IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 29 April 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:40 | <rasmuson> Anyone knows how to get a list of installed deb packages sorted by install date?
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| 07:13 | <gvy> ugh, know how to do that with rpm
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| 10:04 | * gvy is away: I'm bussy | |
| 10:04 | <milosz> gvy: http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/
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| 10:04 | <gvy> milosz, thanks; mirroring @ ftp.linux.kiev.ua, ok?
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| 10:05 | argh, bzr dir :)
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| 10:06 | milosz, awfully sorry, could you lend a bzr command to pull it?
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| 10:06 | <vagrantc_> bzr get URL
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| 10:07 | <gvy> tnx vagrantc_
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| 10:07 | <vagrantc_> no problem :)
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| 10:08 | <milosz> got it?
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| 10:08 | it's a work in progress but I'm almost there
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| 10:08 | <gvy> Fetch phase 1/4
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| 10:08 | <milosz> i'm working on the way the algorithm to pick the best one
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| 10:09 | <gvy> might be interested in cluster load balancing algos?
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| 10:10 | <milosz> well what is comes down to really is multi-variable optimization
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| 10:10 | which is a whole area of math, but it's hard to come up series of steps that always leads to the optimial result
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| 10:11 | and because this isn't a job but a user, if we make a bad choice it's very evident to the user
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| 10:12 | <milosz> so i'm going to do kind of what jim suggested, i'll provide thresholds for memory,load, etc for the user to set
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| 10:12 | <gvy> generally users don't care though...
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| 10:12 | <milosz> and then on all resulting server that are not thrown away we'll try to pick one with least users
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| 10:13 | <gvy> you can pull anther trick: try to monitor user's session (ram/cpu utilization) via sysstat
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| 10:13 | <milosz> well in our application some machine can have no memory used by a hudge fluent process chewing up all 4 cores
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| 10:13 | <gvy> and use that data for further logins
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| 10:13 | Branched 516 revision(s).
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| 10:14 | <milosz> well that's not needed there is a server component (a daemon) that provides me that info that i already writen that's there
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| 10:15 | <gvy> sehr gut :)
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| 10:16 | <milosz> and the only thing the component does do right now is get the number of logged in users the rest of it is done
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| 10:18 | <vagrantc_> milosz: this is some sort of load balancer ?
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| 10:20 | <milosz> yeah
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| 10:24 | <vagrantc_> milosz: for LDM or xdmcp .. or ?
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| 10:26 | ogra: any suggestions one where to look for specs to subscribe to ?
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| 10:26 | ogra: or suggestions of which to subscribe to ?
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| 10:28 | <milosz> right now ldm
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| 10:32 | <vagrantc_> milosz: you have a branch somewhere?
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| 10:33 | <milosz> in future it'll be offered with more options
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| 10:33 | http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/
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| 10:33 | <vagrantc_> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/
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| 10:33 | <milosz> http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/ltsp-loadbalance/
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| 10:33 | <vagrantc_> :)
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| 10:34 | <milosz> i wrote all of it in python so it would not be a big hastle to get it upstream for any distro
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| 11:02 | * vagrantc_ grumbles about ltsp not migrating to testing due to the .udeb | |
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| 11:23 | <Q-FUNK> marek82: tere! are you located anywhere near Tallinn?
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| 11:23 | <marek82> yes i am
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| 11:24 | i live in tallinn
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| 11:24 | :)
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| 11:24 | <Q-FUNK> excellent. what thin client hardware do you use with LTSP?
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| 11:25 | <marek82> mosltly regular pc...
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| 11:25 | <Q-FUNK> ok
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| 11:25 | <marek82> pc, what got old a bit
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| 11:25 | latley i have been wrking to get it all runing under centos5 =)
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| 11:25 | wrks now to
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| 11:25 | <Q-FUNK> oho :)
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| 11:26 | <marek82> nicelyy
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| 11:26 | yay
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| 11:26 | had some minor difficultys
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| 11:26 | but its oky now
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| 11:26 | got some good help from here ;)
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| 11:26 | <Q-FUNK> :D
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| 11:54 | <milosz> okay, i got a basic server picker working
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| 11:54 | basicaly what i did is threw away all the ones not respondig ones... and picked a random one from the others
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| 11:54 | and in RL random works pretty well
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| 11:55 | there's some tunables for greater control but i didn't test that code path yet
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| 12:07 | <milosz> man, i realized that i use 2.5 modules/features in my code
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| 12:12 | <cliebow> milosz, not two..not three..just two and a half?
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| 12:38 | <milosz> 2.5 python
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| 12:39 | more like python 2.5
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| 16:39 | <cliebow> milosz hit me with stick if you like 8~)
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| 21:06 | <metztlixictli> se irule
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| 21:07 | hola vagrantc
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| 21:40 | <milosz> cliebow: only like what 5 hours later
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| 22:27 | <vagrantc> metztlixictli: hola
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