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Channel log from 24 March 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:21 | <yggdrasill_> hello! I've a problem with x settings on the thin clients.
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| 05:22 | the sistem is ubuntu 8.04
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| 05:22 | I have the terminal logs but I can't understand
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| 05:22 | why the resolution is not correct and the driver switches to vesa instead of radeon
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| 05:23 | the graphic card of the thin client is ati radeon x1250
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| 05:23 | but it works with vesa only
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| 05:24 | any idea?
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| 05:24 | or anybody able to read the log?
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| 07:34 | <yggdrasill_> hello! I've a problem with x settings on the thin clients.the sistem is ubuntu 8.04 I have the terminal logs but I can't understand why the resolution is not correct and the driver switches to vesa instead of radeon. the graphic card of the thin client is ati radeon x1250 but it works with vesa only
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| 07:35 | any idea?
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| 07:42 | <pennyallen> hello evbdy
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| 07:42 | <yggdrasill_> hello
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| 07:44 | <maginot> good morning
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| 07:45 | <pennyallen> please can somebody
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| 07:45 | redirect me to a howto for installing ltsp 5 on slackware 12.2
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| 07:45 | <ogra> pennyallen, there is no port of ltsp5 to slackware yet
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| 07:46 | <pennyallen> so we cannot use it under slck
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| 07:46 | even if we have to recompile??
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| 07:47 | <maginot> Im having a problem to boot some clients with different nics from the tested yesterday using rtl8169 boards. When I boot the client it hangs in the drawing of the login sceen, I have a loading cursor stucked and a ldm screen not fuly loaded (the input field is a blank retangle) and I can't switch to the shell (alt+f2)
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| 07:47 | pennyallen, you can always be the first ... the source is out there ;)
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| 07:47 | <ogra> pennyallen, ltsp5 uses all distro packages and mechanisms as wellas teh distro kernel to build the client environment, it needs proper integration with the distro to work
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| 07:48 | you cant *just compile* something here
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| 07:48 | <pennyallen> ok
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| 07:49 | thanks
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| 07:49 | but I can still use the ltsp4
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| 07:50 | <ogra> its neither developed nor supported anymore ... its last security update was about 3years ago
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| 07:50 | but yes, the tarballs are surely out there somewhere
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| 07:50 | <pennyallen> hummmm
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| 07:52 | <maginot> anyone for my problem o.O
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| 07:58 | <alkisg> maginot: try to see if it's an X problem; e.g. with XSERVER=vesa in lts.conf. If it's not, then try to debug it with SCREEN_02=shell
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| 07:58 | yggdrasill_: upload the log to pastebot and paste the link, maybe someone can see the problem.
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| 07:59 | <maginot> alkisg, both are in lts.conf, and I just add X_MODE = 1024x768 ... same problem, but now after pressing a lot alt+f2 in the boot process I'm in Shell... what can I do to debug this?
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| 07:59 | <alkisg> maginot: distro/version?
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| 07:59 | <maginot> alkisg, ubuntu 8.10
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| 08:00 | <ogra> CONFIGURE_X=True is set too ?
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| 08:00 | <alkisg> So, is the X server running now? Or you only got a shell?
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| 08:00 | <yggdrasill_> I've the same problem with 1680x105 resolution
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| 08:01 | <maginot> ldm.log has only something like spawning greeter ... CONFIGURE_X is not in my lts.conf I have SCREEN_07 = ldm instead... but I know the in screen 7 I have ldm login stucked, if I alternate to it I will need to reboot
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| 08:01 | alkisg, ^
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| 08:01 | <yggdrasill_> pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 08:01 | <ogra> maginot, in 8.10, if you set X_MODE, you need CONFIGURE_X=True
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| 08:01 | <maginot> Hmmmm
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| 08:02 | let me see
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| 08:02 | <alkisg> maginot: What ogra says. Also, do getltscfg -a to see what lts.conf settings actually reach the client.
