IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 22 November 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:40 | <muppis> Morning.
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| 06:41 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 06:41 | <muppis> Now I'm trying to wake up and find a correct place to patch to apply for mac based hostnames. :)
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| 08:03 | <alkisg> Does anyone have experience with x2godesktopsharing? Is it faster than vnc?
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| 08:07 | <muppis> Hmm. Funny. Dnsmasq makes a A record for client name, but it doesn't use it. Maybe wrong domain.
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| 08:08 | <alkisg> You do have 127.0.0.1 as your first dns server, right?
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| 08:09 | <muppis> Sure, but dnsmasq forwards the request.
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| 08:09 | <alkisg> It worked out of the box for me...
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| 08:50 | <muppis> reply ltsp191 is NXDOMAIN-IPv4
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| 09:47 | <muppis> I just don't understand. Can't get dnsmasq working right now.
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| 09:48 | <alkisg> muppis: put break=bottom in pxelinux.cfg/default, and then run: udhcpc -h hostname
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| 09:48 | That way you'll be sure that the client side is ok
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| 09:55 | <muppis> Does the same thing.
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| 09:56 | Dnsmasq log: reply ltsp191 is NXDOMAIN-IPv4
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| 09:56 | <alkisg> dig @localhost ltsp191
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| 09:56 | Also check the dhcp logs
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| 09:56 | You do have dnsmasq as dhcp server too, right?
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| 09:56 | You should be seeing a "client provides name=ltsp191" there
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| 10:49 | <muppis> Dnsmasq handles all but nbd.
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| 10:50 | http://pastebin.com/d5TVtTig
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> ov 22 12:51:30 alkis dnsmasq-dhcp[1181]: 1881549426 client provides name: iamathinclient
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> I don't see that in your paste
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> I did that with break=bottom, and udhcpc -h iamathinclient
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| 10:52 | Which ubuntu version are you using?
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| 10:53 | <muppis> 10.04
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> Me too
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| 10:54 | Nov 22 12:51:30 alkis dnsmasq-dhcp[1181]: 1881549426 Available DHCP subnet: 10.160.31.10/255.255.255.0
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| 10:54 | Nov 22 12:51:30 alkis dnsmasq-dhcp[1181]: 1881549426 client provides name: iamathinclient
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| 10:54 | Nov 22 12:51:30 alkis dnsmasq-dhcp[1181]: 1881549426 Vendor class: udhcp 0.9.9-pre
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| 10:54 | That's mine, here's yours:
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| 10:54 | Nov 22 12:00:31 levy1 dnsmasq-dhcp[31131]: 3202987389 Available DHCP range: 10.1.0.20 -- 10.1.0.200
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| 10:54 | Nov 22 12:00:31 levy1 dnsmasq-dhcp[31131]: 3202987389 Vendor class: udhcp 0.9.9-pre
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| 10:55 | You're missing the line in the middle. Are you sure you ran udhcpc -h hostname manually?
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| 10:59 | <muppis> Yes, and it gives Lease failed:
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| 11:04 | <alkisg> That's the problem then, you need to find out why the lease fails
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| 11:06 | <muppis> What the h.... It started working.
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| 11:07 | <muppis> Must be something wrong now.
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| 11:10 | <muppis> Now dnsmasq make a record, but still forwards the query.
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| 11:17 | <irctc076> Hi,
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| 11:18 | <irctc076> Am using Edubuntu 11.10. Am getting a fatal error when usin Sabayon when I go to edit a profile. Error message tells me to send a file I have not got in a folder that does not exist to bugzilla.
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| 11:19 | I need Sabayon. Anybody any suggestions how to overcome this problem ?
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| 11:19 | <muppis> alkisg, should that break be inline with append?
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| 11:20 | <irctc076> Yes it should... Apologies.
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| 11:21 | <alkisg> irctc076: sabayon is pretty much unmaintained, if you need it then install 10.04
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| 11:22 | muppis: ipappend goes in a second line, while break=mount gets along with the other kernel parameters
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| 11:23 | <irctc076> Thank you. Is there anything else you are aware of that I could use with 11.1 That would do the same thing ?
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| 11:24 | <alkisg> You could use gsettings mandatory settings. I don't know of any GUI for that.
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| 11:24 | <ogra_> dconf-editor
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| 11:24 | from dconf-tools
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| 11:25 | <alkisg> Nice - but it's not a GUI in the sabayon sense, right?
