IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 9 October 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:00 | <alkisg> stgraber: new ldm release in unstable ^, it's a bug fixing release for thin clients with LDM_DIRECTX=True, you may want to sync that in Wily
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| 02:32 | (although syncing ltsp is waaaay more significant, LTSP in Wily is completely broken now...)
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| 07:46 | <tootai> Hello
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| 07:48 | Alkis Georgopoulos ask me to connect to this channel as I face a connection problem with Ubuntu 14.04.3 and LTSP from ts.sch.gr ppa
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| 07:49 | Client is a Raspberry Pi with BerryTerminal. Connection fail with
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| 07:49 | Oct 8 19:11:25 TOO-LTSP x-session-manager[2980]: WARNING: software acceleration check failed: Child process exited with code 1 Oct 8 19:11:25 TOO-LTSP x-session-manager[2980]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
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| 07:49 | <alkisg> Hello tootai
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| 07:49 | The client doesn't have a new ltsp version then, right?
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| 07:50 | <tootai> It should, should I send you the ltsp-info output ?
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| 07:50 | <alkisg> I saw it in the mail, but it didn't report anything about armhf
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| 07:50 | Doesn't rpi use armhf?
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| 07:51 | You have an i386 chroot, but it's not the one you're using with the rpi
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| 07:51 | Right?
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| 07:51 | <tootai> Remember, it's BerryTerminal, not a raspbian or other Pi distribution
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| 07:52 | <alkisg> I don't know berryterminal. If it's rpi, it's arm, not i386
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| 07:52 | <tootai> Anyway, the problem lies on gnome-session manager and x-session-manager: usin xfce4-session-manager make thinks working like expected
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| 07:52 | <alkisg> You can't run i386 software in an arm processor
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| 07:52 | If you try with an updated ltsp, it should work
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| 07:52 | But you have an old ltsp in your arm chroot
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| 07:53 | <tootai> so chrott && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, right ?
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| 07:53 | <alkisg> No
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| 07:53 | You need a repository with an up to date ltsp
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| 07:53 | Ubuntu PPAs don't have software for ARM devices
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| 07:53 | I don't know where you can find an updated ltsp for arm
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| 07:54 | If you try with an i386 client it should work
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| 07:54 | It won't work with rpi until you find a newer ltsp for that
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| 07:56 | A new LDM has just been released in Debian, it should be available in the debian repositories in 10 days
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| 07:57 | A new LTSP will probably be released in a few days in Debian as well
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| 07:58 | <tootai2> alkisg, sorry, the web client not being friendly, I had to switch to XChat
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| 07:58 | <alkisg> See irclogs.ltsp.org in case you missed something
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| 08:00 | <tootai2> alkisg: as using xfce4-session-manager is OK, problem isn't connected to arm from Pi, but really on [x|gnome]-session-manager
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| 08:01 | <alkisg> tootai2, so you think that when I saw the bug in the code and I fixed and I tested it I didn't know what I was doing and you are right now?
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| 08:01 | Cool
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| 08:01 | tootai2: read the fix: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ldm-trunk/revision/1577
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| 08:02 | <tootai2> No, you know what you do, I know. My question is why by just changing the session-manager make things work
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| 08:02 | <alkisg> Because one is using 3d and the other isn't
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| 08:06 | <tootai2> if I adapt the script with the fix it should work ?
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| 08:06 | <alkisg> There are other fixes from the ltsp side, so probably no
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| 08:06 | there's ldm code and ltsp code, in another site
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| 08:06 | !ltsp-trunk
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| 08:06 | <ltsp> ltsp-trunk: The LTSP code is at https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk
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| 08:09 | <alkisg> You can try if you like, I don't remember exactly, there's one possibility it will work...
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| 08:19 | > These, along with r2646 from ltsp-client, make Unity work for both thin and fat clients in Ubuntu 14.04, and possibly fix other DE issues as well.
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| 08:19 | So you need r2646 from ltsp as well
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| 08:20 | <tootai2> the http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ldm-trunk/revision/1577 is already applied in my X50-generave-env
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| 08:20 | <alkisg> Where, in the rpi or in the i386 chroot?
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| 08:20 | I think you're missing a step there
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| 08:21 | <tootai2> i386 chroot
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| 08:21 | <alkisg> The PIs don't use the i386 chroot at all
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| 08:21 | So you can delete it completely
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| 08:21 | You have an ARM chroot somewhere, maybe even in the SD cards
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| 08:21 | That is what needs to be updated
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| 08:26 | <tootai2> alkisg, with berryterminal which is a thin client, all is done by the server. It's just a terminal
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| 08:26 | <alkisg> tootai2: thank you for explaining this to me, I'll change the code accordingly :)
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| 08:27 | tootai2: terminals have code
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| 08:27 | I write a part of that code, it's called ltsp
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| 08:27 | And it needs to be updated *before* it connects to the server
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| 08:27 | The ltsp and ldm scripts that are *in the sd card* need to be updated
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| 08:28 | Put the sd card in your PC and run ls, you'll see the files
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| 08:28 | <tootai2> OK, sorry :-(
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| 08:52 | <alkisg> tootai2: did you find where you have your chroot? Is it in your SD cards? Or have you transferred it in /opt/ltsp/images?
