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Channel log from 24 February 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:57 | <a5benwillis> .
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| 07:57 | Good Morning. When I connect to SSH and enter my password the "prompt" is never displayed. It just sits there on the client side. When I check the auth.log on the server I see that the login was authenticated successfully. The last thing in the log is "do_pam_account: called".
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| 07:58 | .
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| 07:58 | Anyone have an idea where to look?
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| 13:16 | <JREwing> hello, may I ask here for help? for two days Iam fighting with configuration of LTSP client
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| 13:16 | <jammcq> sure, go ahead and ask your question
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| 13:18 | <JREwing> thanks.. Iam near of fully functional client, but i have problem with Keybord.. It works fine in command line, but if start X session, keyboard become inactive
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| 13:18 | <jammcq> how is your mouse connected ?
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| 13:18 | <JREwing> my mouse and keyboard is USB
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| 13:18 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 13:18 | what do you have in lts.conf ?
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| 13:19 | <JREwing> [Default]
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| 13:19 | SERVER=192.168.0.150
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| 13:19 | XF86CONFIG_FILE=/etc/xorg.conf
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| 13:19 | XSERVER=vesa
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| 13:19 | X_MODE_0=1024x768
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| 13:19 | X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
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| 13:19 | X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL="ExplorerPS/2"
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| 13:19 | X_MOUSE_DEVICE="/dev/input/mice"
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| 13:19 | X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION=400
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| 13:19 | <mistik1> wow
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| 13:19 | <JREwing> X_MOUSE_BUTTONS=3
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| 13:19 | USE_XFS=N
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| 13:19 | SCREEN_01= startx
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| 13:19 | SCREEN_02= shell
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| 13:19 | SOUND=N
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| 13:19 | USE_NFS_SWAP=Y
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| 13:19 | SWAP_SERVER=192.168.0.150
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| 13:19 | NFS_SWAPDIR=/opt/ltsp/swap
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| 13:19 | RUNLEVEL=5
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| 13:19 | XKBMODEL="pc105"
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| 13:19 | XKBLAYOUT="us"
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| 13:19 | <jammcq> why do you have a special XF86CONFIG_FILE ?
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| 13:20 | <jammcq> why do you have a special XF86CONFIG_FILE ?
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| 13:20 | <JREwing> I had to make my own xorg.conf because my monitor can use much better resolution then my graphic card can have..
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| 13:21 | it is full xorg.conf
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| 13:21 | <jammcq> ok, do you realize that when you use a xorg.conf file, it completely ignores all other X settings in lts.conf ?
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| 13:21 | there's no point in saying things like : X_MOUSE_DEVICE="/dev/input/mice"
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| 13:21 | <JREwing> even mouse and keyboard settings?
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| 13:22 | <mistik1> yes
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| 13:22 | <JREwing> I thought only graphic is override?
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| 13:22 | <jammcq> yes, all those X_ settings are used to construct a xorg config file during boot up. By you specifying your own config file
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| 13:22 | you are responsible for ALL things related to X
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| 13:22 | keyboard and mouse are all part of the Xorg.conf file
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| 13:23 | so, if your keyboard isn't working, maybe you've not defined a keyboard section in your xorg.conf file
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| 13:23 | what kind of video card do you have?
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| 13:23 | <JREwing> so there are two solutions, I need to force an autodetect to use less resolution or find mistake in xorg.conf
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| 13:24 | <jammcq> what resolution do you want?
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| 13:24 | <JREwing> I use vesa driver, I dond know the type of card because I have thinclient box with AMD geoder processor
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| 13:24 | <jammcq> what resolution do you want?
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| 13:24 | <JREwing> I want 1024x768
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| 13:24 | <jammcq> that's the default
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| 13:25 | <JREwing> if i place X_MODE_0 to lts.conf, it was ignored
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| 13:25 | <jammcq> you didn't get 1024x768 before trying your own xorg.conf ?
