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Channel log from 11 November 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:55 | <bennabiy> Can the tftp server pass nbd settings like the DHCP does? (for example root-path blah)
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| 02:58 | <jammcq> bennabiy: no
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| 02:58 | the tftp server is simply a file transfer program
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| 03:07 | <bennabiy> I mean at the kernel
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| 03:07 | in default
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| 03:07 | <jammcq> I don't know what you mean
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| 03:09 | <bennabiy> Basically' I have my system set up to boot thin clients i386 arch. But I run one fat client I am experimenting with' which is amd64 like the server' but I need to tell it a different nbd root path
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| 03:09 | as of right now' I have it getting that from the dhcp
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| 03:09 | option root-path
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| 03:09 | or some such
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| 03:10 | to tell nbd the context of which image to serve up
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| 03:10 | <jammcq> ok, so dhcp can handle that
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| 03:10 | <bennabiy> yes' but what if I did not know the mac address of a machine and needed to give a boot menu to choose thin or thick?
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| 03:11 | <jammcq> ummm
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| 03:11 | I'm not sure what kind of options you can put in the pxelinux config file for the boot menu
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| 03:11 | <bennabiy> I am hard setting a host in dhcpd.conf right now' and it works
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| 03:19 | oh well' tomorrow is another day.
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| 14:35 | <bennabiy> How can I get screen locking to work with a fat client?
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| 14:48 | <bennabiy> When I log in to my fat client through a non administrative user, I can access the desktop fine, but when I try to log in through a user which I usually log into the server, it will not mount my home directory, causing many things to fail. Also, it will not allow me to lock the screen like a normal user.
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| 14:48 | can I copy my user to the chroot to allow for screen unlocking and such?
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> Just set a password locally
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| 14:56 | After login
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> Or try to make LDM store the password hash in /etc/passwd...
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| 15:02 | <bennabiy> would I need to hack ldm server for that, or is there an easier way?
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| 15:02 | Do you know why my administrative user is failing to mount home, when a standard user is fine?
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| 15:03 | I get a bunch of python errors with my admin user
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| 15:03 | <alkisg> Python errors for mounting /home/username?
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| 15:03 | With sshfs?
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| 15:04 | <bennabiy> python errors as a result of not being able to access home
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> So it's irrelevant
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| 15:04 | Reboot a client. Login as your administrative user, after clean reboot. Does that work?
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| 15:05 | Then logout and check the output of `cat /proc/mounts` before logging in again
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| 15:05 | <bennabiy> I am going to need to log out of this session... let me pull up this room as a different session
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| 15:09 | <bennabiy> ok, so let me try to log in my fat client again
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| 15:12 | <bennabiy1> hmm. so it worked this time
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| 15:12 | I cleaned out all my cache.. I wonder if there was just a bad config stuck womewhere
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| 15:13 | <alkisg> Try logout and then login again
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| 15:13 | <bennabiy1> so how do I go about adding a password to this account, through the normal users and groups?
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| 15:13 | ok
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| 15:13 | <alkisg> cat /proc/mounts inbetween, if you suspect that a problem will arise
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| 15:16 | <bennabiy1> ok, in between it still showed my user home mounted. Should it unmount between, or will it just mount the next one once I log in as someone else?
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| 15:17 | <alkisg> After logoff, /home/username should have been unmounted
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| 15:17 | What was the output of cat /proc/mounts?
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| 15:17 | <bennabiy1> I still saw the gvfs entry for my user
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| 15:17 | let me try one more time
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| 15:25 | <bennabiy1> hmm, it bombed on me the last time with transport end point not connected
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| 15:25 | after reboot it let me in again
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| 15:25 | but no, home was not mounted, just the entry for gvfsd for my user
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> No difference
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> If any part of /home/username/* is mounted, then sshfs won't mount /home/username
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| 15:26 | <bennabiy1> nope, nothing like that mounted
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> Isn't .gvfs?
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| 15:26 | That's /home/username/.gvfs...
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| 15:26 | <bennabiy1> it was /run/
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| 15:26 | tmpfs
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> Which distro/verson/ltsp package version?
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| 15:27 | <bennabiy1> Mint/Ubuntu 13.04
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> And, output of `cat /proc/mounts`
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| 15:27 | Do you have the latest upstream fixes?
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| 15:27 | I committed a fix for that some months ago...
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| 15:28 | <bennabiy1> yes, my build is based on upstream, including my latest fix for mint ( I know because it pulled my theme )
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> Output of /proc/mounts?
