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Channel log from 25 May 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:25 | <naptastic> Hi--is anyone here?
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| 01:44 | <cpunches> we're here
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| 01:44 | we're just drunk
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| 02:05 | <alkisg> ogra, I think there's a way to only do 1 dhcp request upon booting the ltsp clients, using pxelinux IPAPPEND 2 option to pass the ip address, gw etc information to the kernel. Is anyone interested in this?
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| 02:06 | IPAPPEND 2 ==> IPAPPEND 1
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| 05:17 | <majikins> hi is anyone here from south africa?
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| 09:31 | <beakburke> hey, did everyone get the email from warren?
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| 09:31 | <new2linux> hi all, i've installed the ltsp-utils noarch for fedora 9, but somehow can't find the programs on the start menu or where ever
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| 09:32 | does anyone knows how to access this program or should i do it via the terminal?
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| 09:32 | i'd really like to use the edubuntu that already support ltsp by default
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| 09:32 | but then, the os don't support flash player
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| 09:33 | really confuse on choosing the distro that support ltsp and flash player at the same time, any suggestion?
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| 09:34 | <stgraber> what's the problem with edubuntu/ubuntu and flash ?
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| 09:35 | <beakburke> I was under the impression that flash worked on edubuntu/ubuntu
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| 09:35 | <new2linux> i can't find the flash player 9 installation for ubuntu
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| 09:36 | <johnny_> it's flash-nonfree package
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| 09:36 | you don't use it from adobe site
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| 09:36 | <new2linux> i see
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| 09:36 | nonfree as for the term like shareware?
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| 09:36 | <johnny_> i guess
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| 09:36 | <new2linux> :(
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| 09:36 | <stgraber> no, you don't have to pay for it
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| 09:36 | <johnny_> it's the only option
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| 09:37 | <stgraber> it's nonfree as non-opensource
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| 09:37 | <johnny_> yeah
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| 09:37 | <new2linux> i see
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| 09:37 | <johnny_> same as any other flash package
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| 09:37 | it's just what debian calls it
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| 09:37 | * johnny_ forgot what shareware meant | |
| 09:37 | <stgraber> so just install this package, close firefox, reopen and flash will be working
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| 09:37 | <new2linux> i've installed ubuntu and re-install to fedora 9, coz i can't install flash player on ubuntu
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| 09:38 | but, now i'm on fedora 9, i can't install ltsp
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| 09:38 | very confussing
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| 09:38 | <johnny_> there are docs on ubuntu site
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| 09:38 | for flash
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| 09:38 | <new2linux> this all far from windows
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| 09:38 | <beakburke> If you want to get LTSP working on Fedora you should follow the instructions at the wiki
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| 09:38 | https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/
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| 09:38 | <new2linux> are there any programs that like .exe (executable) files like windows
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| 09:39 | that you just simply click on it and the program will do installation
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| 09:39 | or like macintosh?
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| 09:39 | <johnny_> usually you use the package manager
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| 09:39 | you hardly ever download packages yourself
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| 09:39 | just search for them and click install
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| 09:39 | <new2linux> i did read all of it
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| 09:39 | there are many different type of files
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| 09:39 | iso files
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| 09:39 | ltsp, ltsp-utils
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| 09:40 | <beakburke> when in doubt, just follow the directions
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| 09:40 | <new2linux> tps://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ <--- nice info, thank you very much
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| 09:40 | <beakburke> Just follow the install guide
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| 09:40 | <new2linux> i've been going to the ltsp.org website
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| 09:41 | sure things, thanks beakburke
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| 09:41 | <beakburke> ahhh, that's mostly LTSP developers
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| 09:41 | but with LTSP 5, the distros have to integrate everything in
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| 09:41 | <new2linux> let me try to bringing this thin-client up again
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| 09:41 | i see
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| 09:41 | no wonder i'm all confused
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| 09:41 | i'm no programmers
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| 09:42 | <beakburke> LTSP used to be a whole distribution on top of a distribution
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| 09:42 | <new2linux> -_-
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| 09:43 | <beakburke> now it's just stuff that you integrate into an existing one, that lets the LTSP developers spend more time on the LTSP specific stuff and less time maintaining a distribution.
