IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 13 January 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:36 | <Appiah> ogra hey you there?
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| 08:49 | <Appiah> ogra: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp-manager/+bug/191280 <-- Nevermind I found it's a already known bug
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| 08:57 | <sbalneav> A very c-c-c-c-cold morning to you all
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| 08:58 | <Gadi> !s
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| 08:58 | <ltspbot`> Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:58 | <sbalneav> Appiah: Don't use ltsp-manager, as it's essentially dead. Use something like iTalc
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| 08:58 | Morning Gadi
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| 08:58 | <Gadi> morning
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| 08:59 | <Appiah> sbalneav: sorry didn't know iTalc could do the things ltsp-manager did
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| 08:59 | <Gadi> oops
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| 08:59 | <ogra> it cant
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| 09:00 | <Appiah> ?
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| 09:00 | <ogra> Appiah, ltsp-manager is nonfunctional
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> gotta be careful what window you type pkill in...
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| 09:00 | :)
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| 09:00 | <ogra> and italc doesnt provide a gui way to edit lts.conf
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| 09:00 | <Appiah> ogra oh oki, is it going to be updated?
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| 09:00 | <ogra> not if nobody adopts it
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| 09:01 | ltsp-manager wasnt developed since two years ... if nobody steps up it wont be
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| 09:01 | <Appiah> you dont feel like maintaining it?
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| 09:01 | you made it right?
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| 09:02 | <ogra> i would love to maintin it, but i dont even have time for ltsp anymore
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| 09:02 | <Appiah> oh =(
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| 09:02 | <ogra> working on a different team in ubuntu now and stgraber largely took over ltsp in ubuntu
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| 09:04 | <sbalneav> ltsp-manager you say?
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| 09:05 | ogra: Do you have a bzr branch for it somewhere?
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| 09:05 | Or should I just start from the latest source?
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| 09:06 | <ogra> bzr get http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/bzr/
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| 09:06 | but thats a very old tree
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| 09:06 | not sure it doesnt break with a recent bzr
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| 09:06 | <sbalneav> ok, I'll have a look over the next few days.
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| 09:06 | <ogra> wow, thanks a lot :)
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| 09:06 | feel free to redo it completely as it fits ... i wont cry a taer for the old code
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| 09:06 | *tear
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| 09:07 | <sbalneav> heh
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| 09:07 | * sbalneav sings softly | |
| 09:07 | <ogra> :)
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| 09:07 | <sbalneav> "Don't shed a tear... no regrets....""
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| 09:07 | <Appiah> cool!
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| 09:07 | <sbalneav> Appiah: Don't hold your breath
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| 09:07 | * Appiah starts breathing again | |
| 09:07 | <Appiah> thanks
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| 09:08 | <ogra> or take a pic if you turn blue :)
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| 09:08 | at east
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| 09:08 | *least
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| 09:08 | <Appiah> I can't really turn blue =/
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| 09:08 | <ogra> if you dont breathe ?
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| 09:09 | <Appiah> yupp
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| 09:11 | <sbalneav> Everyone turns blue
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| 09:11 | then black
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| 09:11 | theb begins to smell
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| 09:11 | eventually you just get very thin and white :)
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| 09:11 | <ogra> heh
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| 09:12 | * ogra remembers this friend he had who always said "smoking makes a slim foot" :) | |
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| 09:22 | <mistik1> sbalneav: I think I would have a very hard time turning blue :)
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| 09:24 | <ogra> stgraber, around for the TB meeting ?
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| 09:24 | you are on the agenda it seems
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| 09:27 | <sbalneav> People of ANY skinn colour turn blue.
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| 09:27 | trust me
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| 09:28 | I work with lawyers
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| 09:28 | criminal lawyers
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| 09:28 | <sbalneav> with crime scene photos.
