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Channel log from 12 January 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:49 | <mascote> hi
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| 05:49 | I need some help... I have a internet server (IP 192.168.0.200) and my LTSP server is other computer (192.168.0.203). When the internet server and the LTSP server are turn on the X login at the client is OK, but when the internet server is turn off the X login don't work, just show at the client a gray screen and a X(point of the mouse). Why its occours? What I have to change to correct this problem? Thanks a lot.
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| 06:05 | <cliebow> Mascote: what is xserver set to in lts.cconf?
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| 06:06 | sounds like xdmcp is not running on the ltsp server ot xserver is wrong in lts.conf
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| 06:29 | <Envite> Hello all from Spain
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| 06:29 | Hola a todos desde España
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| 06:45 | <mascote> hi cliebow
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| 06:45 | thanks your answer
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| 06:45 | I was out and came back now!
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| 06:46 | <mascote> cliebow: the the xserver statement is auto ( XSERVER = auto )
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| 06:47 | cliebow: and the other statement is SERVER = 192.168.0.203
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| 07:00 | <mascote> I need some help... I have a internet server (IP 192.168.0.200) and my LTSP server is other computer (192.168.0.203). When the internet server and the LTSP server are turn on the X login at the client is OK, but when the internet server is turn off the X login don't work, just show at the client a gray screen and a X(point of the mouse). Why its occours? What I have to change to correct this problem? Thanks a lot.
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| 07:01 | <jammcq> you probably need to add your workstations to the /etc/hosts file
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| 07:06 | <mascote> jammcq: I already did this.
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| 07:10 | <mascote> jammcq: at the client, at text terminal, I whote "hostname -f" and the answer is: ws3
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| 07:11 | jammcq: in my /etc/hosts, at the LTSP Server, I have a line "192.168.0.3 ws3 ws3"
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| 07:11 | <jammcq> mascote: that doesn't really tell us anything
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| 07:11 | you have 2 servers on your local network? a LTSP server and a web server?
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| 07:11 | <mascote> jammcq: yes
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| 07:12 | <jammcq> ok, the LTSP server has 1 or 2 network interfaces?
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| 07:12 | <mascote> jammcq: 1
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| 07:12 | <jammcq> and how about the web server?
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| 07:13 | <mascote> jammcq: 2, one the internet link and another to local net
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| 07:13 | <jammcq> ok, what distribution are you using on both servers?
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| 07:13 | <mascote> jammcq: the LTSP and the Internet server are connect by a swicth
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| 07:13 | <jammcq> are the workstations plugged into the same switch?
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| 07:13 | <mascote> jammcq: yes
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| 07:13 | <jammcq> what distro?
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| 07:14 | <mascote> jammcq: LTSP=Red Hat EL4
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| 07:14 | <jammcq> on both?
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| 07:14 | <mascote> jammcq: Internet=Debian Sarge
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| 07:14 | <jammcq> ok
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| 07:14 | hmm
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| 07:14 | what version of LTSP ?
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| 07:15 | <mascote> jammcq: 4.2
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| 07:15 | I already use the LTSP from 3 years, from 3.4 version.
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| 07:18 | jammcq: I think the problem would be the dhcpd.conf, because the statement "options routers" was 192.168.0.200 (internet server) I changed to 192.168.0.203 (LTSP server), but the problem remain.
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| 07:18 | <jammcq> the thin clients really don't need the 'routers'. a thin client ONLY talks to the LTSP server
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| 07:18 | <mascote> jammcq: I just have 1 XDMCP server at my net, is the LTSP Server.
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| 07:19 | jammcq: ok, but I tried. ;-)
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| 07:19 | <jammcq> what do you have in lts.conf, for 'SERVER' ?