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| 11:25 | <ogra_> no, more like gconf-editor
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| 11:25 | <alkisg> Gotcha. So you can't create menus, panels, wallpapers etc and the select "enforce those on these groups"
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| 11:25 | <ogra_> (and to my knowledge currently the only gui you can use with gsettings/dconf)
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| 11:26 | <alkisg> But well, since sabayon is unmaintained... :)
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| 11:28 | <irctc076> Thanks, I shall have a look at what you have suggested. Does epoptes Overseer do the same thing. do you know ?
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| 11:41 | <muppis> Puuh.. I give it up for now.
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| 11:42 | <alkisg> muppis: are you using dnsmasq as a normal dhcp server, or as a proxy dhcp server?
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| 11:50 | <muppis> alkisg, normal.
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| 11:50 | <alkisg> OK. It doesn't work in proxydhcp mode for me, but it works fine in normal mode.
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| 11:50 | <muppis> udhcpc just doesn't provide the hostname.
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| 11:50 | <alkisg> And if the client does a second request with a different hostname, dnsmasq instantly forgets the old name
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| 11:51 | Try with dhclient then
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| 11:51 | udhcpc doesn't provide the hostname by default, you need to run it manually, right?
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| 11:52 | <muppis> When runned manually it hangs. dhclient works.
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| 11:55 | <muppis> I ended up to use ethers file for names, and it meet my requirements for now.
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| 12:08 | <andygraybeal> morning
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| 12:10 | <muppis> Can I brdige client's nics?
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| 12:10 | Bridge..
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| 12:12 | <alkisg> Netbooted client NICs? AFAIK no, unless you write custom code for that
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| 12:13 | <andygraybeal> muppis, curious, can you tell me what the situation would be to do that?
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| 12:13 | <muppis> andygraybeal, client is host for kvm virtuals.
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| 12:14 | <andygraybeal> muppis, nice
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| 12:14 | <muppis> And virtuals boot from iSCSI.
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| 12:14 | <andygraybeal> nice, so a san machine?
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| 12:15 | <muppis> Can be called that. :) Bunch of HP DL380's
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| 12:16 | <andygraybeal> muppis, nice
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| 12:17 | expensive :)
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| 12:17 | <muppis> Actually comes cheaper than keeping all hosts diskfull. :)
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| 12:51 | <Guest35216> hi,
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| 12:51 | When i boot with dhcp floppy works fine, when i try to use static boot
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| 12:52 | TFT prefix is not found??
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| 12:52 | Can I set it somehow?
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| 12:53 | <Guest35216> unable to load configuration file is the exact error
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| 12:57 | <alkisg> Guest35216: are you the one that I adviced 2 days ago to use an embedded gpxe script?
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| 12:58 | <Guest35216> yes
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| 12:58 | exactly
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| 12:58 | like i said Ill be back
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| 12:58 | <alkisg> Can you paste the script you use to pastebin?
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| 12:58 | !pastebin
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| 12:58 | <ltsp> alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 12:59 | <Guest35216> i read something about set209/set210 on etherboot but I`m not getting warm with this
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| 13:00 | http://pastebin.com/C8wLaH61
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| 13:00 | <alkisg> No, that's not the one I told you to use, let me find it again...
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| 13:01 | <Guest35216> wait no i`ve wanted it a little bit easy
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=1451.msg30596#msg30596
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| 13:01 | <Guest35216> wait this one
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| 13:02 | yes i`ll check this right now
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| 13:02 | thanx
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> So as you can see you're missing the next-server, the initrd, the ip=static ip info part etc
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| 13:03 | You're welcome
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| 13:05 | <Guest35216> compiling! If it takes longer snikers:-D
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> You don't need to compile, just use the rom-o-matic page as mentioned in the post
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| 13:06 | (1) Paste script, (2) Click get image, ready
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| 13:06 | <alkisg> (Unless if you want to use iPXE instead of gPXE)
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| 13:06 | Hey jtsop
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| 13:06 | <jtsop> hello
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| 13:06 | <alkisg> Did you manage to get epoptes running?
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| 13:06 | <jtsop> nope
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| 13:07 | <alkisg> What was the output of /usr/sbin/epoptes-client, on the client?
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| 13:08 | <Guest35216> he guys im working with floppy!
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| 13:08 | things not so easy
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| 13:08 | and fast
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| 13:08 | <alkisg> Why not? I've been working with floppies for years :)
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| 13:08 | <jtsop> I'll see into it tomorrow
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| 13:09 | <Guest35216> forgot to add path to vmlinzu
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| 13:09 | <Guest35216> momen pls
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| 13:10 | <alkisg> jtsop: ok - and about the installation problem, was it the logoff/logon that is mentioned in the wiki page?
