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Channel log from 12 July 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:01 | <shogunx> ahoy
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| 04:01 | !seen vagrantc
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| 04:01 | <ltsp`> vagrantc was last seen in #ltsp 10 hours, 31 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <vagrantc> what distro?
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| 05:23 | <Hyperbyte> Yo!
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| 10:34 | <xiphias256> I also experience tearing on the login-screen, when using the opensource nv driver on Ubuntu 14.04. It displays fine if you do a login -> logout
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| 10:35 | <DJUnreal> Hey all, hope everyone's well...
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| 10:36 | Got a bit of a weird issue going on with my latest LTSP build (running on Debian testing with the latest versions from the repos, which build a Jessie image) - when a client tries to log in, the screen goes black as if it's starting to process the login, and then returns to the login screen
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| 10:36 | <xiphias256> does anyone have any luck using Likewise/PBIS in a thick client setup?
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| 10:36 | <DJUnreal> I don't seem to be able to get rsyslog talking back to my server (suspect that's a side-issue though), but wondered if anyone's seen this before?
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| 10:37 | <xiphias256> DJUnreal: Something wrong with username/passord?
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| 10:37 | <DJUnreal> negative - tested it on a local shell on the server, works fine, but won't on the client
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| 10:37 | no error messages are displayed either unfortunately
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| 10:38 | <xiphias256> Are you running a thick or thin client?
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| 10:38 | <DJUnreal> i've enabled fatclient support, but i'm not sure if it's trying to run fat or thin
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| 10:42 | <xiphias256> if your lts.conf contains fatclient=true, it is running as a fat client. Then your login account needs to exist in the image, not on the server.
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| 10:43 | <DJUnreal> ohh! excellent!
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| 10:43 | thanks :D
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| 10:43 | I shall sort that!
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| 10:43 | <xiphias256> your welcome! :)
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| 10:45 | <DJUnreal> i guess to add users to the local image
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| 10:46 | i've got to set up the /etc/passwd inside the ltsp chroot
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| 10:46 | right?
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| 10:46 | (and the other req's - /etc/shadow, /home/x etc)
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| 10:52 | i've explicitly disabled fatclient support, and it's still doing the same thing... i'll try adding the users to the image and see what happens
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| 11:15 | hrmm
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| 11:15 | that didn't fix it either
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| 11:15 | tried running with fatclient=true with users in chroot/etc/passwd and chroot/etc/shadow
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| 11:15 | tried fatclient=false
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| 11:15 | still no dice
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| 11:40 | <alkisg> DJUnreal: It's LTSP_FATCLIENT=True/False, not fatclient=true/false
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| 11:41 | Also, don't create users in the chroot, even for fat clients
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| 11:41 | !screen_02
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| 11:41 | <ltsp`> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 11:41 | <alkisg> You can get local access that ^ way
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| 11:42 | <DJUnreal> okay... so where do i create the users for fat clients?
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| 11:44 | and yeah, i was using LTSP_FATCLIENT (as per the manpage! :) )
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| 11:53 | ok
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| 11:53 | i'm seeing a load of mei_me timeouts
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| 11:53 | !mei_me
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| 11:53 | <ltsp`> Error: "mei_me" is not a valid command.
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| 11:55 | <DJUnreal> bit it does now appear that ldm is restarting as soon as i try to log in
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| 11:58 | the user is there, and i can id it and see it's there
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| 12:08 | <DJUnreal> ooh big nasty netsplit
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| 12:10 | <alkisg> DJUnreal: you create the users on the server
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| 12:10 | !screen_02
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| 12:10 | <ltsp`> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 12:10 | <alkisg> From there, try `ssh user@server`
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| 12:10 | And see if it works
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| 12:11 | If it does, try the xterm session, selecting it from the LDM preferences menu
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| 12:11 | <DJUnreal> ok
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| 12:11 | conn refused
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| 12:11 | that may be it
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| 12:20 | <DJUnreal> alkisg: i think i cracked it
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| 12:21 | the idiot who built the OS for me
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| 12:21 | moved sshd to 2222
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| 12:21 | instead of just NAT'ing it on his router
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| 12:22 | but apparently that hasn't sorted it either
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> ssh user@server works now?
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| 12:23 | <DJUnreal> yep
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> From vt2?
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| 12:23 | <DJUnreal> i assume doing server as an ip address is fine
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| 12:23 | yes, from vt2
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> No
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| 12:23 | Write "server"
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| 12:23 | Don't change the hostname at all
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> Don't use the real hostname, use "server"
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| 12:24 | Did you get a prompt about trusting the server?
