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08:35 | <_UsUrPeR_> good mownin' #ltsp!
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08:49 | <cliebow> Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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08:52 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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08:58 | <Gadi> !s
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08:58 | <ltspbot`> Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08:58 | <cliebow> sbalneav:Gadi Happy Christmas and Chanukah!!!
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08:59 | <Gadi> cliebow: peace on earth, good will towards men and women and other
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08:59 | :)
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08:59 | <cliebow> :)
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08:59 | <sbalneav> Gadi: Happy Chanukah!
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09:00 | <cliebow> hope the spelling was right..
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09:00 | * sbalneav googles for a good seasonal greeting | |
09:00 | <Gadi> Happy holidays to everyone
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09:00 | naughty and otherwise
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09:00 | cliebow: as long as you have a bunch of h's and k's ur all good
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09:00 | oh, and throw in a little phlegm
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09:00 | <cliebow> Wee!
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09:01 | <sbalneav> Oooh, I like this one:
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09:01 | <Gadi> there's a reason the holiday is in the winter ;)
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09:01 | <sbalneav> I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders.
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09:01 | * Gadi rolls his eyes | |
09:01 | <Gadi> how about an ox and plugh?
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09:01 | *plough
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09:02 | <cliebow> you know any Yiddish?
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09:02 | <Gadi> a bissle
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09:03 | <sbalneav> Ah
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09:03 | Chanukah Sameach
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09:03 | <cliebow> my Dad always called me Stoixhl..mean anything to you?
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09:03 | <Gadi> sbalneav: nice!
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09:04 | <sbalneav> On CBC radio last night, they played a reading of "Bone Button Borcht"
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09:05 | <Gadi> cliebow: not sure
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09:06 | <cliebow> perhaps he just made it up..my baby brother was called boxhl
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09:06 | <Gadi> hehe
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09:06 | <cliebow> my older strudwick
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09:07 | <Gadi> lol
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09:34 | <rjune_> !g
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09:34 | <ltspbot`> rjune_: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09:52 | <cliebow> ltpsbot`:learn r as rjune
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09:55 | !
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10:04 | <rjune_> !r
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10:04 | <ltspbot`> rjune_: Error: "r" is not a valid command.
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10:04 | <rjune_> cliebow, doh!
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10:04 | <cliebow> somethinf like tht
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11:34 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: Hey there!
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11:37 | <vagrantc> hi
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11:38 | * vagrantc eyes up the snow and plans to walk to work | |
11:39 | <sbalneav> Hey, quick question for you
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11:40 | I've gotten an email from someone saying that they fixed some problems they had with NBD connections dropping by using the -persist option on the client mount.
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11:40 | Can you think of a reason why we SHOULDN'T use that by default?
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11:40 | <vagrantc> i think current upstream does use it
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11:40 | stgraber committed it a while back
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11:41 | <sbalneav> doh
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11:41 | yeah, looks like it
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11:41 | NM, ignore me
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11:43 | Also, I got sent a "wyse60" screen script, that someone uses.
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11:43 | I might add it to the upstream
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11:44 | <vagrantc> sure
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11:44 | sbalneav: why would i ignore you, though, when you're such a good dancer? :)
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11:47 | <sbalneav> Shake that bootay!
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11:48 | How's your sweetie, BTW?
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11:48 | <cliebow> AND he can sing..as long as it norse
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11:48 | <sbalneav> Hey hey cliebow!
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11:48 | <cliebow> 8~)
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11:48 | <sbalneav> How's the hollidays in SW harbor
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11:48 | Schools out by now?
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11:48 | <cliebow> cold feet..
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11:48 | <sbalneav> What's the temp?
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11:48 | <cliebow> school is out today
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11:49 | ohh outside it is near 20..inside my sneakers about 15
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11:49 | i got new boots but the waterproofing is drying..
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11:51 | <sbalneav> That's only -6 celcius. Last night it was -27c, or -16.6F
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11:51 | I WISH it was -6 here :)
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11:52 | <cliebow> you are toughened up better than i am..probably you have shorts on today..
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11:52 | <vagrantc> portland is basically out of commission with about 9-12 inches of snow on the ground
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11:53 | <cliebow> most of the people asleep in the ariports?
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11:53 | dyslectic i am getting'
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11:54 | <sbalneav> Yeah, all over Canada, it's snow.
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11:54 | <vagrantc> actually, it's great. half the population doesn't go to work, walking the neighborhoods and smiling happily at how marvelous it is
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11:54 | <sbalneav> Apparently, it's the first winter since '71 where all of Canada's gonna have a white Christmas
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11:55 | <cliebow> we expect sleet and rain tomorrow..for us mostly rain
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11:57 | <evilx_> Hello
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11:58 | <cliebow> lpo
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11:58 | <evilx_> I am wanting to install LTSP server using ubuntu, I am confused if I need the Alternative CD or if the Ubuntu Server cd will be fine?