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| 09:43 | So the Fedora and ubuntu devs had to do things to make LTSP5 work on their distros
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| 09:44 | <new2linux> i get the point
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| 09:44 | <beakburke> same with the debian (skolelinux) people
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| 09:44 | <new2linux> so, i must go to the distro site instead of the ltsp dev site
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| 09:45 | but, i did do installation for ltsp-utils for redhat/fedora, the ltsp-utils-0.25-0.noarch.rpm
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| 09:45 | should i do something like uninstalling it, before doing the k12 ltsp?
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| 09:45 | k12linux
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| 09:45 | <beakburke> if you want help installing LTSP on a specific distro, I'd start with that distros documentation/support (K12LTSP/Fedora, edubuntu, or skolelinux).
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| 09:46 | you can if you'd like
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| 09:46 | <new2linux> how to uninstall a program on linux
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| 09:46 | <beakburke> if that would make things easier for you
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| 09:46 | <new2linux> this is really funny question
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| 09:46 | <beakburke> on fedora its yum remove programname
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| 09:47 | if you use a commandline
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| 09:47 | or just go to the package manager GUI, search for your program, mark it for removal, and hit apply.
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| 09:48 | <new2linux> i see
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| 09:48 | <new2linux> i've been trying to locate the yum icon on the start menu on fedora 8
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| 09:48 | but, couldn't find one
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| 09:48 | <beakburke> yum is the name of the command line tool
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| 09:48 | just go to the administration menu
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| 09:48 | or the add/remove software under the programs menu
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| 09:49 | <petre> or install yumex
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| 09:49 | <beakburke> wait, do you have edubuntu or Fedora installed?
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| 09:49 | <petre> 'yum install yumex -y'
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| 09:51 | <new2linux> fedora 8
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| 09:51 | i just did tried the command line
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| 09:51 | i go to root, using su -
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| 09:51 | i'm on root
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| 09:51 | <petre> new2linux, I see 'Yum Extender' under Applications/System Tools on my f8
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| 09:51 | yum extender is a graphical front end to yum
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| 09:51 | <new2linux> i type yum remove programme ltsp-utils-0.25-0.noarch.rpm
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| 09:52 | but no match for argument
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| 09:52 | <beakburke> just yum remove ltsp-utils
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| 09:52 | "programname" is the name of whatever you are trying to remove
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| 09:52 | <new2linux> ouch
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| 09:52 | ok
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| 09:53 | let me try again
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| 09:53 | <beakburke> easy mistake to make
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| 09:53 | <new2linux> complete
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| 09:53 | :)
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| 09:53 | thank you guys for assisting
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| 09:53 | i'm beginning to love linux
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| 09:54 | free virus world
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| 09:54 | <petre> new2linux, did you find Yum Extender in the menu?
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| 09:54 | <new2linux> i've not yet install any anti-virus
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| 09:54 | could you imagine on windows, connecting an os without anti-virus...???
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| 09:54 | petre: no
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| 09:54 | can't find any name with yum on the menu
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| 09:55 | ould you imagine on windows, connecting an os to the internet without anti-virus...???
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| 09:55 | <petre> then try 'yum install yumex' at the commad line to install it
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| 09:55 | <new2linux> ok
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| 09:56 | <beakburke> I think he's using Fedora 9
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| 09:56 | <petre> he said he's running f8
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| 09:56 | <new2linux> sorry, was about to install fedora 9
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| 09:56 | i forgot i use the fedora 8 i386 installation
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| 09:56 | <beakburke> ahhhh
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| 09:56 | <new2linux> i did tried the fedora 9 x86_65 on intel xeon 3065
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| 09:57 | * petre is running f8 today, hope to move to f9 today or tomorrow | |
| 09:57 | <new2linux> but on the installation boot got this dmar:drhd error
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| 09:57 | x86_64 sorry
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| 09:57 | now, about the architecture
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| 09:58 | isn't x86_64 meant for processor that support 64 bit?
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| 09:58 | <petre> yes
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| 09:58 | <new2linux> and i think intel xeon 3065 has em64t, which mean supporting 64 bit os right?
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| 09:58 | <petre> yes, I think xeons have been 64-bit for several years now
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| 09:59 | <new2linux> i've got this dmar:drhd (flags: 0x0000001c)base: 0x0000feb010000000
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| 09:59 | <petre> (always perhaps?)
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| 09:59 | <beakburke> hmmm, it just hangs?