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| 13:25 | it's ignored now, because you have a XF86CONFIG_FILE entry
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| 13:25 | <JREwing> still use max resolution ( the monitor resolution is 1600x1200 for max )
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| 13:26 | <jammcq> and for geode, you probably don't want 'vesa', you probably want 'nsc'
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| 13:27 | <JREwing> that was the reason of my xorg.conf file, I've try it without, but have 1600x1200 screen
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| 13:27 | <jammcq> so try without, and set XSERVER = nsc
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| 13:27 | and X_MODE_0 = 1024x768
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| 13:27 | <JREwing> so, I'll try
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| 13:27 | <jammcq> so ok :)
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| 13:28 | btw, i've NEVER seen a geode do better than 1280x1024
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| 13:28 | <JREwing> autodetect give me a vesa driver
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| 13:28 | yes, this is the max resolution, but monitor can more
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| 13:28 | <jammcq> try 'nsc' instead of 'vesa'
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| 13:30 | <JREwing> by the way, this thin client si wonderful thing.. it need only 10W for work
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| 13:35 | so, screen is now usable, but keyboard is still dead :-/
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| 13:36 | <jammcq> take out those 'XKB...' lines. English is the default for ltsp
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| 13:43 | <JREwing> :-(
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| 13:51 | <JREwing> still the same
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| 14:43 | <a5benwillis> hi people
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| 16:21 | <erdinc> hi everyoner
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| 16:50 | <zald> hi how do i customize all the application running on ltsp client?
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| 18:22 | <a5benwillis> Anybody around
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| 18:23 | <JREwing> yep
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| 18:23 | <a5benwillis> Still looking for help with this nss, pam, ssh issue
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| 18:30 | <a5benwillis> About to post a questino to who ever may be listening! LOL
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| 18:30 | .
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| 18:30 | I need help with an NSS, PAM, NCP with SSH issue. Im using an NSS/NCP module in my nsswitch.conf file to do a user lookup on an NDS server.
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| 18:30 | When I try to log in via SSH the user is found with the NSS module, authenticated via an NCP so module but I still can't log on.
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| 18:30 | .
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| 18:30 | I see in the /var/auth.log file that the user is successfully authenticated.
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| 18:30 | .
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| 18:30 | The last message I get in my auth.log is
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| 18:30 | -ssd[6995]: debug1: do_pam_account: called
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| 18:30 | .
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| 18:30 | When this happens the ssh client side accepts the password and just sits there.
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| 18:30 | .
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| 18:30 | Eventually another error is logged in auth.log
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| 18:31 | -Fatal: Timeout before authentication for 127.0.0.1
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| 19:27 | <freemindx> jammcq are you there?
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| 20:03 | <msaul> Is there anyone that can walk me thru LDA?
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| 20:03 | I'm running Edubuntu 6.10
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| 20:04 | <msaul> Hey Jim, how are you?
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| 20:04 | <jammcq> hey msaul
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| 20:04 | <msaul> You got to come up to TO again!
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| 20:04 | <jammcq> yeah
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| 20:04 | <msaul> It's been a while!
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| 20:04 | <jammcq> in fact, I'll be in TO on thursday
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| 20:05 | <msaul> What are you doing?
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| 20:05 | Can you visit Seneca?
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| 20:05 | <jammcq> scotty and I are getting together for a small hack-fest
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| 20:05 | <msaul> cool
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| 20:05 | I would like to show you sometime what
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| 20:05 | ltsp has done around TO
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| 20:05 | <jammcq> turns out Toronto is a good location. I can drive there easily, and scott can fly there easily
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| 20:05 | we'll be pretty busy
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| 20:05 | <msaul> Next Time?
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| 20:06 | <jammcq> sure
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| 20:06 | we should plan on it
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| 20:06 | <msaul> I have set up lab in TO
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| 20:06 | <jammcq> cool
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| 20:06 | <msaul> Students are learning Java
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| 20:06 | on their machines
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| 20:06 | I have Dr. Java (a learning tool on the system)
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| 20:06 | <jammcq> heh, Java, the COBOL of the 90's
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| 20:06 | <msaul> John Selmys is involved with 2-3 other highschools
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| 20:07 | I'm setting up LTSP for a church in Orangeville
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| 20:07 | I can take pictures and send to you if you wish
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| 20:07 | It is picking up here a lot!