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| 09:28 | Don't make me show you. Just take it on faith :)
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| 09:29 | <Appiah> Then I just have not been holding my breath long enough
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| 09:29 | and that should be a good thing
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| 09:29 | <mistik1> sbalneav: ok ok, :)
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| 09:45 | <Appiah> I'm a bit confused , I find some text about ltsp-cluster being in main, but it's not ?
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| 10:12 | <CAN-o-SPAM> warren, ping
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| 10:25 | * tobor wonders what the natural crossover point is between LTSP and criminal lawyers... (My God What are we doing?!! ) :-) | |
| 10:25 | <tobor> ( is joke! )
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| 10:30 | <stgraber> ogra: yeah, I actually added that item to the agenda but the TB wasn't scheduled at this point and I didn't see it got scheduled for today
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| 10:31 | ogra: anyway, that's good news
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| 10:31 | ogra: thanks for attending
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| 10:31 | <ogra> yeah, you made it, congrats :)
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| 10:32 | <stgraber> thanks :) Now I can upload that ltsp I have somewhere on my disk
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| 11:02 | <Gadi> stgraber: have they given you more power?
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| 11:03 | just remember what spidey says...
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| 11:55 | <krish> CAN-o-SPAM: there?
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| 11:55 | <CAN-o-SPAM> hi krish
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| 11:56 | <krish> i kinda did some artwork for the ltsp contest, based on the lobster talk we had that day
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| 11:56 | <CAN-o-SPAM> ok?
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| 11:56 | <krish> i cant figure out (for now) where to put the LTSP name :P
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| 11:57 | <CAN-o-SPAM> haha
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| 11:57 | well if you want to e-mail me i'd be glad to take a look
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| 11:57 | * krish waits for imageshack to open | |
| 11:57 | <CAN-o-SPAM> alexc@disklessworkstations.com
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| 11:57 | <krish> okay
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| 12:00 | CAN-o-SPAM: sent. :)
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| 12:01 | * krish waits eagerly and nervously for some response. | |
| 12:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> krish: did you draw that yourself?
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| 12:02 | <krish> !
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| 12:03 | now whatever did that mean!
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| 12:03 | <_UsUrPeR_> I like the eyes on the lobster
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| 12:03 | all googly and whatnot
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| 12:03 | <krish> but but how? I sent the email to CAN-o-SPAM
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| 12:03 | _UsUrPeR_: == CAN-o-SPAM?
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| 12:04 | _UsUrPeR_: so you liked it :*)
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| 12:04 | <_UsUrPeR_> yeah :D
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| 12:04 | I work with can-o-spam
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| 12:04 | same office
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| 12:04 | <krish> oh heh
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| 12:05 | <_UsUrPeR_> I like it :)
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| 12:05 | <krish> you see there are 2 think clients there, one wired and another wireless
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| 12:06 | _UsUrPeR_: I am glad you did :)
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| 12:06 | <CAN-o-SPAM> krish you are quite the artist
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| 12:06 | <krish> nah, i am just learning
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| 12:06 | <CAN-o-SPAM> well the artwork is good
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| 12:06 | can i make some suggestion so it fits more of a "logo" format
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| 12:06 | <krish> :)
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| 12:07 | CAN-o-SPAM: sure
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| 12:07 | <alkisg> I'd like to see the little penguins / big penguin idea with 4 little penguins wearing shirts with the LTSP letters on them... :)
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| 12:07 | <CAN-o-SPAM> ok so logos sometimes are best with a transparent background (so the logo can be put on any other color)
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| 12:08 | ltsp + wireless = not a good combo, so i'd do an "ethernet connection" like you did with the left terminal
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| 12:08 | for using letters LTSP ... not sure where, maybe lobster holds up a sign that says LTSP?
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| 12:08 | <krish> CAN-o-SPAM: I can remove the water layer so that leaves the lobster, server and clients on transparent background
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| 12:09 | <CAN-o-SPAM> krish: also try and make it much smaller (like 500%) and see how it looks too, that will be important
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| 12:09 | krish: ok that is good
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| 12:09 | <krish> I can also do away with the wireless client. do you want that place empty or another wired client there?