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| 09:59 | <new2linux> dmar:drhd is about intel virtualization if i'm not wrong
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| 09:59 | yes
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| 09:59 | <new2linux> on the installation boot
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| 10:00 | i've tried to switch the intel virtualization on and off
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| 10:00 | but still get the same problems
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| 10:00 | can't wonder what making that happened
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| 10:02 | petre: thank for the information on yumex
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| 10:02 | but shouldn't fedora distribute the program by default?
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| 10:03 | <beakburke> I think it does have another GUI package manager buried in the menu somewhere
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| 10:03 | <petre> I thought it did; it's in my menu, but it's possible I installed it manually, can't really recall
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| 10:03 | does synaptic work on fedora? or just debian-based?
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| 10:03 | <new2linux> i don't know
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| 10:04 | <beakburke> for the life of me I can remember what it is, had to format my test machine's HD to do some repair work for someone so I have to reinstall too!
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| 10:04 | <petre> syntaptic is available for f8
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| 10:04 | you might try that too; it's anothe gui frontend
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| 10:05 | I actually like synaptic better than yum ex, although I mostly use the command line
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| 10:05 | I think searching for packages is easier & quicker under synaptic than yumex
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| 10:06 | <new2linux> i see
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| 10:06 | i'll try both
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| 10:07 | well, back to thin-client
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| 10:07 | k12linux
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| 10:07 | talk to u guys later
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| 10:08 | <beakburke> have fun
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| 10:08 | <petre> good luck
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| 10:09 | beakburke, are you running f9?
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| 10:09 | <beakburke> yeah, well I was
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| 10:09 | until the aforementioned HD formatting incident
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| 10:09 | but I will be again soon
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| 10:09 | <petre> past-tense? what formatting incident?
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| 10:10 | <beakburke> oh, had to borrow the HD from my test machine
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| 10:10 | which was running FC 9
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| 10:11 | my Macbook and my slackware production box are still running
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| 10:11 | <petre> my test machine currently has k12 el5 on it, I've got a demo later this week for a school
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| 10:11 | <beakburke> and the ubuntu desktop machine that I am rescuing for someone else
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| 10:12 | <petre> but I think I'll try to move my laptop from f8 to f9
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| 10:12 | <beakburke> format and reinstall execpt /home?
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| 10:12 | <petre> what I was really wondering is what you were using for the thin client with the f9
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| 10:12 | a virtual tc or real tc
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| 10:14 | <beakburke> real tc
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| 10:14 | I got about a 5-6 dell optiplex sitting around that I kept for this purpose
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| 10:14 | GX1
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| 10:14 | That's how I got the instructions for booting real clients written
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| 10:14 | <petre> or copy /home to, say, USB stick or another server, then restore after the install
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| 10:14 | but gnome always seems to get screwed up when I do that
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| 10:14 | new gnome chokes on old settings stored in ~
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| 10:14 | those are great tcs
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| 10:15 | for this school, the local tech college has offered to donate a bunch of GX1 machines for the tcs
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| 10:15 | <beakburke> yeah, that's why kept them
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| 10:15 | not pretty, but they work well
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| 10:15 | <warren> AMD Geode GX1?
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| 10:15 | <beakburke> no no
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| 10:15 | <petre> function over form, I say
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| 10:15 | <beakburke> optiplex GX1
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| 10:16 | <warren> ok
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| 10:16 | <petre> intel, i810 chipset
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| 10:16 | <warren> Geode GX1 is a bit painful
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| 10:16 | oh nice, intel
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| 10:16 | did you have a chance to test the X driver without xorg.conf?
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| 10:16 | <petre> warren, thought you were unavailable (?)
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| 10:16 | <beakburke> yeah
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| 10:17 | I was about to edit the wik to that effect
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| 10:18 | <warren> I have a few minutes now
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| 10:18 | have to leave soon
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| 10:18 | <beakburke> you wanted me to try to boot the GX1?
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| 10:18 | optiplex that is
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| 10:25 | <beakburke> ahh, eric is here
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| 10:25 | <beakburke> how are things going on your end eric?
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| 10:26 | <petre> when was fedora 9 released?