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| 07:19 | <mascote> jammcq: SERVER = 192.168.0.203
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| 07:21 | <jammcq> ok, on the LTSP server, try running this:
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| 07:21 | tcpdump -i eth0 port 177
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| 07:21 | and then reboot one of the thin clients
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| 07:24 | <mascote> [root@cpd3 etc]# tcpdump -i eth0 port 177
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| 07:24 | tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
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| 07:24 | listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
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| 07:24 | 11:21:11.691663 IP ws3.1024 > cpd3.tum.com.br.xdmcp: UDP, length 7
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| 07:24 | 11:21:11.795845 IP cpd3.tum.com.br.xdmcp > ws3.1024: UDP, length 59
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| 07:24 | 11:21:15.624188 IP ws3.1024 > cpd3.tum.com.br.xdmcp: UDP, length 98
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| 07:24 | 11:21:15.624387 IP cpd3.tum.com.br.xdmcp > ws3.1024: UDP, length 52
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| 07:24 | 11:21:15.624687 IP ws3.1024 > cpd3.tum.com.br.xdmcp: UDP, length 29
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| 07:24 | <jammcq> so, it's definately trying
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| 07:24 | <mascote> jammcq: what?
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| 07:24 | <Envite> I'm going home early today
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| 07:24 | bye all!
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| 07:24 | <jammcq> that shows that ws3 is trying to connect to the server
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| 07:25 | ok, try running this:
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| 07:25 | <mascote> jammcq: the client is connect.
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| 07:25 | <jammcq> did it work?
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| 07:25 | <mascote> yes, because the internet server is on!
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| 07:25 | <jammcq> oh
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| 07:25 | doh!
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| 07:25 | ok, when you get a chance, turn off the internet server, and run this:
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| 07:25 | <mascote> I have to do this whithout the internet.
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| 07:25 | <jammcq> tcpdump -s 1520 -w /tmp/tcpdump.out port 177
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| 07:26 | and while that's running, reboot ws3
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| 07:26 | and after 2 minutes, kill the tcpdump
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| 07:26 | <mascote> jammcq: ok
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| 07:26 | <jammcq> and email the /tmp/tcpdump.out file to jam@ltsp.org
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| 07:26 | <jammcq> I need to go eat my breakfast, and then drive to my office
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| 07:26 | but when I get the email from you, i'll take a look at it
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| 07:28 | <mascote> jammcq: ok, thanks a lot.
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| 07:28 | <cliebow_> mascote: solve it?
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| 07:28 | <mascote> jammcq: I'm going to sent you a email with the file.
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| 07:29 | <jammcq> ok, cool
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| 07:29 | <cliebow_> what was the deal?
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| 07:33 | <mascote> cliebow_: thanks, the jammcq is looking my problem, too.
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| 07:33 | cliebow_: not yet, problem persists.
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| 07:33 | <cliebow_> mascote: well then you should consider yourself blessed
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| 07:34 | <mascote> cliebow_: he he he
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| 07:35 | cliebow_: I love linux.
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| 07:36 | <cliebow_> arrrgggh..my ltsp server just went down for no reason..nothing in the logs..just croakerd at 5 last night
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| 07:39 | <jammcq> ok, gotta run to the office
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| 07:39 | see ya'll in a bit
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| 07:59 | <mascote> by
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| 07:59 | bye
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| 07:59 | thanks a lot.
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| 08:22 | <pscheie> jammcq: Does the ltsp kernel support Broadcom BCM4401 ethernet chips?
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| 08:22 | or rather, on my Dell laptop, I'm getting a kernel panic because it can't detect the ethernet chip
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| 08:22 | <jammcq> umm, yeah, it has broadcom support. I think it's the tg3 module
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| 08:23 | <pscheie> so I need to pass that as a kernel parameter for the client?
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| 08:23 | <jammcq> yeah, prolly
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| 08:29 | <budgee> jammcq: hey
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| 08:30 | jammcq: still not come right. think i might just shelve it and wait till it is release in XOrg 7.2 and then upgrade to LTSP 5
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| 08:30 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 09:36 | <Snerf> Got ltsp 4.2 and I am trying to get sound to work. I have a cmpci card, and I set that with SMODULE_01 = cmpci
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| 09:36 | but when my client boots up, it says that the cmpci module is not found, how do I add it?
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| 09:38 | <budgee> What card is it for
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| 09:39 | <Snerf> some weird name brand, bit it is cmpci compatable
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| 09:39 | <budgee> snd-cmipci
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| 09:39 | Try that.
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| 09:40 | <Snerf> any idea how I get that module tho, is there some way I need to install it?
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| 09:48 | <budgee> Snerf: sorry
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| 09:48 | Snerf: the module comes with my 4.2
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| 09:48 | you should have it?