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| 12:10 | <CAN-o-SPAM> another wired
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| 12:10 | <krish> ok
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| 12:10 | I'll think of someway to put the LTSP nicely.
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| 12:11 | alkisg: you dont like lobster :)
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| 12:11 | <alkisg> I didn't see the lobster! :) I just saw the penguins and thought it would be nice if they were wearing the letters!
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| 12:12 | Lobster is only for the rich ltsp developers... :P :D We teachers can't afford it! :D
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| 12:13 | <krish> CAN-o-SPAM: with very smaller image, the thin clients are almost disappearing. I guess I will make the sizes bigger (also addresses big penguins for alkisg)
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| 12:14 | thanks for the suggestions. I'll ciao all tomorrow bye
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| 12:15 | <CAN-o-SPAM> great
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| 12:15 | thanks for your great work krish!
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| 12:16 | <krish> my pleasure
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| 12:16 | ciao
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| 12:31 | <Lns> I sure wish everyone used GNUCash instead of QB :( Intuit is shooting themselves in the foot with these new versions and how it deals with client/server communications\
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| 12:36 | <dberkholz> gnucash doesn't do tax forms or accountant exports to quickbooks format. =P
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| 12:39 | <Lns> dberkholz: It could if the right people were behind it (maybe the people who made =< QB 2005) =)
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| 13:00 | <MaTrixKx> buenas a todos
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| 13:00 | espero que alguien entienda espanol
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| 13:01 | tengo la siguiente duda, estoy implementando LTSP en un powerpc, la duda es los clientes tienen que ser de la misma arquitectura o puedo conectar terminales i386
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| 13:01 | si alguien me pudiese contestar lo agradeceria bastante
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| 13:03 | <johnny> ltsp server == powerpc ?
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| 13:03 | <MaTrixKx> johnny, yes it is
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| 13:04 | my clients i386
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| 13:04 | its posible?
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| 13:04 | <johnny> yes
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| 13:04 | si
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| 13:04 | ltsp-build-client on any other i386 machine
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| 13:04 | <MaTrixKx> excelent
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| 13:05 | <johnny> and then copy /opt/ltsp/i386 to the server
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| 13:05 | <MaTrixKx> i use ubuntu in server side
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| 13:05 | in my powerbook G4
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| 13:06 | <johnny> install ubuntu on any i386, run ltsp-build-client , copy that entire folder to the server /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 13:08 | <MaTrixKx> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/powerpc mount -t proc proc /proc
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| 13:08 | error: la instalación del cliente LTSP finalizó de forma anormal
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| 13:08 | diablito@DiaBlito-PowerBook:~$
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| 13:09 | <johnny> hmm?
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| 13:20 | <sbalneav> MaTrixKx: You'll have to create the /opt/ltsp/i386 folder on an i386 machine to gave it work.
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| 13:21 | <MaTrixKx> sbalneav, entiendes espanol??
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| 13:21 | <sbalneav> Nope, sorry.
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| 13:38 | <MaTrixKx> ok then this error that I get
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| 13:45 | <CAN-o-SPAM> warren, ping
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| 13:45 | <warren> pong
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| 14:17 | <MaTrixKx> sbalneav, since I can make to generate the directory i386 within the /opt/LTSP directory
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| 14:19 | friend thanks I have already it with the parameter --arch i386 encontre in man
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| 14:20 | mmmm not works
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| 14:21 | since I can make to generate the LTSP installation in powerpc for clients i386
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| 14:22 | <johnny> you have to use another computer!
