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| 11:39 | <alkisg> stgraber, highvoltage, mgariepy, ogra_: has anyone tried http://www.zareason.net/android/zatab/ubuntu-desktop-12.04-1-miniand.com.img.tar.gz ? Is it an Ubuntu image for the zatab?
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| 13:12 | <TheJuror> ello, anybody able to assist with audio/sound trouble on a thin client?
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| 13:16 | <gvy> yesterday's with hp tc or another one?
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| 13:19 | <TheJuror> yes, didnt get very far yesterday
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| 13:20 | I have figured out that there is indeed a diff between the sound cards of the t5570 and the t5520
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| 13:20 | <gvy> did snd_* modules get loaded for both?
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| 13:21 | <TheJuror> doing a lspci on the t5520 i can see that it is a Via VT8233/A/8235/8297 Audio Controller
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| 13:21 | yeh doing a lsmod I saw the modules being loaded
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| 13:22 | one moment I'll check again
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| 13:24 | yeh i see the via82xx and other modules like the ac97codecs being loaded
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| 13:26 | <gvy> snd-via82xx that is, right?
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| 13:27 | <TheJuror> well in lsmod i see only references to snd_via82xx
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| 13:29 | <gvy> ok
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| 13:29 | <TheJuror> but i recall an option in the lspci command that indeedshowed me snd-via82xx
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| 13:30 | <gvy> np, "_" and "-" are long interchangeable there
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| 13:30 | what's up with channel levels? (alsamixer -> Master, PCM)
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| 13:32 | <TheJuror> i can load that by simply using "alsamixer" command?
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| 13:41 | looking at the Edubuntu sound settings dialog i see something very odd... When the dialog lods, and i click on Settings, I see a new dialog with a few tabs and a volume control. The first tab "output" has aentry listed "Built in Analog Stereo".... After a few seconds it just dissappears from the list
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| 13:43 | And the little speaker top left of the Edubuntu desktop changes to a speaker with 3 dashes ---
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| 13:43 | top right.. not left
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| 13:48 | <gvy> dunno what they did, I'd start with alsamixer on the thin client's local console
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| 13:50 | <TheJuror> $ alsamixer
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| 13:50 | cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
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| 13:52 | <gvy> on both or on the problematic one?
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| 13:52 | <TheJuror> this happens on both
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| 13:53 | cat /proc/asound/cards gives me a correct result of the card
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| 13:53 | VIA8233 etc..
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| 13:54 | and aplay -l shows me the device is listed as playback device
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| 13:55 | oh hang on.... alsamixer works from the shell
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| 13:56 | i see the levels .. Master is at 81, PCM also 81
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| 13:56 | (on the t5520) that is not working
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| 14:00 | The master MM was zero.... is that the mono perhaps (internal mono speaker on the tc?)
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| 14:02 | <gvy> MM? try pressing "m" on that channel, might be just muted
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| 14:03 | <TheJuror> yeh indeed MM is now also a value
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| 14:03 | <gvy> mono is "Master M" on one of the mixers available from where I sit but there's not any hard standard I'm afraid
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| 14:03 | so it was muted. :)
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| 14:03 | <TheJuror> ok hm
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| 14:04 | how do i save this?
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| 14:05 | <gvy> I don't know if there are any means to manipulate mixer levels at shutdown/startup on edubuntu -- try rebooting and look if the mixer state is saved or reset
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| 14:06 | <TheJuror> ok one moment
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| 14:10 | no its muted again..
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| 14:11 | <gvy> then it's about either figuring out whether such a mechanism is somewhere but disabled (I'd google something like "restore alsa mixer levels")
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| 14:12 | ...or implementing some yourself -- e.g. by figuring out and adding appropriate amixer call to the thin client rootfs
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| 14:12 | I'm not exactly sure how it's done on edubuntu by now, probably remaking a squashfs
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| 14:13 | <TheJuror> ok thanks allot, i'll do a bit of googling
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| 14:13 | ok if I idle here?
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| 14:13 | <gvy> why, I'm usually lurking either :)
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| 14:13 | welcome
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| 14:36 | <TheJuror> ok think i am on to something. It looks like these two tc's cannot talk to the Pulseaudio server. when in GNome. If I open up Alsamixer in Gnome it opens a dialsog with no contents.....
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| 14:37 | If i do the same with for example the Pulseaudio volume control utility it opens up and states "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..."
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| 14:45 | * gvy is usually not that pleased to wait | |
| 14:51 | <alkisg> TheJuror: so you can hear sound locally with e.g. aplay?
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| 14:56 | <gvy> should be more audible after unmuting, and if the sound works on a bit other hw should be working either; my guess is it's now about either proper levels init or at least proper restoration
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| 14:57 | <alkisg> When pulseaudio doesn't see a card, or when it crashes, the sound applet volume level is zero
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| 14:57 | And not settable either - I think that's what TheJuror is seeing
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| 15:00 | <TheJuror> yeh when I use aplay from a terminal
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| 15:00 | it crashes with a message about not finding card 0
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| 15:01 | <alkisg> TheJuror: can you try that as root from local client shell?
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| 15:01 | !screen_02
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| 15:01 | <ltsp> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 15:02 | <TheJuror> ah, from a shell the aplay works fine once I unmute using alsamixer
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> Is pulseaudio running locally? ps aux|grep -i pulse
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| 15:04 | <TheJuror> problem i now have is that I cannot start the Gnome session if I have set a shell screen option in lts.conf (for example SCREEN_02=shell)
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> SCREEN_02=shell
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| 15:04 | SCREEN_07=ldm
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| 15:05 | <TheJuror> oh do I have to specify both
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| 15:10 | ok now have shell screen sorted
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| 15:11 | yes looks like pulseis running using ps
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| 15:11 | from the shell the audio looks to work fine with aplay
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| 15:13 | but from a Gnome terminal session it complains about not finding the card
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| 15:17 | <alkisg> TheJuror: do you have an .asoundrc or .alsarc for this user?
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| 15:17 | user@server:~$ echo .a*
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| 15:20 | <TheJuror> echo .a* only returns one entry
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| 15:20 | .adobe
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| 15:38 | in the shell window cat /proc/asound/modules returns the soundcard fine, but the same command in a gnome terminal lists nothing....
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| 16:05 | <alkisg> That's normal, since you're trying to see the sound cards of your server
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| 16:45 | <alkisg> stgraber, highvoltage, mgariepy, ogra_: after installing http://www.zareason.net/android/zatab/zatab-a-cm-10-20120713-UNOFFICIAL-zatab.zip I got an endless animated logo while the zatab boots...
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| 16:45 | Is there any key combination that would allow me to go to the recovery console and unbrick the device?
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| 18:26 | <gvy> alkisg, ouch :(
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| 18:40 | <alkisg> Yeah, sucks :-/
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| 18:40 | It was unusable with the stock ROM though, so I had to put a new one there...
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