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Channel log from 3 June 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:39 | <barni> hi all
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| 04:39 | i have FC6 and i tried to install Mplayer
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| 04:39 | but it has no ESD sound daemon support
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| 04:40 | what can I do?
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| 04:41 | <vagrantc> try running it with the esddsp wrapper
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| 04:42 | <barni> how can you explain me?
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| 04:42 | if i say mplayer -vo help
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| 04:43 | there is no esd
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| 04:43 | <vagrantc> so ...
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| 04:43 | esddsp mplayer <options>
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| 04:45 | <barni> if it's working is there any way to set up when i use mplayer that to be used with esddsp???
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| 04:45 | <vagrantc> write a wrapper script ...
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| 04:46 | <barni> how and where?
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| 04:46 | <vagrantc> #!/bin/sh
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| 04:46 | esddsp mplayer $@
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| 04:46 | put it wherever you want.
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| 04:50 | <barni> so, i can create a file and to put this there???
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| 04:50 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 04:53 | <barni> i have created in /usr/local/bin/mplayer.sh with the parameters which you gave
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| 04:54 | <vagrantc> so then you can run the command "mplayer.sh"
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| 04:54 | <barni> and it's not using the esddsp
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| 04:54 | <vagrantc> did it work when you ran it manually ?
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| 04:54 | <barni> but i don't want to call with command
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| 04:55 | i want to use the icon from teh "sound and video"
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| 04:55 | <vmlintu> barni: mplayer -ao help
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| 04:56 | <barni> yes, there is no ESD
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| 04:56 | <vagrantc> barni: so create an icon
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| 04:56 | <barni> and if is wanna to use mplayer mozilla plugin?
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| 04:57 | <vmlintu> you can't compile your own version?
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| 04:57 | <barni> yes, maybe
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| 04:58 | <vmlintu> at least the ubuntu versions have esd support compiled in
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| 04:58 | <barni> I have Fedora
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| 04:58 | <vmlintu> what audio output drivers does mplayer -ao help list?
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| 04:59 | <barni> oss, alsa,sdl,mpegpes,null,pcm
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| 05:00 | <vmlintu> so they have turned off all network sound protocols
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| 05:00 | <barni> seems like
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| 05:00 | <vmlintu> I'd compile my own version or use vlc
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| 05:01 | <vagrantc> i guess recent ubuntu uses pulseaudio + alsa so anything that uses alsa works properly.
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| 05:04 | <vmlintu> The easiest way to get media players working with firefox is to use MediaPlayerConnectivity extension: http://membres.lycos.fr/sethnakht/
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| 05:05 | with that you could also launch mplayer with esddsp
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| 05:13 | <barni> i tried to cimpile from source and i got this error :
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| 05:13 | BGR not supported, please contact the developers
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| 05:13 | FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
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| 05:13 | FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
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| 05:14 | what could be wrong?
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| 05:15 | * vagrantc would suggest contacting the developers | |
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| 10:05 | <charlie_> hi all
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| 10:07 | <vporo> vagrantc: you helped me with setting ssh-keys for separate application server. Could I bother you with it again because I was not able to set it up
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| 10:07 | <vagrantc> vporo: ok...
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| 10:08 | vporo: what do you have so far?
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| 10:09 | <vporo> I run the cat /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key.pub | sed -e 's,^,SERVER ,g' >
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| 10:09 | +SERVER.ssh_known_hosts
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| 10:09 | on nfs-server
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| 10:10 | and changed /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra
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| 10:10 | and run ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 10:11 | and just after doing that I thought that this can't be enough
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| 10:11 | <vagrantc> cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
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| 10:11 | <vporo> should I also copy ssh pub keys to the application server as well?
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| 10:12 | <vagrantc> where is /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra and what does it contain?
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| 10:12 | <vporo> It is on nfs-server
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| 10:13 | one line "192.168.2.13"
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| 10:13 | or should it be "192.168.2.13.ssh_known_hosts" ?
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| 10:13 | <vagrantc> cat /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra
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| 10:14 | <vporo> it is that one line I just typed
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| 10:14 | <vagrantc> should look something like
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| 10:14 | SERVERNAME ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEAzrM2msHSK3QE0CFUN .....
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| 10:14 | <vporo> oh
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| 10:15 | so I should insert SERVER.ssh_known_hosts into it?