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| 13:14 | <Guest35216> uuu
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| 13:14 | now i get not supported /ltsp/i386/vmlinzu
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| 13:15 | <alkisg> You keep writing vmlinzu instead of vmlinuz, I hope you don't mistype it in the script too :)
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| 13:15 | What script are you using now?
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| 13:15 | <Guest35216> i have to crash boot with it
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| 13:15 | that its ok with the paths
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| 13:15 | i uses this greek thing
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| 13:16 | I don`t understand how it can work
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| 13:16 | because he does not tell any http paths
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| 13:16 | so a little strange
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> What http? Are you using http or tftp?
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| 13:17 | <Guest35216> http
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| 13:17 | I allways said
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| 13:18 | my question was just how to throw out the tftp boot prefix
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| 13:19 | <alkisg> You just said that you didn't want a DHCP server, you didn't say anything about http
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| 13:20 | <Guest35216> yes the few days ago
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| 13:20 | :-D
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| 13:20 | <alkisg> So your ltsp server is a remote one, over http? Are you sure you have enough bandwidth for this?
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| 13:20 | E.g. 100mbps line?
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| 13:20 | <Guest35216> locally
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| 13:20 | only
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| 13:20 | no sorry I have tokering:-D
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| 13:20 | sorry 100 Mbits
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2011-11-18
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| 13:22 | 09:59<Guest34754>hi guys
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| 13:22 | 09:59 if i run a ltsp server
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| 13:22 | 10:01 anyone trys to boot a client with to a static server without dhcp?
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| 13:22 | No mention about http
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| 13:22 | <Guest35216> not at that time
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| 13:22 | yes
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| 13:23 | <Guest35216> i only wanted to push static ips
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| 13:23 | now i was interested how this works with static via http
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| 13:23 | <alkisg> OK so now you want to do it with http, too? May I ask why?
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| 13:23 | Because you'll lose the lts.conf settings as well
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| 13:23 | <Guest35216> sorry when i dont explained myself probably
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| 13:24 | ok
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| 13:24 | so you think its better to handle tftp?
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| 13:25 | <alkisg> You never said WHY you want that, so I can't say if it's better or not
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| 13:27 | <Guest35216> accually i thought if i fetch the images i can make it folder like
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| 13:27 | for example
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| 13:27 | bootpctypeclient/
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| 13:27 | ..
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| 13:27 | and bootpctypeclient2/
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| 13:27 | and i don`t have no idea of tftp
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| 13:29 | <alkisg> I didn't understand the reason. Why would you want to make folders? Why are you changing the default installation which uses tftp? Because you don't know how tftp works? Then you'll also change NBD or NFS to HTTP too?
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| 13:29 | Which distribution are you using for LTSP?
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| 13:30 | <Guest35216> debian
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> So, to boot the client, you'll need tftp, nfs, inetd, sshfs and a lot of other technologies. Will you replace all those with http?
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| 13:32 | The default installation should work for you, there's no need to modify it just because you don't know how a protocol works
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| 13:32 | <jtsop> @alkisg yes, epoptes loads just fine
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> jtsop: nice, could you mark the bug as invalid then, or should I do it?
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| 13:33 | <jtsop> I think you have already done it
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> Nope
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| 13:33 | I marked it as "incomplete", which means "requires feedback from the user"
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| 13:33 | <jtsop> ok, ill do it
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> k
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| 13:33 | <jtsop> logon, logoff, reboot,shutdown does not work
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| 13:34 | <Guest35216> hi alksig I `ll have to work some things for sure we will heare us again
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| 13:34 | bye
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| 13:34 | <alkisg> jtsop: In epoptes?
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| 13:34 | Or in sch-scripts with lxde?
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| 13:34 | In epoptes all those should work. On the other hand, sch-scripts only support gnome.
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| 13:38 | Also there's no "logon" button anywhere, we haven't started designing/implementing teacher-initiated logon yet.
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| 13:48 | <muppis> Is fstab overwritten during boot?
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| 13:49 | <alkisg> !lts.conf
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| 13:49 | <ltsp> alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 13:49 | <alkisg> See configure_fstab there
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| 13:51 | <muppis> Hmm..
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| 13:58 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 14:00 | <muppis> neat. Uncompressed image in 10 seconds.
