IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 March 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:24 | <meamy> !swap
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| 09:24 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'swap', but I do know about these similar topics: 'suse', 'sugar', 's', 'socat'
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| 12:38 | <markit> hi alkisg, a little note.. in /etc/udev/rulses.d/70-persistent-net-rules or something like that, I renamed interfaces to have eth0 the MB nic, and eth1 and eth2 the additional ones to bound. I've noticed that with kernel 3.5, and it's the second time it happens, this does not work anymore, and you end with an "unamed2" interface. I've found no workaround just had to surrender to the automatic assignment. Also only eth1 is "frozen" with a mac-address, other are
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| 12:38 | not listed in that file with 3.5 (I deleted the file). Just to make you aware of this
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| 12:38 | (BTW I'm at work now)
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> markit: I haven't noticed any issues with 3.5 and persistent udev rules
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| 12:40 | I'll keep that in mind though
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| 12:46 | <markit> alkisg: do you rename ethx also there? I mean if you have line 1 with eth1 and line2 with eth0, you swap the "eth1" string with "eth0"? Also try to move the file to /root and reboot to see how many items are generated, in my fist server I had a lot of troubles and I had to remove the additional nics and re-install one by one, but was a simple old PC used as "server" so maybe not well designed for that
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> markit: yes that's the place to edit eth* names
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| 12:49 | Although I once saw that they were planning to name interfaces based on their bus position etc
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| 12:49 | Maybe they're doing that on the server edition, dunno
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| 12:50 | <markit> dmesg and googling, but don't recall the detail, seems that the answer is a name clash among kernel and udev
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| 12:50 | so the "collided" ethX is renamed "unamed2"
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| 12:50 | and left so
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| 12:51 | I thought was just a hw problem of that pc until yesterday when I had the same after 3.5 upgrade, but no time to investigate further
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| 13:18 | <jammcq> good morning friends
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| 13:39 | <sbalneav> Morning all!!!!!!!!
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| 13:39 | HAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKFFFFFFFFFFFEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!
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| 13:40 | So, how we gonna do this?
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| 13:40 | one sec, coffee, back in 5
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| 13:51 | <alkisg> Good morning jammcq, sbalneav
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| 13:51 | knipwim, Hyperbyte, Enslaver, stgraber, highvoltage, mgariepy, gvy: anyone around for the hackfest? vagrantc said he won't be around for most of it...
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| 13:52 | <knipwim> i'm around
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| 13:52 | the whole day today, and in the evenings the rest of the week
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| 13:52 | <stgraber> alkisg: well, I'm around if you have specific questions but otherwise I'm terribly busy with other things :(
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| 13:53 | <alkisg> cyberorg: ^
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| 13:56 | <sbalneav> I'm committed to being here all this week, 8:30 am CST to 8:30 PM cst.
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| 13:56 | But I forgot my phone at home today, but I have my tablet, so if we want to get a google hangout underway...
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| 13:56 | <mgariepy> sorry i can't hang around.
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| 13:57 | <sbalneav> I am at work. I might have to leave here and there for a bit, but they understand I'm mostly working on LTSP this week.
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| 13:58 | Be back in a few, I have one bit of business to take care of.
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| 14:15 | <alkisg> Me and Phantomas have a demo for the new ltsp configuration system, we can talk about it later on when more people are here...
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| 14:19 | <sbalneav> I am back.
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| 14:19 | Well, I suppose I'll just build myself a chroot, and start hacking.
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| 14:19 | <jammcq> should we be meeting in #ltsp-meeting? or just hang out here?
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| 14:22 | also, can we talk about our goals for this hack-a-thon?
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| 14:23 | <sbalneav> Sure can.
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| 14:23 | But alkisg has left, and the others aren't here. :)
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| 14:24 | jammcq: Oh, and I left my phone at home. So if you need to call me, my work number: 204-985-5249
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| 14:26 | <jammcq> check
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| 14:37 | <sbalneav> Does anybody know if there's an equivalent to "ppa"'s on launchpad for debian?
