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Channel log from 10 February 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:02 | <ltspuser_63> hi
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| 01:02 | * vagrantc waves to ltspuser_63 | |
| 01:02 | <ltspuser_63> my name is Wiliam live im Brazil
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| 01:02 | <vagrantc> welcome
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| 01:03 | <ltspuser_63> I need a help for configuration client ltsp in virtual machine
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| 01:03 | <jammcq> hello wiliam
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| 01:03 | <ltspuser_63> hi Jammcq
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| 01:03 | <jammcq> where in brazil ?
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| 01:04 | <ltspuser_63> Bauru São Paulo
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| 01:05 | i make a configuration how docs
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| 01:06 | <jammcq> ltspuser_63: i've been to brazil many times
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| 01:06 | <ltspuser_63> but when I start the client is on the screen
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| 01:07 | legal. seja sempre bem vindo
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| 01:07 | cool. is always welcome
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| 01:07 | initramfs
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| 01:09 | I did exactly as described in how to
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| 01:09 | someone has a tip
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| 01:11 | ?
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| 01:12 | <vagrantc> which howto?
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| 06:48 | <Enslaver> I might just be SOL for getting nbd going on el6, RH is moving towards iscsi and completely removed nbd support from their kernels
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| 06:48 | its not even a module by default
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| 07:11 | <prashant_123456> cannot login using username and password no response from server session restarting
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| 07:11 | any help from anyone
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| 07:15 | <alkisg> !sshkeys
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| 07:15 | <ltsp> sshkeys: If you changed your LTSP server IP on Ubuntu, your clients will be unable to login. To fix this, you need to run: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 07:17 | <prashant_123456> ltsp, did that many many times but no luck loging in but i can login using root hitting ctrl+alt+f1
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| 07:17 | alkisg,
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| 07:18 | <alkisg> prashant_123456: ok then try this command after logging in as root locally:
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| 07:18 | ssh username@server
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| 07:18 | Replace username with an existing user, leave "server" as it is, don't replace it with anything
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| 07:19 | <prashant_123456> alkisg, you mean on server itself i have to run ssh usrname@server ?
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| 07:19 | <alkisg> No, from vt1 on the client after you pressed alt+ctrl+f1
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| 07:20 | <prashant_123456> ak
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| 07:20 | ok alkisg
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| 07:21 | alkisg, yes now i can do ssh from vt1
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| 07:21 | alkisg, now what to do next
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| 07:21 | <alkisg> What command did you use, exactly?
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| 07:22 | <prashant_123456> ssh a@server
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| 07:22 | a is my username
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| 07:22 | <alkisg> And did you get any warnings about "trusting server xxx" etc?
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| 07:22 | <prashant_123456> no i did not
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| 07:23 | <alkisg> OK, do these:
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| 07:23 | server: sudo tail -F /var/log/auth.log
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| 07:23 | client: tail -F /var/log/ldm.log
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| 07:23 | client: alt+ctrl+f7, try to login as "a"
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| 07:23 | server: check for new output of the tail command
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| 07:23 | client: alt+ctrl+f1, check for new output of the tail command
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| 07:26 | <prashant_123456> on client i get error cannot open ldm.log
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| 07:26 | <alkisg> It might be called /var/log/ldm
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| 07:27 | Btw which linux distro/version are you using?
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| 07:27 | <prashant_123456> is it lightdm
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| 07:27 | ubuntu 12.04 lts
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| 07:28 | <alkisg> No, we don't want lightdm
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| 07:28 | LTSP uses ldm instead of lightdm
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| 07:28 | If you're using lightdm, then that's why you cannot login
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| 07:28 | <prashant_123456> so no ldm here
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| 07:28 | so what to do
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| 07:28 | <alkisg> Are you using a thin chroot or a fat chroot?
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| 07:28 | How did you build your chroot?