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| 14:05 | <jtsop> @alkisg sch-scripts (epoptes cannot find any clients)
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| 14:09 | <alkisg> jtsop: for sch-scripts, that's expected behavior, they don't support LXDE, only Gnome
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| 14:10 | jtsop: for epoptes, please read the installation page, all the necessary instructions are there
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| 14:10 | http://www.epoptes.org/installation
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| 14:10 | E.g. you might be missing the "copy certificate" step
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| 14:15 | <JerryNJ> can someone help me out with some pxe/thinclient questions
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| 14:17 | <alkisg> !ask
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| 14:17 | <ltsp> alkisg: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 14:28 | <JerryNJ> fair enough
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| 14:31 | im looking to build a cheap thinclient which will auto boot to an rdp session
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| 14:31 | id like to have a hybrid deployment, some CD, some PXE
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| 14:32 | ive had some trouble overcoming the quickest easiest method, aside from purchasing new HW
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| 14:34 | looking for some guidance
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> The ltsp way is: 1) install ltsp, 2) put SCREEN_07=rdesktop server-ip
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| 14:35 | Done
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| 14:35 | That's PXE though, it's a bit more difficult to make a bootable CD with LTSP on it, although I once saw one
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| 14:35 | The CD is because there's no server around?
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| 14:38 | <JerryNJ> wait a sec
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| 14:38 | lets remove the cd from the equation for a moment
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| 14:38 | I tried LTSP
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| 14:38 | I have a Windows DHCP server
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| 14:38 | and I lit up a LTSP box
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| 14:38 | but I couldnt get it to boot right
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| 14:39 | may I pm?
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> Well, we're here to help you troubleshoot your installation
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| 14:40 | Which distro/version are you using?
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| 14:40 | <JerryNJ> im checking - btw how do I check?
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| 14:40 | i know its on Ubuntu
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| 14:40 | and I installed it yesterday
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> lsb_release -c
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| 14:42 | <JerryNJ> in a cli, yes?
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 14:44 | <JerryNJ> lucid
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| 14:44 | <alkisg> Good. And what's the error message on your thin client?
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| 14:45 | <JerryNJ> PXE-T01: File Not found
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| 14:46 | PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File Not Found
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| 14:47 | <alkisg> What's the output of this, on your server? ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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| 14:49 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 14:49 | <JerryNJ> trying to screenshot it for you
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| 14:51 | http://www.picpaste.com/pics/ss1-yMxdiOSV.1321973446.jpg
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| 14:51 | there ya go
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> Hi Scotty
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| 14:55 | JerryNJ: you can copy/paste the output to pastebin
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| 14:55 | !pastebin
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| 14:55 | <ltsp> alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 14:55 | <alkisg> No need to make screenshots
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| 14:55 | OK, and what are the contents of your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf ?
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| 14:55 | <JerryNJ> how do I check that>?
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| 14:58 | <sbalneav> alkisg: hey ho!
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: sudo apt-get --yes install pastebinit
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| 14:58 | pastebinit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 14:58 | Write those 2 commands
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| 14:59 | sbalneav: how are things going with the libpam-ssh stuff? /me is looking forward to LTSP 6... :D
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| 14:59 | <JerryNJ> http://pastebin.com/H2EPg7wt
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| 14:59 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: no, that didn't help, enter the 2 commands I wrote above
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| 14:59 | <JerryNJ> permission denied
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> Permission denied for what?
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| 15:00 | <JerryNJ> hang on , just read the sudo apt get
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| 15:02 | http://pastebin.com/71A7sWX5
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| 15:02 | there
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| 15:03 | <alkisg> And the output of this? ip -oneline -family inet addr show
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| 15:03 | <JerryNJ> oh btw, I DONT want to run DHCP from LTSP - we have a Win domain with a DHCP server
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| 15:03 | <alkisg> Well, you do have a dhcpd.conf
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| 15:04 | You'd need to uninstall your dhcp server then, and correctly configure your windows dhcp server
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| 15:05 | <JerryNJ> http://pastebin.com/UpB18TA2
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| 15:06 | well lets uninstall that then, er whenever your ready
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| 15:07 | i appreciate you helping me
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| 15:08 | im really lost
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| 15:08 | <alkisg> Here's a wiki page to help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
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| 15:10 | <JerryNJ> yes i have followed that, or tried to
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| 15:11 | can you help me through getting this working? I will gladly give you access to the box if that would help
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| 15:11 | <- dumb windows guy
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: erm, I already spent too many hours here, and I have a lot of work to do today, so if noone else can give you detailed help, you can try to come back tomorrow
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| 15:13 | <JerryNJ> that sucks
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| 15:13 | anone else here?
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| 15:14 | er anyone
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| 15:27 | <pmatulis> JerryNJ: sorry, what is your main question?