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| 10:16 | <vagrantc> mv SERVER.ssh_known_hosts /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra
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| 10:16 | <vporo> ok
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| 10:16 | <vagrantc> but you probably want to change SERVER to be the ip address of the server
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| 10:16 | <vporo> yes
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| 10:16 | <vagrantc> but the filename is /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra
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| 10:17 | * vagrantc cosiders makeing the whole process much simpler | |
| 10:17 | <vporo> :)
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| 10:18 | <vagrantc> it was a quick hack to get *something* working
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| 10:18 | <vporo> is there any documentation available. That would help as well
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| 10:18 | ok, what then
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| 10:18 | so far I have not done anything to the application/login server
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| 10:19 | <vagrantc> the keys were from the application server, no?
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| 10:20 | <vporo> ok. I have separate nfs-server and application server
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| 10:20 | <vagrantc> where did you get the keys that you put into ssh_known_hosts.extra ?
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| 10:20 | <vporo> so I should take the keys from application server to nfs-server?
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| 10:21 | <vagrantc> the nfs-server keys get included automatically.
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| 10:21 | <vporo> from my nfs-server, sry, my bad
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| 10:21 | so I will fetch the keys from my apps-server
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| 10:22 | <vagrantc> so get rid of /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra, replace it with the keys from your application server, and re-run ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 10:22 | <vporo> roger
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| 11:14 | <vporo> vagrantc: works now, thanks
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| 11:14 | <vagrantc> vporo: good :)
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| 11:35 | <vporo> vagrantc: should usb-sticks work in feisty (ltsp5)
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| 11:35 | I have ltspfsd in chroot and ltspfs in application server
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| 11:36 | and I have enabled localdevices in lts.conf
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| 11:42 | <vagrantc> vporo: is your user in the fuse group ?
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| 11:44 | <vporo> nope
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| 11:44 | <vagrantc> add them to the fuse group
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| 11:44 | log out and log back in
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| 11:46 | <vporo> nice
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| 11:46 | works
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| 15:06 | <EversonCaratti> sorry by off topic, but i like a prescription of American typical food !
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| 15:06 | I am from brazil
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| 15:07 | <jammcq> hmm "American typical food" ?
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| 15:08 | <EversonCaratti> yes ! italian = pizza, american = ?
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| 15:09 | <jammcq> ummm, prolly Hamburgers, hot-dogs, steaks
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| 15:09 | <jammcq> sort of depends on what part of america
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| 15:10 | <EversonCaratti> jammcq, tks, this is true american food ? http://www.kids-cooking-activities.com/American-cooking.html
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| 15:11 | <jammcq> yeah, that looks pretty good
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| 15:12 | <EversonCaratti> jammcq, oh! fine !
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| 15:16 | <vagrantc> ah, america!
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| 15:16 | <jammcq> vagrantc: you still in Madrid?
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| 15:16 | <vagrantc> jammcq: yup.
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| 15:16 | jammcq: i leave thursday night.
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| 15:16 | <jammcq> somehow, I have a hunch you will enjoy Madrid more than Scottland
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| 15:16 | <vagrantc> that doesn't bode well.
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| 15:17 | <jammcq> how are you travelling?
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| 15:17 | * jammcq has never been to Scottland | |
| 15:17 | <jammcq> but I enjoyed Spain alot
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| 15:17 | or is that Scotland
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| 15:17 | <vagrantc> catch train to paris, train to calais, ferry to dover ... and then train and/or buses to scottland
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| 15:17 | * vagrantc can't spell anything north of london | |
| 15:18 | <jammcq> ah, trains. nice way to travel
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| 15:18 | <vagrantc> it's only like 14 hours from madrid to paris... sure ain't no 3 day long cross-country trip.
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| 15:19 | <jammcq> how's your french ?
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| 15:19 | <vagrantc> habla espanol?
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| 15:19 | <jammcq> heh
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| 15:19 | here's a tip for you. Start every conversation with 'Bon Jour'
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| 15:21 | <vagrantc> what's that gonna get me ?
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| 15:21 | * vagrantc should just act deaf and write numbers and city names | |
| 15:22 | <jammcq> vagrantc: if you start the converstation that way, the french people will be very nice to you. if you don't, then you'll get nowhere with them
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| 15:23 | * vagrantc considers it | |
| 15:23 | <jammcq> heh
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| 15:24 | <vagrantc> i hope to spend as little time as possible in french speaking lands...
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| 15:25 | * jammcq REALLY enjoyed paris last year | |
| 15:25 | <jammcq> way more than I expected to
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| 15:26 | * vagrantc doesn't have time to enjoy anything | |
| 15:26 | <vagrantc> except spain, but i'm fucking that up
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| 15:26 | <jammcq> oh?
