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Channel log from 20 February 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:33 | <mathesis> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: jai
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| 00:33 | hi
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| 03:34 | <erdinc> hi ogra
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| 05:24 | <cryptom> hi all, a few months ago I setup a ltsp server, its works well so far. Now, I realized, there is a new kernel installed in the ltsp server. How can I make sure the clients can also use a new kernel?
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| 05:25 | <sep> cryptom, depends on your ltsp version, i use ltsp-update-kernels in ltsp5
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| 05:27 | <cryptom> ok, I tried that, but I dont think it worked. I use ubuntu-server (edgy)
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| 05:29 | sep, no, I dont have ltsp5, can I get that with ubuntu packages?
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| 05:31 | sep, ltsp-server package 0.124
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| 05:37 | I saw that ltsp-update-kernels copies the kernel for /opt/ltsp/i386 to the tftp root. how do I put the current kernel in /opt/ltsp/i386?
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| 05:45 | <slipttees> hi all
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| 05:55 | <sep> cryptom, i guess you chroot into itm, and install it using the package tools there
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| 05:59 | <cryptom> sep, oh god, yes. Now I remember... first, I wanted to install all the software in the chroot... now I even forgot to install the most basic thing there... thanks
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| 07:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> buenas
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| 07:44 | <jammcq> g'morning
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| 07:45 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> oh forgot :)
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| 07:45 | g'morning
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| 09:05 | <Luis> jammcq?
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| 09:06 | I have a problem, can you help me?
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| 09:17 | <Luis> the DHCP server detect the request, respond with an IP, but the terminal do not recive it. What is the problem?
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| 09:56 | <mighty-d> hi, im having some problems in my thin clients, it seems i can't start firefox in two clients...
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| 09:57 | whenever firefox is running in a different user it states: "firefox is already running but its not responding..."
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| 10:45 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hey.. my ltsp 4.2 at debian works cool cool.. but have a little things to wrong
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| 10:45 | when i boot 1st time..
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| 10:45 | serve try to up the XWindoes (gdm)
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| 10:45 | and fail
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| 10:45 | so the process has been waiting...
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| 10:45 | my clients stay at gray screen
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| 10:45 | when i accept the error of X
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| 10:46 | then server go to login
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| 10:46 | aat shell
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| 10:46 | ...then my clients can join to gdm
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| 10:46 | how can i fix this fails? when start server not run gdm....
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| 10:49 | <irule> sh3mh4mf0r4sh install KDM and configure that one to manage greeters
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| 10:52 | <petre> greetings
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| 10:53 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> but i with kdm?
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| 10:53 | i use gdm! :|
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| 10:53 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i think to gdm can't load driver
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| 10:53 | and that put stand by process when server start
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| 10:53 | any way i type ENTER | TAB | ENTER | ENTER and works all fin ..
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| 10:54 | fine*
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| 11:03 | <iloadmin> hi all
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| 11:03 | I am using ubuntu edgy eft
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| 11:12 | <CaPRiCorN^80> hi petre
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| 11:12 | <petre> hi CaPRiCorN^80
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| 11:12 | <CaPRiCorN^80> how r u ?
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| 11:13 | <petre> tired: was up until 2am applying patches on some Sun boxes
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| 11:13 | * petre is not nocturnal | |
| 11:14 | <CaPRiCorN^80> ok
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| 11:14 | <petre> but, with the help of #ltsp, I got my sound issues resolved!
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| 11:14 | <CaPRiCorN^80> but dont leave . i m also reall tired but got here to ask u abot that sound thing
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| 11:14 | well right sun really make life hell some times
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| 11:14 | <petre> I'll try, though I'm no sound guru
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| 11:15 | <CaPRiCorN^80> as u told about lsmod
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| 11:15 | i did that in office and got output i.e
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| 11:15 | <petre> did it show a sound module having been loaded?
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| 11:16 | <CaPRiCorN^80> wat i did was lsmod | grep snd
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| 11:16 | n this is the output
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| 11:16 | lsmod | grep snd
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| 11:16 | snd_pcm_oss 51488 0
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| 11:16 | snd_pcm 87560 9 snd_pcm_oss
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| 11:16 | snd_time 24452 1 snd_pcm
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| 11:16 | snd_page_alloc 10504 1 snd_pcm
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| 11:16 | snd_mixer_oss 17980 1 snd_pcm_0ss
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| 11:16 | snd 53120 snd_pcm_oss , snd_pcm , snd_timer , snd_mixer_oss
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| 11:16 | soundcore 10336 2 snd,sound
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| 11:17 | <petre> was there anything for snd_ac97_codec?