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| 15:34 | <JerryNJ> guess i need to get rid of dhcpd on the box and i dont know how
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| 15:34 | getting these errors on my pxe boot clients
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| 15:34 | PXE-T01: File Not found
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| 15:34 | PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File Not Found
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| 15:55 | <sbalneav> alkisg: stgraber, vagrantc and I are going to take a stab at things in December.
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| 15:55 | Now that we've got some of the infrastructure in place, what I'm hoping for is that we can kind of get something to "play around with" until next BTS.
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| 15:56 | Then at BTS, we can hack hard on polish, and any remaining issues, and get someing issued and stable next November.
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> Sounds like a good plan. I hope we don't hit any lightdm or other dm shortcomings
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| 15:57 | <JerryNJ> can on eof you guys help me out
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| 15:58 | er one of you guys
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| 15:58 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: your main problem is a misconfigured windows dhcp server, focus on that question
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| 15:59 | You need to set the boot filename AND the next server
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| 15:59 | <JerryNJ> how do I do that?
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| 16:01 | <alkisg> The wiki page I linked above has details, if you can't follow it and noone else here has free time to help you right now, you can probably also ask in #windows, as it's a windows problem, not a linux one
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| 16:03 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: The link alkisg provided has good instructions. Since you're setting up a windows product (dhcp) there probably won't be many experts on that in this channel. Most of us run exclusively linux.
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| 16:04 | JerryNJ: I'd start by reading that wiki page.
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> !j
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| 16:04 | <ltsp> alkisg: j: jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 16:04 | <jammcq> :)
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| 16:04 | hi guys
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| 16:05 | <sbalneav> hey jammcq
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| 16:05 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 16:08 | <JerryNJ> reread wiki and changed one thing , now I get a different erro
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| 16:09 | PXE-E32
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| 16:09 | TFTP Open Timeout
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| 16:15 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: ...and what did you change? That might be useful information :)
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| 16:18 | <JerryNJ> i changed the ltsp/arch/pxelinux.0# to ltsp/arch/pxelinux.0
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| 16:18 | <JerryNJ> which got me farther but to this erro
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| 16:18 | r
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| 16:20 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: "arch" is your architecture
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| 16:20 | You probably want:
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| 16:20 | ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 16:21 | <sbalneav> The wiki page even says so:
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| 16:21 | 'Specify CPU architecture in place of 'arch', for instance 'i386' '
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| 16:22 | <JerryNJ> yes i386
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| 16:23 | ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 16:25 | <sbalneav> So have you changed it now from 'arch' to 'i386'? Does it get farther now?
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| 16:27 | <JerryNJ> yes it gets to error PXE-E32
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| 16:27 | "TFTP Open Timeout"
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| 16:28 | <sbalneav> Ok, so what's the IP address of your LTSP server?
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| 16:28 | And what have you got option 066 set to on the DHCP server
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| 16:28 | ?
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| 16:30 | <sbalneav> Dude, I'm at work, and taking time out of my busy day to help you. You need to pick up the pace on these answers a bit.
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| 16:30 | <knipwim> sbalneav: i'm planning to package libnss_sshsock and libpam_sshauth for gentoo
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| 16:31 | are they going to be located at lp:~sbalneav/ for a while?
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| 16:31 | <sbalneav> knipwim: Yup
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| 16:31 | I've got no plans to move 'em elsewhere.
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| 16:32 | at some point, they may move into LTSP mainline, but probably not until next year.
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| 16:32 | knipwim: they working for you?
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| 16:32 | <knipwim> the packaging part won't be a problem
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| 16:33 | figuring out what to do with them might
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| 16:33 | <sbalneav> heh
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| 16:33 | here too:
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| 16:33 | They're "foundation" work. We still have to figure out how to build the house on top of 'em. :)
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| 16:34 | <JerryNJ> sbalneav: LTSP server 192.168.51.5
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| 16:34 | sbalneav: DHCP server 192.168.51.3
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| 16:34 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: ok, so your option 066 on the DHCP server should be set to 192.168.51.5 Is is?
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| 16:34 | <JerryNJ> sbalneav: DHCP option 66 - 192.168.51.5
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| 16:34 | yep
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| 16:35 | <sbalneav> ok, then we need to check if the tftp server is in fact running on the ltsp server
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| 16:35 | <JerryNJ> kk
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| 16:35 | if i knew how I would
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| 16:35 | <sbalneav> What server is this? Ubuntu? Redhat?
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| 16:35 | <JerryNJ> ubuntu
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| 16:35 | lucid build
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| 16:35 | <sbalneav> ok, so:
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| 16:36 | <knipwim> sbalneav: i figured as much :) my plan was to wait and see other integrations
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| 16:36 | <sbalneav> first, do a dpkg -l | grep tftpd-hpa
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| 16:36 | JerryNJ: Should read:
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| 16:37 | ii tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2.1 HPA's tftp server
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| 16:37 | or similar.