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| 09:52 | <Snerf> wel, its not there. is it part of one of the packages, cuz I didnt install them all\
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| 09:53 | thanks tho.. I'll see what I can do
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| 10:21 | <efra> Morning everybody
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| 10:22 | <moquist> cliebow_: Two dual-core xeons = 4 CPUs...sorta.
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| 10:22 | <cliebow_> mornings
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| 10:22 | i saw the same thing on my trenton install
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| 10:22 | <moquist> ogra: Ugh. How much trouble will the edsadmin licensing stuff be?
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| 10:22 | * ogra woinders if vagrantc hides from him ... | |
| 10:22 | <ogra> moquist, upstream needs to add a note about the lgpl
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| 10:23 | or even the license directly
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| 10:23 | <cliebow_> moquist: i feel like i missed a day..or something
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| 10:24 | <ogra> Hi,
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| 10:24 | I've just rejected your edsadmin upload. It contains LGPL-ed files, but
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| 10:24 | there is no copy of the LGPL in the orig.tar.gz. Please fix and reupload.
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| 10:24 | - tfheen
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| 10:24 | moquist, ^^^^^^^
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| 10:25 | <vykarian> morning
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| 10:25 | <ogra> sadly i cant tweak the original source ... only the packaging, so upstream has to add the file
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| 12:41 | <g333k_work> is ltsp 5 ready to use at production?
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| 12:41 | hello everybody, is ltsp 5 ready to use at production?
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| 12:41 | <ogra> g333k_work, yes
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| 12:42 | in ubuntu edgy or debian etch
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| 12:43 | (not sure where the redhat port stands ...)
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| 13:02 | <g333k_work> ogra, ok thanks
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| 13:33 | <g333k_work> Hi, when running ltsp-build-client i receive this error about perl locales: http://pastebin.ca/314448 any clue?
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| 13:34 | <ogra> thats ok, dont worry
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| 13:35 | (the client doesnt set any locales, and doesnt need to ... )
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| 13:39 | <g333k_work> ogra, really? after running ltsp-build-client my ltsp is supposed to be ready to go?
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| 13:39 | <ogra> yep
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| 13:40 | if you followed the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall guide ...
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| 13:40 | <g333k_work> ogra, yep... I'jm following this guide
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| 13:41 | <ogra> good
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| 13:41 | <g333k_work> ogra, I'm really get used to ltspadmin, so its a big move for me
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| 13:41 | <ogra> we'll have a gui in the near future ... (hopefully i have it ready for feisty (7.04) )
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| 13:42 | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/
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| 13:42 | some debian guy wanted to make a curses version of it ... so we might even have a nice commandline gui at some point if needed
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| 13:44 | <g333k_work> ogra, wow! it sounds great
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| 13:45 | * ogra will be afk now ... bbl | |
| 13:46 | <Villarroel> problemm, tftps says "in.tftpd: tftp: client does not accept options" it takes long time to load a configuration file and finally none is loaded.
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| 14:29 | <g333k_work> To use PXE botting with LTSP5, is the sam way of ltsp 4.2?
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| 14:36 | <g333k_work> Maybe my question muts be: Is PXE booting avaiable for ltsp 5?
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| 14:38 | <sepski> g333k_work, yes
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| 14:39 | <g333k_work> sepski, can you help me to set it up?
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| 14:41 | <sepski> what do you have problem with ?
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| 14:43 | <g333k_work> sepski, I cant find the /tftpboot directory
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| 14:43 | sepski, I'm using tfptd-hpa
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| 14:43 | <sepski> /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 14:43 | <g333k_work> tftpd-hpa *
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| 14:43 | <sepski> and i think atftpd is better
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| 14:43 | atlest i know it works since that's what i use
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| 14:44 | <g333k_work> sepski, what should I put in the inet.conf file?
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| 14:44 | <sepski> this is contents from my /etc/defaults/atftpd OPTIONS="--daemon --port 69 --tftpd-timeout 300 --retry-timeout 5 --no-multicast --maxthread 100 --verbose=5 /var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 14:44 | <g333k_work> sepski, I use tftpd-hpa with ltsp 4.2 with no problems
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| 14:45 | <sepski> dont know what tftpd-hpa would want
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| 14:45 | didn't say it woudn't work. only that i dont know it much
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| 14:45 | <g333k_work> sepski, I'm talking about the file /etc/inetd.conf
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| 14:46 | <sepski> mine say tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --tftpd-timeout 300 --retry-timeout 5 --no-multicast --maxthread 100 --verbose=5 /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 14:48 | <g333k_work> sepski, ok thanks
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| 14:57 | <g333k_work> sepski, can you paste your /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf ?