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| 14:42 | <vmlintu> I'd be interested in something like that too
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| 14:44 | sbalneav: have you got lightdm working for logins yet with libpam-ssh?
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| 14:46 | <vmlintu> lightdm has been now in use in our systems with pam_krb5 for a week now, but the implementation is quite different..
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| 14:49 | <sbalneav> vmlintu: I will be working on it all this week.
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| 15:03 | <vmlintu> Is the plan to use libnss-sshsock or libnss-extrausers?
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| 15:05 | In my testing libnss-extrausers has been working nicely
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| 15:10 | <sbalneav> vmlintu: probably extrausers. sshsock was a nice idea, but it has one flaw.
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| 15:10 | when you need the groups is when you're shutting down the root-owned socket, and starting the user owned socket.
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| 15:10 | that's exactly when you need the user info, and that's exactly when the socket isn't available :)
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| 15:11 | I didn't think that through enough, obviously :)
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| 15:11 | <vmlintu> yep.. :) I thought that you'd come up with some magic for that
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| 15:11 | But after using extrausers for that I'd say that it works nicely
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| 15:13 | I'm using this script now to create the files for nss-extrausers: https://github.com/opinsys/puavo-ltsp/blob/master/client/puavo-ltsp-login
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| 15:13 | It fetches the information from LDAP using GSSAPI authentication, so it's probably not good for normal ltsp..
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| 15:14 | <sbalneav> The one thing I *don't* like about extrausers is that there's only one file.
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| 15:14 | ideally, what I'd like is for there to be:
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| 15:15 | A directory where you can place passwd, group, and shadow files of any name.
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| 15:15 | an environment variable that points to the PARTICULAR file(s) you're supposed to use.
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| 15:15 | that way, you could support multiple logins on multiple screens.
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| 15:16 | I may fork extrausers and add this functionality.
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| 15:16 | but for now, it'll do to get things going.
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| 15:19 | <hateIE10> hi can you use freerdp for windows 2012 hyperv virtual desktop stuff?
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| 15:20 | <ltspuser_55> hello everyone
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| 15:20 | I wanted to know what happens when i run out if space on my server
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| 15:21 | i mean for example if i run out of space on my server ad i add another hardrive will ltsp automatically use that drive or would i have to run a command to tell it to do so
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| 15:22 | Sorry for the trouble i am for the first time will be using a server
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| 15:22 | <vmlintu> sbalneav: yes, that'd be a cleaner solution than just writing multiple users to the extrausers files
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| 15:23 | <ltspuser_55> sorry but can u tell me how to do that
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| 15:23 | or could you refer me to any kind of documentation
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| 15:25 | your help is really appreciated
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| 15:25 | <vmlintu> ltspuser_55: That doesn't have anything to do with ltsp. You need to add the harddrive to the system like you would without ltsp. Depending on how your system is setup.
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| 15:26 | <ltspuser_55> so u are saying if i would add a hardrive then everything would be back to normal and it would be automatically used?
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| 15:26 | <hateIE10> probably you need to add the new space to your samba server then your thin clients can access it over the network
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| 15:27 | <ltspuser_55> thank you really
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| 15:27 | <vmlintu> ltspuser_55: normally systems do not use automatically new drives. What kind of setup do you have?
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| 15:28 | <ltspuser_55> i have a ubuntu 12.04 lts with the ;tsp server
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| 15:28 | running on a desktop
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| 15:28 | with intel core i7 2600k and asus p8z68 v-pro
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| 15:28 | i just used my desktop and made it a server
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| 15:29 | <hateIE10> cunning
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| 15:29 | <hateIE10> we'll be watching you desktop computer abuser
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| 15:29 | <ltspuser_55> Can i just fuse all the hardrives together into one big harddrive?
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| 15:30 | <vmlintu> ltspuser_55: if you set it up using LVM, yes
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| 15:31 | <ltspuser_55> can u please refer me any links which tells me how to do so
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| 15:31 | ?