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| 16:37 | JerryNJ: Does it?
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| 16:38 | <JerryNJ> looking
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| 16:39 | YES
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| 16:40 | (sorry for the delay - got dc'ed from this box)
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| 16:51 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: OK, so lets see if this is working
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| 16:51 | <JerryNJ> kk
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| 16:52 | right now - not working
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| 16:52 | <sbalneav> ps -ef | grep tftpd
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| 16:52 | what's returned?
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| 16:54 | <alkisg> I think in Lucid tftpd-hpa is started from inetd
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| 16:54 | Also there's a tftp troubleshooting page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 16:54 | <JerryNJ> veraciti 2392 2362 0 16:53 pts/0
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| 16:55 | color=auto tftpd
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| 16:55 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: ok, so tftpd's not running.
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| 16:55 | grep tftpd /etc/inetd.conf
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| 16:56 | alkisg: I can never remember anymore
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| 16:56 | <JerryNJ> k, nothing returned
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| 16:56 | <alkisg> Ah "On Lucid, tftpd-hpa is started as a standalone daemon from upstart." ==> I was wrong
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| 16:56 | <JerryNJ> im reading this too
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| 16:56 | <alkisg> sbalneav: I'm using dnsmasq, so... :D
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| 16:56 | <sbalneav> heh
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| 16:56 | JerryNJ: sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 16:56 | <JerryNJ> kk
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| 16:57 | <sbalneav> then the ps line again
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| 16:57 | <JerryNJ> job already running
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| 16:57 | <sbalneav> sudo stop tftpd-hpa
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| 16:57 | sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 16:57 | <JerryNJ> kk
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| 16:58 | tftpd stop/waiting
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| 16:58 | <sbalneav> has it hung there, or did the prompt returned?
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| 16:58 | <JerryNJ> prompt returned
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| 16:58 | <sbalneav> did you do the start?
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| 16:59 | <JerryNJ> yes - back at the prompt
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| 16:59 | <sbalneav> ok ps -ef | grep tftpd
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| 17:00 | <JerryNJ> same as earlier
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| 17:00 | <JerryNJ> veraciti 2392 2362 0 16:53 pts/0
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| 17:00 | <knipwim> sbalneav: the configure for libnss_sshsock is complaining about "aclocal-1.11: couldn't open directory `m4': No such file or directory"
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| 17:01 | shouldn't the m4 be included with the sources?
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| 17:02 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: pastebinit /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 17:02 | knipwim: Humm, that's something I haven't figured out yet.
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| 17:02 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: are you typing the output by hand, instead of copy/pasting?
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| 17:03 | <JerryNJ> http://pastebin.com/CwHjf218
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| 17:04 | <alkisg> You shouldn't put your windows server ip in that file
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| 17:04 | Leave the default 0.0.0.0:69 address
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| 17:04 | <JerryNJ> how do I change that?
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| 17:04 | <alkisg> How did you change it in the first place?
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| 17:04 | <JerryNJ> we had someone who had a tiny wee bit of linux knowledge
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| 17:05 | <alkisg> Ah. :-/
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| 17:05 | <JerryNJ> i wish that person was around to change it back
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| 17:05 | but he is not
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| 17:06 | so can I edit and change that value?
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| 17:08 | <alkisg> Is your ltsp server a remote one, or are you working directly on it?
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| 17:09 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: yeah, that's the proble,
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| 17:09 | should be 0.0.0.0:69
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| 17:10 | JerryNJ: yeah, just edit the file.
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| 17:10 | <knipwim> sbalneav: apparently it's a bug in aclocal
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| 17:11 | creating an empty m4 dir before calling aclocal fixed the problem
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| 17:11 | <sbalneav> knipwim: It seems silly that I should have to include an empty directory as part of my "distribution" :)
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| 17:11 | <JerryNJ> ok changed it to 0.0.0.0
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| 17:12 | and restarted servrvice
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| 17:12 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: pastebinit again
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| 17:12 | so we can see the file
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| 17:13 | <knipwim> sbalneav: true, i can just as easily include the mkdir in the package
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| 17:14 | <JerryNJ> YAY
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| 17:14 | <sbalneav> knipwim: yeah, but it's more work then for packagers. I'm on the fence on this one.
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| 17:14 | <JerryNJ> it totally worked
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| 17:14 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: there you go.