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| 10:27 | I'm trying to figure out if the 'Fedora 9 Preview' DVD I have is recent enough to work with, or if I have to download something newer
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| 10:30 | <beakburke> May 13th if the website is correct
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| 10:31 | the preview was apr 17th
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| 10:31 | <warren> petre: reportedly jigdo can update your DVD without downloading the entire thing
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| 10:31 | petre: or maybe rsync will do it
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| 10:31 | <petre> hmm, not familiar with jigdo
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| 10:31 | <warren> jigdo depends upon template files that you might not find
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| 10:33 | * eharrison_ is on a lousy internet connection :-( | |
| 10:33 | <petre> I think I'll go the rsync route
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| 10:33 | <beakburke> yeah, I see you are still logged in
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| 10:33 | I think I still have the preview too
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| 10:33 | actually
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| 10:34 | <petre> does rsync work over http?
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| 10:34 | I think I've only used it with ftp previously
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| 10:34 | <beakburke> say, is whomever that was having the freezeup problem with their FC9 X86_64 on the xeons still around here?
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| 10:35 | <petre> new2linux was the nick I think
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| 10:35 | <new2linux> still here
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| 10:35 | i'm using intel xeon 3065
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| 10:35 | <beakburke> ahh
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| 10:35 | <new2linux> and it's just showing that dmar:drhd all the way non-stop
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| 10:36 | <beakburke> in the boot options have you tried acpi=ht?
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| 10:36 | <new2linux> i can't get to anything that i can choose any
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| 10:36 | stuck on that
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| 10:36 | <beakburke> I mean before you even boot the CD
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| 10:36 | <new2linux> the bios motherboard?
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| 10:37 | <beakburke> the screen that loads before you actually hit enter to boot the cd to load the installer
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| 10:37 | IIRC
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| 10:38 | <new2linux> owh
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| 10:38 | i have the silent boot, so the screen only showing intel logos
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| 10:38 | i'll try the acpi=ht
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| 10:39 | <beakburke> let me get my testbox powered up here
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| 10:39 | just need to see the boot menu
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| 10:39 | then I can try to be more clear
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| 10:39 | <beakburke> my test desk is a mess
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| 10:39 | i have 6 pcs there, and only room for 2
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| 10:40 | <new2linux> ltsp-build-client taking quite some time :(
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| 10:40 | how do u arrange them all?
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| 10:40 | @.@
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| 10:42 | <new2linux> acpi=ht is to on the hyper-threading?
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| 10:42 | <beakburke> ok
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| 10:42 | when you boot the install cd/dvd
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| 10:43 | at the menu it gives you, it says press tab to edit options
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| 10:43 | do you get that far?
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| 10:43 | <new2linux> i don't remember
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| 10:44 | as i recall
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| 10:44 | only intel logo and then the fedora 9 option
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| 10:44 | to install or upgrade the existing os gui or text
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| 10:44 | test mem
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| 10:44 | and so on
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| 10:44 | <beakburke> ahh, well if you get the fedora 9 option, thats where you do the
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| 10:44 | <new2linux> that kind of options
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| 10:44 | <beakburke> yep, that's where
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| 10:44 | at that screen
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| 10:44 | <new2linux> ok
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| 10:45 | edit option?
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| 10:45 | <beakburke> just add that
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| 10:45 | yes
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| 10:45 | there are a couple things you can try there
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| 10:45 | but that is a likely one
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| 10:45 | with the xeons and all
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| 10:45 | <new2linux> i thought the os don't support the proc
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| 10:46 | i'll try that later
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| 10:46 | just need to get this ltsp success first on f8
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| 10:46 | still building client
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| 10:46 | haiz
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| 10:48 | <beakburke> you also might try adding "nodmraid" and/or acpi=off
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| 10:49 | <new2linux> i see, is that what causing the problem?
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| 10:49 | i'm not using raid
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| 10:49 | only 1 harddrive
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| 10:49 | <beakburke> the controller and that kernel maybe
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| 10:49 | I dunno
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| 10:50 | I was just reading this http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=188326
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| 10:50 | and it sounded about right
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| 10:53 | <new2linux> i'll try the nodmraid first later
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| 10:53 | if it stop the freezing, i think that what's causing it
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| 11:02 | <petre> anyone know if I need any parameters for rsync besides -auv to update the DVD I have of f9?
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| 11:04 | <beakburke> say petre, there is a GUI tool in FC9 for add/remove software under system -> administration
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| 11:04 | don't think it's yumex though
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| 11:11 | <new2linux> what is the size to build a thin-client?