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| 11:17 | <CaPRiCorN^80> and
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| 11:18 | <petre> That's where I see my driver listed
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| 11:18 | <CaPRiCorN^80> lsmod | grep sound
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| 11:18 | sound 80016 1 uart 401
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| 11:18 | soundcore 10336 2 snd,sound
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| 11:18 | well i pasted all wat i got using lsmod
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| 11:19 | <petre> I don't see anything that looks like the base driver, just the stuff that depends on the driver
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| 11:19 | OTOH, I'm not sure if that stuff would load if a driver were not present
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| 11:20 | did you see any errors related to sound when the client was booting up?
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| 11:20 | <CaPRiCorN^80> but as i told u when i didnt have pci card n when i tried to run wav or mp3 it gave me error . but now i can play sounds using realplayer but cannot hear it
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| 11:24 | <petre> do you hear sounds played via esdplay?
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| 11:24 | <CaPRiCorN^80> no i can't hear it
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| 11:25 | its just the player who played music
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| 11:26 | <mistik1> petre: did everything work out for you last night?
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| 11:26 | <petre> mistik1: yes!
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| 11:26 | thanks for your help
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| 11:26 | <mistik1> np
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| 11:26 | <petre> your suggestions to put stuff into the rc.sound file got me looking at it
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| 11:26 | and that's when I noticed there was stuff missing.
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| 11:26 | <CaPRiCorN^80> petre: wat u suggest
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| 11:27 | <CaPRiCorN^80> i dont know wat to do :(
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| 11:27 | <petre> turns out, in Gadi's oss-alsa sound package, the rc.sound script never got copied over for some reason
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| 11:27 | once I put that into place, everything worked.
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| 11:28 | everything had worked when I put those pieces in you suggested, but I wanted to know why they were automatically working
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| 11:28 | since it worked on my k12ltsp 5 box
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| 11:28 | I probably just didn't pay close enough attention during Gadi's install script
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| 11:29 | CaPRiCorN^80: can you boot a knoppix disk on the client?
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| 11:29 | knoppix has great hardware detection
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| 11:29 | if sound works with that, see what driver it's using
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| 11:30 | then look for that in etc/audiolist
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| 11:30 | <CaPRiCorN^80> hmm .. ok i will do that tomorrow
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| 11:30 | <petre> actually, I think what you have to do is run lspci and lsmod under knoppix
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| 11:31 | to get the right info
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| 11:31 | <CaPRiCorN^80> u were saying some thing about /tmp/info/SOUND .
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| 11:31 | <petre> that just shows if sound is enabled in lts.conf
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| 11:31 | <CaPRiCorN^80> yes
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| 11:31 | i did check that its cat /tmp/info/SOUND n its output was Y
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| 11:32 | <petre> then you don't need to worry about /tmp/info/SOUND anymore
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| 11:32 | <CaPRiCorN^80> petre: u using k12ltsp fedora distrobution ?
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| 11:32 | <petre> yes
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| 11:32 | <CaPRiCorN^80> did u ever face usb mouting problems ?
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| 11:32 | <petre> yes, but I think it was with an earlier version of ltsp 4.2
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| 11:33 | later releases fixed the problem I had
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| 11:33 | <CaPRiCorN^80> which version u are using now ?
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| 11:33 | <petre> k12ltsp 5 and 6
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| 11:33 | just started working on setting up 6 on new laptop
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| 11:34 | <CaPRiCorN^80> k12ltsp 5 and 6 ??? ... i m asking u ltsp version ?
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| 11:34 | <irule> guys I installed 1 linux server for 20 X terminals that all rdesktop a windows server, it seems the traffic is all going through linux and I can see a very slow refresh rate once X temrinals are in a remote windows desktop session, is it possible to install more network cards connnected to the same router and make XDMCP listen on the aditional cards to distribute the load?
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| 11:34 | <petre> ltsp 4.2.4
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| 11:35 | I think that's the latest release in the 4.2.x series
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| 11:35 | <irule> is there a method to upgrade from 4.2.2?
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| 11:35 | <sepski> irule, instead of using the thinclients to connect to the linux server and running rdesktop from there, use rdesktop on the clients directly.
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| 11:35 | <irule> as a local app?