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| 15:01 | <sepski> http://channels.debian.net/paste/5061
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| 15:02 | <W^^harddd^^> i have some usb mouting issues to discuess
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| 15:05 | <g333k_work> sepski, thanks
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| 15:06 | How do I tell ltsp to use another network interface?
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| 15:06 | ltsp 5 *
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| 15:10 | <sepski> g333k, the dhcp config file contains the ip address of the interface that the client will try to pxeboot from, and the ip address it will try to nfs mount
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| 15:10 | and ofcouse the dhcp file will only serve the configured interface
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| 15:16 | <g333k_work> sepski, because my server has two interfaces
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| 15:16 | <sepski> so have mine. but i only run the dhcp server on the one where it should run
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| 15:53 | <g333k_work> I receive a error from the client whe booting says: "TFTP Error - File nor found"
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| 15:53 | I receive a error from the client whe booting says: "TFTP Error - File not found"
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| 15:54 | and in my dhcp I have this line: filename "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 15:54 | what is wrong?
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| 15:56 | <ogra> why did you change the default dhcpd.conf ?
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| 15:57 | wipe the "/var/lib/tftpboot" from that line
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| 15:57 | <g333k_work> ogra, ok
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| 16:00 | ogra, it booted... but never get the X windows....there is a line: (initramfs)
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| 16:01 | <g333k_work> ogra, /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off
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| 16:03 | <ogra> is there an nfs error somwhere above ?
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| 16:03 | if so , try rebooting the server to make sure nfs is started rigtht ... thats should solve it (unless you changed /etc/exports)
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| 16:04 | <g333k_work> ogra, in /etc/exports I just have this line: /opt/ltsp *(ro,no_root_squash,async)
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| 16:04 | <ogra> fine
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| 16:04 | just leave the defaults, the files are usually set up right ...
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| 16:04 | <g333k_work> ogra, I think it must be /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 16:04 | <ogra> no
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| 16:04 | <g333k_work> or not?
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| 16:04 | ok
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| 16:04 | <g333k_work> then whats the problem?
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| 16:05 | <ogra> did you reboot the server ?
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| 16:05 | <g333k_work> ogra, yep
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| 16:06 | <ogra> "ps ax|grep nfs" shows nfsd running ?
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| 16:06 | <g333k_work> ogra, yep many
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| 16:07 | <ogra> hmm
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| 16:07 | sudo mount localhost:/opt/ltsp/i386 /mnt
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| 16:07 | does that return without errors and mount the dir in /mnt ?
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| 16:10 | <g333k_work> ogra, nop
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| 16:10 | ogra, there are many dirs mounted in /mnt
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| 16:11 | <ogra> ??
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| 16:11 | if you have already anything mounted there mout to anywhere else ...
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| 16:11 | <ogra> we need to see if nfs works ...
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| 16:12 | did you change more stuff in the dhcp config ?
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| 16:13 | apart from the fliename option ?
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| 16:13 | <g333k_work> ogra, I mean... after executing the line you told me, it mounted many dirs
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| 16:13 | <ogra> ah, ok
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| 16:13 | the unmount /mnt again
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| 16:13 | *then
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| 16:14 | nfs seems fine, looks like your dhcpd config is broken
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| 16:16 | (the shipped file is usually fine)
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| 16:21 | <g333k_work> ogra, I'm pointing the correct file right?
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| 16:21 | <ogra> where ?
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| 16:22 | you mean the filename option ? yes, else you wouldnt see the initramfs loading until the busybox shell comes up
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| 16:23 | hos does your root-path option look like ?
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| 16:23 | *how
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| 16:26 | <g333k_work> ogra, can you pastebin your .conf files for me?
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| 16:27 | <ogra> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1361/
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| 16:27 | (thats the unmodified default file btw ...)
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| 16:30 | oh207, indeed its not ...
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| 16:30 | ergh
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| 16:30 | replace "new" with i386
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| 16:31 | thats a change i made for a different kernel i tested ...