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| 11:11 | it just don't stop
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| 11:12 | isn't thin should be small
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| 11:13 | <laga> the client itself is small, but not necessarily the OS ;)
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| 11:14 | <new2linux> i downloading an os
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| 11:15 | i thought the building client would only take 5-15 minutes
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| 11:15 | <beakburke> it's pretty hefty the first time
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| 11:15 | not as big as all Fedora mind you :D
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| 11:15 | <new2linux> hehe
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| 11:15 | i'd really hope not
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| 11:15 | <beakburke> it's like building a partial OS really
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| 11:16 | just the minimal stuff, but you have to build it, so it takes a little while
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| 11:16 | <new2linux> i have u guys around
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| 11:16 | <laga> new2linux: building the client only takes 20 minutes here.. but i use apt-cacher ;)
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| 11:17 | (and i've got a fast CPU)
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| 11:17 | <new2linux> my connection only 768kb
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| 11:18 | how to use the apt-catcher to build the k12linux client?
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| 11:18 | <laga> i think apt-cacher will only work for debian-based distros
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| 11:19 | oh, k12linux is based on debian, right?
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| 11:19 | <beakburke> nope
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| 11:19 | <new2linux> no
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| 11:19 | <beakburke> ubuntu
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| 11:19 | <new2linux> rpm right?
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| 11:19 | <beakburke> yes
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| 11:19 | <new2linux> only ubuntu using debian if i'm not wrong
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| 11:19 | <beakburke> rpm is a redhat/SUSE thing mostly
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| 11:20 | and their progeny
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| 11:20 | <laga> new2linux: apt-cacher will only speed up subsequent builds ;)
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| 11:20 | <beakburke> whereas debian and all its decendants use apt-get and .deb
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| 11:21 | <new2linux> anyway, no point of trying anything else now
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| 11:21 | half way to stop and start again
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| 11:22 | <beakburke> yep
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| 11:22 | <new2linux> it don't show the progress of how many have been downloaded
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| 11:22 | hate guessing
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| 11:34 | <beakburke> you know what I do in these situations
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| 11:36 | <laga> go for a coffee?
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| 11:36 | <beakburke> Why yes!!! Well, in my case hot chocolate or something
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| 11:36 | I'm a bit of a geek freak
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| 11:36 | as I don
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| 11:37 | 't like coffee
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| 11:37 | That really ought to be an official instruction in the install manual "insert favorite activity here"
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| 11:38 | serf web, get coffee, bike ride, snow shoe, etc
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| 11:38 | <laga> beakburke: i don't like coffee either
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| 11:39 | <beakburke> well good to know, I'm not the only one
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| 11:39 | <laga> heh
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| 11:39 | i know someone else who doesn't like coffee either.
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| 11:39 | yay.
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| 11:39 | so we're three now
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| 11:39 | * beakburke chuckles | |
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| 11:57 | <new2linux> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
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| 11:58 | i've got this wrong
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| 11:58 | it returns: -bash: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0: Permission denied
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| 11:58 | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4_p3
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| 11:59 | how to write the script on a text editor and execute it on a command line?
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| 12:00 | <beakburke> ahh
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| 12:00 | you don't acutally run ifcfg-eth0
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| 12:01 | that's just a file that holds the settings
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| 12:01 | <new2linux> yeah it say use a text editor
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| 12:01 | You will need to setup ltspbr0 so that it associates with the correct network card on boot. Using a text editor, add BRIDGE=ltspbr0 to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethN where the "N" in ethN is the ethernet interface facing your terminals. Then restart the service "network", either from System -> Administration -> Services in the GUI, or by running service network restart in the terminal as the root user.
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| 12:02 | <beakburke> ok, you need to open it with root permissions
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| 12:02 | <new2linux> ok
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| 12:02 | <beakburke> otherwise you won't be able to write to it
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| 12:02 | that's the problem
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| 12:02 | <new2linux> i'm on root
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| 12:02 | [root@74 ~]#
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| 12:03 | <beakburke> ahh
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| 12:03 | <new2linux> no?