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| 07:28 | <prashant_123456> build client
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| 07:29 | <alkisg> What's the output of this command on the server? ls -lha /opt/ltsp/images
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| 07:29 | Btw, on the client, you should have /var/log/ldm.log
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| 07:29 | * alkisg just checked the filename | |
| 07:30 | <prashant_123456> in opt/ltsp/images there is i386.img file
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| 07:30 | <alkisg> What size?
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| 07:31 | <prashant_123456> wait pls
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| 07:32 | yes now i can tail -F /var/log/ldm.log
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| 07:33 | after alt ctrl f7 cannot login
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| 07:33 | wait pls
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| 07:41 | <prashant_123456> cannot fine /opt/ltsp
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| 07:42 | alkisg, no power here see u later
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| 14:19 | <prashant_123456> cannot login
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| 14:20 | username and password error while logging in
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| 14:20 | anyone to help
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| 14:29 | ok now i can log in thanks for the help
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| 14:47 | <Enslaver> Anyone awake? I could use a hand one the one major issue i have left, I finally got nfs working with unionfs so i have a cow rw /, Also got NBD cow working and without cow using unionfs. Still having that X issue though
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| 14:47 | Feb 3 21:06:10 localhost kernel: ldm[1896]: segfault at 10 ip 0000000000403894 sp 00007fffb91955a0 error 4 in ldm[400000+7000]
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| 15:47 | <markit> in lts.conf, instead of [macaddress], may I also put [hostname] with some special syntax? like ['ltsp102'] or whatever?
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| 15:48 | <alkisg> [ltsp102]
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| 15:49 | <markit> alkisg: seems not to wokr
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| 15:49 | [00:23:5a:e4:2e:a7]
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| 15:49 | LDM_USERNAME=paola
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| 15:49 | works
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| 15:49 | and I see hostname is ltsp101
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| 15:49 | then I edit it and put
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| 15:49 | [ltsp101]
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| 15:49 | reboot the fat client
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| 15:49 | and does not autologin anymore
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| 15:49 | with that user
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| 15:50 | it takes ltsp101 as user
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| 15:50 | <alkisg> How do you ensure that the client gets the ltsp101 hostname?
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| 15:50 | $ cat /tmp/lts.conf
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| 15:50 | [alkis]
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| 15:50 | VAR=VALUE
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| 15:50 | $ getltscfg -a -c /tmp/lts.conf
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| 15:50 | VAR="VALUE"
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| 15:50 | export VAR
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| 15:50 | <knipwim> you have to refer to alkis with LIKE
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| 15:50 | <alkisg> alkis is my hostname
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| 15:51 | <knipwim> http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Configuration#LIKE
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| 15:51 | <markit> well, I set dhcp to provide that IP and in /etc/hosts I've IP - hostname
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| 15:52 | knipwim: that's confusing... usually I used [name] just to provide "templates" of config
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| 15:52 | but I've read that instead of [mac] you can use [hostname]
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| 15:52 | but seems not to work
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| 15:52 | <alkisg> It works fine here
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| 15:53 | markit: on the client, run `hostname`, and then getltscfg -a
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| 15:53 | <markit> ok
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| 15:53 | <alkisg> And the paste /etc/lts.conf from the client to pastebin
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| 15:56 | <markit> hostname is ltsp101
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| 15:56 | getltscfg -a is permission denied
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| 15:58 | I try with LDM_DEBUG_TERMINAL=True
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| 15:59 | <alkisg> markit: as root
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| 15:59 | !screen_02
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| 15:59 | <ltsp> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 16:05 | <markit> alkisg: pastebin.com/8enMGa9m
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| 16:05 | <alkisg> markit: cat /etc/lts.conf on the client
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| 16:05 | <markit> ops, sigh, I forgot
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| 16:07 | alkisg: http://pastebin.com/D6A24PsD
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| 16:07 | I've commented out the last part