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| 15:26 | stop and smell the roses dude
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| 15:27 | * vagrantc is homesick for cascadia | |
| 15:27 | <jammcq> ah
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| 15:28 | beautiful downtown cascadia
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| 15:45 | <vagrantc> hrm. my latest attempt at having a real progress bar in ltsp-client-builder .udeb failed
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| 15:46 | this whole stall at 50% and then proceed to 100% was annoying me
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| 15:46 | but alas.
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| 15:54 | <cliebow_> ahhh..Traaavel tp England..next Spring if my wife has any say..
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| 16:05 | <spiekey> hello!
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| 16:07 | i have a few old clients here...about 800MHz and 128MB Ram. But they have diffrent hardware/chipsets.
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| 16:07 | can i assigned a mac address a specific config?
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| 16:11 | <cliebow_> spiekey:sure
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| 16:12 | this in ltsp5 on ubuntu?or 6.2?
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| 16:12 | heh 4.2
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| 16:12 | 5 should "just: work
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| 16:12 | but boottime will be a litle slsow
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| 16:12 | <spiekey> is this in the wiki somewhere?
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| 16:13 | <cliebow_> must be...ltsp5?
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| 16:14 | <cliebow_> you can use the mac address in lts.conf
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| 16:14 | are you mixing ppc and i386?
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| 16:19 | <spiekey> nope, all i386
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| 16:19 | <jammcq> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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| 16:20 | <spiekey> ah, cool! thanks
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| 17:43 | <kaos01> hi, i like to use glx for my ltsp clients, how do i go about that ?
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| 17:49 | <cliebow_> 4.2?
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| 17:49 | or 5
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| 17:50 | in 4.2 prob
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| 17:50 | <kaos01> 4.2
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| 17:50 | <cliebow_> X_DEVICE_OPTION_01 through X_DEVICE_OPTION_10
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| 17:50 | Upto 10 device options can be specified for the video device. This is useful if the video chipset requires additional options to function properly.
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| 17:50 | <kaos01> yes but do i need to build it with lbe
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| 17:50 | <jammcq> no
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| 17:50 | <kaos01> the shared so that is
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| 17:51 | mmm
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| 17:51 | <jammcq> just set 'X_MODULE_01 = glx'
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| 17:51 | <kaos01> ok
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| 17:51 | <jammcq> that'll tell the Xserver to load the glx module
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| 17:51 | <cliebow_> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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| 17:52 | danke jammcq
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| 17:52 | <kaos01> yes but the glx module must exists, and i cant see the libglx.so
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| 17:52 | <jammcq> it should be there. we supply it in the ltsp packages
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| 17:52 | <kaos01> opps, sorry its tehre :)
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| 17:52 | cool
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| 17:52 | /ltsp-4.2/i386/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
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| 17:53 | ok, another question, i like to use LDAP for user information on the clients, any way to do this ?
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| 17:54 | <jammcq> the thin clients don't know anything (or need to know anything) about the users
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| 17:54 | if you use LDAP on the server, that's all you need
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| 17:54 | <kaos01> i thought they need for local apps to run
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| 17:54 | as one needs to SSH to the client, no ?
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| 17:55 | <jammcq> well, they'll need it if you are running local apps. What are you planning on running?
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| 17:55 | <kaos01> well, iam just toying around at the momment ...
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| 17:55 | <jammcq> but for local apps, alot of the needed stuff isn't packaged for you
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| 17:55 | go with server-side apps
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| 17:55 | it's way easy
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| 17:55 | <cliebow_> werent ragnar and eric working that a while ago...\
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| 17:56 | <kaos01> yes, i wanted to become familiar with lbe
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| 17:56 | <jammcq> you'd be better off becoming familiar with LTSP-5
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| 17:56 | LBE is obsolete
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| 17:56 | <cliebow_> all effort is going to ltsp5
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| 17:56 | <kaos01> mmm, ok but is ltsp5 awailable for fedora ?
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| 17:57 | <jammcq> a tarball of the Ubuntu and debian ltsp-5 is available that can be loaded on any distro
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| 17:57 | <cliebow_> we have an ubuntu tarball.that will work...it is still a workin progress
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| 17:57 | <jammcq> but there's not a Fedora specific ltsp-5 implementation yet
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| 17:57 | <cliebow_> you are quick1
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| 17:59 | <kaos01> thank for the help
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| 20:28 | <mistik1> jammcq: sorry man
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| 20:36 | <jammcq> heh
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| 22:35 | <joebaker> jammcq: Hi. are you up?
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