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| 12:03 | <beakburke> yes
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| 12:04 | so vi /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
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| 12:04 | <new2linux> how to add the command BRIDGE=ltspbr0 to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
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| 12:04 | <beakburke> then arrow down towards the end
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| 12:04 | hit "i"
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| 12:04 | then enter
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| 12:04 | for a new line
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| 12:05 | on the new line enter BRIDGE=ltspbr0
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| 12:05 | <beakburke> then hit escape
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| 12:05 | then :wq
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| 12:05 | to save and exit
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| 12:05 | <new2linux> done
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| 12:05 | i restart the network now?
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| 12:06 | <beakburke> service network restart
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| 12:06 | from the command prompt
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| 12:06 | <new2linux> done
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| 12:06 | <beakburke> are you using two network cards?
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| 12:06 | <new2linux> so, now i can try to bring the client up
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| 12:06 | yes
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| 12:06 | 1 for lan and the other for internet
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| 12:06 | eth0 for the lan, eth1 for intenret
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| 12:06 | <beakburke> which one is facing the internet?
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| 12:07 | <new2linux> eth1
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| 12:07 | eth0 facing the network
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| 12:07 | <beakburke> ahhh, it's acually easier to do the other way
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| 12:07 | eth0 faces the client
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| 12:07 | huh
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| 12:07 | <new2linux> because eth0 is 10/100/1000
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| 12:07 | <beakburke> cause if you use eth0 for the thin clients you have to disable the
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| 12:07 | <new2linux> and eth1 is only 10/100
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| 12:07 | <beakburke> Yeah, I had the same problem
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| 12:07 | <new2linux> i need the gig nic for the lan
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| 12:07 | <beakburke> :D
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| 12:08 | <beakburke> and easier to kill "NetworkManager" than to monkey around making eth0 into eth1
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| 12:08 | <new2linux> disabling the network manager
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| 12:08 | i've did that
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| 12:08 | <beakburke> yup, under the AdvancedNetworkSetup link
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| 12:08 | on that wiki
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| 12:09 | <new2linux> so, i can try to connect the client now?
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| 12:09 | i have to save this chatting
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| 12:09 | <beakburke> yep
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| 12:09 | run service NetworkManger off
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| 12:10 | whoops
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| 12:10 | I mean service NetworkManager stop
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| 12:10 | to stop it, then chkconfig NetworkManager off
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| 12:10 | to disable it
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| 12:10 | <new2linux> it's already stopped
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| 12:10 | <beakburke> in the future
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| 12:10 | you did that already?
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| 12:11 | <new2linux> already
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| 12:11 | but, the client still can't get through
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| 12:11 | i did set on the bios
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| 12:11 | to boot from the lan
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| 12:11 | <beakburke> what happens when you try to boot from the lan
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| 12:11 | you might try to restart your server
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| 12:12 | make sure all the setting have taken effect WRT your network
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| 12:12 | as many files as we edited
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| 12:12 | :D
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| 12:12 | <new2linux> disk boot failure
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| 12:13 | <beakburke> that's the client??
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| 12:13 | <new2linux> yes
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| 12:13 | <beakburke> ok, power off the client
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| 12:13 | restart the server
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| 12:13 | <new2linux> ok
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| 12:13 | just have to save this chat 1st
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| 12:13 | <beakburke> ahh
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| 12:13 | you are chatting from the server
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| 12:14 | :D
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| 12:14 | <new2linux> yes
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| 12:14 | how 2 save a chat
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| 12:14 | this also different from mirc
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| 12:15 | how to log the chat?
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| 12:15 | <beakburke> what are you using?
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| 12:15 | <new2linux> xchat
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| 12:15 | i did click on the log
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| 12:15 | enable logging of conversations
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| 12:16 | that's all what i take?
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| 12:16 | is this chat now being log from the start
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| 12:16 | or just being log from where i just click the choice to log?
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| 12:17 | <beakburke> good questoin
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| 12:17 | you can probably check
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| 12:17 | <new2linux> hehe
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| 12:17 | i rather copy n paste 1st
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| 12:17 | <beakburke> well taht works too
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| 12:18 | <new2linux> the scrolling takes time
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| 12:18 | be right back
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| 12:19 | <beakburke> ok
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| 12:20 | <new2linux> restarting server
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| 12:20 | see u in a while
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| 12:26 | <new2linux> still failed
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| 12:26 | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4_p3
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| 12:27 | <beakburke> what about that page?
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| 12:27 | <new2linux> should i create virtual interface?