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| 14:22 | an i386 computer
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| 14:23 | it is not possible without that
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| 14:30 | <MaTrixKx> that was my question for already some time
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| 14:31 | johnny, tanks
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| 14:32 | see you soon
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| 14:56 | <Gadi> stgraber: ping
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| 14:57 | <stgraber> Gadi: pong
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| 15:00 | <Gadi> hey, there - I have a few things on my LTSP hit list that I want to go over with you
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| 15:00 | lemme know when you have some time
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| 15:01 | basically, they include:
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| 15:01 | 1. Merging by ltspfs-trunk-local into ltspfs-trunk
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| 15:01 | (seems to test well)
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| 15:02 | 2. updating ltsp-genmenu code (could use some testing by you with ltsp-cluster)
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| 15:02 | hmm...
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| 15:02 | I know Im forgetting something
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| 15:03 | anyway, lemme know when you have free cycles
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| 15:09 | <johnny> Gadi, when do you plan on working on dbus stuff with ltsp?
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| 15:09 | <Gadi> johnny: as soon as I learn to spell it
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| 15:09 | :)
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| 15:10 | * Gadi never learned to spell, having missed d-bus | |
| 15:10 | <Gadi> lol
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| 15:11 | * Gadi seems to crack up only himself | |
| 15:11 | <laga> rotfl
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| 15:11 | we got a worse one the other day in #mythtv-users
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| 15:12 | * CAN-o-SPAM croaks over dead from laughing too hard | |
| 15:12 | <_UsUrPeR_> what's the nomenclature in Fedora 10 to use an xorg.conf file? I'm trying to set a virtual display of 3360x1050
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| 15:12 | even better: is there an X_ option I can use in the lts.conf?
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| 15:13 | <Gadi> X_VIRTUAL = "3360 1050" , I believe
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| 15:13 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: that will work in lts.conf? Sweet
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| 15:14 | <Gadi> it should, if warren's got new upstream stuff in there
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| 15:14 | which I know he likes to do
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| 15:14 | :)
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| 15:14 | <warren> although we have ltsp-5.1.44 currently
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| 15:14 | <kc8pxy> johnny: so close, and so far away
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| 15:14 | <warren> and you need to verify the version of ltsp-client in your chroot
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| 15:15 | <Gadi> look to see if there is a: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen-script.d/*virtual*
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| 15:15 | or some such
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| 15:15 | actually, screen-session.d
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| 15:23 | <johnny> kc8pxy, huh?
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| 15:50 | <bill_c> hey all!
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| 15:51 | <warren> Ryan52: how is the state of latest upstream? did anyone complain about anything breaking?
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| 15:52 | <bill_c> after 25 or 30 clients are booted, we start getting: Failed to setup /dev/nbd0 device
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| 15:52 | any ideas?
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| 16:12 | <Lns> bill_c: are you using nbdswap?
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| 16:13 | <bill_c> Lns, yes
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| 16:13 | <Lns> bill_c: could you be running out of room on your server hdd?
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| 16:13 | in /tmp specifically
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| 16:13 | (network swapfiles are kept there)
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| 16:16 | <bill_c> I don't see anything in /tmp that looks like swapfiles, how do I check
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| 16:17 | <johnny> bill_c, how about just df -h
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| 16:17 | <bill_c> just sda1 and udev, 196g free
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| 16:18 | <Lns> bill_c: do the booted TCs otherwise work as expected?
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| 16:18 | Do the affected TCs hang, or give console errors?
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| 16:18 | What distro?
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| 16:18 | <bill_c> only the first 25-30, the others hang at the Failed to setup /dev/nbd0 device, RebootException: error consoles at Alt-F3/F4
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| 16:19 | can't alt f3/4 looks like panic
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| 16:19 | sles10
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| 16:19 | <johnny> kiwi then?
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| 16:19 | <Lns> kiwi-ltsp?
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| 16:19 | <bill_c> yes
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| 16:19 | <johnny> perhaps try #kiwi-ltsp ...