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| 08:02 | <ogra> the autoconfiguration of Xorg uchanged upstream a lot
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| 08:02 | <maginot> ok
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| 08:02 | <alkisg> !paste
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| 08:02 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "paste" is try !pastebot
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| 08:02 | <ogra> 8.10 is somewhere between two systems so you need to enforce the creation of an xorg.conf with CONFIGURE_X=True
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| 08:02 | <alkisg> !pastebot
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| 08:02 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 08:03 | <alkisg> yggdrasill_: see the line above ^^^
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| 08:03 | <yggdrasill_> !pastebot
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| 08:03 | <ltspbot> yggdrasill_: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 08:04 | <alkisg> yggdrasill_: that means that you should open this url in your browser: http://pastebot.ltsp.org - and paste your log file there.
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| 08:04 | <maginot> alkisg, okay, after CONFIGURE_X is now working like it should =D
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| 08:04 | thanks again
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| 08:04 | <alkisg> Don't thank me, thank ogra :)
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| 08:05 | <maginot> thank you both, always of good help
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| 08:05 | <ltsppbot> "yggdrasill" pasted "Ati radeon x config problems" (2524 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/291
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| 08:05 | <yggdrasill_> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/291
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| 08:05 | finally I did..
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| 08:06 | I apologize for problems but I have no practice with irc
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| 08:07 | I set xserver to auto
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| 08:07 | and I also tried to radeon or ati
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| 08:08 | but when the thin client starts the driver switch to vesa.
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| 08:08 | at 1280x1024
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| 08:08 | but monitors are 1680x1050
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| 08:08 | <alkisg> yggdrasill_: from what I can see, it doesn't detect your monitor timings (horizsync and vertrefresh) properly. It doesn't switch to vesa; it just uses a lower resolution (640x480).
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| 08:09 | <yggdrasill_> hmmm.
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| 08:09 | <alkisg> If you run `xvinfo` in the client, doesn't it say that it uses the ati driver?
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| 08:09 | <yggdrasill_> but in the lts.conf I pass also the frequencies it doesn't work
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| 08:09 | <alkisg> distro/version?
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| 08:09 | <yggdrasill_> ubuntu 8.04
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| 08:10 | <yggdrasill_> from the xlog the card is perfectly recognized
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| 08:10 | <alkisg> OK, paste this xorg.log then (where you modified the timings). And also your lts.conf.
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| 08:10 | <yggdrasill_> and it probes the modes I set in the lts.conf
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| 08:11 | ok, I will pick them immediately
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| 08:30 | <yggdrasill_> I having problem to connect the server (it is geographically far from my local site...
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| 08:40 | <ogra> you need Xorg.log from the client, not from the server
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| 08:45 | <maginot> one more problem.... I can't see my printer if I try to print from firefox running with ltsp-localapps, what should I do ? Install cups, lp on chroot?
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> maginot: if you enable cups on the server to accept remote connections, and have cups client installed in the chroot, it should use the Server's print queues
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| 08:47 | <maginot> Gadi, okay, so I will only need to install cups in chroot and them I will be able to see the printers normaly
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> yup
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| 09:00 | as long as cups on the server broadcasts its print queues
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| 09:00 | (ie allows remote clients)
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| 09:00 | <maginot> Gadi, Hmm I received an usage error on the screen, if you want I can post the printscreen
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| 09:01 | <Gadi> usage error?
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| 09:02 | <maginot> Gadi, The follow error occourried on print... 'usage: lpr [-c....command options]'
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| 09:03 | an error popup are showing this message
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| 09:03 | <Gadi> print from where?
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| 09:03 | <cor3> Good morning
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| 09:03 | <maginot> from client, using acrobat plugin on firefox
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| 09:04 | <cor3> So I applied a ton of security updates for hardy and now the log out button in gnome has stopped working on the ltsp clients
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| 09:04 | <Gadi> maginot: did you select the correct printer?
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| 09:04 | <cor3> anyone else report something similar?
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| 09:05 | <maginot> Gadi, yeah, I did, this is a HP printer connect trhough jet direct ...
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| 09:06 | I will pvt you with the image link
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| 09:18 | <yggdrasill_> gadi, can you take a look at my xorg.log for the X config problems?
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| 09:19 | <Gadi> sure, why not?
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| 09:20 | <yggdrasill_> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/291
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| 09:20 | <cor3> no logout issues reported under gnome after upgrades to hardy?
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| 09:24 | <Gadi> yggdrasill_: are you having trouble setting resolution?
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| 09:26 | <yggdrasill_> yes gadi...