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| 16:39 | <g333k_work> ogra, are you talking to me?
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| 16:40 | ogra, I got it,....
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| 16:40 | <ogra> are any other people talking in here ? ;)
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| 16:40 | <jammcq> not me
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| 16:40 | <ogra> heh
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| 16:41 | <g333k_work> ogra, why the subnet range is from 20 to 250?
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| 16:41 | <ogra> jammcq, i wonder when vagrant will be around again i discovered some evil breakage he introduced ... i fixed it in ubuntu, but i think he wants it fixed in debian before they release etch
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| 16:42 | <sepski> ogra, what was that ?
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| 16:42 | <ogra> g333k_work, just beacues ... indeed you can use any range you like
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| 16:42 | sepski, ltsp-client-builder (the debian-installer part) has "--security-mirror none"
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| 16:43 | sepski, it was introduced by skole or debian-edu ... but i wonder if they ever tested it ...
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| 16:43 | <g333k_work> ogra, my serve ip is 192.168.43.254, when I try to reload dhcpd i receive this error: /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf line 3: subnet 192.168.43.254 netmask 255.255.255.0: bad subnet number/mask combination
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| 16:43 | <ogra> you end up with a line in your sources.list where the server name for security is set to nne ...
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| 16:43 | *none
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| 16:43 | <sepski> ogra, we use that when installing from the cd when the security mirror is unavailable
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| 16:44 | <ogra> well, it breaks ...
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| 16:44 | unless ubuntus apt is different to debians (which is very unlikely)
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| 16:44 | <sepski> indeed.
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| 16:44 | im just builing a chroot from the etch ltsp now, checking in a minute
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| 16:45 | <ogra> manage-mirror should either do a noop if thats set to none or we should drop it from the client-builder udeb
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| 16:46 | g333k_work, paste your /etc/ltsp/dhcpdconf anywhere ...
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| 16:46 | <g333k_work> ogra, ok
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| 16:46 | <ogra> /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf indeed
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| 16:47 | <g333k_work> ogra, http://pastebin.ca/314640
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| 16:47 | ogra, I know..
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| 16:48 | <ogra> subnet 192.168.43.254 ?
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| 16:48 | thats not a network address
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| 16:48 | change it to 192.168.43.0
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| 16:49 | also drop the group stuff for now ... make it look exactly like mine (apart from "new") with your ip address ...
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| 16:50 | if you got it running re-add the group stuff line by line to check whats breaking it ...
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| 16:50 | i dont think putting the filename inside the group statement is a good ised (i'm not sure though)
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| 16:50 | *ldea
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| 16:51 | *idea
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| 16:51 | (sigh)
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| 16:53 | <ogra> g333k_work, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1364/
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| 16:53 | try that one ...
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| 16:54 | <markit> forgive my ignorance, but would be possible have a thin client using wireless to connect to the server and boot?
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| 16:55 | <ogra> no ...
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| 16:55 | <markit> Imean, buy those low power boxes with PXE rom booting capability and
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| 16:55 | ah, no :(
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| 16:55 | <sepski> ogra, we use --mirror file:///cdrom --security-mirror none and we only get a single line in sources.list that saies deb file:///cdrom etch main local
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| 16:56 | <ogra> even though there is an image from ltsp 3.something with a handfull of wireless drivers included ... you can try it ... look on the ltsp wiki
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| 16:56 | <markit> ogra: you were relplying to me?
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| 16:56 | ok, thanks
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| 16:57 | <ogra> sepski, well, i get a security line as well, and it *only* happens if i run it in d-i (i.e. from the udeb) it doesnt happen if i run it manually in a installed system ...
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| 16:57 | sepski, oh, and when i tested my CDs the system was not connected to a network ...
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| 16:57 | both might influence it ...
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| 16:58 | <sepski> ogra, probably becouse we preseed it somewhat d-i ltsp-client-builder/build-client-opts string --mirror file:///cdrom --security-mirror none --components main,local --accept-unsigned-packages --dist etch --late-packages sitesummary-client,debian-edu-artwork,debian-edu-artwork-usplash --debconf-seeds /usr/lib/debian-edu-install/defaults.ltsp-chroot
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| 16:58 | <ogra> well ... did you test it directly from CD ?
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| 16:59 | while in d-i mode ?
