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Channel log from 18 April 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:29 | * vagrantc ponders a moment LTSPManual Chapter 27. | |
| 01:29 | <vagrantc> Updating your LTSP chroot
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| 01:30 | "First make sure the Client environment has the same Package lists as the Server, to achieve that, you will copy the /etc/apt/sources.list (on Debian and Ubuntu) or the /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo file from the Server to the Client environment. "
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| 01:30 | what?
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| 01:30 | the chroot's sources should already be configured...
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| 01:30 | or is it talking about upgrading to a new release?
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| 05:52 | <myjess> anybody online to help me today please?
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| 05:53 | HAve a dhcp router
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| 05:53 | Am using ltsp-server and dnsmasq as per fat client how-to
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| 05:54 | can get as far as booting but then gets new lease for a diff Ip than the one it booted with, and then I get HANGUP Negotiation failed.
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| 05:54 | I cannot seem to get around this and I have tried lots and lots of things to do.
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| 15:50 | <davemir> Hola a todo el mundo
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| 15:50 | alguien me podria ayudar
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| 15:52 | soy nuevo aki
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| 15:53 | <davemir> porfavor que alguien corfime que lo que escrivo se esta viendo
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| 15:55 | es que no se si tengo que registrarme algun sitio
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| 15:55 | por favor que alguien diga algo
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| 16:01 | <davemir> ola
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| 16:01 | olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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| 16:03 | <vagrantc> davemir: en ingleis?
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| 16:03 | <davemir> ok
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| 16:03 | sorry
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| 16:03 | <vagrantc> there are some spanish speakers here, but in general this is in english.
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| 16:04 | <davemir> ok
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| 16:04 | thanks
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| 16:05 | vagrantc: use a LSTP?
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| 16:05 | <vagrantc> davemir: i do most of the development for Debian.
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| 16:05 | LTSP development for Debian
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| 16:07 | <davemir> I use ubuntu
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| 16:07 | <vagrantc> it's similar
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| 16:08 | <davemir> yes
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| 16:08 | my problem is...
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| 16:09 | I can't run the ltsp-manager
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| 16:10 | <vagrantc> i think ltsp-manager is unmaintained...
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| 16:11 | <davemir> ok
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| 16:11 | there is another option
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| 16:12 | is that I am still very novice manual
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| 16:13 | <vagrantc> davemir: what are you trying to do?
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| 16:14 | <davemir> I'm doing a project for my school
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| 16:16 | implement a terminal server at school and recycle old pc
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| 16:17 | and the other
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| 16:17 | <vagrantc> cool :)
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| 16:17 | davemir: where at?
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| 16:17 | <davemir> applications run only on the LTSP server
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| 16:19 | i don't understand
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| 16:19 | <vagrantc> davemir: where is your school?
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| 16:19 | de donde eres?
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| 16:19 | <davemir> understand
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| 16:20 | soy de Catalonia
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| 16:20 | <vagrantc> ah.
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| 16:20 | <davemir> province Girona
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| 16:21 | sorry for my english
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| 16:21 | <vagrantc> no problem :)
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| 16:22 | <davemir> ok
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| 16:23 | <vagrantc> davemir: i think with ubuntu the recommended method is to use the alternate install CD and select the LTSP option from the menu.
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| 16:23 | <davemir> I have it installed and this option
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| 16:23 | <vagrantc> do you have specific problems?
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| 16:24 | <davemir> yes
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| 16:24 | i have many problems
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| 16:24 | xd
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| 16:24 | but
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| 16:24 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 16:25 | well, start with one, and we'll see what we can do
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| 16:25 | <davemir> at this time
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| 16:26 | have one installed with the ubuntu alternate method ltsp installed from the beginning
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| 16:27 | I installed virtualbox will make me thin client
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| 16:27 | ok?
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| 16:27 | and problem
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| 16:27 | <vagrantc> ok
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| 16:28 | <davemir> I configured with graphical interface
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| 16:28 | understand
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| 16:29 | I do not want to do manual
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| 16:29 | so I wanted to use the ltsp-manager
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| 16:29 | <vagrantc> shouldn't require much configuration
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| 16:30 | <davemir> It does not work
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| 16:31 | or so that fact is sufficient
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| 16:31 | ?
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| 16:33 | <davemir> vagrantc: for you should not touch anything or do you?
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| 16:34 | <vagrantc> davemir: you shouldn't *need* to change things. i'm not sure how broken ltsp-manager is
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| 16:35 | <davemir> You know some other option?
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> i don't
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| 16:37 | <davemir> the only option is to manually
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| 16:37 | no?
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| 16:37 | <vagrantc> as far as i know.
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| 16:38 | <davemir> ok
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| 16:38 | thanks
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| 16:38 | other problem
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| 16:39 | when I have started the thin client
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| 16:40 | From what I understood the thin client would not be able to install anything or do you?
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| 16:41 | <vagrantc> correct.
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| 16:41 | though you can install packages into the thin client environment from the server.