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| 15:29 | <bennabiy1> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3479691
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| 15:29 | while logged in
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| 15:30 | I guess I can log out and then output to a file on the root, and then log back in again (hopefully ) and pastebin it as well
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| 15:30 | but there was no /home when I was logged out, just that last gvfsd-fuse /run/user/bennabiy/gvfs fuse.gvfsd-fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000 0 0
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| 15:30 | <alkisg> Or use epoptes, or screen_02=shell, or ssh etc
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| 15:31 | <bennabiy1> I can pull up a root login while logged out... it is just a matter of getting the output to a place where I can screenshot it, or copy it
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> scp file server:
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| 15:32 | <bennabiy1> I am working from a one screen station :) I have the monitor hooked up to the server, and to the client
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| 15:32 | true
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> or epoptes => open terminal => middle click for copy/paste
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| 15:32 | <bennabiy1> I do not think I have client on this image yet
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| 15:34 | Let me give it a go and see what I can produce.
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| 15:34 | back in a bit.
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| 15:38 | <bennabiy1> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3479752
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| 15:38 | when all users but root logged out
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| 15:39 | I wonder if it has something to do with programs not terminating by the time the logout happens, so something keeps home from mounting
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| 15:39 | You can diff the two entries
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| 15:41 | what would be the appropriate method for mounting another folder under /home (I keep a public folder there for all users to share)
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| 15:41 | would I have to do an NFS export, or could I do multiple NBD?
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| 15:42 | For example, can I pick and choose server folders that I want to make it to the fat client without having to do NFS?
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> SSH_EXTRA_MOUNTS or something, read the lts.conf manpage
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> So I guess the problem now is no longer /home/username/.gvfs, but /run/user/username/gvfs... that one needs to be unmounted on logout too
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| 15:44 | LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS
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| 15:46 | <bennabiy1> ok.
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| 15:46 | Does lts.conf man page document all the fat client options?
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| 15:46 | <alkisg> It should, if not it needs to
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| 15:47 | <bennabiy1> alkisg: that file does not block login every time as I was able to log in with it being there, but it is the only user specific file still mounted on the system at logout
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| 15:50 | How do you do customizations of things like the menu (what to appear and such) and make them endure?
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| 15:52 | <bennabiy1> I do not seem to have users and groups
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| 16:01 | and cannot set password without an existing password
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| 16:10 | <bennabiy1> alkisg: thoughts?
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| 16:15 | <bennabiy1> alkisg: also, is that you in the background? http://photos.stgraber.org/Conf/2011-ltsp-by-the-sea/i-3q94B35
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| 16:23 | * bennabiy1 hears the crickets... | |
| 16:23 | <alkisg> bennabiy1: sorry, I have 3 kids and 3 jobs, it's a little hard to chat too much on irc
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| 16:23 | No, that's not me
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| 16:24 | You can set a password from the ldm rc.d scripts
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| 16:24 | I don't use menu customizations
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| 16:25 | <bennabiy1> alkisg: I understand that one... I try not to chat too much either, but I am trying to figure out this fat client thing. If you have something alittle more helpful than the generic outdated info on UbuntuLTSP then I would not bother you
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| 16:26 | although, I do like getting to know actual people too :)
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| 16:26 | But I guess that is part of why I live in a community of people
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| 16:27 | * alkisg doesn't have any links to "better but hidden docs". It's all there in the ltsp.org wiki or in the distro wikis... | |
| 16:27 | <alkisg> Knowing people is nice, sure, but sometimes chatting too much online makes for less offline friends :)
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| 16:27 | <bennabiy1> I agree
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| 16:29 | is there documentation on the ldm rc.d scripts?
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| 16:29 | <alkisg> Just the code
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| 16:34 | <bennabiy1> ok
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| 16:34 | alkisg: question for you, on that document you sent with english / greek. Are those greek words pronounced the same as we would say in english, with the same meaning?
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| 16:35 | Or just rooted in greek?
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| 16:44 | well, off to get this working. Thank you alkisg
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| 16:44 | <alkisg> bb
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| 16:44 | <bennabiy1> bb?
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| 20:05 | <alkisg> mgariepy: if I remember correctly, you once put "LANG=$LANGUAGE" in ltsp-localappsd, i.e.:
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| 20:05 | LANG=$LANG LANGUAGE=$LANG DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY $CLIENT_ENV ${LTSP_COMMAND}
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| 20:05 | LANGUAGE is not the same as LANG, for example, LANGUAGE=el:en, while LANG=el_GR.UTF-8
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| 20:06 | Maybe unsetting LANGUAGE would also work? Did you try it?
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| 20:15 | <bennabiy> alkisg: extramounts are RO or RW?
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| 20:15 | LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS
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| 21:29 | <other_other_joe> thought that was depreciated in favor of FSTAB_01=
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| 21:34 | FSTAB_1='server:/$mount $mount nfs defaults,nolock 0 0'
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| 21:52 | <bennabiy> trying to avoid NFS, but if I must, I will :)
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| 22:02 | <Hyperbyte> Why are you trying to avoid NFS?
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| 22:03 | <Hyperbyte> Fine, be that way.
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