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| 17:15 | knipwim: Can I GPL an empty directory?
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| 17:15 | :)
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| 17:15 | <knipwim> hehe
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| 17:15 | <sbalneav> "I hereby grant you the license to create empty directories, so long as you allow others to do the same"
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| 17:15 | * alkisg hopes noone patents the space where the universe is contained :P | |
| 17:15 | <sbalneav> Where do I put the license?
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| 17:16 | mkdir "The GNU GPL v 3.0: This license grants you blah blah blah...."
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| 17:17 | <JerryNJ> thank you guys
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| 17:17 | so so much
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| 17:17 | whats the default creds for the clients
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| 17:18 | <knipwim> sbalneav: in my experience it's common the put the license in a root LICENSE file
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| 17:18 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: you can use any account that you created on the ltsp server, to login on the clients
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| 17:19 | Now the next step for you is to read the lts.conf manpage about setting SCREEN_07=rdesktop in lts.conf
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| 17:19 | !lts.conf
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| 17:19 | <ltsp> alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 17:19 | <knipwim> although gentoo doesn't ship the license file from source, but refers to a know license file in the filesystem
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| 17:25 | <JerryNJ> Ack. Now I cant login from the client
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| 17:26 | jeez I feel stupid
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| 17:29 | <sbalneav> JerryNJ: has this server changed IP addresses recently?
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| 17:33 | alkisg: Is JerryNJ using rdesktop?
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| 17:34 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: I think his goal is to use ltsp as rdesktop clients
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| 17:34 | But currently, I don't think he's modified lts.conf yet
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| 17:34 | So, ldm/gnome
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| 17:37 | <JerryNJ> i havent modified lts.conf or anything
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| 17:37 | no the IP has not changed
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| 17:37 | ultimately I just want to launch rdesktop to a specific Win server
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| 17:38 | so maybe I can forgo trying to login when the pxe client boots
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| 17:38 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: create the following file: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 17:38 | And put the following contents in it:
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| 17:38 | [Default]
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| 17:38 | <JerryNJ> how?
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| 17:39 | <alkisg> SCREEN_07=rdesktop
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| 17:39 | RDP_SERVER=windows-server-ip
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| 17:39 | The same way you edited the tftp file
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| 17:39 | What did you use? gedit? vi? nano?
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| 17:39 | <JerryNJ> vi
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| 17:39 | <alkisg> Whatever editor you're familiar with
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| 17:39 | Yeah that then
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| 17:40 | Save, reboot the client, you should be in your windows server login prompt
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| 17:40 | bbl (=be back later)
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| 17:46 | <JerryNJ> i did all rgar
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| 17:47 | er did all that
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| 17:47 | but it booted to the same ubuntu screen
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| 18:02 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: then you probably have a syntax error, pastebin the file
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| 18:37 | <JerryNJ> i got it working now
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| 18:39 | <alkisg> Nice
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| 18:41 | <JerryNJ> thank you
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| 18:42 | any advice on removing stuff I dont need on the LTSP server?
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| 18:42 | the gui is nice, but the purpose of the box is just to rdesktop
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| 18:43 | <alkisg> Yeah you don't even need X on that box. But I wouldn't bother trying to remove all that stuff, too much work for nothing
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| 18:43 | You could have started with the ubuntu server cd, or the minimal cd, or something like that
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| 18:45 | <JerryNJ> fair enough
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| 18:45 | i will leave it as is
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| 18:51 | <knipwim> nice, libpam-sshauth and libnss-sshsock packaged for gentoo :)
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| 18:55 | <JerryNJ> any idea how I can enable sound from the server to the client
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| 18:55 | or mount local usb drives?
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| 19:02 | ltspfs?
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| 19:37 | <stgraber> JerryNJ: for sound, you probably want to set RDP_OPTIONS to -r sound:local
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| 19:37 | <JerryNJ> anyone know how i can redirect sound from rdesktop to my thin clients?
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| 19:37 | <stgraber> JerryNJ: for drives, ltspfs should do the trick yes, haven't use it in a while so not sure how well it does it at the moment
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| 19:37 | I think -r disk:media=/media should do the trick for the drives
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| 19:38 | <JerryNJ> stgraber: thanks trying it now
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| 19:41 | <Gadi> JerryNJ: you need to install ltspfs package in the chroot and update the image, as well
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| 19:41 | (only ltspfsd is installed in the chroot by default)
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| 19:50 | <JerryNJ> how do i install ltspfs and update?