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| 15:32 | <knipwim> google ubuntu lvm
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> sbalneav: we can have /var/run/ltsp/screenXX.passwd and group files, and have a script to merge all of them into a single file for extrausers
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| 15:33 | <vmlintu> ltspuser_55: I usually use this myself: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
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| 15:33 | <jammcq> ltspuser_55: you need a good Linux System Administration book
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| 15:33 | <ltspuser_55> yes
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| 15:33 | all help is really appreciated
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| 15:36 | <alkisg> vmlintu: you're using pam_krb5 with ldap, right? Any downsides there?
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| 15:37 | <vmlintu> alkisg: yes, pam_krb5 for login, then a script to fetch data from ldap using the user kerberos credentials and writing them to extrausers
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| 15:37 | alkisg: so far it's been working perfectly
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| 15:38 | No need to write any authentication code or use ssh sockets
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| 15:38 | Our fat clients do not open ssh socket at all
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| 15:38 | <alkisg> vmlintu: why do you need extrausers? Can you have the ltsp clients be ldap clients themselves?
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| 15:38 | *can't
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| 15:40 | <vmlintu> alkisg: We could, but some systems have some 10k users in ldap. We used nss-ldapd before, but it makes a lot of unnecessary calls, so we made this as a speed optimization.
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| 15:41 | <alkisg> vmlintu: I see... so, if sbalneav implements the ssh authentication, will you have any reasons to use kerberos then?
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| 15:41 | Also, fats now can't use remoteapps, right?
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| 15:41 | <sbalneav> Working on getting a chroot setup now.
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| 15:41 | <vmlintu> alkisg: sssd works much better in that way, but I couldn't figure out how it could be configured securely in this case
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| 15:42 | <ltspuser_55> Thank You guys for all thehelp and i have decided to use the lvm to mange disk space
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| 15:42 | <vmlintu> alkisg: nfs4 needs the kerberos ticket, so we need to use pam_krb5
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| 15:42 | alkisg: we are not using remoteapps now, but we can open applications on the server with ssh using the kerberos credentials
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| 15:43 | <sbalneav> alkisg: well, the problem with that is that you may not want one user to "see" group permissions from another user on the same terminal. That seems rather silly, but a second problem could be where you have two logins, both with the same uid, but called different thinngs
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| 15:43 | like say: fred:x:1000 and on a different machine bob:x:1000
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> sbalneav: but even if extrausers supported that, linux wouldn't, right?
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| 15:44 | So each user could then see the other user's processes...
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| 15:44 | Linux doesn't support having 2 different users with the same UID, does it?
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| 15:45 | vmlintu: Gotcha... but then if all these can be done with existing tools, why do we need libpam_sshauth at all? Maybe sbalneav could help with selecting + finding appropriate configurations for these tools instead?
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| 15:46 | <sbalneav> alkisg: Well, it would, since they're two different machines.
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| 15:46 | <alkisg> sbalneav: aren't we talking about localapps and fats for that?
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| 15:46 | I.e. extrausers would run on the client, no?
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| 15:47 | <sbalneav> extrausers will run all the time, now.
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| 15:47 | even in a pure thin setup.
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| 15:47 | <alkisg> But on the client, not on the server, correct?
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| 15:47 | <sbalneav> since any display manager wants to fork/exec as the user.
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| 15:48 | <alkisg> So if screen05 pointed to server1 with bob:1000, and screen06 pointed to server2 with fred:1000, then both bob and fred would have to exist locally on the client with id=1000, which is something that linux wouldn't support anyway
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| 15:48 | <sbalneav> right, but if you've got two ltsp screens, one logging into server a, and another to server b, and they're not configured "well", then they may run into an issue.
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| 15:48 | <alkisg> That's where our merging script should step in and say "you can't login a second time due to conflicts in users"
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| 15:48 | <vmlintu> alkisg: if one has kerberos+ldap setup (samba4 should be fine too), then libpam-sshauth should not be needed
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| 15:49 | <alkisg> vmlintu: I'm very interested in samba4 and kerberos... it would be very nice if you wrote a wiki page for it on ltsp.org or somewhere else
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| 15:50 | <vmlintu> alkisg: I have never used samba4 myself, so I cannot say much about that. I've been reading about it lately to understand what it does..