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| 11:35 | <sepski> yeah
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| 11:36 | <irule> great idea, thanks
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| 11:36 | <CaPRiCorN^80> petre: u know my clients really stuck by usb problems like when they insert there usb . usb icons do appear but it show some old data etc
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| 11:37 | <petre> yeah, usb is great most of the time, but sometimes acts a bit weird
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| 11:37 | sometimes = different hardware and usb sticks
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| 11:38 | <petre> best thing to do is follow the local device checklist *very carefully*
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| 11:38 | <CaPRiCorN^80> well my all clients got the same usb's but still they face problem . its not that usb dont mount its the static data . like if they copy some data today they dont see it tomorrow only older data will be there
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| 11:38 | i did follow that
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| 11:38 | one more thing
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| 11:39 | wats your echo $DISPLAY output ?
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| 11:40 | <petre> ws001.ltsp:0.0
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| 11:41 | <CaPRiCorN^80> right
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| 11:41 | n wats the output of hostname ?
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| 11:42 | <petre> k12ltsp
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| 11:42 | but hostname is showing the server's hostname
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| 11:42 | <CaPRiCorN^80> no it should be ws001
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| 11:43 | run hostname in shell
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| 11:43 | <petre> if I Ctrl-Alt-F2 over to the client's command prompt, and run hostname, it says ws001
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| 11:43 | <CaPRiCorN^80> ok
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| 11:43 | well i got the same thing
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| 11:43 | <petre> but there is no $DISPLAY defined at the command prompt level
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| 11:43 | <CaPRiCorN^80> but sbleave said it should the same in both cases
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| 11:45 | echo $DISPLAY n hostname show the same output i.e ws001
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| 11:45 | <petre> hmm, not sure about that
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| 11:45 | he's the expert
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| 11:45 | <CaPRiCorN^80> yes
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| 11:46 | <petre> he wrote it
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| 11:46 | <CaPRiCorN^80> but i have seen the same output of echo$DISPLAY on k12ltsp FAQ
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| 11:46 | it means it work like this on k12ltsp
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| 11:47 | as i m using ltsp version 4.2 so how can i update it without disturbing the existing settings ?
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| 11:47 | <petre> not sure
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| 11:48 | are you using k12ltsp?
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| 11:48 | <CaPRiCorN^80> yes
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| 11:48 | <petre> which version
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| 11:48 | <CaPRiCorN^80> k12ltsp 5 n 6 confused me when u said that .. i m not sure which k12ltsp using but it fc5
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| 11:48 | k12ltsp 5 n 6 confused me when u said that .. i m not sure which k12ltsp using but its fc5
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| 11:49 | <petre> that would be k12ltsp version 5
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| 11:49 | <CaPRiCorN^80> ok
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| 11:49 | <petre> the version parallels the version of fedora being used
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| 11:49 | <CaPRiCorN^80> ok
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| 11:49 | i think u told me that u are using version 6 ?
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| 11:50 | <petre> I've got both versions, running on differen boxes
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| 11:50 | <CaPRiCorN^80> ok
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| 11:50 | <petre> but usb has worked fine on my k12ltsp 5 box
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| 11:50 | <CaPRiCorN^80> but some times creates problem on mine
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| 11:51 | <petre> the problems I was having were related to getting double icons, as I recall
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| 11:51 | <petre> and wanting to block out floppy drives from appearing since I use etherboot floppies
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| 11:51 | <CaPRiCorN^80> ok
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| 11:52 | <CaPRiCorN^80> i told u mine now the problem is almost solve . i did that fuse group settings
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| 11:52 | wats ur ls -l /dev/fuse output ?
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| 11:52 | <mistik1> petre the new sound expert ;)
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| 11:53 | <petre> no, petre the new sound refugee
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| 11:53 | <mistik1> ha, no way, You get to solve all the sound issues now
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| 11:53 | * petre REALLY wants the gstreamer & pulseaudio stuff to work and become commonplace | |
| 11:53 | <mistik1> Best way to learn is to teach ;-)
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| 11:54 | <petre> oh, I know that, that's why I try to jump in even where I don't know what I'm doing
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| 11:54 | plenty of opportunity for that :-)
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| 11:54 | <mistik1> sure thing
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| 11:54 | <CaPRiCorN^80> petre: wats ur ls -l /dev/fuse output ?
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| 11:55 | <petre> crw-rw---- 1 root fuse 10, 229 Feb 14 08:33 /dev/fuse
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| 11:55 | <CaPRiCorN^80> hmm
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| 11:55 | ok
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| 11:57 | <petre> brb
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| 11:57 | <CaPRiCorN^80> can paste me your lts.conf sound settings of thin station ?