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| 16:08 | if I uncomment using the mac address, it works
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| 16:08 | if I comment the mac and use the [ltsp101], it does not
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| 16:10 | <alkisg> markit: vi /etc/lts.conf
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| 16:10 | uncomment the last lines except for the mac line
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| 16:10 | and run getltscfg -a again
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| 16:10 | It works fine here
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| 16:13 | <markit> alkisg: without reboot, just edited /etc/lts.conf in the fat client and issued getlgscfg... http://pastebin.com/aFyzS58f
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| 16:13 | <alkisg> Right
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| 16:14 | So edit your server lts.conf and reboot, and THEN let's see if/why it doesn't work
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| 16:14 | It _is_ possible that the hostname is applied too late
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| 16:14 | I.e. `getltscfg -a` gets run before the hostname is set
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| 16:15 | Then you'd need to file a bug report
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| 16:16 | <markit> alkisg: wondering why works there and not here, I'm using the greek repo
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| 16:16 | <alkisg> markit: but it did work for you
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| 16:17 | (06:13:40 μμ) markit: alkisg: without reboot, just edited /etc/lts.conf in the fat client and issued getlgscfg... http://pastebin.com/aFyzS58f
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| 16:17 | I see paola there
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| 16:18 | <markit> yes, but with mac it autologins with "paola" user, with [ltsp101] not, so does not work (half working = no working ;P)
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| 16:18 | <alkisg> (06:14:33 μμ) alkisg: It _is_ possible that the hostname is applied too late
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| 16:18 | (06:14:51 μμ) alkisg: I.e. `getltscfg -a` gets run before the hostname is set
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| 16:18 | (06:15:16 μμ) alkisg: Then you'd need to file a bug report
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| 16:18 | <markit> alkisg: lol, I understand, but I use isc-dhcp and /etc/hosts, how can it be that works there and not here?
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> What I'm saying is that there's a bug in ltsp
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| 16:19 | So that getltscfg -a run fine, but init-ltsp.d uses it at the wrong time
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| 16:19 | And that's why it "half works"
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| 16:19 | <markit> I see, but if we are using the same ltsp version, how can it be that is affecting only me?
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| 16:20 | mmm maybe I'm not using your ltsp, let me check
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| 16:20 | <alkisg> Ah, I didn't mean that using hostnames in lts.conf works here. I meant that it works with getltscfg.
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| 16:20 | <markit> 5.4.3-1+r2393+p1146~precise1 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ts.sch.gr/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
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| 16:20 | <alkisg> I.e. that it's supported, that it _used_ to work in previous versions, that getltscfg properly runs it...
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| 16:20 | <markit> AH, ok :))))
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| 16:20 | <alkisg> ...and you're saying that in the end, it's not working, so I'm suspecting a problem in init-ltsp.d
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| 16:21 | <markit> ok, let's test again then, hold on
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| 16:26 | <Enslaver> http://postimage.org/image/8cxxp0uxh/ <-- getting that when trying to use ldm
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| 16:26 | <markit> LDM_DEBUG_TERMINAL=True makes me log as root only? better enable SCREEN_02=shell ?
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| 16:28 | alkisg: I see LDM_USERNAME=paola, but my user is ltsp101
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| 16:28 | $ who
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| 16:28 | and also from the prompt
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| 16:29 | while if I use the mac, I'm "paola"
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| 16:30 | <alkisg> markit: the question isn't if it works for you, you already said that it doesn't work
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| 16:30 | The question is if getltscfg -a returns the expected results
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| 16:31 | <markit> if expected results are LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD, it does
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| 16:33 | <alkisg> So, `getltscfg -a` works as expected, but the LTSP boot process doesn't get these values under account
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| 16:33 | That's because when `getltscfg -a` is ran, hostname isn't yet set
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| 16:33 | And that's the bug you need to report...
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| 16:33 | I can propose a fix in a couple of hours if you want to test, currently /me is a bit busy...
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| 16:36 | <markit> alkisg: not urgent at all, don't worry and thanks a lot for the help, I report the but in a hour time
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| 18:26 | <alkisg> markit: are you in a place to test stuff?
