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Channel log from 8 October 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 17:59 | <nubae> even the support dudes at godaddy,who reallly is a nice guy, cant figure out whats wrong
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| 17:59 | ]iptabkes starts up auto
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| 17:59 | even when switched off
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| 18:00 | u think uninstalling iptables could be detrimental if all I'm running is webservers?
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| 18:01 | u know I'm about 20 secs away from moving servers]
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| 18:01 | any suggestions?
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| 18:02 | this is now ludicrous... 5 days wihtout web access
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| 18:02 | <Alex_____> Hi All,
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| 18:03 | Is someone out there possibly able to help me with a few questions I have about LTSP? I'm in the last stages of a project and I can't seem to find any info on the couple issues I'm having.
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| 18:04 | <alkisg> !ask
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| 18:04 | <ltsp> alkisg: ask: (#1) Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel., or (#2) Please do not ask to ask a question, just go ahead and ask. People will respond if they have a solution or can help.
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| 18:05 | <Alex_____> Right - My system, Ubuntu (10.10) But will use later versions. LTSP, KVM/QEMU all properly setup. VM's running. The goal, booting directly into my windows VM via LTSP thin clients.
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| 18:06 | <nubae_> ok.... my anger level from 0-10 is at about 7 and a half
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| 18:06 | so please bear with me
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| 18:06 | I need a new hosting provider
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| 18:07 | <Alex_____> When I edit lts.conf, to boot into RDP using screen_07 = rdesktop
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| 18:07 | <nubae_> It has taken godaddy longer than 2 weeks to sort out a simple web issue
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| 18:07 | any suggestions
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| 18:07 | ?
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| 18:07 | <Alex_____> It boots into a black server with white cursor that's moveable.
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| 18:07 | Godaddy?
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| 18:07 | What's the problem?
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| 18:08 | *edit for my above note, HOW do I boot into my VM using the RDP option in lts.conf - will this ONLY work for Windows Terminal servers? Alternatively, HOW can I get Rdesktop to PROPERLY boot at startup of an LTSP thin client, I don't want the user to see a Ubuntu Desktop environment at all.
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| 18:09 | <alkisg> Setting SCREEN_07=rdesktop <params> or specifying RDP_OPTIONS and maybe RDP_SERVER should be enough
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| 18:09 | <Alex_____> In theory, should this successfully boot into the VM?
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| 18:09 | <alkisg> If it isn't, and you suspect something else is wrong, you can troubleshoot from a local xterm
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| 18:10 | VM is ltsp client or windows server?
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| 18:10 | VM=windows server, and you want a physical client to connect there?
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| 18:10 | Sure, should be easy
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| 18:10 | <Alex_____> LTSP client connecting to windows 7 VM.
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| 18:10 | Via rdesktop.
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| 18:11 | When adding this into lts.conf I get a black screen at boot with moveable white cursor.
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| 18:11 | <alkisg> What's the ip of the vm server?
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| 18:11 | <Alex_____> 192.168.1.71
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| 18:11 | <alkisg> What's the ip of the ltsp server?
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| 18:11 | <Alex_____> 70
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| 18:11 | <alkisg> Did you set RDP_SERVER?
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| 18:11 | <Alex_____> Wait,
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| 18:12 | Ah
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| 18:12 | RDP_SERVER = The server running the VM? Or the VM itself?
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| 18:12 | <alkisg> .71
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| 18:12 | The ip where rdesktop should connect
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| 18:12 | Where in port 3389 rdp server is listening
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| 18:12 | <Alex_____> Ok yes, that's the IP of the VM itself.
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| 18:13 | The VM is hosted in the LTSP server, (several VM's)
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| 18:13 | They connect back via rdesktop
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| 18:13 | <nubae_> godaddy is hillbilies hosting]
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| 18:13 | so i've found
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| 18:13 | <Alex_____> Basically I've got this in lts.conf (and now getting black screen with white cursor)
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| 18:14 | screen_07 = rdesktop
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| 18:14 | rdp_server = "192.168.1.71" (windows 7 VM on LTSP server)
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| 18:14 | What am I missing?
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| 18:15 | When booted up properly (into gnome) running terminal and the regular Rdesktop args it boots into the VM without an issue.