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| 11:57 | like ws001
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| 11:58 | like for ws001
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| 12:06 | <GRAHAM> Hi,
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| 12:07 | <CaPRiCorN^80> hi
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| 12:08 | <GRAHAM> when i try and boot a client it works fine until modprobe, then i just get transmit time outs after it tried to detect the mouse
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| 12:09 | <CaPRiCorN^80> hmm . sorry cant help u
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| 12:09 | no idea
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| 12:19 | petre: u back ?
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| 12:34 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 12:34 | <CaPRiCorN^80> hiye
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| 12:48 | <CaPRiCorN^80> w.b petre
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| 12:49 | <petre> hmm, I keep killing my xchat sessions on this new laptop
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| 12:55 | <CaPRiCorN^80> wow
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| 12:55 | which new laptop u got ?
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| 12:56 | <petre> Toshiba U205-S5057
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| 12:56 | 1GB RAM, dual core, 160GB disk
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| 12:56 | <CaPRiCorN^80> price ?
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| 12:56 | <petre> 4 pounds
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| 12:56 | $1150 plus tax
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| 12:57 | <CaPRiCorN^80> nice
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| 12:57 | my too is broken n i m also thinking to get new one
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| 12:57 | <petre> I bought a three year warranty from the local dealer for $200, so total was about $1425
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| 12:58 | <petre> I wanted something powerful enough to act as a LTSP server for demos
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| 13:00 | <CaPRiCorN^80> oh yes i msg u .. can u tellme your sound settings of lts.conf
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| 13:00 | n also which thin clients u r using ?
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| 13:00 | <petre> I've got nine partitions so far (Windows takes up two or three) for different distros
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| 13:01 | I'm using some Dell Latitude laptops as clients, plus some old desktop machines
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| 13:01 | nothing special in my lts.conf file
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| 13:01 | <knight> hi all
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| 13:01 | <CaPRiCorN^80> i mean for any specific thin station u did any settings ?
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| 13:02 | <knight> what command can I use instead of mknbi for ubuntu
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| 13:02 | <CaPRiCorN^80> like i pasted u yesterday for my ws117
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| 13:03 | <petre> no, I don't have any settings for specific terminals ATM
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| 13:03 | <CaPRiCorN^80> then u r lucky that ur sound is working
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| 13:03 | <petre> that may change as I've noticed that some ISA cards I have that used to work are not working now
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| 13:05 | <CaPRiCorN^80> hmm
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| 13:05 | <knight> anybody know of the alternative to mknbi command in ubuntu
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| 13:06 | <CaPRiCorN^80> knight: #ubuntu
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| 13:09 | <mistik1> Do you guys think there are many people running i386 as thin-clients?
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| 13:11 | <CaPRiCorN^80> yes
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| 13:11 | <knight> yup
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| 13:11 | <CaPRiCorN^80> but not i386 . we are using 400 Mhz pI
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| 13:11 | <mistik1> 386?
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| 13:11 | <cliebow> mistik1:you mean rather than ppc?
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| 13:12 | <mistik1> vs 486 586 686
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| 13:12 | <petre> mistik1: not so much any more
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| 13:13 | <cliebow> hmm.we are pretty downwardly mobile..and draw the line at p1
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| 13:13 | <petre> 386 works for command line terms but not gui
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| 13:13 | <jammcq> I think 486 is the lowest you need to worry about
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| 13:13 | <petre> I've got a p133 I use for demos
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| 13:13 | got a 486 too, but video is a bit choppy
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| 13:14 | <mistik1> jammcq: which is what I was thinking
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| 13:14 | <jammcq> the reason you need to stick with 486, is cuz lots of low-end processors like the SiS chips are actually 486's with some additional stuff
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| 13:14 | <petre> interesting
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| 13:15 | <jammcq> the aren't really 486's, but they don't support all of the instructions of a 586, so we can't use 586 as the lowest cpu to support
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| 13:16 | <petre> would there be any benefit to making the 586 the lowest supported cpu?
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| 13:17 | <jammcq> 586's contain some better instructions that can improve performance, but we can't do that, cuz of the SiS processors
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| 13:17 | and there's alot of thin clients out there using those
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| 13:17 | <petre> right, I'm not advocating such a standard
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| 13:18 | I was just wondering what the benefit would be, if any, if 586 was the bottom rung
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| 13:18 | <erdinc> hi jammcq
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| 13:18 | <jammcq> hey erdinc
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| 13:33 | <mistik1> jammcq: well hopefully with MueKow we will see may arch's supported and subarch
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| 14:22 | <iloadmin> I am having errors on dhcp
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| 14:22 | <erdinc> like?
