IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 19 August 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:14 | <hughessd> is anyone around to field a question?
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| 00:15 | I rebooted our LTSP and now have no internet access, even though other machines attached to the same router can get out.
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| 00:15 | why could this be happening?
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| 00:22 | <abeehc-_> hughessd: dns working on the client?
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| 00:22 | <hughessd> um
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| 00:23 | not sure
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| 00:23 | that is what i supposed was happening
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| 00:23 | but honestly I don't know how to check/change it in LTSP
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| 00:23 | from my laptop (attached through the router), i can ping www.google.com
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| 00:23 | but from a terminal on a client, no dice
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| 00:31 | <hughessd> cat resolv.conf shows there's nothing in the file
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| 00:36 | <cyberorg> hughessd, echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf
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| 00:40 | <abeehc-_> are you doing localapps?
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| 00:43 | <johnny> hughessd, i just let you dhcp server tell the client which one to use
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| 00:43 | for local i mean
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| 00:45 | <hughessd> abeehc: no localapps
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| 00:45 | cyberorg: it explicitly says not to hand edit...don't wanna break it
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| 00:51 | i did it
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| 00:51 | and it worked
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| 00:51 | thank you cyberorg
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| 00:51 | and others, for the quick replies
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| 00:51 | <cyberorg> hi johnny :)
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| 00:51 | <hughessd> its 11pm here and i was bout at my wits end
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| 00:51 | <johnny> hughessd, it won't get saved that way
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| 00:52 | hello cyberorg
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| 00:52 | <hughessd> yeah thats what i figured
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| 00:52 | but it doesn't get cleared out until a reboot, right?
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| 00:52 | <johnny> well sure
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| 00:52 | <cyberorg> hughessd, is that in your thin client or the server?
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| 00:52 | <hughessd> or "networking restart"
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| 00:52 | that was the server
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| 00:52 | <johnny> but it's possible for it to be saved, if you set the right values in the server chroot
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| 00:53 | or have your dhcp server serve it
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| 00:53 | <hughessd> on the network, the thinClients get IPs from dhcp, the other IPs are all static
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| 00:54 | my LTSP setup has 2 NICs
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| 00:56 | so how can it get it to automatically save on the server even after a reboot?
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| 00:57 | <cyberorg> on the server i use chattr +i /path/to/file that i do not want modified automatically
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| 01:01 | <hughessd> ok. thankyou again cyberorg.
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| 01:01 | im going to get going now. its been a long night.
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| 01:01 | thank you all for your help.
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| 02:00 | <gnunux> hi
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| 02:03 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 02:56 | <fluvvell> I'm getting can't open authorization file on the server log, as the client attempts to mount the block device from nbd, is anyone familiar with this ?
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| 02:57 | on ubuntu10.04
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| 03:03 | <fluvvell> specifically, my system is not mounting the exported file system from the server.
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| 03:16 | <fluvvell> Does the nbd-server have some issues with authentication by the client wanting to mount the block device?
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| 04:19 | <alkisg> (12:13:49 μμ) calvino.freenode.net: (notice) Server Terminating. Received SIGTERM ==> sounds like freenode is having serious problems...
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| 09:02 | <arx> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 w/ LTSP with 1 NIC. I'm having to use XDM_DIRECTX=YES (so I can run remote apps with rsh). Now I don't know if this is a problem with using LDM_DIRECTX=True or not, but when I have them turn on "Remote Desktop" it shows the server's IP not the terminal IP. Any way to fix this, or another way to remote to the box so I can train them (they are 4 hours away).
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| 09:05 | <alkisg_> LDM_DIRECTX has to do with X traffic, it's not related to rsh
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| 09:05 | All apps in LTSP run on the ltsp server, that's why the server IP shows
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| 09:06 | You just want to share a vnc screen with them?
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| 09:06 | <arx> yes
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| 09:06 | <alkisg_> The first vino-server instance is on 5900, the second on 5901 etc
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| 09:06 | All those on the server (even if they login on terminals)
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| 09:07 | So you should be able to connect to those ports - why can't you?
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| 09:07 | If they're behind routers etc you'd need port forwarding, I suppose you took care of that...
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| 09:07 | <arx> I didn't try different ports.
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| 09:08 | <alkisg_> If you didn't port forward, you could use empathy (it has a share-desktop feature) or reverse vnc connections instead
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| 09:09 | <arx> ooh, those are good suggestions :)
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| 09:10 | so, going back a step.... every terminal will increase the port # (5900, 5901, etc)... so do I use the servers IP with the different port # to get to the terminals?
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| 09:11 | <alkisg_> Yes, assuming we're talking about vino-server and not some other program.
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| 09:12 | <arx> cool
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| 09:14 | thx! this gives me something to go on. Let me experiment and if I have any other questions/problems I will come back.... thanks!!!
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| 09:14 | <alkisg_> Sure. For reverse vnc connections, *you* need to port forward 5500, they run x11vnc -connect <your-ip>, and you run vncviewer -listen
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| 09:15 | <arx> ya, I have limited experience with reverse vnc, so that info will help.