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| 18:27 | $CHROOT/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config.d/01-getltscfg ==> do the following changes:
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| 18:27 | eval $(getltscfg ${HOSTNAME:+-n $HOSTNAME} -a 2>/dev/null) || true
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| 18:27 | eval $(getltscfg ${HOSTNAME:+-n $HOSTNAME} -a 2>/dev/null|grep -v export >> ${ltsp_config_env}) || true
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| 18:27 | That should tell getltscfg to use the hostname provided by DHCP even if it's not set as the system hostname yet
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| 18:29 | <vagrantc> whee.
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| 19:22 | <Enslaver> Can someone explain this code in screen-x-common: TTY=${TTY#/dev/tty}
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| 19:22 | DISPLAY=":$TTY"
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| 19:28 | i kinda get that its supposed to pick up the $DISPLAY from the tty number, i just don't get how bash is translating that to just a number.
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| 19:30 | <alkisg> Enslaver: x=abc; echo ${x#a}
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| 19:30 | bc
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| 19:30 | Do you mean that?
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| 19:31 | # removes some starting pattern, % some ending pattern etc
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| 19:31 | man bash and search for ##
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| 19:31 | <Enslaver> yeah i know the posix substitutions but I'm trying to figure out why its picking up /dev/pts/1 as my $DISPLAY
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| 19:31 | <alkisg> Ah, bad code, it won't run from inside xterm
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| 19:32 | <Enslaver> should i append a check to search for pts in the string?
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| 19:35 | <alkisg> I don't think that would work... isn't your DISPLAY == :7 ?
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| 19:35 | Or is it :0 ?
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| 19:36 | <Enslaver> Well that was the reason X wasn't starting
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| 19:36 | DISPLAY=/dev/pts/7
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| 19:38 | we already know SCREEN_NUM, would it be safe to do DISPLAY=":$SCREEN_NUM" ?
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| 19:39 | <alkisg> Sounds saner to me
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| 19:40 | Or at least, if SCREEN_NUM isn't set, fall back to using tty
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| 19:41 | Also, this seems safer: TTY=${TTY##*[!0-9]}
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| 19:41 | (if SCREEN_NUM isn't set)
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| 19:42 | <Enslaver> yah thats a good idea
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| 19:45 | TTY=$(tty)
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| 19:45 | if [[ -n "$SCREEN_NUM" ]]; then
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| 19:45 | TTY=${TTY##*[!0-9]}
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| 19:45 | DISPLAY=":$TTY"
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| 19:45 | elif [ -n "$DISPLAY" ]; then
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| 19:45 | DISPLAY=":$SCREEN_NUM"
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| 19:45 | fi
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| 19:45 | something like that?
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| 19:45 | i'll move the 2nd TTY part up under the first TTY
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| 19:48 | <markit> alkisg: I've some minute to test stuff, you still there?
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| 19:49 | alkisg: can't getltscfg get hostname from a reverse IP lookup instead?
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| 19:49 | because if I set static IP, in isc-dhcp I have to put "host hostname" that is superseeded by the one in /etc/hosts
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| 19:50 | <alkisg> markit: no, not all people have all their clients declared into dns
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| 19:50 | <markit> this way I can have a hostname there that is different than the other in /etc/hosts
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| 19:50 | alkisg: isn't populate /etc/hosts mandatory?
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| 19:50 | <alkisg> Are you talking about /etc/hostname?
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| 19:50 | <markit> (with ip ltspxyz)
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| 19:50 | <alkisg> No, /etc/hosts doesn't contain any ltspxyz declarations by default
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| 19:50 | <Enslaver> why not in-addr.arpa for reverse hostnames?
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| 19:51 | <markit> no, server /etc/hosts, I've a script that loops and populates with ipxyz - ltspxyz
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| 19:51 | <alkisg> You have such a script, others don't
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| 19:51 | And even if you do, that doesn't mean that you have a dns server installed
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| 19:51 | <markit> alkisg: I know is not there by default, but I thought was NECESSARY to have things works smootly
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| 19:51 | <alkisg> That answers client requests
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| 19:51 | <markit> true
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| 19:52 | <alkisg> It's not necessary to have a dns server, no
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| 19:52 | <markit> ok, and is it necessary to have /etc/hosts with IP - ltsxyz?