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| 15:51 | <alkisg> As I understand it, if we used it in ltsp, we could have windows clients authenticating against the ltsp server too, both physical and LTSP VMs
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| 15:52 | <vmlintu> yes, that should be possible
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| 15:53 | We are now using samba3 for that, but without AD domain, of course
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| 15:54 | <sbalneav> Woot. OK, got a booting chroot. Now to see if I can get lightdm going.
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| 16:01 | <vmlintu> alkisg: if you want to try puavo-tftpd sometime, it has now a readme file with some instructions and examples
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| 16:02 | alkisg: we've been also workig on fixing nbd bugs to get it stable on 12.04->
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| 16:02 | <alkisg> vmlintu: a PPA with the fixes would be nice!!!
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| 16:02 | We could copy stuff from your PPA and you could copy from ours this way
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| 16:03 | <vmlintu> alkisg: right now the patches are on nbd-general mailing list, we don't have a package with those ourselves either
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| 16:03 | There's also now a patch that adds some reconfiguration support for nbd-server without a restart: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20130310202558.GA19331%40lakka.kapsi.fi&forum_name=nbd-general
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> vmlintu: anything that wouter found acceptable for upstream?
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| 16:05 | <vmlintu> alkisg: Some patches are still being worked on. The goal is to move initialization parts after forking so that the main process won't die if something goes wrong.
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| 16:06 | alkisg: We'll do some changes to our package builders so that it produces a public apt repo for public packages. We'll start working on that once nbd is fixed.
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| 16:07 | <alkisg> public apt repo != launchpad... /me loves the "copy from/to PPA" launchpad feature :)
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| 16:07 | Sending updates in all schools in 2 mouse clicks!
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| 16:08 | mgariepy: do you have a little time to talk about the client parts of ltsp-cluster?
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| 16:08 | <vmlintu> alkisg: how fast are the ppa builders now? Last time we tried using them it took days even for simple packages to get built..
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> We're implementing a new configuration system for LTSP and I think it'll also be able to cover the ltsp-cluster-client needs... it's using wget to send variables to the server and receive configuration at different boot phases
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| 16:09 | initramfs, init, screen-script, login, logout, shutdown
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| 16:09 | Are those enough to cover the cluster needs? Can we remove all other cluster references from the ltsp sources?
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| 16:10 | (the idea for ltsp6 is to start with a clean tree, and devs will slowly import parts from ltsp5 over... not all the old code will be copied)
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| 16:11 | <sbalneav> Anyone up for a goooooooooooooooooogle hangout?
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| 16:11 | <alkisg> vmlintu: it depends on how busy launchpad is, e.g. on a release it might take 20+ hours, while when the ubuntu-devs aren't that busy with uploads, it may take 10 minutes...
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| 16:19 | <vmlintu> alkisg: ok, hopefully we can make it upload the same sources to launchpad also
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| 16:22 | <sbalneav> I'll be tracking my progress at: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Dev:LTSPPamNotes
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| 16:31 | <vmlintu> sbalneav: now that I remember, if you use the lightdm-gtk-greeter in ubuntu, it has a bug that the configuration file needs to be in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and sessions in /usr/share/xsessions. I tried changing those using the -c switch for lightdm, but it doesn't work.
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| 16:32 | I don't know if unity-greeter has the same bug
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| 16:32 | I just switched back to using the default file + xsessions dir
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| 16:36 | <sbalneav> vmlintu: I'm not using ubuntu, I've switched to debian.
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| 16:37 | <vmlintu> ok.. I'm not sure if it has the same bug
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| 16:53 | <sbalneav> Alright, I'm off for lunch, back in a bit. With any luck, by 8:00 tonight, I should have a thin client that boots lightdm and logs into the server.