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| 09:26 | as you may see, the system is probing for 1680x1050
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| 09:26 | but after it passes to the other resolutions I set on the lts.conf
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| 09:26 | like 1440x900
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| 09:26 | and 1280x720
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| 09:26 | but it skip
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| 09:27 | and finally the card is set to 640x480
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> try:
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| 09:27 | <yggdrasill_> but as you can see the adapter is correctly recognized
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> X_DEVICE_OPTION_01 = "\"IgnoreEDID\" \"true\""
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| 09:27 | in your lts.conf
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| 09:30 | also, is this a laptop?
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| 09:30 | it seems to find an LVDS and DVI output
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| 09:30 | if it is not a laptop and finds LVDS in error, you may need to tell it to ignore LVDS
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| 09:43 | <yggdrasill_> no it is not a laptop, is a futro S450 Thin client
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| 09:44 | from Fuji siemens
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| 09:46 | <Gadi> yggdrasill_: you may need a hack similar to one that stgraber has for some intel clients that report LVDS
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| 09:46 | <stgraber> example is on the mailing list
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| 09:47 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "stgraber's hack for $chroot/usr/share/ltsp/screen-session.d/" (15 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/292
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| 09:48 | <yggdrasill_> I see
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| 09:48 | <Gadi> you would just need to change the conditional to match the PCI ID for that chipset
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| 09:49 | * Gadi loves how the new Xserver is SO wonderful because it needs no conf file :P | |
| 09:51 | <ogra> Gadi, he is not using the new X server ...
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| 09:51 | its intrepid ...
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| 09:51 | jauntys X is surely far advanced here
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| 09:53 | <yggdrasill_> I'm looking through your lines to understand exactly
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| 09:54 | should I use X_DEVICE_OPTION_01 = "\"IgnoreEDID\" \"true\""
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| 09:54 | exactly how you typed it?
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| 09:54 | <Gadi> try it
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| 09:55 | if X_DEVICE_OPTION_01 doesn't work, try it with X_OPTION_01 (not sure which intrepid supported)
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| 09:55 | <yggdrasill_> but where can I access to this "advanced" informations about x config?
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| 09:55 | <Gadi> man radeon
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| 09:55 | :)
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| 09:55 | <yggdrasill_> btw I using 8.04 Hardy
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| 09:55 | <Gadi> thats what I did
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| 09:56 | <yggdrasill_> I mean where can I find a reference for all options ?
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| 09:57 | all there in man radeon?
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| 09:57 | oh man!
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| 09:58 | <Gadi> :)
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| 09:58 | <yggdrasill_> ok, I'm going to try it... I will tell you later my tests...
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| 09:58 | See you (and thank you so much)
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| 12:11 | <mintonman> hi, ltsp newbie here - just setting up a new ltsp server from the Ubuntu 8.10 alternate install CD and have a question ...
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| 12:12 | didn't have my second NIC card yesterday, and was too impatient, so installed LTSP Server from the CD
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| 12:13 | All went well, no probs - set up RAID nicely, etc
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| 12:13 | It told me I should do something later when I had installed the second NIC card - and I didn't write that down (D'oh!)
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| 12:15 | DOes anyone know what it is I should now do, to have the second NIC server run my thin client network?
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| 12:20 | <xs4rg7nt> hi everyone
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| 12:20 | how are you
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| 12:20 | im trying ltsp5 and i just have a problem
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| 12:20 | can you help me?
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| 12:27 | <jammcq> hello friends
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| 12:34 | <lucascoala> wow hello
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| 12:36 | <cliebow> jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 12:40 | <CAN-o-SPAM> hi ja
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| 12:40 | <xs4rg7nt> jimm how you doing
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| 12:41 | jimm what do you think about kiwi-ltsp
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| 13:16 | <davidgroos_> Hi all
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| 13:17 | <cor3> Anyone report any logoff issues recently using gnome under hardy?
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| 13:17 | <davidgroos_> I'm currently trying to get my Edubuntu 8.0.4.1 thin clients booting and some will and others won't.
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| 13:18 | <cor3> I applied a batch of upgrades and ever since the log out doesn't work
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| 13:19 | <davidgroos_> Not sure where in the logs to look for errors or what exactly I should look for. Can someone guide me where to look?