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11:59 | <cliebow> evilx_, wont apt do what you need?
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11:59 | <evilx_> I am sure, but im downloading the server cd right now for 64bit, hopefuly it will work for 32bit thin clients, but I am not sure if it has teh LTSP serer install functionality
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12:00 | it at 60% so it almost done
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12:01 | <vagrantc> and LTSP server is basically a desktop server, so i *think* you'll want the alternate CD
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12:01 | ubuntu-server is missing most of the stuff ltsp needs
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12:06 | <evilx_> ok thansk
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12:19 | <Q-FUNK> ahoy!
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12:37 | <cliebow> yoha!
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12:39 | * Gadi waves to rjune and apologies for being afk | |
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13:54 | <stgraber> Anyone about to commit to ltsp-trunk or can I tag ?
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13:58 | <Gadi> no commits from me
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13:59 | stgraber: lemme know when ur in a position to test that local ltspfsmounter stuff again
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14:00 | I hacked in some code to ltspfsd which should hopefully turn off the xauth stuff for local connections
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14:05 | <stgraber> Gadi: ok, I'll have a look
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14:29 | <_UsUrPeR_> anyone know what the default ssh password on a client is?
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14:29 | err... for ubuntu 8.04
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14:30 | I'm trying to ssh into a client :/
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14:32 | <sbalneav> There won't be one set, and unless you've set up sshd in the chroot, there won't be ssh on the thin client either
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14:33 | <_UsUrPeR_> yeah, I just put sshd on the client
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14:36 | <sbalneav> Then you'll have to set a root password
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14:36 | the docs have information on how to do that
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14:36 | !docs
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14:36 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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14:41 | <evilx_> I just setup lstp, but i keep getting couldnt verify and goes to a blank screen
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14:42 | do I have to add the users in the chroot enviroment for lstp or the normal will work?
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14:43 | <Gadi> evilx_: no you dont
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14:43 | <evilx_> Gadi: ?
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14:43 | <Gadi> can you ssh to that computer with one of those usernames?
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14:43 | <evilx_> no i cant ssh to the machine
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14:44 | <Gadi> you cannot ssh into the server?
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14:44 | if not, then you cannot use ltsp either
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14:44 | <evilx_> trying to login
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14:44 | <Gadi> all ltsp does is ssh
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14:44 | <evilx_> im on the lstp client
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14:44 | and the server at once
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14:44 | i got an error
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14:44 | <Gadi> what error?
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14:44 | <evilx_> Kernel call return: Broken pipe reconnecting and then Error: Ioctl/1.1a failed: Bad file descriptior
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14:45 | <Gadi> in virtualbox?
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14:45 | <evilx_> the console of the lstp box yeah
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14:45 | <Gadi> yeah, virtualbox has some issues - can you try a real thin client?
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14:45 | <evilx_> this is actually a real thin client
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14:46 | HP t5135
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14:46 | <Gadi> ok, im confused
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14:46 | <evilx_> that I am connecting the the LSTP server to
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14:46 | <Gadi> you have a real thin client
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14:46 | and real server
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14:46 | nothing virtual?
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14:46 | <evilx_> yeah
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14:46 | nope
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14:46 | <Gadi> ok
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14:46 | <evilx_> i have 40 thin clients
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14:46 | <Gadi> all the same model?
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14:46 | <evilx_> yeah
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14:46 | <Gadi> ok
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14:47 | <evilx_> same ordeal
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14:47 | <Gadi> and this is a default ltsp install?
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14:47 | <evilx_> yes
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14:47 | <Gadi> what distro?
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14:47 | <evilx_> but I rebuilt the the build with --arch i386 since it on amd64 system
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14:47 | <Gadi> right. good.
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14:48 | ubuntu?
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14:48 | <evilx_> yes
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14:48 | <Gadi> ok
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14:48 | <evilx_> the processor are VIA Eden 400mhz on the thin clients
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14:48 | <Gadi> do this:
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14:48 | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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14:48 | (sorry - sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386)
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14:48 | then:
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14:49 | <evilx_> im alredy root,so no big deal
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14:49 | <Gadi> passwd -u root
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14:49 | passwd
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14:49 | and set a password in the chroot for root)
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14:49 | <evilx_> ok
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14:49 | <Gadi> then exit the chroot
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14:49 | and ltsp-update-image
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14:49 | <evilx_> ok
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14:50 | <Gadi> reboot the client, and when it boots up, ctrl-alt-f1 and login to the console as root
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14:50 | <evilx_> well ltsp-update-image --arch i386 is running
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14:50 | <Gadi> ok
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14:50 | once you logon to the thin client console as root, try to ssh from the thin client console to the server as one of the users
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14:50 | and see what it says
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14:51 | btw: on the server, do you have gnome installed or some such?