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| 16:58 | <ltspuser_31> hello everyone
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| 16:58 | I wanted to know how to add a drive to my ltsp server
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| 16:59 | i,e. how to expand my ltsp server after my clients have used all the data available
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| 16:59 | data implying space
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| 16:59 | any help is appreciated
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| 17:00 | <ltspuser_31> can anyone help me please
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| 17:06 | <ltspuser_31> can anyone help me ?
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| 17:06 | <jammcq> this isn't the place for that type of help
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| 17:06 | you need help with basic Linux system administration
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| 17:06 | that is NOT ltsp support
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| 17:07 | <ltspuser_31> ok sorry
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| 17:07 | <||cw> ltspuser_31: yeah that's just added space to a server
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| 17:07 | standard issue stuff
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| 17:15 | <hateIE10> i swear i just saw a black cat then another one just like it
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| 17:15 | <||cw> uh oh. the the windows all get bricked over?
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| 17:16 | <knipwim> a glitch in the matrix ...
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| 17:17 | <hateIE10> ltspuser = a web client some where?
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| 17:17 | <||cw> yes
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| 17:35 | <knipwim> does anyone know why a client gets a 200.0.0.0 ip?
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| 17:36 | or rather, his it, although it received a regular 192.168 ip
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| 17:37 | erm, has it
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| 18:12 | <sbalneav> Back from lunch
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| 18:12 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 18:13 | <sbalneav> hello vagrantc
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| 18:13 | vagrantc: Say, is there a place like launchpad for debian where I can have a ppa?
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| 18:13 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: nothing with autobuilders, but there are places you can put up package repositories
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| 18:14 | <mgariepy> sbalneav, maybe : http://openbuildservice.org/
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| 18:14 | <vagrantc> isn't that a suse thing?
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| 18:14 | <sbalneav> mgariepy: Cool
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| 18:14 | <vagrantc> i mean, it builds packages for other distros, but the results were ... odd.
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| 18:14 | <mgariepy> they support a lot of distro.. ;)
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| 18:15 | i haven't tested it but i would like to know if it works.
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| 18:17 | <vagrantc> so, how goes the hackfest?
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| 18:17 | * vagrantc might not be able to be as actively involved... *sigh* | |
| 18:18 | <ogra_> hey, at least you have a placeholder ...
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| 18:19 | * ogra_ noticed that apt-get install vagrant works in ubuntu nowadays | |
| 18:19 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 18:20 | while there's some functional overlap, i'm not fond of being associated with virtualbox
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| 18:20 | <ogra_> heh
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| 18:21 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: Working on it right now. Should have a functional lightdm login by tonight.
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| 18:32 | <Hyperbyte> Hi!
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| 18:33 | <muppis> Lo!
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| 18:33 | <Hyperbyte> So, today is the LTSP hackathon kickoff? :-)
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| 18:39 | <vagrantc> so i hear
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| 18:42 | <mgariepy> alkisg, the client part of ltsp-cluster is almost the same as ltsp-not-cluster. the only difference is where the lts.conf file come from plus the ""logging""
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| 18:47 | <sbalneav> Hyperbyte: I been hacking since I got in :)
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| 18:49 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: what's the best way to help you out, then? dunno what you're working on exactly.
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| 18:49 | today is pretty much my only day, more or less
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| 18:50 | <Hyperbyte> sbalneav, yeah, what are you hacking? ;-)
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| 18:51 | <vagrantc> i guess i could set up a CentOS server or something and test out what Enslaver's been working on...
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| 18:52 | * vagrantc takes a look at http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Dev:Hackathon_2013.03 | |
| 18:52 | <sbalneav> vagrantc, Hyperbyte: So, what I'm working on at the moment is hacking up a chroot to the point where I can get a log in using lightdm.
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| 18:53 | I can handle the C stuff and the hacking stuff, but once I identify the changes, I'm clueless as to how to integrate them into the ltsp-build-client, and how to package all of it.
