IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 21 December 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:23 | <xdrazen> hi
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| 04:24 | well i am pretty "bored" now. Sometimes this LTSP seems a bit hopeless for me
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| 04:26 | i really do not care if if would be a traditional ltsp, or a pnp-ltsp or even remote desktop... but right now i am with no more clues
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| 04:28 | i have been making some trys, what happens with ipxe is that with 96mb of ram or more in those p pro pcs only gets freezed.
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| 04:32 | right now, i wonder if ubuntu 8.04 could make the work
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| 04:33 | i know that it is not more supported... but what more could i do?
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| 04:34 | <xdrazen> i will try to "install" the 8.04 alternate on those pcs and see what happens
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| 04:36 | <alkisg> !precise-i386
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| 04:36 | <ltsp`> precise-i386: Ubuntu 12.04 compressed btrfs chroot to boot really old clients (non-pae, <80MB RAM): http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.img. Screenshot: http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.png
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| 04:36 | <alkisg> xdrazen: see the screenshot above ^
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| 04:36 | Only 37MB RAM used at LDM, with epoptes open
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| 04:37 | Did you ask at #ipxe about if it supports pentium pro or not?
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| 04:37 | <xdrazen> yes, it does, it is very very strange
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| 04:38 | i am seing the screenshot
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| 04:38 | it is 70mb ocupied right?
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| 04:38 | <alkisg> No, 70 MB RAM on the client, 37156 used
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| 04:38 | <xdrazen> **55 of 70
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| 04:38 | <alkisg> 55 is with the caching
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| 04:39 | That is not the correct line to see
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| 04:39 | It's the next one, 37
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| 04:39 | Boot with tinycorelinux and compare
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| 04:39 | <xdrazen> yap, i see it now
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| 04:39 | <alkisg> For me, tinycorelinux always uses more RAM than LTSP
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| 04:40 | And if one switches to xorg, it uses more than 128, way too much
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| 04:40 | (it uses xvesa by default, in which we can't even type greek)
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| 04:40 | <xdrazen> xvesa has issue with some of my monitors
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| 04:41 | <alkisg> That screenshot has xorg, not xvesa
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| 04:41 | Do you have a local linux on a pentium pro?
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| 04:41 | E.g. puppy?
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| 04:41 | <xdrazen> then, that is a client with xorg
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| 04:42 | yes, right now i do
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| 04:42 | <alkisg> You can avoid using ipxe then
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| 04:42 | <xdrazen> i will turn it on and boot
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| 04:42 | <alkisg> You can put the LTSP vmlinuz and initrd.img locally
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| 04:42 | And boot them with grub from the puppy menu
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| 04:43 | The command line to use is something like: kernel vmlinuz ro init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/nbd0 nbdroot=<server-ip>:/opt/ltsp/i386
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| 04:44 | initrd initrd.img
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| 04:44 | Then it loads the kernel from the local disk, and finally it connects to the LTSP server, without using iPXE
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| 04:45 | To avoid misunderstandings, the screenshot is plain 12.04.1, the one I was telling you to install since 2 weeks
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| 04:45 | <xdrazen> i did it
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| 04:45 | as i told you, that is my last try
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| 04:45 | <alkisg> But you never got to boot it, you always reformatted in the same day :)
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| 04:45 | <xdrazen> **i mean, the last thing that i have done
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| 04:46 | <alkisg> You have it installed now?
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| 04:46 | <xdrazen> ^^ really sorry it is kinda a bad thing of me
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| 04:46 | yes, i got it
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| 04:46 | as i said you
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| 04:46 | what happens is that when i try to use it
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| 04:46 | i have a kernel panic
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| 04:47 | <alkisg> as I said, that was because you had the pae kernel
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| 04:47 | Your clients do not have pae
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| 04:47 | <xdrazen> the same error that i got in the VM client when i asigned less than 70mb
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| 04:47 | yes i understand a bit about that
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| 04:47 | <alkisg> Try to install the "linux-image-generic" package
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| 04:47 | This will give you vmlinuz without pae
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| 04:48 | Or, download the image that I said in the link ^, it's 640MB and it has the non-pae kernel
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| 04:48 | And it can boot with 70MB
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| 04:48 | <xdrazen> what is this one?
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| 04:48 | http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.img
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| 04:48 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 04:48 | <xdrazen> then, i could download http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.img
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| 04:48 | <alkisg> You put that to /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img and then run sudo ltsp-update-kernels
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| 04:48 | Yes
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| 04:48 | <xdrazen> burn it in a cd and try to boot those p pro right?
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| 04:48 | <alkisg> No
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| 04:48 | It's an LTSP disk, not a CD
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| 04:49 | <xdrazen> that is a "chroot" image right?
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| 04:49 | <alkisg> You put it to your 12.04.1 server
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| 04:49 | Yes
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| 04:50 | <xdrazen> i remember a bit. Well, then i should install a ltsp 12.04.1 pnp? or any other?
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| 04:50 | <alkisg> You said you have 12.04.1 installed now
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| 04:50 | <xdrazen> really thanks dude
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| 04:50 | <alkisg> Just use it
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| 04:51 | <xdrazen> i have the 12.04.1 server with pnp ltsp.
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| 04:51 | <alkisg> Right, then do the 2 instructions I said
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| 04:51 | download precise-i386.img, put it to /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img, then run sudo ltsp-update-kernels
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| 04:51 | <xdrazen> kk i will be back with results. Thanks a lot alkisg, Really thank a lot for all your cooperation patient and help
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| 04:52 | <alkisg> Let's hope you can boot them this time ;0
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| 04:52 | <xdrazen> ^^ really i like the linux comunity :D!
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| 04:52 | cya will be back soon
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| 05:59 | <alkisg> !kvm
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| 05:59 | <ltsp`> kvm: Virtual thin client: kvm -vga-vmware -ctrl-grab -no-shutdown -net nic,model=virtio -net user,tftp=/var/lib/tftpboot,bootfile=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 08:57 | <alkisg> !image
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| 08:57 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'image', but I do know about these similar topics: 'dailyimage', 'ltsp-update-image'
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| 08:57 | <alkisg> !picture
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| 08:57 | <ltsp`> Error: "picture" is not a valid command.
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| 08:57 | <alkisg> !screenshot
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| 08:57 | <ltsp`> Error: "screenshot" is not a valid command.
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| 08:58 | <alkisg> !learn screenshot as to show us a screenshot, upload it to e.g. http://postimg.org and then paste the link here, e.g. http://postimg.org/image/8usr22x29/
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| 08:58 | <ltsp`> The operation succeeded.
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| 09:31 | <alkisg> !noaccel
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| 09:31 | <ltsp`> noaccel: Some graphics cards, e.g. SiS [1039:6325] on 14.04, require this setting in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel\""
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| 10:20 | <vanitas> alkisg: hi
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> Hi vanitas, let's talk in the other channel
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