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| 18:15 | <alkisg> Alex_____: remove the screen_07=rdesktop entry, and boot normally into LDM, login into gnome, run `ltsp-localapps xterm` so that you get a local terminal, and finally try manually connecting from there with rdesktop
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| 18:15 | <Alex_____> I've currently got a script delaying Rdesktop at boot for 2 seconds to give Gnome a chance to load, then this boots flawlessly into the VM. But this isn't ideal, as the user sees a flash of gnome.
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| 18:16 | <alkisg> erm what?
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| 18:16 | Can you put your lts.conf to pastebin?
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| 18:16 | <Alex_____> Sorry - when I DONT use lts.conf
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| 18:16 | When I boot into regular ldm/gnome. Then I get a script to launch Rdesktop at boot.
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| 18:17 | Can't paste lts.conf at this stage (on my mac)
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| 18:17 | What I want to achieve, is to not have to use a startup script to launch rdesktop and have ltsp handle this using lts.conf
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| 18:17 | (like screen_07 etc etc)
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| 18:18 | I know Rdesktop works - as I can launch it fine in the terminal once logged onto gnome.
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| 18:18 | <alkisg> OK, do what I said above with `ltsp-localapps xterm`
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| 18:18 | <Alex_____> If this works?
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| 18:18 | <alkisg> If it works paste your lts.conf as it's just a syntax issue
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| 18:18 | <Alex_____> Ok.
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| 18:19 | Will you be around at some other time today?
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| 18:19 | <alkisg> I may be around for a couple more hours
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| 18:19 | <Alex_____> Ok - damn, (I'm at work) I'll have to try this when I'm back in front of the server.
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| 18:20 | I can write up what's in the lts.conf as it's a basic file just to get this going at the moment.
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| 18:21 | I suspect xterm will work. One thought I had, could it be possible that this will only work with windows terminal servers? The VM is just a windows 7 VM, not a server.
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| 18:23 | [default]
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| 18:23 | SCREEN_07=rdesktop
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| 18:23 | RDP_SERVER=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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| 18:24 | <Alex_____> That's it. Except I've also added this to a specific thin client (mac address)
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| 18:24 | Just to get this damn thing going. With this all I'm getting is the aforementioned black screen with white cursor.
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| 18:26 | All the LTSP articles online (and trust me, I've read ALL of them) constantly mention Windows Terminal servers.
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| 18:27 | Which is where I'm not 100% sure if this option will work for a regular Windows 7 VM.
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| 18:28 | Also, thank you for your help so far. I really appreciate it.
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| 18:37 | <alkisg> (09:21:06 μμ) Alex_____: I suspect xterm will work. One thought I had, could it be possible that this will only work with windows terminal servers ==> rdesktop works on any version of windows as long as it has rdp enabled
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| 18:37 | <Alex_____> So I'm just missing something?
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| 18:38 | <alkisg> Yes, when you're onsite start troubleshooting with the local xterm
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| 18:38 | E.g. in 10.04 the rdesktop.sh was missing, maybe that affects 10.10 too
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| 18:39 | <Alex_____> I see. Rdesktop does seem to work well once in terminal. etc etc.
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| 18:39 | I did attempt this on 11.04 also,
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| 18:40 | But same issue. I also noted, that the ltsplocal-apps command doesn't work for Rdesktop. I assumed that this is because it's integrated into LTSP and launches locally by default.
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| 18:44 | <alkisg> A "local terminal" is completely different from a "gnome terminal"
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| 18:46 | <Alex_____> Ok. I'll be sure to try this when I
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| 18:47 | get in front of the server.
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| 18:47 | If it works and I connect, what's the next step? Likewise, if it doesn't work, what could be the issues?
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| 18:51 | <alkisg> IRC usually is helpful for troubleshooting specific issues
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| 18:51 | For general questions, there's the ubuntu ltsp wiki
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| 18:51 | You could read some cases that can go wrong there
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| 18:52 | There's also the irclogs in the topic and the ltsp mailing list
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| 18:52 | You can find 100 things that can go wrong there, if you want to look for what could be wrong
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| 18:52 | <Alex_____> Fair enough, sorry :)
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| 18:52 | I came here because to be honest, I'm at my wits end with this thing. I've been at it forever. I'm just happy to have a new lead to follow.
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| 18:53 | <alkisg> One example is "rdesktop.sh missing"
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| 18:53 | <alkisg> Another is "no routing from your thin client to the vm server"
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| 18:53 | Lots of possible issues, it would take hours to cover all the "what if"s
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| 18:54 | <Alex_____> Yes your right, bit of a dumb question.
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| 19:02 | Lastly, thanks!
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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