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| 14:22 | <iloadmin> not starting
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| 14:22 | on ubuntu
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| 14:22 | <erdinc> checkout /var/log/syslog
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| 14:22 | what it says?
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| 14:24 | <mistik1> haha
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| 14:24 | <iloadmin> Feb 20 15:18:46 stpaul dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
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| 14:24 | <mistik1> Funny how things become so much clearer after a bit of sleep
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| 14:24 | <erdinc> you got the problem iloadmin :)
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| 14:25 | <iloadmin> ok
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| 14:25 | lol
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| 14:27 | <GRAHAM> when i get to modprobe on the client i get problems with transmit time out, then kernel panic. anyone any ideas
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| 14:27 | <iloadmin> how do I do that
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| 14:28 | <erdinc> http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~erdinc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 14:28 | take a look at this
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| 14:28 | <iloadmin> I made some changes
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| 14:28 | on mine
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| 14:28 | <mistik1> DO you have an interface up with the subnet configured in dhcpd.conf?
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| 14:29 | <erdinc> mistik1 he didnt :)
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| 14:29 | <mistik1> erdinc: I would not think so
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| 14:29 | for the error
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| 14:29 | <erdinc> there is no interface assigned for dhcp
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| 14:29 | he should do that
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| 14:29 | <iloadmin> yupo
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| 14:30 | <erdinc> he got more than one eth
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| 14:30 | <iloadmin> yes I do
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| 14:38 | <erdinc> ubuntu should have sysconfig or something like this
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| 14:38 | you should set like: dhcpd_ifaces="eth1"
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| 14:39 | <iloadmin> ok
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| 14:39 | my question is'
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| 14:39 | <iloadmin> is there something to setup the dhcp for an interface
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| 14:40 | <erdinc> or you can setup you subnet same with your interface
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| 14:40 | in this case dhcpd will be working on this interface
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| 14:44 | <iloadmin> ????
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| 14:45 | I am trying to paste the conf file on the paste bin
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| 14:45 | how do I do that
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| 14:57 | * erdinc bye aLL.. | |
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| 14:57 | <aaron> What's the numberone cause for X to not load after the thin client booted
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| 14:58 | (it has started before, but somebody else changed the machine)
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| 14:58 | (and I have to figure it out.. remotely)
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| 15:36 | <knitoperu> hi to everybody!
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| 15:37 | I have an old xcel2000 motherboard that has in his bios boot options a "Network" one
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| 15:37 | but It has not an internal lan card
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| 15:37 | I've put an external LAN card
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| 15:38 | I wanto to make the Network option works
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| 15:38 | <knitoperu> Anyone knows if it's possible?
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| 15:40 | <bricode> knitoperu: What type of external lan card?
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| 15:41 | <knitoperu> It's not an "external one", It's a not built in one
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| 15:41 | <knitoperu> an usual PCI nic
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| 15:41 | <bricode> You should look at etherboot.
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| 15:42 | knitoperu: It can add a ROM to the PCI nic to allow it to network boot.
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| 15:42 | <knitoperu> the question is how I tell the motherboard to boot from a PCI slot
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| 15:43 | <knitoperu> Ok, then The motherboard Network option, make that the motherboard looks for a boot rom?
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| 15:44 | <bricode> knitoperu: I think so, but am not sure.
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| 15:44 | <knitoperu> I have some motherboards with PXE boot and built-in NIC that boot from network
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| 15:44 | but It could not be the case
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| 15:45 | I Understand
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| 15:45 | Where and what I need to look, to know what is missing?
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| 15:46 | <bricode> knitoperu: You can build your own PXE boot utilities at http://rom-o-matic.net/5.4.2/
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| 15:47 | knitoperu: One option is to replace the ROM on the PCI nic (if it does not PXE boot already).
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| 15:47 | knitoperu: Another is to create a boot floppy or boot CDROM.
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| 15:48 | <knitoperu> I know it, I'm trying to boot from a rom thing and not from floppy or cd (triying to kiss)
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| 15:49 | Ithink that I have conffused network boot capability with boot rom NIC capability
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| 15:49 | I need to try with a boot rom NIC
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| 15:49 | <bricode> knitoperu: Do you know what type of PCI card it is? Do an lspci -v
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| 15:52 | <knitoperu> I dont have how to boot in it right now
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| 15:52 | <knitoperu> I will find a cdrom and a live-disk to
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| 15:52 | what I need to look into lspci -v?