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| 12:24 | <DJUnreal> yep
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| 12:24 | that worked too
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| 12:24 | no prompt
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| 12:24 | just "enter password"
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| 12:24 | which i did
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| 12:24 | and it works
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| 12:24 | <alkisg> OK switch to ldm and try to login
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| 12:24 | <DJUnreal> same thing
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| 12:24 | ldm restarts
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| 12:24 | <alkisg> Now do this on the server: tail -f /var/log/auth.log
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| 12:24 | And try on ldm again
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| 12:25 | if you see successful login, then you're fine wrt LDM
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| 12:25 | And you move on to checking the session, xorg etc
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| 12:25 | I.e. back to vt2 and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, /var/log/ldm.log...
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| 12:26 | Remember to try the xterm session first
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| 12:26 | <DJUnreal> i see session opened for user sisuser1 by (uid=0)
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| 12:26 | so that's working i guess
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| 12:26 | but then session closed almost immediately after
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| 12:26 | <alkisg> uid=0?
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| 12:26 | Are you trying to login as root?
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| 12:27 | <DJUnreal> no
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| 12:27 | <alkisg> Ah ok it's standard sshd
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| 12:27 | Ignore that, go on
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| 12:27 | Are you trying the xterm session?
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| 12:29 | <DJUnreal> stby
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| 12:30 | yeah
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| 12:31 | there's no ldm.log on the local machine
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| 12:31 | ah wait, you said server
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| 12:31 | <alkisg> DJUnreal: no, client
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| 12:31 | The logs => locally
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| 12:31 | First check xorg
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| 12:31 | And, lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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| 12:31 | Which distro/version was that?
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| 12:31 | <DJUnreal> there's no ldm.log
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| 12:32 | <alkisg> (03:31:24 μμ) alkisg: First check xorg
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| 12:32 | (03:31:29 μμ) alkisg: And, lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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| 12:32 | (03:31:36 μμ) alkisg: Which distro/version was that?
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| 12:32 | <DJUnreal> i see a VGA device
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| 12:32 | with the lspci
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| 12:32 | i'm using debian testing (the latest
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| 12:32 | )
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| 12:33 | <alkisg> Yes, mention the pci model here
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| 12:33 | <DJUnreal> with the latest version of ltsp, which is building jessie images
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| 12:33 | <alkisg> E.g. it's known that sis has issue with recent xorg versions
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| 12:33 | <DJUnreal> Intel Corp 4 series chipset Integrated Graphics
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| 12:33 | <]oscar> Hi! I need a folder under /mnt, but I didn't find a way... at reboot I always obtain an empty /mnt
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| 12:33 | <alkisg> DJUnreal: ls /usr/share/xsessions/
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| 12:33 | (client)
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| 12:33 | And, getltscfg -a
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| 12:33 | ==>pastebin
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| 12:34 | ]oscar: man lts.conf, check FSTAB_x
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| 12:34 | !lts.conf
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| 12:34 | <ltsp`> lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 12:34 | <DJUnreal> hrmm
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| 12:34 | on the client there's no /usr/share/xsessions
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| 12:34 | <alkisg> DJUnreal: are you trying to get a fat client or a thin?
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| 12:34 | Because for fats, you need a DE in the chroot
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| 12:35 | <DJUnreal> it does the same as a thin
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| 12:35 | but currently it's a fat (and appears to not like it)
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| 12:35 | <alkisg> Previously for thins you had sshd issues
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| 12:35 | Now for fats you don't have a DE
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| 12:36 | Try again without anything in lts.conf
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| 12:36 | I.e. LTSP_FATCLIENT=False, the default
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| 12:36 | <DJUnreal> ok
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| 12:36 | <]oscar> sorry: I added my FSTAB_0 option, but I need to mount a share under /mnt/backend folder. And mant never contain the "backed" folder...
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| 12:37 | <DJUnreal> just testing
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| 12:37 | stby
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| 12:37 | (this is all made more fun by the fact that i'm sat in a tent in a field!)
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> ]oscar: try this on your server: $ grep mnt /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.excludes
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| 12:39 | <DJUnreal> ltsp_fatclient is false
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| 12:39 | still getting the same thing
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> If you see /mnt there, and if you're using nbd, remove it, then create the subdir, then run ltsp-update-image again
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| 12:40 | DJUnreal: output of `getltscfg -a` ?
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| 12:40 | <]oscar> alkisg, ok!