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| 16:42 | <davemir> my problem is
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| 16:42 | thin client I can install from the openoffice, etc.
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| 16:43 | This may be the cause
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| 16:43 | <vagrantc> you normally just install programs on the server.
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| 16:43 | the thin client connects to the server, and programs are executed on the server, not the thin client.
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| 16:45 | <davemir> that's what I would have to be but is not
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| 16:47 | now let me say that I am very beginner with servers and linux
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| 16:47 | <vagrantc> ok
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| 16:48 | <davemir> may be because users are not created yet?
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| 16:49 | <vagrantc> you do need to create users on the server, yes.
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| 16:49 | <davemir> How
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| 16:51 | ?
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| 16:53 | <vagrantc> adduser from the commandline should work, but there's probably a graphical tool for ubuntu
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| 16:57 | <davemir> vagrantc: in serious ubuntu system after adminstración and users and groups
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| 16:58 | It would be here
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| 17:01 | <davemir> vagrantc: yes o no?
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| 17:01 | <vagrantc> davemir: i don't know ubuntu... i use the command line on debian systems.
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| 17:02 | <davemir> ok
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| 17:02 | <davemir> I could explain all the steps as in the console to create users for the thin client?
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| 17:03 | please
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| 17:06 | <vagrantc> adduser $USERNAME ; adduser $USERNAME fuse
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| 17:06 | where $USERNAME is the name of the user you want to add.
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| 17:07 | <Lns> davemir, also you can read http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-use-adduser-command/
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| 17:08 | davemir, also in Ubuntu you can go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups - it should be fairly self explanatory
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| 17:08 | <davemir> thanks Lns
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| 17:09 | but I have to choose which profile for the thin client
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| 17:09 | <Lns> davemir, when you add users to the server, you log in with them on the thin client
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| 17:09 | there is no difference
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| 17:10 | <davemir> but my problem is...
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| 17:11 | The thin client can install programs you do not have to do
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| 17:11 | understand
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| 17:11 | <Lns> davemir, are you talking about localapps?
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| 17:11 | <davemir> thanks vagrantc
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| 17:11 | <Lns> or no
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| 17:12 | <davemir> I don't know
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| 17:12 | <Lns> davemir, pretend that the thin clients are just monitors/keyboards/mice running from the server
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| 17:12 | you do everything on the server
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| 17:12 | <davemir> I am very beginner even in this
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| 17:12 | <Lns> you don't have to worry about the thin clients software, they boot from the network
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| 17:12 | davemir, you should check out this wiki for ubuntu LTSP: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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| 17:12 | it has a lot of documentation to help you get started
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| 17:13 | I have to go but do read the pages on that wiki
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| 17:13 | <davemir> yes
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| 17:14 | <davemir> ok
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| 17:15 | thank you very much
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| 17:17 | or I have to create users for localapps or no?
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| 17:19 | Lns: or I have to create users for localapps or no?
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| 17:20 | <jammcq> davemir: if you are a newbie, then you should NOT be using local apps yet. that is advanced and you probably don't need it
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| 17:21 | <davemir> Lns: So where to start
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| 17:21 | <jammcq> lns is gone. he had to leave
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| 17:22 | <davemir> sorry
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| 17:22 | <jammcq> davemir: what is your native language?
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| 17:22 | <davemir> jammcq: So where to start
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| 17:22 | <jammcq> sorry, I'm not much help
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| 17:22 | but you should just do a normal install, on the Ubuntu wiki
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| 17:23 | <davemir> my language is catalan and spanish
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| 17:23 | <jammcq> ah
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| 17:24 | <davemir> nothing happens
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| 17:24 | thanks for trying
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| 17:27 | vagranc, Lns: I read the links and if I have any questions back here
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| 17:27 | vagranc, Lns, jammcq: thanks for everything
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| 17:30 | goodbye
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| 18:36 | <Lns> jammcq, when you moved the ltsp wiki away from twiki, was it purely because of the 'security' of spam showing up or did you imply other twiki specific security issues?
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| 18:37 | <jammcq> over the years, I got alot of people telling me they didn't like twiki.
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| 18:37 | not sure why, I always liked it
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| 18:37 | but I figured that mediawiki was pretty good, so I went towards that
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| 18:38 | unfortunately, mediawiki is harder to use, and the setup at sourceforge isn't great
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| 18:38 | <Lns> ah
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| 18:39 | I use twiki on a very small scale, i tried almost all of them i could find
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| 18:39 | i like the file upload functionality, and generally the way it's laid out
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| 18:39 | very clean imho
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| 20:03 | <lipinski> How can I correct a dbus failure from gnome-keyring-daemon?
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| 20:04 | I log into a client, it authenticates successfully, then kicks back to login screen. On server, in auth.log, I see gnome-keyring-daemon: dbus failure unregistering
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| 20:10 | ok, maybe it's compiz. How can I disable compiz on LTSP clients?
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| 20:41 | <johnny> hmm..
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| 20:41 | what did i do.. :(
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| 20:41 | fat clietns don't login once i setup a new one
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