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| 13:28 | <maginot> problem trying to print from client using an application trhough ltsp-localapps
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| 13:28 | unknown printer, lpstat -a show all printers
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| 13:29 | echo "teste" | lpr -Pprinter-name returns unknown printer. ..
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| 13:29 | <xs4rg7nt> guys what differece betwen kiwi and ltsp?
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| 13:30 | <maginot> xs4rg7nt, KIWI-LTSP is nothing more than LTSP5 implementation on openSUSE
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| 13:31 | <cliebow> xs4rg7nt, i believe kiwi is installer fro suse..
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| 13:31 | kiwi-ltsp uses installer to create ltsp chroot
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| 13:31 | <maginot> xs4rg7nt, from kiwi site: "The Linux Terminal Server Project adds thin-client support to Linux servers. LTSP is a flexible, cost effective solution that is empowering schools, businesses, and organizations all over the world to easily install and deploy desktop workstations. A growing number of Linux distributions include LTSP out-of-the-box."
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| 13:31 | xs4rg7nt, "The openSuSE KIWI Image System provides a complete operating system image solution for Linux supported hardware platforms as well as for virtualisation systems like Xen Qemu or VMware. KIWI features distribution independent design, support for virtual systems, network deployed images, live CDs, thick clients and now with kiwi-ltsp diskless clients too."
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| 13:31 | =)
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| 13:31 | <xs4rg7nt> i have a problem with kiwi and not with ltsp
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| 13:32 | i have 50 clients with ltsp4
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| 13:32 | work 2 years ago
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| 13:32 | but
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| 13:32 | <maginot> okay, anyone can help with the printing problem from localapps ?
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| 13:32 | <xs4rg7nt> im trying update to ltsp5
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| 13:32 | and it always try to loggin into xx.xx.xx.254
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| 13:32 | and i dont know where to change
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| 13:33 | <maginot> xs4rg7nt, /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf ?
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| 13:33 | <xs4rg7nt> if i put my network 10.0.0.0 it use 10.0.0.254 to loggin
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| 13:33 | if i use 192.168.0.0
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| 13:33 | it use 192.168.0.254
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| 13:34 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp
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| 13:34 | <maginot> xs4rg7nt, you use where? You should let dhcp tell that ... the dhcp server will usualy be your ltsp server
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| 13:34 | <xs4rg7nt> i use the wizard
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| 13:35 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, what wizard
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| 13:35 | <xs4rg7nt> mmm is when is loggin the Xwindows
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| 13:35 | when i see gdm
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| 13:35 | or xdm
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| 13:35 | it giveme error
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| 13:35 | it cant login
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| 13:35 | dont found server
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| 13:35 | and i use wiresshark to see traffic
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| 13:35 | and see is trying to connect to 254
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| 13:35 | <maginot> xs4rg7nt, you are already seeing the login text input ?
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| 13:36 | have you checked your dhcpd.conf?
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| 13:36 | <xs4rg7nt> yeah my dhcpd.conf is the same like ltsp4
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| 13:36 | and ltsp4 is working fine
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| 13:36 | <jammcq> cliebow: hey
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| 13:36 | <maginot> I dont know anything about kiwi, but for ltsp for what I know it boots using the dhcp server to provide the image
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| 13:37 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp set the SERVERIP and dhcp settings there and use kiwi-ltsp-setup -c to recreate the images
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| 13:37 | <xs4rg7nt> server ip = 192.168.1.10
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| 13:38 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, if this is what you have configured
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| 13:38 | <xs4rg7nt> and my ltsp server is 192.168.1.10
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| 13:39 | at this moment i reset my ltsp client and dont loggin
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| 13:41 | <maginot> any idea why Im getting "unknown printer" error when trying to print from a application that is running with ltsp-localapps?
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| 13:41 | <xs4rg7nt> nop
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| 13:41 | dont work
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| 13:41 | i see with wiresshark
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| 13:41 | is trying
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| 13:41 | 192.168.0.254
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| 13:42 | i dont know where to change 192.168.0.254 gdm or xdm server for loggin
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| 13:43 | where is the old lts.conf?
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| 13:44 | where is /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 13:44 | it dont exist anymore?
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| 13:45 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/lts.conf
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| 13:45 | <xs4rg7nt> is empty this file
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| 13:46 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, this is the lts.conf file used by kiwi-ltsp
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| 13:47 | <xs4rg7nt> why is empty?