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| 20:07 | <jammcq> better, I'd like you to post a story on the SuccessStories page on our wiki
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| 20:07 | <msaul> Will Do
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| 20:07 | <jammcq> it's picking up in lots of places
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| 20:07 | just heard about stuff going on in South Africa
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| 20:08 | <msaul> Can't keep a good idea down
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| 20:08 | cool
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| 20:08 | Are you good at troubleshooting LDA?
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| 20:08 | <jammcq> well, I know how to point you to the troubleshooting guide
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| 20:08 | <msaul> I got a Pentium III with a Pentium IV server running Edubuntu 6.10
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| 20:08 | <jammcq> but are you using LTSP-4.2 or are you using the LTSP that comes with Edubuntu ?
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| 20:09 | <msaul> The LTSP that comes with Edubuntu
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| 20:09 | Sound is perfect
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| 20:09 | I read the wiki
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| 20:09 | <jammcq> umm, seems like its just a matter of setting an option in lts.conf
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| 20:09 | but i'm not sure
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| 20:09 | <msaul> I did add the two lines
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| 20:09 | <vagrantc> and adding a user to the fuse group
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| 20:09 | <jammcq> that's what next weekend is for, for me and scotty to get up to speed with the Ubuntu and Debian work
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| 20:10 | <vagrantc> jammcq: i thought thats what the september shindig was for :P
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| 20:10 | <msaul> LOCAL_DEVICE_01= and LOCAL_DEVICE_02= etc
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| 20:10 | <jammcq> vagrantc: yeah, some how, I've been too busy lately, to keep up with it
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| 20:10 | <msaul> I also set HOTPLUG = Y
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| 20:11 | <jammcq> msaul: I think those are all OLD settings
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| 20:11 | vagrantc: do you know what to set in lts.conf ?
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| 20:11 | <vagrantc> LOCALDEV=True
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| 20:11 | <msaul> OK, that's it?
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| 20:11 | <vagrantc> think so
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| 20:12 | <msaul> Do I bother with the LDA scripts?
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| 20:12 | <jammcq> scripts ?
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| 20:12 | <msaul> In the wiki
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| 20:12 | <jammcq> that's old stuff
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| 20:12 | pre LTSP-4.2 stuff
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| 20:13 | <msaul> So I take that out and just use that setting you just gave?
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| 20:13 | in lts.conf
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| 20:13 | <jammcq> ummm
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| 20:13 | I think so. I'm pretty sure that ogra already included everything you need
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| 20:13 | <msaul> That makes sense - a colleage said
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| 20:13 | <vagrantc> msaul: and add your users to the fuse group ... theres a page somewhere on the ubuntu wikis about it
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| 20:14 | <msaul> OK - will do
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| 20:14 | Thanks for the help...
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| 20:14 | I will try those excellent suggestions
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| 20:14 | Jim
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| 20:14 | Lets discuss to get you guys up to TO in October
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| 20:14 | That conference is getting really big now
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| 20:14 | It goes over 2 - 3 days
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| 20:14 | <a5benwillis> whats the fuse group????
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> msaul: what's the date ?
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| 20:15 | <msaul> That conference is really taking on a life of its own
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| 20:15 | I'll get back to that and e-mail you.
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| 20:15 | asap
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| 20:15 | <vagrantc> a5benwillis: its a unix group that, at least on debian and ubuntu, provides access to use fuse filesystems.
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| 20:15 | a5benwillis: and ltspfs is a fuse filesystem
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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| 20:15 | <msaul> Thanks - I wll bookmark that
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| 20:16 | Got it.
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| 20:16 | I hear Edubuntu is coming out with 7.-- in April
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| 20:17 | <jammcq> 7 ?
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| 20:17 | <msaul> Bad memory - just let me check my e-mail for a sec
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| 20:17 | <vagrantc> that would be 7.04 ... as it's (200)7.04(april)
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| 20:17 | <jammcq> yeah
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| 20:18 | <msaul> yes 7.04
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| 20:18 | John Selmys was just talking about that...
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| 20:18 | well thanks for that great help
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| 20:19 | Perhaps I can give you a tour of Orangeville when you come up
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| 20:19 | I will get back to you on the dates.
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| 20:19 | You visit and your presentation was very well received
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| 20:19 | In fact, it was at the
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| 20:20 | point that the conference
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| 20:20 | started to really take-off!