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| 16:59 | <sepski> ogra, i only tested our debian-edu installer.
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| 16:59 | <sepski> but i do that 2-3 times a day.. :]
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| 16:59 | <ogra> actually i dont care much about it, i can fix it easily for ubuntu ... but you should check it twice to make sure it doesnt affect you as well
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| 17:00 | <sepski> i'd prefer that we do it in the same way
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| 17:00 | to avoide needless seperation
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| 17:00 | <ogra> i was just worried about your release ... i still have plenty of time to fix it before the next ubuntu release
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| 17:00 | <sepski> ill test the etch cd's too
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| 17:01 | <ogra> sepski, well, i'll just have my own manage-mirror plugin ... that wont do any harm and wont diverge us
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| 17:01 | (thats the reason we have separate plugin dirs ;) )
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| 17:01 | <sepski> im not that familiar with the codebase im afraid
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| 17:02 | <ogra> in any case i dont understand why you dont get the second entry ... there is no code in manage-mirror that would catch "none" as a keyword to avoid it adding that second line
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| 17:02 | <sepski> i guess the udeb is not working too well without debian-edu's preseedings then.
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| 17:03 | <ogra> well until i merged all your changes it worked flawless for three releases in ubuntu :)
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| 17:03 | it just started with the recent merges
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| 17:03 | <g333k_work> whre is the lts.conf?
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| 17:03 | in ltsp 5?
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| 17:04 | <ogra> its only used to override autodetection ...
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| 17:04 | <Egyptian[Home]> g333k_work: find / -name lts.conf -print
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| 17:04 | <ogra> so there is none by default
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| 17:04 | create one in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc if you think you need one
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| 17:05 | a list with valid values and an example file are in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/
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| 17:05 | <g333k_work> what's new in ltsp 5?
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| 17:05 | ogra, ok I thought it was in another locatioon than ltsp4
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| 17:06 | <sepski> ogra, i guess we wait for vagrant. is there a bug in debian BTS ?
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| 17:06 | <ogra> no, but it uses slightly different values in some places, so take a look at the value list
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| 17:07 | sepski, nope i just discovered it during a 36h iso test run where i didnt sleep i was to tired and to lazy to file a bug ....
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| 17:07 | g333k_work, http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5
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| 17:08 | g333k_work, ltsp5 is completely different to all former ltsp implementations
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| 17:09 | <ogra> and relies completely on distros implementing it (which didnt happen yet for others than ubuntu and debian)
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| 17:09 | <g333k_work> ogra, I dont know if its time to move on to ltsp5 now... or stay in ltsp 4.2
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| 17:09 | <ogra> redhat started a port but didnt show any success yet ... same for gentoo ....
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| 17:09 | suse isnt intrested in ltsp at all ...
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| 17:10 | <sepski> g333k_work, works as a charm here :)
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| 17:10 | could spend some time on speeding up the booting time tho. but that goes for regular linux's too
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| 17:10 | <cliebow> suse loses
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| 17:10 | <g333k_work> sepski, what I use in ltsp4.2 is: local devices and I'm planning to use local applications
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| 17:10 | <ogra> g333k_work, well, sbalneav switched his whole organization to edgy ltsp5 in october ... they use it in production for several hundret workplaces ...
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| 17:11 | <cliebow> and edgy rocks!
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| 17:11 | <ogra> and i know jammcq stared switching himself and his customers as well
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| 17:11 | <g333k_work> ogra, wow!
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| 17:11 | <cliebow> me too
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| 17:11 | <sepski> local devices is much nicer in ltsp5 with ltspfs instead of the hackisly samba implementations
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| 17:11 | <g333k_work> yep I'm using edgy here
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| 17:12 | <ogra> sepski, well, its painful if you urgently want xdmcp ...
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| 17:12 | <g333k_work> I'm using xfce (xubuntu), I installed student-control-panel to send messages to my clients, but the messages dont appear, why?
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| 17:12 | <ogra> g333k_work, student-control-panel uses dbus ... i'm not sure xfce does
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| 17:12 | <g333k_work> you must post the tricks for the old users of ltsp4.2, because ltsp5 is quite different
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| 17:13 | ogra, so how can I send popup messages to my clients using xfce?