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| 13:48 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, per default nothing is needed, server ip is set in /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp
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| 13:50 | <xs4rg7nt> i need some option like in ltsp4 server = xx.xx.xx.xx xserver=auto\
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| 13:52 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, xserver=auto is default, the server ip is set inside the image when using kiwi-ltsp and set in /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp
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| 13:52 | after setting it in /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp you need to rerun kiwi-ltsp-setup -c
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| 13:52 | after that you should be able to boot your clients and log in
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| 13:53 | <xs4rg7nt> and where is build the iso
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| 13:54 | the boot image
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| 13:54 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, you can not make changes after the image was created, only in lts.conf
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| 13:55 | <xs4rg7nt> what is /srv/kiwi-ltsp folder
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| 13:55 | i have /srv/kiwiw-ltsp/dos
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| 13:55 | and it is a filesystem
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| 13:55 | it have /etc /bin /var /usr ...
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| 13:56 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, what do you want to change
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| 13:56 | <xs4rg7nt> im looking for something like gdm or xdm loggin server
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| 13:57 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, this is controlled by /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp, set the server ip and all other ip settings there and then rerun kiwi-ltsp-setup -c, this should work
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| 13:58 | <xs4rg7nt> ok im trying
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| 14:18 | <maginot> problem trying to print from client using an application trhough ltsp-localapps
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| 14:19 | unknown printer, lpstat -a show all printers
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| 14:19 | echo "teste" | lpr -Pprinter-name returns unknown printer. ..
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| 14:19 | stuck in this problem
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| 14:20 | <_UsUrPeR_> has anyone tried updating a client image lately? I am using ubuntu 8.04 x64 for some testing, using a fully updated server AND client.
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| 14:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> just finished running an apt-get upgrade in chroot, and wanted to update the image
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| 14:21 | so I exit out of chroot, and run ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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| 14:21 | and it appears that it tried to read from /opt/ltsp/i386/proc
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| 14:22 | didn't ltsp-update-image unmount /opt/ltsp/i386/proc automatically?
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| 14:28 | <xs4rg7nt> guys i can change gdm server login
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| 14:28 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, is it working?
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| 14:28 | <xs4rg7nt> :(
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| 14:29 | what do you think
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| 14:29 | do you need my config file
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| 14:29 | ?
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| 14:30 | <The_Code> pastebin it, i can have a look at it
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| 14:30 | <xs4rg7nt> ok
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| 14:33 | http://pastebin.com/d4f6189e4
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| 14:34 | <The_Code> xs4rg7nt, your server has one eth interface?
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| 14:34 | <xs4rg7nt> mmm it have vm
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| 14:34 | xen
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| 14:34 | it use br0
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| 14:35 | <The_Code> wireshark tells you your tcs try to connect to 10.0.0.254?
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| 14:36 | <xs4rg7nt> no 192.168.0.254
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| 14:37 | <The_Code> could you paste the ifconfig output on your server?
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| 14:37 | <xs4rg7nt> ok
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| 14:38 | http://pastebin.com/d65fef508
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| 14:39 | i was trying using a bro:6 with 192.168.0.254 and it work but i cant use this address
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| 14:40 | <The_Code> try setting DHCP_IFACE="br0" in /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp and rerun kiwi-ltsp-setup -c
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| 14:40 | <xs4rg7nt> ok
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| 14:44 | :( not work
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| 14:44 | <xs4rg7nt> and wireshark
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| 14:44 | tell
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| 14:44 | 192.168.0.254
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| 14:45 | <The_Code> ok, bad, i can't tell anymore, sorry
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| 14:55 | <maginot> Im trying to make italc to work with ubuntu8.10, I did the steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc ... the key pars were not created and I had to run ica command on server to start italc master control, I reboot the clients and added the option in lts.conf but the client seens not to be running the client and I cant see at italc-master .. anyone have any how to for 8.10 ?
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| 15:04 | <cor3> Has anyone reported ltsp client logoff issues under hardy after applying updates from the last 3 months?
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| 15:05 | I am using gnome
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| 15:06 | <_UsUrPeR_> cor3: what's going on? I have not seen anything myself...