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| 19:52 | <vagrantc> markit: that was recommended with old versions of LTSP
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| 19:52 | <markit> AH, thanks vagrantc
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| 19:52 | and is not needed anymore? I mean "works more or less" or "works really fine" without them?
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| 19:52 | <vagrantc> i.e. before 2006?
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| 19:53 | markit: i don't use them at all...
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| 19:53 | <markit> vagrantc: lol, I started ltsp experiments a long long time ago
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| 19:53 | but is just with my envolvement with schools that I've real installations
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| 19:53 | <alkisg> Anyways that's server-side, while getltscfg is client side
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| 19:53 | <Enslaver> (ldmgtkgreet:21703): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_box_pack: assertion `child->parent == NULL' failed
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| 19:53 | <markit> (so 2 years ago)
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| 19:53 | <Enslaver> still getting that :/
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| 19:54 | <markit> alkisg: yes, was not to argue with you, but I want to reduce "critical point" and feared /etc/hosts and dhcp hostname being out of sync
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| 19:54 | vagrantc: so without /etc/host being populated, where does ltsp take the hostname to be "injected" in client /etc/hosts?
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| 19:55 | * alkisg would like all of that to just go in lts.conf, and to have an "ltsp-apply-lts-conf" script that generates all other configuration, like dhcp, pxelinux and the rest | |
| 19:55 | <markit> (/etc/hsots on the server)
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| 19:55 | alkisg: that would be great indeed
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| 19:55 | <alkisg> markit: from dhcp, or from dns, or from lts.conf, or from the IP
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| 19:55 | <vagrantc> markit: it generates it based on ip address or mac address
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| 19:56 | and what alkisg said
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| 19:56 | <alkisg> So if the ip is 1.2.3.4, the hostname would be ltsp4
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| 19:56 | <markit> ah, so "ltsp" part is a prefix in the code?
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| 19:56 | <alkisg> Yeah, HOSTNAME_BASE or something
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| 19:56 | <vagrantc> it doesn't matter for most things...
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| 19:56 | <markit> I see, thanks a lot
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| 19:56 | ok, let's change chroot
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| 19:57 | * vagrantc always uses mac address in lts.conf | |
| 19:57 | <vagrantc> it's the only thing that's not likely to change
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| 19:57 | <alkisg> markit: yeah why don't you put the hostname in lts.conf instead of in dhcp?
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| 19:57 | [mac:address]
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| 19:57 | HOSTNAME=xxx
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| 19:58 | <markit> isn't static IP in isc-dhcp needing a host hostname {} section?
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| 19:58 | <alkisg> Ah you need a static IP as well? Why so?
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| 19:59 | <markit> alkisg: to be sincere, is not me but the "friend" I'm helping... he wants to have "fix" clients, PC number 1 will have autologin with user1 etc
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| 19:59 | <alkisg> Sure, we do that here too
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| 19:59 | With the router giving dynamic IP addresses
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| 19:59 | And lts.conf sends the hostnames, LDM_USERNAME etc etc
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| 20:00 | Why would he need static IP addresses for that?
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| 20:00 | <markit> yep, maybe much smarter, probably is my misunderstanding of the /etc/hosts stuff that put me on the wrong track
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| 20:00 | s/maybe/for sure
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| 20:00 | * vagrantc uses group { host foo { hardware ethernet mac:add:ress; }; } | |
| 20:00 | <vagrantc> in dhcpd.conf
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| 20:01 | if you needed to ssh to the client that user1 is on, you might want static ips
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| 20:01 | <markit> vagrantc: do you mind give me a pastebin example of your settings? I'm not a isc-dhcp guru
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| 20:04 | <vagrantc> markit: slightly edited, but it should show some of the concepts: http://paste.debian.net/233195/
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| 20:05 | * alkisg stopped using ssh to the clients since epoptes' "open terminal" function was implemented... | |
| 20:05 | * vagrantc cheers | |
| 20:05 | <vagrantc> alkisg: speaking of which, how's 0.5.6-1 holding up?