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| 16:19 | if nobody can answer here
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| 16:20 | <Lns> damn it johnny, you're beating me to the punch here
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| 16:20 | lol
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| 16:20 | <johnny> that's cuz i am awesome..DUH
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| 16:20 | hehe
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| 16:20 | <bill_c> hopefully someone can :) only 1 in #kiwi-ltsp
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| 16:21 | <Lns> bill_c: try #kiwi
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| 16:21 | <johnny> hmm.. unlikely Lns
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| 16:21 | kiwi exists outside of ltsp.. it is probably something specific about kiwi-ltsp ..
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| 16:21 | <Lns> johnny: it diverts to #opensuse-kiwi
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| 16:21 | ah..well i dunno then =p
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| 16:22 | <johnny> kiwi is a build system
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| 16:22 | it can even be used to build ubuntu
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| 16:22 | or whatever
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| 16:22 | <Lns> oh
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| 16:22 | <johnny> or any other distro
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| 16:22 | <Lns> well thats redundant =p
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| 16:22 | <johnny> it's not just a nice name for their version of ltsp
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| 16:23 | <alkisg> Well, in http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP it says to go to #kiwi...
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| 16:23 | <Lns> ha!
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| 16:23 | <johnny> i guess they all hang out there
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| 16:23 | <Gadi_eeepc> bill_c: nbd0 should be the rootfs
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| 16:23 | not swap
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| 16:24 | sounds like the nbd server may be having issues
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| 16:24 | grpe your syslog for nbd errors
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| 16:24 | *grep
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| 16:24 | also check your switch
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| 16:25 | <Lns> bill_c: also see https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/kiwi-users/2008-June/000712.html
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| 16:25 | <bill_c> Gadi_eeepc, checking now
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| 16:25 | Lns, started their
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| 16:25 | <Lns> Gadi_eeepc: what eee do you have?
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| 16:26 | <Gadi_eeepc> 901
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| 16:26 | <Lns> oh yeah
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| 16:26 | my 701's S key just started acting up (2 S's for every press)
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| 16:27 | * Gadi_eeepc hugs his eeepc | |
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| 16:29 | <bill_c> thx *guys* for help
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| 16:29 | * bill_c slaps head | |
| 16:29 | <Gadi_eeepc> fix it?
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| 16:29 | <bill_c> was xinetd restrictions
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| 16:30 | <Gadi_eeepc> ah - cap on the number of instances?
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| 16:30 | <Lns> oh wow thats a weird issue
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| 16:31 | * Lns has always liked inetd better | |
| 16:31 | <bill_c> yup and bw, 30 connections, and 50cps
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| 16:31 | <Gadi_eeepc> sometimes the extensions arent as helpful
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| 16:31 | :)
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| 16:32 | <Gadi_eeepc> just remember, even in this day and age where many distros have their own ltsp, we are still just a collection of basic protocols and services
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| 16:32 | :)
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| 16:34 | * Lns remembers the "fun" HOWTOs before distro integration.. install this, put this in conf file..install this, put this in conf file... etc etc | |
| 16:35 | <Lns> Took me like a week to get a TC to boot hehe
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| 16:35 | * bill_c hasn't done ltsp since 4 :( | |
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| 17:14 | <kc8pxy> johnny: i get as far as the tftp part of pxe, and it fails, saying file not found.
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| 17:14 | I've obviously goofed the config, but i don't know how
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| 18:52 | <kc8pxy> johnny: you free?
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| 19:07 | <kc8pxy> hello?
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| 19:09 | <Guest14151> soon
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| 19:18 | <bpun> hi
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| 19:18 | anyone has a recommends for thinclient station hardware? looking for low cost <=150 usd?
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| 19:20 | <Lns> hmm... not a new tc, maybe older/recycled h/w...what are you trying to do on the thinclients?
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| 19:46 | <johnny> kc8pxy, back
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| 19:56 | <Ryan52> 13:51 < warren> Ryan52: how is the state of latest upstream? did anyone complain about anything breaking?
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| 19:56 | uhhh...what? :)
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| 19:59 | <warren> there seemed to be some doubt about the group changes
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| 20:01 | <Ryan52> oh, right, he fixed both of the syntax errors.