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| 12:27 | <beakburke> nope
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| 12:27 | <beakburke> if you run ifconfig
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| 12:27 | you should already have an "virtural" interface called ltspbr0
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| 12:28 | <new2linux> ltspbr0 is the virtual right
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| 12:28 | <beakburke> we just want to tie it to an actual hardware device
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| 12:28 | <new2linux> so, what is wrong?
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| 12:29 | before i go to the permanent network setup
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| 12:29 | i configure the temporary network setup
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| 12:29 | so i configure bot
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| 12:29 | both
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| 12:29 | <beakburke> nope
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| 12:29 | just one or the other
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| 12:29 | <new2linux> brctl addif ltspbr0 eth1
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| 12:29 | how to undo the temporary network setup
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| 12:29 | <beakburke> that happened when you rebooted
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| 12:29 | that's why it's temporary
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| 12:30 | <new2linux> i see
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| 12:30 | <new2linux> clueless
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| 12:30 | <beakburke> the permanent one edits your settings files so that you always have an LTSP server
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| 12:30 | <new2linux> @.@
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| 12:30 | <beakburke> that's perfectly OK
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| 12:30 | believe me, we're all still learning this
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| 12:30 | <new2linux> i've also shutdown the firewall
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| 12:30 | <beakburke> ahh
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| 12:31 | <new2linux> so, it shouldn't be a problem right
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| 12:31 | <beakburke> nope
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| 12:31 | <new2linux> hmm
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| 12:31 | <beakburke> all this stuff gets reset unless it's disabled when you restart
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| 12:31 | instead of just stopped
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| 12:32 | <new2linux> when i restart
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| 12:32 | something is not ok
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| 12:32 | the dhcpd
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| 12:32 | and another 1 under it
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| 12:32 | <beakburke> what does it say, do you remember
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| 12:32 | <new2linux> i didn't get it
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| 12:32 | on restart detail
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| 12:32 | <beakburke> hmm
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| 12:32 | just a sec
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| 12:32 | <new2linux> where everything written ok, that dhcpd is not ok
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| 12:32 | i restart again
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| 12:33 | to see it
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| 12:33 | be back
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| 12:37 | <beakburke> hey
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| 12:37 | <new2linux> it say dhcpd failed
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| 12:37 | <beakburke> ok
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| 12:37 | <new2linux> dhcrelay failed
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| 12:37 | those 2 failed
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| 12:37 | <beakburke> ok
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| 12:38 | <new2linux> it affect the thin client to get ip add. right
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| 12:38 | <beakburke> do this run chkconfig dhcpd off
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| 12:38 | then service dhcpd stop
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| 12:38 | then service ltsp-dhcpd restart
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| 12:39 | and chkconfig ltsp-dhcpd on
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| 12:39 | <new2linux> done
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| 12:39 | should i restart the network?
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| 12:39 | <beakburke> nah
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| 12:39 | just try booting a client now
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| 12:40 | see what happens
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| 12:40 | <new2linux> so, the command
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| 12:40 | is to shutdown the ordinary dhcp
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| 12:40 | <beakburke> yep
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| 12:40 | <new2linux> and bring up the ltsp-dhcp
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| 12:40 | <beakburke> exactly
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| 12:40 | <new2linux> i see
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| 12:40 | nice
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| 12:40 | i'll try the client now
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| 12:40 | <beakburke> ltsp-dhcpd runs only on ltspbr0
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| 12:40 | <new2linux> the virtual interface
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| 12:41 | <beakburke> which is all you should need, you aren't doing dhcpd to the outside world
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| 12:41 | <new2linux> but still failure
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| 12:41 | <beakburke> what does it say when you start ltsp-dhcpd
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| 12:41 | was that ok
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| 12:41 | <new2linux> ok
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| 12:41 | shutting down ok
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| 12:42 | starting ltsp-dhcpd ok
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| 12:42 | <beakburke> so where are you hanging up on the client boot?
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| 12:42 | what's the last thing on the screen when it tries to boot
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| 12:42 | <new2linux> disk boot failure
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| 12:42 | insert system disk and press enter
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| 12:43 | i did set to boot from lan for the 1st boot
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| 12:43 | and disabled all the other boot
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| 12:43 | from the mobo bios
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| 12:45 | <beakburke> it's not lan booting at all
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| 12:46 | <new2linux> it's not?