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| 17:13 | <ogra> sbalneav was working on rewriting a lot of the ltsp.org docs ... but then got new software in his organization which made probs ... he's fixing it since weeks
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| 17:14 | <g333k_work> ok thats ok
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| 17:14 | <cliebow> sbalneav is up to his ears
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| 17:14 | <ogra> g333k_work, no idea ... its developed in gnome ... and i know it works in kde ... ask an xfce guy ...
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| 17:14 | <g333k_work> is there any xfce guy here???
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| 17:14 | lol
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| 17:15 | <ogra> g333k_work, there is a session script for s-c-p thats running a dbus listener in the users session ... if xfce doesnt use dbus it wont work
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| 17:15 | its /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80scp-client
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| 17:20 | <g333k_work> ogra, xfce guys just told me that xfce do use dbus
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| 17:20 | <ogra> right
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| 17:20 | then it should work
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| 17:20 | and you use xfce from a thin client ?
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| 17:21 | (it only works on thin clients)
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| 17:21 | <g333k_work> ogra, my clients are desktop pcs, I think celeron without hard disk
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| 17:22 | <ogra> it only works if you are logged in through an ltsp thin client via ldm ...
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| 17:22 | (beacuse its only designed for that purpose)
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| 17:24 | <g333k_work> ogra, O come on! I really need to send popup messages to my clients, is there another way?
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| 17:24 | ogra, but I see my client... I can disconnect it
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| 17:25 | <ogra> try commenting the following lines
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| 17:25 | if not os.getenv('LTSP_CLIENT'):
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| 17:25 | sys.exit(0)
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| 17:25 | in /usr/bin/scp-client
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| 17:25 | <g333k_work> ogra, where?
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| 17:25 | <ogra> in /usr/bin/scp-client
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| 17:26 | <g333k_work> ogra, let me try
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| 17:26 | <ogra> that will start the dbus listener in every session ... regardless if its an ltsp session or not
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| 17:27 | hmm, wait ... can you check if zenity is installed ? the popup is shown by zenity ...
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| 17:28 | <g333k_work> ogra, do I have to restart something?
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| 17:28 | <ogra> no
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| 17:28 | <g333k_work> ogra, well it doesnt work then
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| 17:28 | :(
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| 17:30 | <ogra> is zenity installed ?
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| 17:30 | <g333k_work> ogra, noup
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| 17:31 | intalling...
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| 17:31 | <ogra> great
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| 17:31 | tell it to cbx33 in #edubuntu, he maintains s-c-p :)
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| 17:32 | <g333k_work> ogra, ok thanks
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| 17:45 | <g333k_work> ogra, Can you help me setting up local applicantions on ltsp 4.2?
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| 17:46 | <ogra> g333k_work, not tonight anymore ... for 4.2 there is docs on the wiki btw ...
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| 19:28 | <g333k_work> does anybody has experience running local applications in ltsp 4.2? actually firefox
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| 19:34 | <g333k_work> oe maybe helping me to enable ssh access to a client?
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| 19:47 | <cliebow> i can help maybe with ssh access..
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| 19:58 | <mistik1> jammcq: I have a strong feeling I will no longer need vmware in my toolbox
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| 20:17 | <jammcq> mistik1: oh? did you find a new tool ?
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| 20:39 | <jammcq> PMantis: hey
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| 20:40 | <PMantis> Hey jammcq
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| 20:42 | <cliebow> ho
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| 20:43 | <jammcq> hey chuckie
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| 21:47 | <mistik1> jammcq: qemu is growing up
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| 21:48 | I think I'll install ltsp on my laptop and play with it a bit
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| 21:49 | <jammcq> cool
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| 21:49 | <mistik1> I have been using qemu in a very stable fashion for about a week now
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| 21:49 | 0.8.2 rocks
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| 22:02 | <andresmujica> Hello there, to anyone interested in using FL_TeacherTool in ubuntu
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| 22:02 | http://www.seaq.com.co/linux/Fl_TeacherTool/
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| 22:30 | <moquist> ogra: K. Hopefully Mark will be responsive. I'm guessing that his time will be the only issue; he seems friendly toward contributions and this is a small thing to ask.
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| 22:30 | ogra: (re edsadmin)
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| 23:04 | <mathesis> hi all
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| 23:04 | vagrantc: how are you vagrantc ?
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| 23:04 | *vagrantc: how are you ?
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