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| 20:06 | <alkisg> It's fine, no major problems, although Phantomas is preparing a new one with many goodies there :)
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| 20:06 | <vagrantc> i haven't been testing it in wheezy recently.
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| 20:06 | <Enslaver> Crap i found the code, its in LDM, it's not gonna work for me in x86_64 :(
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| 20:07 | <vagrantc> Enslaver: what's different with your x86_64 and Debian's (other than Debian calls it amd64)?
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| 20:07 | Enslaver: and we do have a few connections with ldm upstream... :)
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| 20:07 | <Enslaver> i noticed, the LDM package is actually checking for the K12LINUX flag to be set
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| 20:08 | I'm about to compile it with that flag enabled, wonder if that will make it worse or better
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| 20:08 | <vagrantc> oh, i think that's for the theme?
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| 20:08 | <Enslaver> yeah it looks like it, but the theme is broken as well
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| 20:09 | But that would make sense that was the issue, i have no C coding experience
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| 20:09 | <vagrantc> wonder if you can use the standard themeing
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| 20:09 | <Enslaver> so i never bothered to look at ldm
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| 20:09 | Thats what I did, i actually even took the LTSP logo from the website
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| 20:09 | <vagrantc> i.e. there's something that's triggering the K12LINUX theme stuff, but incompletely
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| 20:09 | <markit> thanks vagrantc
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| 20:10 | <Enslaver> Maybe incompletely but it looks like some of it may be needed or not needed, not sure.
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| 20:10 | It appears as though he's calling gtk_box_pack too early in his method
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| 20:10 | * vagrantc thought forking the theme implementation within the code was a bad idea | |
| 20:11 | <alkisg> How heavier would it be to just use pygtk + glade? :/
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| 20:11 | <markit> vagrantc: btw, even with your setup you have to set a hostname, wondering why is it needed and is not possible to provide just an IP
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| 20:11 | (usually hostname is ignored by the host that is a dhcp client and keeps it's own hostname)
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| 20:11 | <vagrantc> alkisg: it added several seconds to boot times back before we switched
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| 20:12 | markit: there's the "host" entry, but it's not a "hostname" per se.
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| 20:12 | markit: it's just dhcp syntax
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| 20:12 | <Enslaver> line 852 greeter.c
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| 20:12 | <markit> wondering if is the hostname the new alkisg code will get, or I have to use differen parameter
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| 20:13 | <alkisg> Several seconds... that doesn't sound right... :(
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| 20:14 | <Enslaver> vagrantc: There any way possible to turn on more debug info from ldm?
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| 20:15 | i've used evilwm a long time ago and this code looks similar
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| 20:23 | <markit> ok, chroot rebuild (sigh, slow VM)
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| 20:24 | <vagrantc> Enslaver: there's an LDM_DEBUG=true environment variable... dunno if it spits out anything useful.
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| 20:25 | <Enslaver> I've got that set but doesn't help much, I was thinking more along the lines of something in the C code #DEBUG flags or something
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| 20:27 | <markit> alkisg: does not work
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| 20:28 | <alkisg> markit: can you pastebin /var/run/ltsp/net-eth0.conf from the client?
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| 20:28 | (or somewhere nearby...)
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| 20:28 | <markit> ok
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| 20:29 | <Enslaver> well, it didn't compile with K12LINUX flag set ::(
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| 20:29 | <markit> alkisg: just to be sure, my 01-getltscfg is http://pastebin.com/twzF2JQV
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| 20:30 | <alkisg> Right
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| 20:30 | markit: instead of rebuilding, you can test stuff with ltsp.break=01-clean-cache in the kernel command line, and then use vi to edit the file you want to test
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| 20:30 | (or use scp to copy a newer version, or wget, whatever)
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| 20:31 | <markit> I've no /var/run/ltsp/net-eth0.conf in the client
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| 20:31 | <markit> only ltsp-xorg.conf or something like that
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| 20:32 | <alkisg> markit: find /run -name 'net*.conf'
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| 20:33 | <markit> nothing
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| 20:34 | <alkisg> Strange, let me check mine...