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| 15:07 | <cor3> well I basically applied a ton of updates(3+ months worth) to my hardy ltsp server
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| 15:08 | updated the client filesystem/image
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| 15:08 | regenerated ssh keys just in case
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| 15:08 | rebooted server tested functionality
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| 15:08 | everything checked out fine until I clicked the logoff in gnome
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| 15:08 | nothing happens
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| 15:08 | <_UsUrPeR_> no logoff at all?
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| 15:09 | it stays in the desktop?
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| 15:09 | <cor3> nope doesn't even popup the power options etc
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| 15:09 | ya
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| 15:09 | stays on the desktop
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| 15:09 | <maginot> can anyone tell me if this is right? http://maginot.pastebin.com/m2b12940d
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| 15:09 | <cor3> tried at least 3 separate clients with different logins and had same result
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| 15:10 | searched forums and tried a few things like removing fast user switching etc
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| 15:10 | no resolution found yet though
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| 15:10 | ctrl+alt+backspace seems to lock up the terminal
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| 15:11 | <_UsUrPeR_> ?!? woah.
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| 15:11 | <cor3> so only a manual poweroff makes the terminals usable but it leaves procs sitting there from the previous user
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| 15:11 | <_UsUrPeR_> are you noticing any weird errors in /var/log/auth.log at logon?
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| 15:12 | <cor3> I'll verify the logs again
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| 15:13 | nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log
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| 15:14 | audio, local devices etc work just fine
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| 15:14 | its just the stupid log off button in gnome
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| 15:15 | I should try another window manager to see if its affected
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| 15:15 | perhaps xfce
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| 15:24 | <cor3> damn can't get a vnc login on a client currently(didn't test that after upgrades)
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| 15:40 | <MikeyCarter> Hey gang. I have a cobbler/PXE server setup and running. I'm trying to retro fit tlsp so it's a menu option in the existing PXE. I have everything work up to mounting the root FS. I get it can't find the dhcp root path option. Is there any way to specify that on the kernel boot line?
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| 15:51 | <Gadi_eeepc> anyone here know what the absence of TSV timestamps in a packet in wireshark might indicate?
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| 15:54 | <alkisg> MikeyCarter: I think this would be distro specific; for example (and AFAIK) Ubuntu doesn't support this, you'd have to patch the initramfs scripts to support it.
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| 15:55 | <vagrantc> initramfs-tools has support for passing root-path on the commandline for ages.
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> vagrantc: what's the parameter? root=xxx?
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| 15:56 | <vagrantc> alkisg: nfsroot
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| 15:57 | alkisg: so it probably doesn't work for NBD in ubuntu.
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| 15:57 | but the root-path parameter is specifically about nfs anyways...
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| 15:57 | <Gadi_eeepc> ubuntu has nbdroot=<ip:port>
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| 15:57 | <MikeyCarter> ubuntu I can boot the livecd's directly from PXE using nfsroot. It's always been redhat based which has given me problems.
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> I didn't test nfsroot (neither root), I remember trying to pass the filename and I couldn't...
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| 15:59 | (boot filename, to find the lts.conf location)
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| 17:22 | <Lns> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9688#mpart4 - just in case you didn't read this before, very good article re: LTSP
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| 17:24 | Has anyone seen an issue of when multiple TCs are using OOo Presentation and one enters SlideShow, the others are "locked out"/"frozen" ? (words from the on-site tech, not sure if it means the other TCs lock up or just can't enter slideshow)
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| 18:10 | * Gadi_eeepc wonder why port 2000 was chosen for our nbd port | |
| 18:12 | <Lns> Gadi_eeepc: hrm.. sieve 2000/tcp # Sieve mail filter daemon
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| 18:12 | close enough? :p
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| 18:13 | <Gadi_eeepc> its also cisco-sccp
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| 18:13 | (officially)
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| 18:13 | <Lns> weird
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| 18:13 | * Gadi_eeepc wonders if his cisco switch-related issue has to do with this... | |
| 18:16 | <Gadi_eeepc> 2020 appears to be open
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| 18:16 | :)
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| 18:19 | * Lns is reminded about the nbd_swap port fiasco | |
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| 22:59 | <warren> Anyone else here who stayed at the Holiday Inn Express in Michigan during the 2006 hackfest?
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| 22:59 | I just noticed the credit card I used that time had a huge unauthorized charge from that hotel
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| 22:59 | yesterday
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