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| 20:43 | <kc8pxy> johnny: cool :)
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| 20:43 | seems my dhcp config goofed.. vbox does pxe to the dhcp, and reaches the tftp, and fumbles a file.
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| 20:46 | <johnny> ok?
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| 20:46 | of course.. you're here
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| 20:46 | and i'm about to leave for an hour
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| 21:07 | <rixter> hello all
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| 21:10 | <kc8pxy> ugh
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| 21:17 | <Ryan52> kc8pxy, what?
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| 21:26 | <kc8pxy> Ryan52: johnny stepped out again just as i got back to teh keys
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| 21:27 | <Ryan52> o
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| 21:27 | <kc8pxy> AFAIK johnny and dberkholz are the most knowledgable in this room about gentoo and ltsp
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| 22:06 | <johnny> hi
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| 22:07 | <kc8pxy> heya
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| 22:09 | <johnny> atm.. your issue isn't even related to gentoo as far as i can tell
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| 22:09 | and is just a generic problem with any ltsp setup :)
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| 22:17 | <kc8pxy> johnny: very possibly.. but i don't see any debug on this, so i'm not sure where to start tinkering
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| 22:17 | i wish it would tell me what tftp path it was failing on
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| 22:18 | which file it's not finding
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| 22:18 | <johnny> you still haven't showed me what your dhcp config looks like
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| 22:18 | wireshark is useful for this btw
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| 22:19 | <kc8pxy> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/172
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| 22:19 | <johnny> so.. try tftp manually based on what is in your config file
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| 22:20 | tftp <server>
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| 22:20 | get /ltsp/x86/pxelinux.0
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| 22:21 | i assume this one
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| 22:22 | 192.168.2.89
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| 22:22 | <kc8pxy> Error code 1: File not found
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| 22:22 | <johnny> well, there ya go :)
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| 22:22 | and ls /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/x86 says ?
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| 22:22 | <kc8pxy> where is that absolute path rooted?
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| 22:23 | <johnny> that's what the config in /etc/conf.d/in.tftpd is for
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| 22:23 | <kc8pxy> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Jan 9 18:29 pxelinux.0 -> /usr/share/syslinux/pxelinux.0
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| 22:24 | <johnny> hmm.. maybe in.tftpd doesn't like symbolic links..
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| 22:24 | try copying the file there
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| 22:27 | <dgroos> Hi!
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| 22:27 | I've got what is probably a very easy question...
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| 22:28 | I'm trying to set up an Edubuntu Hardy LTSP network in my room.
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| 22:30 | my challenge has been trying to set up a network printer, hooked up to the switch that the thin clients are on, not a printer hooked up to a client. Is this possible?
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| 22:30 | <kc8pxy> FIANLLY
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| 22:35 | <johnny> dgroos, sure
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| 22:35 | <johnny> that's not really ltsp related .. it should work if it is set up on the server itself
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| 22:35 | since all users are logged into the server already.. they should just see it, as long as your server knows about it
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| 22:36 | <dgroos> Hmmmm... I can only seem to set up 'local' printers--can seem to even ping the printer from one of the ltsp clients
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| 22:37 | maybe I've got something messed up on the server set up...
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| 22:37 | Any suggestions where I look, if you don't mind?
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| 22:37 | <johnny> log in as the initial user
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| 22:37 | the user youcreated when you installed ubuntu
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| 22:37 | right on the console
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| 22:37 | err at the machine itself
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| 22:37 | <dgroos> sorry, 'the initial user'?
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| 22:38 | <johnny> the one you you created when you installed ubuntu
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| 22:38 | <dgroos> Oh-- :-)
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| 22:38 | <johnny> does it have a monitor?
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| 22:38 | <kc8pxy> johnny: my production install of the ltsp is on a place where i can't yet expect the connection to be up after a little while once i issue the ltsp-build-client command. what file do i edit to put an emerge -f on the front end?