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| 12:46 | how 2 lan boot?
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| 12:46 | <beakburke> disk boot failure means it's not seeing a bootable disk on the mahcine
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| 12:46 | what kind of PC are you using for a thin client?
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| 12:46 | <new2linux> foxconn mobo with p4 intel and 256 mb memory
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| 12:46 | i only taken off the harddrive
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| 12:47 | <beakburke> you have it set to network boot
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| 12:47 | in the bios
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| 12:47 | <new2linux> there are 1 - 3 boot
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| 12:47 | <beakburke> I mean set to boot from LAN first, and have network booting enabled
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| 12:47 | <new2linux> 1st boot, i choose it to boot from lan
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| 12:48 | no network booting option
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| 12:48 | <beakburke> hmm, try disabling the other two options
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| 12:48 | <new2linux> i found that kind of thing on other mobo
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| 12:48 | but not this one
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| 12:48 | done that
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| 12:48 | disabled all the other and set the 1st one to boot from lan
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| 12:49 | the nic card is from realtek
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| 12:49 | if i'm not wrong, now a day nic card should be pxe enabled already right?
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| 12:51 | <beakburke> should be
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| 12:51 | <new2linux> Realtek RTL8100C
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| 12:51 | <beakburke> most modern ones are
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| 12:51 | <new2linux> support wake-up frame
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| 12:51 | <beakburke> that's not a guarantee though I suppose
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| 12:52 | <new2linux> no
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| 12:52 | there's a link to check wether a nic is pxe ready or not
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| 12:52 | i forgot that link
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| 12:53 | <beakburke> oh, well that would be helpful
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| 12:54 | after the bios screen you should get a little screen when it tries to boot from the network card
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| 12:54 | the card's name and stuff flashes up on the screen when it tries to PXE boot
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| 12:55 | <new2linux> i know
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| 12:55 | but it just go direct to that failure
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| 12:55 | it didn't even showing a connection
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| 12:55 | tried to connect but fail
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| 12:56 | just fail like that
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| 12:56 | <beakburke> hmmmm
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| 12:56 | this is the kind of this that makes me want to take a look at the bios to make sure we aren't missing anything
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| 12:56 | and maybe try a different NIC, just in case
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| 12:57 | <new2linux> onboard lan boot rom
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| 12:58 | disabled
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| 12:58 | <beakburke> ok
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| 12:58 | <new2linux> gee
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| 12:58 | <beakburke> that needs to be enabled
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| 12:58 | <new2linux> yes
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| 12:58 | <beakburke> :D
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| 12:58 | that was that second setting that I was talking about
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| 12:58 | <new2linux> i'm seeing something working
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| 12:58 | :D
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| 12:58 | ltsp.org on the screen
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| 12:58 | yahooo!!
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| 12:58 | <beakburke> if it asks PXE or RTL? under that you want PXE
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| 12:58 | is it going?????
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| 12:59 | <new2linux> my 1st time on thin-client
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| 12:59 | <beakburke> YEEEEEEEEHAW
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| 12:59 | <new2linux> yesss
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| 12:59 | i love thin-client!!
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| 12:59 | thank you so muchhh!!
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| 12:59 | <beakburke> no problem
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| 12:59 | I love it when stuff works!!!!
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| 12:59 | <new2linux> without you i'll be spending maybe 5-14 days
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| 12:59 | doing this things
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| 13:00 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: got back home in one piece? :)
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| 13:00 | * beakburke does a little dance | |
| 13:00 | <new2linux> tomorrow, i'll be setting up squid
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| 13:00 | next thing to be done
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| 13:00 | <beakburke> that should be fun
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| 13:01 | <new2linux> yess
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| 13:01 | now time to sleep
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| 13:01 | can sleep well now
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| 13:01 | :D
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| 13:01 | <beakburke> yeha, no kidding
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| 13:01 | <new2linux> so, see u around
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| 13:01 | <beakburke> just remember that the squid connections are comming from the server
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| 13:01 | <new2linux> yes
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| 13:01 | <beakburke> cause that's where the browser is running on
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| 13:01 | <new2linux> ok
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| 13:01 | backing up conversation
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| 13:01 | <beakburke> gnite then
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| 13:03 | <new2linux> gnite, see u around
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| 13:03 | thx once again
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