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14:52 | (the server needs: openssh-server and some desktop like Gnome, KDE, etc)
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14:53 | <evilx_> ok
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14:53 | it got that error again
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14:53 | but hold on
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14:53 | ok
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14:53 | im on the thin client sshed into the server
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14:54 | <Gadi> ok
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14:54 | did it prompt you about verifying the host key?
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14:54 | <evilx_> hold on i think it just logged in
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14:54 | ok
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14:54 | i got the gui to log in
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14:54 | <Gadi> good
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14:54 | hehe
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14:54 | prolly was nothing we did
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14:55 | <evilx_> yeah
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14:59 | i need to change the resolution on these
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14:59 | to much for this little machien
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14:59 | the second one not going though it seems stuck
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15:00 | but it making some odd noises
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15:03 | <Gadi> evilx_: create an lts.conf and add LDM_DIRECTX=True
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15:03 | you may also want to set X_COLOR_DEPTH = 16
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15:03 | gotta run...
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15:08 | <evilx_> ok thanks
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15:19 | weird, lags when i just enter the username and password, but if i go to terminal and login to root and ssh into the server then go back to x and login it seems to do fine
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15:37 | <alkisg> evilx_: maybe dns resolving problems (avahi), if your dhcp server doesn't give hostnames then try adding lines like "192.168.0.101 client101" for all clients to /etc/hosts on the server.
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15:43 | <evilx_> maybe
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15:44 | ill check that out right nowe
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15:45 | i see it creating LTSP for hostname of every machine
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15:46 | <evilx_> there no script or anything that will create a clientxx hostname for each machine that connect?
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19:10 | <spader3d> hi al
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19:10 | all
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19:11 | is it possible to use LTSP to offer TV?
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19:13 | i search the net and found a page myltsptv.org but seems to be very old
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19:20 | <linuxana> hallo
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19:23 | :)
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22:24 | <evilx_> Is there away to get LTSP to work without using SSH>
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22:24 | ?
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22:29 | <Ryan52> evilx_, why would you want to?
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22:30 | <evilx_> No reason for it on an internal network
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22:31 | I might need to update my keys, or else the thin client wont work without me having to ssh to the server
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22:31 | <Ryan52> ldm (ltsp's display manager) only works with ssh.
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22:32 | <evilx_> hmm ok
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22:32 | <rjune__> !g
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22:32 | <ltspbot`> rjune__: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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22:34 | <alkisg> Ehm... guys... Am I the only one that sees porn links in www.nubae.com/logs ? =-O
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22:34 | nubae, ^^^ ???
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22:34 | <evilx_> that the only issue I have is it cant authicate with the server for the username and password
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22:35 | <Ryan52> evilx_: what version of ldm are you using?
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22:35 | <evilx_> there has to be away to use ldm without ssh
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22:35 | <Ryan52> evilx_, trust me, there isn't, I am one of the programmers for ldm...
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22:35 | the ssh commands are hard coded in.
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22:36 | <evilx_> I will have to get back to you on monday
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22:36 | it all at work
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22:36 | <Ryan52> okie doke.
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22:36 | <evilx_> if I switch to GDM or something it wouldnt require the ssh though right?
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22:36 | <Ryan52> no, it wouldn't.
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22:36 | <evilx_> That might be an idea
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22:37 | <Ryan52> why not just use ssh?
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22:37 | <evilx_> Is ssh just for user authenication, or is it for everything that talks back and forth?
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22:38 | for starters, right now the current server is Tricore Phenom and it has to handle 40 thin clients
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22:38 | I am not really sure if it will handle all those TC very well with dealing with the encrpytion
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22:38 | <Ryan52> everything that talks back and forth, though there is an LDM_DIRECTX option that makes it not use ssh for the X traffic.
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22:39 | <evilx_> I specified that as True
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22:39 | <Ryan52> did you look at the what the docs said about hardware requirements?
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22:39 | <evilx_> It still required that I login to the tc and ssh to the server
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22:39 | <Ryan52> there's a formula.
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22:39 | !docs
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22:39 | <ltspbot`> Ryan52: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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22:39 | <evilx_> yeah I did
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22:39 | <evilx_> I have a bigger system going into play, but I cant take it offline until I get this one up and working
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22:40 | this system has 4GB of ram and 3x2.2ghz cores
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22:40 | should be plenty
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22:40 | <Ryan52> ya.
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22:41 | <evilx_> Since all that going on with the thin clients if mail,web browser and open office
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22:41 | and sending out items to cups to get printed
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23:40 | <Ryan52> 0.o ltsp has 58 bugs in ubuntu.
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