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| 22:38 | <dgroos> Yes
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| 22:38 | <johnny> kc8pxy, the install happens in many steps
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| 22:39 | dgroos, set up the printer there
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| 22:39 | make sure you can print on that
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| 22:39 | err as that user
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| 22:39 | <dgroos> I'll try again tomorrow!
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| 22:39 | <johnny> kc8pxy, it is unlikely that you will be able to do that
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| 22:39 | <kc8pxy> johnny: :-(
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| 22:39 | <johnny> dgroos, once it works for that user, it should be easy to make it work for all
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| 22:39 | <dgroos> Thanks!
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| 22:40 | <johnny> ubuntu has a printer wizard thing
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| 22:40 | <dgroos> Thanks--and the proper irc might be standard Ubuntu?
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| 22:41 | <johnny> set it to be the default printer
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| 22:41 | proper ric?
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| 22:41 | err
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| 22:41 | proper irc*? do you mean for help with that?
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| 22:41 | <dgroos> lets try that again,
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| 22:41 | irc :-)
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| 22:41 | <johnny> it's unlikely you will need help
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| 22:41 | hopefully it'll just work for that admin user.. and then just work for everybody else
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| 22:42 | so.. try following the wizard, tell it to use a network printer
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| 22:42 | and once it is added, right click on the printer and choose "set default" or whatever
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| 22:42 | or set default printer.. etc..
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| 22:42 | <dgroos> Right.
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| 22:42 | <johnny> then when you try to print from applications on the clients, it'll be in the list
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| 22:43 | <dgroos> Cool, I'll give it a try and try to let you know tomorrow eve if you are around!
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| 22:43 | <johnny> i just don't know if they need to be in some "lp" group on ubuntu
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| 22:43 | your thin client users that is
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| 22:44 | <dgroos> Maybe if it doesn't work again tomorrow I will get back to you :-)
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| 22:44 | <johnny> kc8pxy, why do you need to get it all when you're at the place?
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| 22:44 | you already have all the packages downloaded already right?
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| 22:44 | why not just copy that
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| 22:44 | and why would you run it again?
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| 22:44 | <dgroos> Johnny: Thanks
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| 22:45 | <johnny> just copy the entire /opt/ltsp.. no sense in regenerating it again
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| 22:48 | <kc8pxy> johnny: this is my dev install.. can i simply tarbal this client in /opt/ltsp/x86/ and put it in the productions place?
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| 22:48 | <johnny> sure
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| 22:52 | <yappingboy> I'm trying to use the opensuse 11.1 mosix kernel on my ltsp server and the client is giving me a invalid kernel image anyone have any ideas?
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| 22:53 | <johnny> probably not
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| 22:53 | i've never heard anybody who has had that problem
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| 22:53 | or was trying to do that even
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| 22:53 | altho it is neat
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| 22:54 | perhaps the kernel package is broken and didn't install correctly
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| 22:54 | it is probably a suse problem?
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| 22:54 | <kc8pxy> johnny: not that i have a booting LTSP client, (well, the nfs just failed, probably forgot to start it) it should be simple to add a pretty bootsplash to this?
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| 22:54 | <johnny> uhmm..
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| 22:55 | i guess genkernel can do it
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| 22:55 | i don't know how.. but there are instructions
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| 22:55 | i don't know what is a good option these days
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| 22:55 | <yappingboy> does ltsp need/use a gzipped kernel image?
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| 22:55 | <johnny> ltsp just uses standard tools.. so the question would be whether teh standard tools require it
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| 22:55 | i don't think so
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| 22:56 | zipped kernels are just faster to download
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| 22:56 | depends on where you get the error..
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| 22:57 | <yappingboy> i get the error when the client try's to load the image
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| 22:58 | <johnny> is this after linux starts?
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| 22:58 | or more like.. is this when linux is trying to start
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| 22:58 | or before that
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| 22:59 | <kc8pxy> johnny: this is where modules help, right?