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| 18:54 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: we'd probably want to integrate it into init-ltsp.d rather than ltsp-build-client
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| 18:54 | i.e. make the tweaks at runtime
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| 18:55 | <sbalneav> So what I'm hoping for, out of this week, is that I can do this initial work, I tell you what I had to change to make it work, you package it up however, then I rebuild the client. Once that works flawlessly for a "plain old" login (i.e. no localdevs, no sound, no localapps, no fat client) then we start adding back the functionality a layer at a time.
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| 18:55 | sound, then devs, then localapps, then phat.
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| 18:55 | Does that seem reasonable?
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| 18:56 | <vagrantc> sounds reasonable... though i might want to try fatclients first :)
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| 18:56 | since it's should be relatively easy, no?
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| 18:56 | * vagrantc would really like to be able to select fat or thin client at login time | |
| 18:58 | <vagrantc> Enslaver: where would i start to test your code, short of not knowing much of anything about RHEL, CentOS or Fedora? My hunch is I'd like to set up a CentOS server to test it out... recommendations?
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| 19:00 | <sbalneav> So, here's something I don't understand.
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| 19:00 | Debian wheezy server, debian wheezy chroot, both amd64
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| 19:00 | I've installed lightdm.
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| 19:01 | On the server, I can look at /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/init.d, and there's a lightdm there
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| 19:01 | when I boot the thin client, it's not there.
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| 19:01 | Is something removing it?
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| 19:01 | ls
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| 19:01 | <vagrantc> probably something from /opt/ltsp/amd64/usr/share/ltsp/init-ltsp.d/*
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| 19:01 | remove-services or some such
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| 19:02 | sbalneav: in lts.conf: KEEP_SYSTEM_SERVICES=lightdm
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| 19:03 | <sbalneav> found it.
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| 19:03 | <vagrantc> specifically, /opt/ltsp/amd64/usr/share/ltsp/init-ltsp.d/50-rm-system-services
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| 19:04 | sbalneav: basically, in order to support ltsp-pnp, we do (nearly) all filesystem mangling at boot, rather than during ltsp-build-client
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| 19:05 | that way installing LTSP related packages doesn't "break" a normal install ... so ltsp features are enabled at boot only if asked for.
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| 19:07 | makes it really easy to set up fatclient installs ... but is a little confusing when the booted filesystem doesn't look quite like the filesystem on the server.
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| 19:10 | <sbalneav> Got it. Hacking things up now.
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| 19:25 | * vagrantc mulls over http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Dev:LTSPPamNotes | |
| 19:26 | * vagrantc wonders what ssmtp is for | |
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| 19:28 | <sbalneav> ditches exim4 :)
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| 19:28 | I use it a LOT
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| 19:28 | fantastic little program
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| 19:29 | creates the /usr/lib/sendmail, but it's a very simple little program that just contatcs your mailhup.
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| 19:29 | mailhub
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| 19:30 | <vagrantc> yes, i know what it is ... just wonder what's pulling it in at all.
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| 19:31 | oh, i remember exim4 getting pulled in by who knows what and was happy to have rm-system-services to "clean" that up, at least.
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| 19:32 | sbalneav: it isn't strictly necessary for setting up this ltsp-pam-stuff?
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| 19:44 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: no, I just saw exim4 was installed, and I added by default :)
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| 19:44 | ALTHOUGH
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| 19:45 | If you DID want your thin clients to mail you things directly (like logs or warnings).... :)
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| 19:46 | getting closer. Just trying to figure out why libpam_sshauth isn't recognizing /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
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| 19:48 | <junior_jaciara> im having problems with epoptes, this is the right channel ?
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| 19:50 | im running epoptes and without any intervention i lose access to all epoptes pc
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| 19:50 | my system is a standalone
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| 19:56 | <junior_jaciara> get this
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| 19:56 | I am a user client, will add aluno02 in my list Screenshot for client 192.168.0.103:46733 timed out. Requesting a new one... Screenshot for client 192.168.0.108:37697 timed out. Requesting a new one... Screenshot for client 192.168.0.103:46738 timed out. Requesting a new one... Screenshot for client 192.168.0.108:37691 timed out. Requesting a new one... Screenshot for client 192.168.0.108:37686 timed out. Requesting a new one...