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| 20:34 | /var/cache/ltsp/net-*.conf /run/net-*.conf
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| 20:34 | Those are the possible places where we check for net-eth0.conf
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| 20:34 | markit: check in /var/cache/ltsp
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| 20:35 | <markit> there, hostname is ''
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| 20:35 | so probably I don't know how pass hostname with isc-dhcp
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| 20:36 | <alkisg> Right
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| 20:36 | Or the client doesn't request it
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| 20:36 | <Enslaver> So ldminfod runs on the server correct?
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| 20:37 | <markit> maybe "option host-name "xyx"" but last time I tried it, client was unable to boot
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| 20:37 | stopping at "battery checking" and flashing video black
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| 20:37 | let's try again
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| 20:39 | <alkisg> markit: http://prefetch.net/blog/index.php/2009/07/14/how-the-isc-dhcp-server-derives-host-names/
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| 20:39 | It says there that dhcp server will check dns for the hostname
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| 20:39 | Or you can declare it in dhcpd.conf
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| 20:40 | use-host-decl-names on;
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| 20:40 | It says you need that, for the hostname defined in the header "host thecrue {" to take effect
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| 20:40 | <markit> alkisg: works fine now!
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| 20:40 | <alkisg> Cool
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| 20:41 | <markit> btw, I tried this afternoon, since my friend had some problems, with
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| 20:41 | option host-name "ltsp101.mydomain.it";
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| 20:41 | and was not booting fine, as I stated some lines above
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| 20:41 | I'll do some further test, but now that I know that /etc/hosts are not needed, I will review my config and suggest him a lts.conf aproach
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| 20:42 | thanks a lot once more
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> markit: so those changes fix the bug you reported?
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| 20:43 | <markit> well, to be sincere should try the new isc-dhcp setting and the old ltsp code
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| 20:43 | <alkisg> You can quickly test that with ltsp.break=01-clean-cache
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| 20:43 | <markit> alkisg: could you explain me more about that? what/where kernel parameter?
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| 20:43 | <alkisg> Then run vi /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config.d/01-getltscfg
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| 20:44 | pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 20:44 | Replace "quiet splash" with that
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| 20:44 | It'll give you a shell very early in the boot process
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| 20:45 | <markit> ltsp is such a wide world... I feel lost and always newbie sigh
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| 20:49 | <Enslaver> I know, what happened to good ole' fashioned stateless linux clients running xdmcp
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| 20:49 | <markit> works fine with old settings too
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| 20:50 | if we are sure that ltsp.break=01-clean-cache is taking them
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| 20:50 | (how can it work, since ndb image is the old one?)
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| 20:51 | <alkisg> Err I lost you, why is that the old nbd image?
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| 20:52 | Btw, you can easily revert to the old image with sudo ltsp-update-image -r
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| 20:52 | <markit> I mean, I put your changes, then rebuild the NBD image
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| 20:52 | then I edited the file, added ltsp.break=01-clean-cache to the other
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| 20:53 | and NOT rebuild NBD image
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| 20:53 | so how can it be that NBD (the old content) is used but new /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config.d/01-getltscfg is read?
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| 20:53 | <alkisg> That break command should have given you a shell while the client boots
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| 20:53 | Did you get a shell?
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| 20:54 | <markit> I'm in the desktop directly, maybe LDM_DEBUG_TERMINAL=True interferes?
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| 20:54 | <alkisg> cat /proc/cmdline
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| 20:54 | <alkisg> Is ltsp.break there?
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| 20:55 | <markit> no, still quiet splash :(
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| 20:55 | <alkisg> OK anyway forget all that
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| 20:55 | <markit> emacs /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 20:55 | <alkisg> Just run sudo ltsp-update-image -r
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| 20:55 | <markit> append ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nbd0 init=/sbin/init-ltsp ltsp.break=01-clean-cache plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 20:55 | <alkisg> No, you should have changed /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default instead
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| 20:55 | But never mind
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| 20:56 | Just run the ltsp-update-image -r command
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| 20:56 | <markit> ops, big mistake so sorry, OK
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| 20:57 | mm that command is rebuilding the image
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| 20:57 | <alkisg> With -r?!