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| 20:20 | <jammcq> cool
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| 20:20 | <msaul> I remember you handing out the
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| 20:20 | device to let people see it and
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| 20:20 | <jammcq> toronto is easy to get to, but october is a pretty busy time for me
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| 20:20 | <msaul> joked, "don't let that thing go out the door!"
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| 20:20 | I'll get a firm date
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| 20:21 | <jammcq> k
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| 20:21 | <msaul> all the best - have a great night!
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| 20:21 | <jammcq> thanks, you too
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| 20:21 | <msaul> l8r
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| 21:30 | <andersonpaul2005> hello, is anyone here?
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| 21:39 | <a5benwillis> i am, kinda
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| 21:39 | <andersonpaul2005> hi there, i was wondering if anyone could help with an x11 problem
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| 21:49 | <a5benwillis> hiya mistik1
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| 21:49 | mistik1: Hi
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| 21:50 | andersonpaul2005: Whats the problem exactly?
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| 21:51 | <andersonpaul2005> sorry, i have k12ltsp version 6 installed, x11 was working fine
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| 21:52 | then I did something with the display settings, and I hosed my vnc connection to the server
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| 21:53 | it just comes up with an X, and whole screen of little x's
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| 21:53 | no login box,
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| 21:53 | <jammcq> is the screen gray
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| 21:53 | <Bhaskar> hello everybody, any success story of deployment of LTSP in any School, college
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| 21:54 | <jammcq> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen
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| 21:54 | Bhaskar: tons of success stories
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| 21:54 | go visit the SuccessStories page on the wiki:
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| 21:54 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/SuccessStories
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| 21:54 | <a5benwillis> jammcq: I was looking for that link for him :)
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| 21:54 | the grayscreen one
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| 21:54 | <jammcq> hmm, something happened to our SuccessStories page
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| 21:54 | <andersonpaul2005> thanks, i will check it out
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| 21:54 | <jammcq> we had about 50 stories, now it's about 6
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| 21:55 | <andersonpaul2005> I am working on a school success story, if I can ever get it all figured out!
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| 21:56 | Morris Brandon elementary is a good success story
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| 21:56 | <Bhaskar> andersonpaul2005, in which school
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| 21:56 | <andersonpaul2005> I am in Hayward, Wisconsin
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| 21:58 | <Bhaskar> andersonpaul2005, how many client in that server
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| 21:58 | andersonpaul2005, can u give me hardware config of server
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| 22:00 | <andersonpaul2005> I am using an hp dc5100, 2GB ram, (2 year old computer) for my demo server
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| 22:00 | <Bhaskar> HD,processor?
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| 22:01 | <andersonpaul2005> 200 GB Hd, I think 2GHz processor?
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| 22:02 | <jammcq> ok, SuccessStories page is fixed
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| 22:02 | some knucklehead removed most of the stories when they posted their own
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| 22:02 | <andersonpaul2005> just want to demo the unit with 5 clients or so, it is working fine booting with pxe, but not when trying to use vnc
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| 22:03 | thats when I get the gray screen
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| 22:04 | <a5benwillis> Im running a dual xeon 3.6ghz, 6gb ram
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| 22:05 | but I plan to have multiple ltsp's running on that hardware. IF I ever get this authentication problem fixed...
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| 22:07 | <jammcq> ok, i'm heading to bed. G'night everyone
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| 22:15 | <a5benwillis> night
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| 22:20 | <vagrantc> !grayscreen
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| 22:20 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "grayscreen" is No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen#GDM
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| 22:31 | <andersonpaul2005> I only get the gray screen when trying to connect to the server with vnc? would this still apply?
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| 22:31 | <vagrantc> hmmm...
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| 22:32 | depends on how vnc is starting its session ...
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| 22:33 | <andersonpaul2005> it was working with the default settings, then I changed something in ithe Display (on server) and then it quit working
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| 22:34 | all i did when it was working, is used vnc, put in address and login screen came up?
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| 22:36 | <vagrantc> in my limited experience with vnc, you have to start a session, which you then can connect/disconnect to ...
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| 22:57 | <andersonpaul2005> i think I will try to install to another drive and see if I can figure what files got changed
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