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| 22:59 | <johnny> kc8pxy, hmm ?
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| 22:59 | * johnny bets some people are very happy about this whole gem thing.. | |
| 22:59 | <kc8pxy> johnny: nfs failed because udhcpc said : no such device.
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| 22:59 | <johnny> except nvidia users..
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| 22:59 | <yappingboy> yeah when it try's to start the bootload try's to load the image then errors and goes back to the loader
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| 22:59 | <johnny> kc8pxy, yeah.. you need modules for your cad
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| 22:59 | card*
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| 23:00 | yappingboy, you probably need to look at wherever your pxelinux.cfg/default is
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| 23:00 | and make sure it matches the same name as the kernel you're trying to load
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| 23:00 | i don't know where that stuff is stored on suse ltsp
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| 23:02 | <kc8pxy> johnny: i saw something that should make that nice and easy. i see the pxe hunting for the config by mac.. i could create a config and a initrd for each nic(i'm planning on having pxe roms on floating pci nics.) with the modules for just that nic in the initrd?
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| 23:03 | <johnny> uhmm.. why?
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| 23:03 | sounds complicated?
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| 23:03 | just put a list of all nics you need in one initrd
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| 23:03 | <kc8pxy> johnny: customized config with fast boot.
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| 23:03 | <johnny> it's not that fast..
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| 23:04 | * johnny doesn't understand exactly why it can't detect the network card and just load the damn driver | |
| 23:04 | <kc8pxy> fater than loading a bunch of nic modules i don't need(or want?)
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| 23:04 | johnny: agreed.
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| 23:04 | <johnny> well.. if you must.. i just don't think the speed gain is negligable
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| 23:04 | err i just think*
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| 23:04 | <kc8pxy> kk
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| 23:05 | <johnny> there are many other areas of that could be improved
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| 23:05 | like nbd .. similiar to ubuntu
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| 23:05 | but our initramfs doesn't handle it
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| 23:05 | i'm thinking about trying to work with that fedora guy on their new system
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| 23:05 | see how it compares to initramfs-tools
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| 23:06 | if ubuntu and fedora cooperate and both use it.. i'll definitely switch ltsp initramfs building over to that
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| 23:06 | and drop genkernel for initrd altogether
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| 23:06 | i'll probably even switch ltsp on gentoo to upstart
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| 23:06 | at that point
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| 23:06 | to take advantage of kms and all the goodies
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| 23:09 | <yappingboy> well johnny thanks for the help but the thing still wont boot... looks like i'm gunna have to give up on the termserv setup for now bye for now
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| 23:09 | <johnny> uggh..
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| 23:16 | <kc8pxy> johnny: what genkernel module do i need so it works with the the basic vbox nic?
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| 23:16 | <johnny> pcnet32
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| 23:21 | <kc8pxy> bind -o proc sys and dev for a nice genkernel build?
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| 23:30 | DOH
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| 23:30 | i forgot to linux32 my chroot :-(
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| 23:33 | <johnny> you should use that script
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| 23:33 | that i pasted for ya
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| 23:33 | that way you'll get the layman stuff so make.conf won't freak out
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| 23:42 | <kc8pxy> kk
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| 23:43 | brb
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| 23:51 | <kc8pxy> i get bunches of errors about mount not liking me, but it's working, (i think). where does genkernel drop it's files?
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| 23:51 | in /boot/??
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| 23:56 | johnny: perms denied on the nfs mount?
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| 23:56 | it pointed at opt/ltsp/x86, but came back with perms denied.
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| 23:57 | <johnny> mount not liking you?
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| 23:58 | yes.. in /boot
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| 23:58 | what's your /etc/exports look like?
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| 23:59 | <kc8pxy> # /etc/exports: NFS file systems being exported. See exports(5).
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| 23:59 | # Automatically added by ltsp-server
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| 23:59 | /opt/ltsp *(ro,no_root_squash,async)
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