | <stgraber> blakes: both the chroot and the server are 12.04?
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| 21:25 | <blakes> yes. now they are.... although i have my 10.04 chroot tarballed
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| 21:26 | <stgraber> ok. Can you put /etc/nbd-server/config, /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_i386.conf and /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default in a pastebin?
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| 21:26 | !paste
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| 21:26 | <ltsp> stgraber: paste: try !pastebot
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| 21:26 | <stgraber> !pastebot
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| 21:26 | <ltsp> stgraber: pastebot: try !pastebin
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| 21:26 | <stgraber> !pastebin
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| 21:26 | <ltsp> stgraber: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 21:26 | <stgraber> yay :)
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| 21:33 | <blakes> Stgraber: http://pastebin.com/R0Jf6Cfd
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| 21:37 | <stgraber> blakes: your /etc/nbd-server/config looks wrong
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| 21:37 | blakes: try: sudo cp /usr/share/nbd-server/nbd-server.conf.tmpl /etc/nbd-server/config
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| 21:37 | blakes: then: sudo /etc/init.d/nbd-server restart
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| 21:38 | <blakes> I am sure it does ;)
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| 21:39 | <stgraber> you were basically definiting ltsp_i386 twice and one of the two had an incorrect path which would explain why you couldn't connect to it at boot
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| 21:40 | <blakes> hmmm... no definitions in the nbd-server config? Well, the result was the same... just dumped to the busybox prompt without an error.
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| 21:41 | <stgraber> the /config file says that it includes everything from /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/* which includes the ltsp_i386 export
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| 21:41 | anything from nbd in /var/log/syslog?
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| 21:41 | is nbd-server running on the server?
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| 21:43 | <blakes> appears to be running
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| 21:44 | <stgraber> anything from nbd_server in /var/log/sys/log?
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| 21:44 | *syslog
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| 21:45 | <blakes> formally the nbd server was started with inetd. those lines are commented now in inetd.conf
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| 21:45 | checking syslog
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| 21:45 | <stgraber> you should be getting things like that in syslog:
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| 21:45 | Aug 13 18:28:04 ltsp nbd_server[9400]: connect from 172.17.0.51, assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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| 21:45 | and if not, hopefully some kind of error
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| 21:47 | <blakes> grep nbd_server /var/log/syslog returns nothing. lots of dnsmasq info though.
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| 21:47 | <stgraber> ok
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| 21:48 | in the initramfs prompt, run:
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| 21:48 | sh -x /scripts/local-top/nbd
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| 21:48 | and look for error messages in there
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| 21:49 | <blakes> can't open /local-top
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| 21:50 | whoopa
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| 21:51 | the initramfs command yields that there is "insufficient information to load nbd" and it looks like the Port= section is missing.
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| 21:52 | and nbd-device
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| 21:53 | <stgraber> can you pastebin your dhcp configuration (/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf probably)?
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| 21:57 | <blakes> so with dnsmasq (at least as written in the instructions) the dnsmasq replaces the dhcp server, thereby making the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf irrelevant. So I'll pastebin the dnsmasq config?
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| 21:58 | stgraber: http://pastebin.com/U4q0BwYB
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| 22:02 | <stgraber> blakes: comment the rootpath line
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| 22:02 | (line 25)
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| 22:03 | the rest might be fine, I don't usually use dnsmasq, so can't be sure
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| 22:03 | try with line 25 commented and restart dnsmasq, that might be enough
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| 22:05 | <blakes> trying again while looking through http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2011-11-02 as "lifeboy" was having a similar problem
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| 22:06 | your change had no affect. I think I need a nbd-device name
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| 22:07 | <stgraber> you probably want to reboot the thin client instead of just re-executing /scripts/local-top/nbd as from what you pasted earlier it doesn't seem to be getting the whole of the initramfs environment
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| 22:14 | <blakes> rebooted, then sh -x /scripts/local-top/nbd: Failure: Insufficient information to set up nbd, quitting (nbdroot=:ltsp_i386, host=192.168.0.254, name=ltsp_i386, port=,nbd-device=)
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| 22:15 | So I added port=to the nbd-config.d file and it gave me an error upon restart
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| 22:22 | <blakes> what's your feeling about editing the /etc/nbd_client file in the chroot?
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| 23:53 | <vagrantc> stgraber: glad to see the minimal diff with ltsp sources!
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