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| 20:57 | <markit> root@gs1204:~# ltsp-update-image -r
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| 20:57 | <alkisg> That was supposed to `revert` to the .old image...
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| 20:57 | <markit> Parallel mksquashfs: Using 4 processors
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| 20:58 | <alkisg> ls -lha /opt/ltsp/images ?
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| 20:58 | <markit> i386.img i386.img.old i386.img.tmp
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| 20:58 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1,4G gen 4 23:00 i386.img.old
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| 20:58 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1,4G feb 10 21:19 i386.img
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| 20:59 | <alkisg> Meh I don't know what went wrong there, it was supposed to just rename .old to .img
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| 21:01 | <markit> if LTSP will survive to me, will be "idiot proof" ;P
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| 21:07 | <markit> btw, in lts.conf, I can assign whatever hostname I want to a certain mac address, or the "ltsp" prefix is important? My friend wants something like "fat01"
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| 21:07 | and also if I remove ip - ltspXYZ from /etc/hosts, I can't reach them by hostname, any drawback?
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| 21:08 | <alkisg> Any hostname, yeah
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| 21:09 | For fat clients, you can reach them by ltsp123.local
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| 21:09 | Drawbacks, other than that, is that reverse dns lookups won't work and might delay some tasks
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| 21:09 | 'night all
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| 21:43 | <vagrantc> is GMT+1 the same as UTC+1 this time of year?
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| 21:44 | * vagrantc notes that GMT is potentially affected by daylight savings time... | |
| 21:44 | <jammcq> ummm
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| 21:49 | <vagrantc> GMT has been deprecated for decades ...
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| 21:49 | but it has a certain staying power in people's minds
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| 21:50 | just trying to make sure i have the time right for tomorrow's meeting
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| 21:50 | <jammcq> heh
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| 21:51 | according to a friend of mine (mfdutra) who knows time stuff really well, he says that GMT+1 and UTC+1 are always equal
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| 21:51 | <vagrantc> i can easily find out times using "date --utc"
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| 21:51 | <jammcq> any time of year
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| 21:52 | <Phantomas> I think so too. (GMT and UTC are the same thing, practically)
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| 21:55 | "Saying "GMT" often implies either UTC or UT1 when used within informal or casual contexts. In technical contexts, usage of "GMT" is avoided; the unambiguous terminology "UTC" or "UT1" is preferred"
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| 21:55 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
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| 21:55 | Yep, they are the same thing :)
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| 22:00 | <vagrantc> except for people from the uk who think they use GMT
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| 22:07 | <stgraber> right, people often confuse BST and GMT in the UK, but that's their fault ;)
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| 22:21 | * vagrantc prefers the unambigous UTC | |
| 22:22 | <jammcq> I kinda like UTC-5
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| 23:10 | <markit> hi Phantomas :)
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| 23:12 | <Phantomas> hey markit
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| 23:13 | Did you find anything regarding xterm/screen, did you talk with alkisg?
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| 23:17 | <markit> Phantomas: for epoptes assistance?
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| 23:17 | <Phantomas> markit: yes
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| 23:17 | <markit> I filed a bug
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| 23:18 | works only if you run epoptes UI from terminal
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| 23:18 | otherwise $TERRM variable is undefined, or something like that
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| 23:18 | so does not work
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| 23:18 | I'm struggling with boot problems instead, but I remember you don't use ltsp yourself, lol
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| 23:19 | <Phantomas> I use it for testing epoptes :p
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| 23:19 | <markit> anyone knows why if I edit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and I remove "nosplash" still at boot I have that graphical "ubuntu" splash?
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| 23:19 | mmm
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| 23:20 | it's restored from somewhere
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| 23:20 | and plymouth:force-splash could be a problem too
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| 23:21 | Phantomas: doint tests when you are tired is a suicide, you end up running in circle for hours
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