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| 19:59 | <vagrantc> junior_jaciara: don't really know how to help with your problem, but epoptes developers do hang out here.
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| 20:08 | <sbalneav> Gentlemen.
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| 20:08 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: who you calling men?
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| 20:08 | <sbalneav> I have logged in to an x session on the server using lightdm from a thin client.
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| 20:08 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 20:11 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: ok, now show the rest of us monkeys how! :)
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| 20:12 | <sbalneav> Workin' on it. :) I'm going to try to get it all into the ltsp-init.d format here.
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| 20:13 | gimme an hour or so. I'll probably end up blowing away the chroot and starting fresh, so as to make sure I got my p's and q's right.
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| 20:22 | * sbalneav is so happy to be back to an nfs chroot :) | |
| 20:22 | <jammcq> it's kinda refreshing, eh?
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| 20:22 | it's nice to work with, but then when I get everything all settled, I like to make a nbd image cuz it boots faster
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| 20:28 | <vagrantc> glad i stuck with making sure NFS doesn't get abandoned all these years
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| 20:37 | * vagrantc wonders how to make the centos installer use a 640x480 resolution ... | |
| 20:38 | <jammcq> vagrantc: please, let's see if we can keep making sure NFS doesn't get eliminated
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| 20:39 | I'll gladly help in that battle
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| 20:43 | <vagrantc> jammcq: seems to be working out fine, but i had to struggle for a while :)
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| 21:00 | * vagrantc is not having much luck with centos | |
| 21:01 | <vagrantc> failed at partitioning 3 of 4 times... the one time it successfully partitioned, it didn't boot...
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| 21:01 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 21:01 | where's Enslaver ?
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| 21:02 | <||cw> bad disk?
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| 21:02 | <vagrantc> figured i'd at least be able to get a base install working
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| 21:02 | it's a virtual machine ... the host OS hasn't detected any errors
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| 21:05 | well, the host OS is detecting some sort of error: [3430551.476621] Buffer I/O error on device dm-9, logical block 10239999
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| 21:06 | hmm... my virtual machine looks weird.
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| 21:09 | it seems to have make lvm snapshots for some reason ...
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| 21:39 | <vagrantc> ok, it was some weird interaction between lvm and libvirt... i now have a centos 6.4 install... ready to test Enslaver's stuff
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| 21:48 | <vagrantc> !ltsp-pnp
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| 21:48 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 22:33 | <sbalneav> So, in ltsp-update-sshkeys, it seems to add the userid on the end of the key: i.e. servername keytype <keydata> root@server
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| 22:34 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: it's essentially a comment field
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| 22:34 | sbalneav: you could put whatever you want in there...
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| 22:34 | sbalneav: all that matters is fields 1 2 and 3.
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| 22:34 | <sbalneav> Hmm, well, it seems to break libssh. it doesn't want anything there.
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| 22:34 | I'm trying to see if there's a way I can code around it.
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| 22:34 | <vagrantc> sounds like a pretty ugly bug in libssh...
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| 22:35 | <sbalneav> You think? :)
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| 22:35 | <vagrantc> it's really common practice for various things to include the userid or other random data there
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| 22:36 | <sbalneav> Yuuuuup
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| 22:36 | http://osdir.com/ml/general/2012-11/msg31558.html
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| 22:36 | Sigh.
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| 22:39 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: you might also be unhappily interested in: http://bugs.debian.org/693815
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| 22:40 | sbalneav: and http://bugs.debian.org/src:libssh in general
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| 22:41 | <sbalneav> Faaaaaaaaaaa.
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| 22:41 | Cripes. Enslaver was saying that libssh2 is the better way to go, but I *really* don't want to have to re-write the entire damned pam module at this point :(
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| 22:42 | criminy.
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| 23:41 | <hateIE10> libssh shouldnt crap itself over a comment in a file and if it did one would think it would be fairly trvial to make it refrain from that behavior
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