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| 09:47 | <tootai2> alkisg: I checked on the SD card, just found the files for berry terminal like command.txt aso. I have /etc/with passwd and group and binaries, others directory are almost empty
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| 11:52 | <alkisg> tootai: does the sd card have one partition or two?
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| 11:53 | And what files do you have in the server's /opt/ltsp/images?
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| 11:53 | And what dirs in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp?
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| 11:58 | Your chroot is somewhere, you just need to find it
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| 11:59 | The operating system for the client to boot, ltsp-client to configure it, the login screen ldm, all those are in the chroot (and it's not the i386 chroot)
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| 11:59 | This is what you need to find and update
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| 12:02 | The server programs only run after you login, all the things that you see before that are in the chroot
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| 12:14 | <tootai> alkisg, my sdcard has 2 partitions: berryboot and another of 66 MB
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| 12:15 | beerryboot has 4 dir: /data /images /shared /tmp
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| 12:16 | in that dir I have 5 dirs: /etc /root /tmp /usr /var
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| 12:18 | <tootai> sorry, one phase is missing before the 5 dirs: in /data I have dir /LTSP_thinclient_BerryTeminal.img and one file /default
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> So there it is
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| 12:18 | How big is it?
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| 12:18 | `du -sh file` tells you the size
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| 12:25 | <tootai> dh@deex:/media/dh/berryboot/data$ sudo du -sh LTSP_thinclient_BerryTerminal.img/
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| 12:25 | 112K LTSP_thinclient_BerryTerminal.img/
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| 12:25 | <alkisg> K or M?
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| 12:25 | <tootai> K
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| 12:25 | <alkisg> That's not it then
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| 12:25 | Maybe in /images?
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| 12:26 | tootai: is that SD card now inserted on your server?
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| 12:26 | If so, do this for remote support so that we finish this faster:
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| 12:26 | !vnc-dide
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| 12:26 | <ltsp> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 12:28 | <tootai> in /images I have dh@deex:/media/dh/berryboot/images$ sudo du -sh LTSP_thinclient_BerryTerminal.img
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| 12:28 | 23M LTSP_thinclient_BerryTerminal.img
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| 12:28 | dh@deex:/media/dh/berryboot/images$
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| 12:29 | SD card is connected to my laptop using a card reader
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| 12:31 | x11vnc is launhed
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| 12:31 | *launched
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| 12:35 | I am
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| 12:35 | <alkisg> tootai: did you see the contents of this image?
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| 12:35 | <tootai> yes
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| 12:35 | <alkisg> This has a very old version of ltsp
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| 12:35 | That's what you need to update
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| 12:36 | But it will be difficult as it seems that berry terminal uses a bundled ltsp, not one you can update
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| 12:36 | So if berryterminal doesn't ship a newer version, you need to install ltsp in a different way, not with berry terminal
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| 12:37 | <tootai> I understand. I will see with raspbian then
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| 12:37 | <alkisg> let me unmount the img for you
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| 12:37 | get me to the shell
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| 12:37 | Close vnc with ctrl+C
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| 12:38 | <tootai> done
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| 12:39 | many thanks for your support, I will tthen try another way
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 14:09 | <StolenToast> I'm having trouble with a pxe boot and kickstart download. I was told you might be able to help me. /go what
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| 14:09 | woop
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| 14:26 | <bennabiy> StolenToast: You might do better if you give a little more info. (Distro etc)
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| 14:26 | StolenToast: also, is this LTSP related, or just a general question about PXE booting?
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| 14:27 | <StolenToast> I solved the problem, I just hadn't cleared my terminal
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| 14:27 | this was from yesterday
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| 14:27 | <bennabiy> ah
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| 15:57 | <Cristian-> hi everybody
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| 15:58 | ltsp clients are not showing the boot screen...
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| 15:58 | it works on the vmware virtual client i've created, but not on phisical
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| 16:13 | <maldridge> perhaps you have a break in your network?
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| 16:14 | <Cristian-> it works nice
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| 16:14 | no problem
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| 16:14 | client boots normal
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| 16:15 | <maldridge> then what is the issue?
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| 16:17 | <Cristian-> i want to see the boot screen
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| 16:17 | the ubuntu or whatever i configure
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| 16:18 | my ltsp clients work fine now, im configuren an updated ltsp server
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| 16:18 | and there is the problem
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| 16:25 | <maldridge> hm, I have to go to a meeting, but if you ping the channel again in a few hours, its generally more alive
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| 18:50 | <bennabiy> !bennabiy_todo
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| 18:50 | <ltsp> bennabiy_todo: Finish patching LinuxMint code to detect NON mint chroot build requests on mint, and to build a mint chroot on non mint server.
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| 18:50 | <bennabiy> hrm
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| 18:51 | !bennabiy-todo
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| 18:51 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'bennabiy-todo', but I do know about these similar topics: 'bennabiy_todo'
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| 18:51 | <bennabiy> !mint
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| 18:51 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'mint', but I do know about these similar topics: 'LinuxMint', 'mint17'
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| 18:51 | <bennabiy> !mint17
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| 18:51 | <ltsp> mint17: ppa:bennabiy/testing contains updated packages which are already patched for mint 17.
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