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| 10:09 | <dgroos> I'm moving my ltsp server from my home where I had it setup and working to school.
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| 10:10 | I'm following the directions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT/ to get internet on a client.
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| 10:12 | <dgroos> Clients boot. Firefox on the server works. Oddly, pinging www.ubuntu.com from terminal at the server doesn't work.
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| 10:12 | Firefox on client can't access internet.
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| 10:13 | Also strangely, I've got internet access on the test PC.
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| 10:14 | So, would someone help me figure why I can't ping the internet on the server but can get to it via Firefox? I think that's #1.
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| 10:30 | <alkisg_> dgroos: does `w3m www.ubuntu.com` from a terminal work?
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| 10:30 | <dgroos> yes
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| 10:37 | <dgroos> alkisg_: also, I can access ubuntu via Firefox using either name or ip address.
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| 10:39 | <dgroos> alkisg_: Also, I can ping the DNS server via terminal on the server.
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| 10:39 | <alkisg_> dgroos: then, maybe something in your network cuts the icmp packets to specific destinations, don't worry about it...
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| 10:41 | <alkisg_> Get a localxterm on the client and check your dns server etc from there
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| 10:41 | !localxterm
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| 10:41 | <ltspbot> alkisg_: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
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| 10:47 | <dgroos> alkisg_: I ran ip route and it says: 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.22 default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0. Something here?
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| 10:48 | <alkisg_> I don't know your ip settings, but try: ping 209.85.135.99
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| 10:49 | (that's google.com for me) - if you get "no route to host" then it's a routing problem
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| 10:49 | or, ping your dns server
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| 10:51 | <dgroos> is my DNS server on the client the WAN DNS or the ltsp DNS? Do I even have DNS server on LTSP?
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| 10:53 | I tried the ping you mentioned and it didn't give message but just did nothing and when I control-C it just said... 100% packet loss...
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| 10:53 | <alkisg_> cat /etc/resolv.conf tells you your dns server
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| 10:53 | It's set either by the dhcp server or by your lts.conf
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| 10:54 | <dgroos> (just tried pinging the WAN DNS on the xterm and it worked...)
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| 10:55 | <alkisg_> ok, next, try: dig www.ubuntu.com
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| 10:56 | see if you get an answer section, e.g. www.ubuntu.com. 224 IN A 91.189.89.88
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| 10:56 | <dgroos> Arggg! just figured out that I didn't modify my lts.conf (thanks for mentioning it) and I think that's the prob... I'll let you know.
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| 10:57 | <alkisg_> Normally the dns server is set by dhcpd.conf
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| 10:57 | setting it in lts.conf is only needed if you have a bad dhcp setup
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| 10:57 | <dgroos> should I check dhcpd.conf first?
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| 10:58 | <alkisg_> Yes
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| 10:58 | You should have your dns server there
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| 10:58 | (probably not, I mean you should put it there :))
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| 10:59 | <dgroos> Which copy, /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf or /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf?
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| 11:00 | (glad you told me in time, I was starting to dismantle my HD... ;)
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| 11:02 | <alkisg_> /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf :)
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| 11:02 | e.g. option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.100;
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| 11:04 | <dgroos> should I have the WAN DNS there?
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| 11:06 | <alkisg_> Yes
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| 11:06 | (whatever you have in the server /etc/resolv.conf)
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| 11:09 | <dgroos> Yes, does have WAN DNS there, same as in resolv.conf
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| 11:12 | <alkisg_> I'm not sure I got you there, you mean that you already had the dns server in your dhcpd.conf?
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| 11:14 | <dgroos> Yes, the option domain-name-servers in the ltsp/dhcpd.conf is the same as in the resolv.conf, our WAN DNS.
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| 11:14 | <alkisg_> And on the localxterm, if you cat /etc/resolv.conf, you don't see that dns server there?
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| 11:15 | <dgroos> correct, it is the information from my house (the network where I set up the server). Should I rebuild the chroot for some reason?
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| 11:18 | <alkisg_> No, check your lts.conf
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| 11:19 | That old dns server isn't stored on the chroot, it's coming from somewhere else, so if it's not dhcpd.conf then it must be lts.conf...
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| 11:20 | <dgroos> Yes, as I mentioned, the lts.conf in the tftboot does have the old info and you said that was a sign that my dhcpd.conf wasn't set up correctly?
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| 11:22 | <alkisg_> Erm, what I meant/mean is: dhcpd.conf is the correct place to put the dns server,
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| 11:22 | BUT lts.conf overrides dhcpd.conf
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| 11:23 | So, if you have put it in lts.conf, either change it, or delete it from there and put it to dhcpd.conf
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| 11:24 | <dgroos> Ahhh... seems it's more eloquent to delete it from lts.conf I'll do that, then restart dhcp?
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| 11:25 | <alkisg_> If I understood you correctly, and you already have the dns server in dhcp, you don't even need to restart it
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| 11:26 | Just delete the old lts.conf entry
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| 11:27 | <dgroos> and it works D:
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| 11:27 | ooops! :D
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| 11:27 | Again, alkisg, you ARE the man!