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| 15:55 | <bricode> knitoperu: It will tell you the chip that is on the card.
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| 15:55 | knitoperu: Alternatively you can just look at the chip on the card.
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| 15:56 | <knitoperu> is a vt-6105
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| 15:57 | and I have an empty boot rom slot
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| 15:57 | That's the problem
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| 15:58 | I think That I need the boot rom chip, the NIC's software to let it check for the boot rom
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| 15:58 | AND the network boot option in the motherboard
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| 15:59 | I need all them
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| 16:00 | I've suposed that only motherboard's network boot capability was enough
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| 16:02 | Thanlyou for ur Time!!
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| 16:23 | <cliebow_> knitoperu: lspci will tell yuou what slot it is in lspci -n wil gigve you pci id..that is what you need
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| 16:37 | <petre> shouldn't a file moved to a directory with 4775 permissions end up with the same group as the directory?
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| 16:38 | copying the file seems to work this way (as desired) but moving a file seems to keep the original group
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| 16:38 | is this normal?
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| 16:38 | (yeah, this isn't really a LTSP question, but it's in regard to an LTSP site)
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| 16:40 | <cliebow_> petre: is the folder setgid?
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| 16:40 | <petre> yes
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| 16:40 | that's what the 4 does
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| 16:41 | oh, wait, that should be 2775
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| 16:41 | well, ls on the directory shows drwxrwsr-x
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| 16:42 | I've used this for years to keep a group's shared files writeable by all
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| 16:42 | <cliebow_> id have to looka t one o mine..
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| 16:42 | <petre> but on my fc6 system, moving a file preserves the original group
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| 16:44 | <cliebow_> drwxrws---
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| 16:45 | in my case user i s owner and k2 is group
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| 16:46 | <petre> if you copy a file into that shared directory, it should have the new group assigned to it
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| 16:46 | but if you move a file, it keeps the same group, usually the private group of the user
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| 16:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hey have a realtek8139D
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| 16:46 | what room a tic driver have to copy to fd0?
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| 16:47 | <petre> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: get the universal boot floppy
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| 16:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> where is that universal?
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| 16:47 | <cliebow_> well chances are its pci ends with 8139..look in rommatic
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| 16:48 | <petre> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: ftp://k12ltsp.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_floppy/
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| 16:50 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> petre: that driver it's same cat file > /dev/fd0?
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| 16:50 | <petre> yes
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| 16:50 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> thanxs
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| 16:51 | <cliebow_> etter yet dd if=something of=/dev/fd0
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| 16:51 | <petre> why is dd better than cat?
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| 16:52 | <cliebow_> well long ago i had probs..and jammcq recommended same
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| 16:54 | <petre> okay; I've done it both ways, couldn't really tell any diff
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| 16:54 | perhaps I just got lucky
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| 16:55 | <cliebow_> well..that wAS a long time ago..
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| 16:56 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ohh works cool!
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| 16:56 | but when start X
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| 16:56 | the video make #@^^$%@!*$&GUIU&$%^f55#
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| 16:57 | :S
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| 16:57 | <cliebow_> x is another problem altogether..
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| 16:57 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> video drivers problem?
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| 16:57 | <cliebow_> yes for sure..is that an intel board on the client?
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| 16:57 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yes
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| 16:58 | <cliebow_> and ltsp-4.3?
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| 16:58 | 4.2?
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| 16:58 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> no.
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| 16:58 | 4.2
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| 16:58 | <cliebow_> set xserver=i810
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| 16:58 | <cliebow_> for that client
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| 16:58 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> is global
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| 16:58 | <cliebow_> a guess..
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| 16:58 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> for default
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| 16:59 | i reboot
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| 16:59 | and now out the gray X
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| 16:59 | <cliebow_> the client
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| 16:59 | ok gray x..means xdmcp ix not enabled..
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| 16:59 | !gray x
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| 16:59 | <ltspbot> cliebow_: Error: "gray" is not a valid command.
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| 16:59 | <cliebow_> !grayscreen
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| 16:59 | <ltspbot> cliebow_: "grayscreen" is No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen#GDM
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| 16:59 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> noo
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| 17:00 | <cliebow_> noo?
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| 17:00 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> my laptop boot cool with gdm
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| 17:00 | ok!
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| 17:00 | <cliebow_> set?
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| 17:00 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> XF86CONFIG_FILE = xorg.conf
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| 17:00 | <cliebow_> ???
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| 17:02 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> works now!
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| 17:02 | ;)
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| 17:03 | <cliebow_> Cool...chalk one up for petre!