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| 12:40 | <DJUnreal> LTSP_CONFIG="True"
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| 12:40 | SOUND="False"
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| 12:41 | LOCALDEV="FALSE"
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| 12:41 | err
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| 12:41 | False
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| 12:41 | Configure_X="False"
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| 12:41 | SERVER="10.0.0.1"
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| 12:41 | LTSP_FATCLIENT="False"
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| 12:41 | LDM_DIRECTX="True"
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| 12:41 | LDM_SYSLOG="True"
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| 12:42 | ahh hrmm
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| 12:42 | it's trying to use LDM_SESSION="openbox"
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| 12:42 | that's probably not right
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| 12:42 | <alkisg> Try with an empty lts.conf first :)
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| 12:42 | <DJUnreal> like a totally blank file?
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| 12:42 | i assume i need to define server etc...
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| 12:44 | <alkisg> Not an empty file, a non-existing file
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| 12:44 | mv lts.conf /backups
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| 12:44 | The boot server is assumed to be the login server as well
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| 12:45 | <DJUnreal> ok
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| 12:47 | okay, we have progress
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| 12:47 | xterm doesn't work, but it fell back to its "default session" and works...
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| 12:47 | guess i need to add lines one at a time until it stops working
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| 12:48 | thankls alkisg!
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> You're welcome :)
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| 12:55 | <DJUnreal> tell you what
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| 12:55 | the amount of help you've given me this last year or so
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| 12:55 | if i ever get to meet you in person, i owe you a large quantity of beer
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| 12:55 | <]oscar> alkisg, thanks a lot! You solved my problem :)
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| 12:56 | * alkisg accepts beer donations via paypal, alkisg at gmail :P | |
| 12:56 | <]oscar> :D
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| 12:57 | <DJUnreal> i can't exactly post you a crate :P
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| 12:57 | <]oscar> Bye!
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| 12:58 | <DJUnreal> gotta say... if i can get fatclient to play nice (guess i need to find a guide for that), i'll be well happy
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| 12:58 | i assume it's /not/ just as simple as copying the session files into the other folder
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| 13:00 | <alkisg> Install a DE in the chroot and let LTSP_FATCLIENT to default again
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| 13:00 | <DJUnreal> cool
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| 13:00 | i suspected that may be it
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| 19:12 | <DJUnreal> hey all, me again. sorry to be a pain, but somehow my thinclients have no ability to resolve DNS even though the server itself has it (and is also now running dnsmasq, which hasn't made a difference)
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| 19:12 | Anyone ever seen this?
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| 20:08 | <DJUnreal> hey alkisg, welcome back
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| 20:13 | wb to adrianorg too
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| 20:21 | <DJUnreal> wb alkisg1
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| 20:21 | <alkisg1> Hello
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| 20:24 | <alkisg> DJUnreal: thin or fat clients?
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| 20:25 | <DJUnreal> thins
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| 20:25 | i didn't change the config after we got 'em booting earlier
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| 20:25 | <alkisg> So you run lxterminal, and you can ping 8.8.8.8, but `host 8.8.8.8` returns nothing?
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| 20:26 | <DJUnreal> on the server, it all works
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| 20:26 | lemme walk over to a client again, stby
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| 20:27 | ok, the client can't ping through to 8.8.8.8
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| 20:27 | but the server can
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| 20:27 | <alkisg> Do you see user@server there in the prompt?
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| 20:27 | Or user@ltsp123 ?
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| 20:27 | <DJUnreal> neither
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| 20:27 | i just see a $
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| 20:27 | <alkisg> What's the output of `hostname`?
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| 20:27 | <DJUnreal> the client name
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| 20:27 | ltsp121
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| 20:28 | <alkisg> So it's a fat client
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| 20:28 | <DJUnreal> it shouldn't be... the config file is blank!
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| 20:28 | ie doesn't exist
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| 20:28 | <alkisg> The default is to be fat if an xsession exists in the chroot
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| 20:28 | Thin if not
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| 20:28 | <DJUnreal> ahh riiiiiiiiglt
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| 20:28 | right even
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| 20:28 | more handy information i didn't know ;)
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| 20:31 | i shall change that
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| 20:36 | well that's resolved that one
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| 20:38 | thanks again alkisg
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| 23:17 | <metaf5> When I try to PXE boot a client from my server running LTSP I get "An error occured while mounting /sys/fs/fuse/connections. Does anyone have any idea what might be going wrong, or maybe what logs I should check?
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| 23:28 | <vagrantc> what distro?
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| 23:28 | <metaf5> Some random looking shows "nbd_server: Can't open authorization file (null) (Bad address)." in syslog.
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| 23:28 | This is Ubuntu 12.04.
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| 23:34 | The client also says "Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery", but doesn't respond to keypresses.
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