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| 11:27 | Thanks so much!
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| 11:30 | <alkisg_> You're welcome :)
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| 11:31 | <dgroos> Now, I'm about to attempt to persuade our district internet engineer to try and get LDAP working on my server.
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| 11:33 | <dgroos> I've read that this is tough on ubuntu so does anyone out there have a preferred product or wiki page that will help?
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| 12:12 | <gurkhali69> " sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///mnt --security --mirror file:///mnt " after entering this commend in terminal...the process always terminates with an error/
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| 12:12 | can anyone help me plz?
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| 12:19 | <johnny> nobody can help you without an error
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| 12:19 | with the error
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| 12:19 | seriously .. think about it.. who can help pyou with an error you never tell
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| 12:19 | <gurkhali69> johnny: how can i fix it i meant? r u trying 2 make fun out of it
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| 12:20 | <johnny> help you fix what
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| 12:20 | <gurkhali69> that error
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| 12:20 | <johnny> what error?
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| 12:20 | next time, state the error plainly, don't make me drag it out of you
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| 12:20 | <gurkhali69> i am suppse to do deployment of LTSP in a remote village where internet connection is not available
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| 12:20 | so i have 2 use CD n ISO images
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| 12:21 | ok johnny...firstly, I mounted the ISO of alternatvie Cd of ubuntu 10.04 and then added it in the softwares sorces
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| 12:22 | then i installed the server using : sudo ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server
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| 12:22 | this command finished all the tasks without any error
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| 12:23 | then i entered another command: sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///mnt --security --mirror file:///mnt
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| 12:24 | <johnny> aren't they 2 different cds?
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| 12:24 | they would need 2 different mount paths
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| 12:24 | <gurkhali69> the process terminated with an error
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| 12:25 | i not using any cds
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| 12:25 | i only used iso file
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| 12:25 | i already have ubuntu 10.04 installed in my computer
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| 12:25 | <johnny> i don't think yoru --mirror file:///mnt stuff is right
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| 12:26 | alkisg_, isn't there a command to use the the server's stuff?
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| 12:26 | <gurkhali69> ltsp-build-client
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| 12:26 | uses server's stuff
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| 12:26 | <johnny> i don't think that's what you want to use
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| 12:27 | <gurkhali69> but there will be no internet where I am gonna install LTSP system...so I am supposed to learn how to install without use of internet
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| 12:27 | <johnny> well, just stick around, somebody can answer that
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| 12:27 | i'm just not familiar how to do it properly with debian/ubuntu
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| 12:27 | <gurkhali69> plz accept my screenshot file
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| 12:28 | <johnny> i cannot, i can only tell you to hang out here until somebody can properly answer the question you explained
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| 12:28 | <gurkhali69> yes thank you for your time
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| 15:45 | <litercola> anyone here?
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| 15:46 | <johnny> !ask
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| 15:46 | <ltspbot> johnny: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 15:48 | <litercola> gotcha, i installed an ubuntu ltsp server with the alternate cd, and i am having some networking problems, my interfaces will not come up reliably
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| 15:49 | i keep getting an RTNELINK answers: No such process, and many times eth1 doesn't come up at all
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| 19:06 | <fluvvell> can anyone help me with ubuntu 10.04 serving ndb-server block device ? The client fails to load and server log says read failed child exited with 1
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| 19:10 | In fact the nbd-client program is prompting me Negotiation: - Why would this be ?
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| 19:22 | <fluvvell> does anyone here use nbd-server with ltsp ?
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| 19:26 | <abeehc-_> i do! ithink
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| 19:27 | maybe not at least never seen that problem
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| 20:20 | <fluvvell> abeehc-_ : do you use ubuntu 10.04 ?
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| 22:11 | <johnny> everybody who uses ubuntu does fluvvell
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| 22:24 | <fluvvell> just looking for some answers, actually I have several machines, one server with 8.04 and one server/desktop with 10.04 and a few others, laptops and desktops running 10.04.
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| 22:34 | <fluvvell> but I'm having problems serving up nbd-server
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| 22:49 | <johnny> well, you shouldn't have to do anything, it should work out of the box
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| 22:49 | of course.. if you added nbd-server manually, it might break ltsp
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| 22:50 | fluvvell, really tho, if you want good support, come back in about 6 hours
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| 22:50 | this is late night for most of the people, so you're not going to get good help
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| 22:50 | by the people.. i mean ltsp people
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| 22:53 | <fluvvell> yeah, sorry, its late afternoon here - I'm not sure where most people live so its tricky
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| 22:56 | <johnny> western europe or usa
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| 22:56 | this channel tends to be only active during business hours of those time zones
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| 22:56 | <fluvvell> I see.
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| 22:56 | <johnny> perhaps you'll get luckiy in the next 3
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| 22:56 | some people show up early
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| 22:56 | just letting you know
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| 22:56 | you should idle
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