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| 17:04 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> was my gdm proceess agasin at standby
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| 17:04 | i try to test now
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| 17:04 | with runlevel server at 3
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| 17:04 | and lts.conf
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| 17:04 | say default
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| 17:04 | runlevel = 5
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| 17:04 | :|
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| 17:05 | <cliebow_> NOT runlevel!
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| 17:05 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> so?
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| 17:05 | <cliebow_> ohhh for server
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| 17:05 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> :P
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| 17:05 | read ^
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| 17:05 | ;)
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| 17:08 | <petre> what did I do? (I stepped away for a bit there)
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| 17:09 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> check this y explain my trouble
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| 17:09 | http://pastebin.ca/365423
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| 17:09 | my suggest of runlevel tu ltsp and client runlevel 5
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| 17:09 | not works
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| 17:09 | keep going have same error of gdm
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| 17:11 | so?
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| 17:11 | <cliebow_> there IS no runlevel in 4.2 client use screen_01
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| 17:11 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i use screen01
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| 17:11 | <cliebow_> screen_01=shell
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| 17:11 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhm
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| 17:12 | i use only screen_01=starx
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| 17:12 | <cliebow_> screen_01=startx
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| 17:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i try other thing ;)
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| 17:13 | <petre> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: is your server at runlevel 3?
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| 17:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> he
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| 17:13 | yes
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| 17:13 | <cliebow_> look in screen.d in your chroot /etc
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| 17:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> y delete S21gdm at rc3.d
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| 17:13 | <cliebow_> no
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| 17:13 | <petre> that normally doesn't work unless you're starting gdm manually
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| 17:13 | <cliebow_> i dont think
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| 17:15 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> not work :)
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| 17:15 | let me c to chroot
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| 17:16 | <cliebow_> be careful..you will break something
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| 17:17 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 17:17 | what i do then?
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| 17:17 | exactly
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| 17:18 | i c the file
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| 17:18 | startx
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| 17:18 | <cliebow_> or shell
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| 17:18 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> not c nothing special
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| 17:18 | <cliebow_> some people use startnx there..if installed..
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| 17:23 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> wll
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| 17:23 | i thinks i fix
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| 17:23 | the server i has to not X server
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| 17:24 | so /etc/X11/X not exist
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| 17:24 | so installed xserver-xorg
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| 17:25 | and.. works now.. the server with X
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| 17:25 | anyway server not for work
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| 17:25 | but error not exist so. process not stay in standby and client will be connect ok
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| 17:27 | <kaos01> hi, iam having reliability problems with pxegrub, 50% of the time the menu appears and the other 50% it doesnt ...
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| 17:27 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cool.. works now
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| 17:27 | i'm happy and can sleep well xD
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| 17:27 | i'm finish my debconf to present ltsp-4.2 for cuba :)
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| 17:28 | as a SWL proyect
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| 17:28 | c'y
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| 17:28 | * sh3mh4mf0r4sh is away | |
| 17:43 | <cliebow_> petre:your link to universal boot flop seems broken..
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| 17:44 | oh no..fine now
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| 19:03 | <jammcq> yo
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| 19:03 | <mistik1> dberkholz: hey man, I'm plowing along with that init script man, I just want to make it work, it can be improved on later
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| 19:04 | jammcq: hey
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| 19:21 | <aaron> I'm trying to check my understanding here, clients ignore the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xorg.conf and instead build one for themselves
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| 19:21 | based off of settings in the lts.conf
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| 19:22 | is that correct?
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| 19:23 | I'm having one heck of a time with ubuntu's ltsp, client X isn't comming up specifically
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| 20:05 | <mathesis> irule, hi ese
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| 20:05 | irule, andas po aqui
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| 20:06 | <dberkholz> mistik1: i'm around now
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| 20:08 | <mathesis> somebody has ltsp4.2 running on gentoo or ubuntu
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| 20:12 | somebody has ltsp4.2 running on gentoo or ubuntu
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| 21:14 | <jammcq> how-deeee
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| 21:26 | <irule> hi Jim!
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| 21:27 | is it possible to add more NIC cards to a server with a static number next to ltsp's connected to the same switch so that it will also be used by XDMCP to increase bandwidth per se?
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| 21:30 | <jammcq> it is possible to bond nics, if your switch supports it
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| 21:30 | <jammcq> are you having an X protocol performance issue?
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| 21:32 | <mathesis> somebody has ltsp4.2 running on gentoo or ubuntu ?
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| 22:21 | <chupacabra> Look DEEP into the OPENINGS!! Do you see any ELVES or EDSELS ... or a HIGHBALL?? ...
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| 23:21 | <mathesis> hi vagrantc
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| 23:22 | <mathesis> necesito una solucion mas factiblle que edubuntu
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| 23:22 | es muy lento
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| 23:23 | vagrantc, hi
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| 23:23 | <vagrantc> mathesis: hola
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| 23:24 | <mathesis> vagrantc, estoy desesperado edubuntu es muy mucho lento
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| 23:24 | demora en cargar los terminales
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| 23:24 | el server tiene un 1gb en ram 1 2.8 cpu
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| 23:24 | 120 en hdd
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| 23:25 | y con edubuntu todo esta bien pero es muy lento
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| 23:25 | recuerdo que cuando tuve ltsp con debian todo iba bien rapido y facil
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| 23:25 | <vagrantc> como se dice "lento" en ingleis?
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| 23:26 | <mathesis> slow
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| 23:27 | edubuntu is slowly in load
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| 23:27 | <vagrantc> que lento?
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| 23:28 | <mathesis> slow=lento
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| 23:28 | <vagrantc> si, entiendo ... pero ...
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| 23:28 | "how slow" ?
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| 23:28 | <mathesis> como 3 minutes
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| 23:29 | cuando tenia el server 1 ghz 256 en ram fue speed the load
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| 23:29 | in debian !!!
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| 23:29 | <vagrantc> si, pero que tipo de clientes?
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| 23:30 | <mathesis> no entiendo tipo de clientes
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| 23:30 | <vagrantc> hmmm... CPU y RAM de los "thin-clients"
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| 23:31 | <mathesis> 128 ram
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| 23:31 | cpu 400 mhz
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| 23:31 | <vagrantc> mathesis: ltsp 4.2 con debian, or ltsp5 con debian?
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| 23:31 | <mathesis> edubuntu ltsp5
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| 23:32 | <vagrantc> si, pero mas rapido en debian?
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| 23:32 | <mathesis> si mucho
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| 23:32 | <vagrantc> con ltsp 4.2, o no?
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| 23:32 | <mathesis> fue mucho mucho rapido
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| 23:32 | si
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| 23:32 | <vagrantc> si... ltsp 4.2 es muy rapido
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| 23:33 | necesitamos hacer ltsp5 mas rapido, pero es dificil.
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| 23:33 | <mathesis> the thin clients start speed
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| 23:34 | el server tardaba mas cuando se prendia
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| 23:34 | los clientes siempre iniciaban velozmente
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| 23:34 | <vagrantc> mathesis: usa LDM or GDM con edubuntu?
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| 23:34 | <mathesis> ldm
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| 23:35 | <vagrantc> si, ldm es muy lento.
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| 23:35 | <mathesis> como puedo iniciar con gdm
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| 23:35 | <vagrantc> en lts.conf
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| 23:35 | SCREEN_07=startx
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| 23:36 | y tambien...
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| 23:36 | configurar GDM permite XDMCP o remote login ... yo olvido exactamente
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| 23:39 | <knight> Mathesis
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| 23:39 | ya arreglo el problema?
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| 23:39 | <mathesis> knight, sigo sin poder arreglarlo
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| 23:40 | <knight> wow
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| 23:40 | <mathesis> que version kubuntu tienes
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| 23:46 | dime que onda we
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| 23:47 | knight, disculpa eso no era pa ti xD
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| 23:47 | knight, dices que tu tienes edubuntu
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| 23:48 | vagrantc, que tal esta el soporte de ltsp en gentoo?
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| 23:48 | <knight> no yo uso ubuntu
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| 23:48 | <mathesis> con gnome knight
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| 23:49 | <vagrantc> mathesis: no se. dos or tres personas trabahan en ltsp de gentoo...
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| 23:50 | <knight> sip con gnome
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| 23:53 | <mathesis> knight, a que produccion esta orientado tu ltsp
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| 23:55 | <knight> osea para que lo utilizo
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| 23:55 | ??
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| 23:57 | <mathesis> si
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| 23:57 | <knight> lo uso para clases de computadora basica
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| 23:58 | y clases de crear websites
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| 23:58 | tambien instale uno en una Iglesia
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| 23:59 | y ahi tienen gente en la communidad cogiendo clases basica de computadora
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| 23:59 | <mathesis> knight, que tal el soporte para unidades de acceso local?
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| 23:59 | <knight> bueno no he experimentado con eso
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| 23:59 | aunque si debo de hacerlo
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