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| 19:50 | <- noob
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| 19:53 | <Gadi> JerryNJ: do this:
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| 19:53 | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 19:53 | apt-get install ltspfs
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| 19:53 | apt-get clean
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| 19:53 | exit
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| 19:53 | sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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| 19:54 | once the image is updated, reboot the client
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| 20:15 | <JerryNJ> gadi: trying this now
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| 20:18 | gadi: couldnt find package ltspfs
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| 20:18 | <Gadi> try: apt-get update
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| 20:18 | then: apt-get install ltspfs
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| 20:20 | <JerryNJ> gadi: looks like its installing now , when its done can I add to the -r on the same line as the rdesktop script?
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| 20:21 | <Gadi> JerryNJ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/RdesktopLocaldev
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| 20:21 | that should help
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| 20:21 | <JerryNJ> gadi: right now my rdesktop looks likeL
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| 20:21 | screen_07=rdesktop -r sound:local
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| 20:22 | <Gadi> yeah, so that won't work at all
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| 20:22 | :)
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| 20:22 | <JerryNJ> can I add the -r disk=media...... to this line?
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| 20:22 | <Gadi> what is the IP of the server?
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| 20:22 | (the windows server)
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| 20:23 | <JerryNJ> 192.168.51.9
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| 20:23 | <Gadi> so there are two ways to specify in lts.conf - your choice. either:
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| 20:23 | SCREEN_07 = "rdesktop -r sound:local -r disk:Drives=/media/root 192.168.51.9"
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| 20:24 | just like that on one line
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| 20:24 | OR:
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| 20:24 | RDP_OPTIONS = "-r sound:local -r disk:Drives=/media/root"
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| 20:24 | <Gadi> RDP_SERVER = 192.168.51.9
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| 20:24 | SCREEN_07 = rdesktop
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| 20:24 | (in 3 lines)
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| 20:25 | recently, somebody pushed a change to upstream that does not properly set automatically the params: -f and -u ''
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| 20:25 | <Gadi> for fullscreen and no username
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| 20:25 | so, you *may* need to add those options as well
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| 20:26 | <JerryNJ> and this will map the LOCAL client-side drives?
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| 20:26 | <prukker> (sorry)
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| 20:26 | <Gadi> read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/RdesktopLocaldev
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| 20:27 | JerryNJ: btw, you in Jersey?
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| 20:27 | :)
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| 20:27 | <JerryNJ> yes
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| 20:27 | * Gadi waves from over the bridge | |
| 20:27 | <JerryNJ> that page was minimally helpful
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| 20:27 | you are way more helpful
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| 20:27 | and yep in NJ
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| 20:27 | <Gadi> heh
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| 20:27 | I only told you what is there
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| 20:28 | * Gadi refrains from doing the NYer thing and making fun of the reading level of folks from NJ | |
| 20:28 | <Gadi> :)
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| 20:28 | <JerryNJ> im from Manhattan
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| 20:28 | <Gadi> (only joking)
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| 20:28 | ah
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| 20:28 | <JerryNJ> originally
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| 20:28 | linux makes me nervous
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| 20:28 | im a windows guy
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| 20:29 | <Gadi> don't be nervous
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| 20:29 | lots of friends here
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| 20:29 | and beer
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| 20:29 | <JerryNJ> thanks man
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| 20:30 | <Gadi> look, you made it into IRC. that's hlaf the battle right there for a Windows guy
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| 20:30 | :)
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| 20:30 | <JerryNJ> been in irc for years
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| 20:30 | btw - clients arent booting now since i changed those params
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| 20:31 | <Gadi> can you paste your lts.conf?
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| 20:31 | (and are theyy not booting or just not coming up to Windows?)
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| 20:31 | <JerryNJ> notcoming to windowas
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| 20:31 | er windows
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| 20:31 | <Gadi> ok
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| 20:32 | <prukker> 'llo. problem : my client fails to boot the image where ldm is in. I can tftp the first initrd-i386 and linux-i386
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| 20:32 | <Gadi> let's see what you put
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| 20:32 | <prukker> but after that I receive no dhcp address; I suspect the NIC driver.
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| 20:32 | <prukker> but how do I find which driver to load ? after 120 seconds, it reboots, and I can't login
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| 20:32 | <Gadi> prukker: what distro/version?
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| 20:33 | <prukker> I use Suse 11.4, but use a built Suse 11.3
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| 20:33 | mmm
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| 20:33 | my desktop = Suse 11.4
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| 20:33 | my images = 11.3
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| 20:33 | <JerryNJ> can i screenshot this or pastebin it?
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| 20:33 | <Gadi> prukker: suse uses "kiwi-ltsp" which is different enough from ltsp to make it difficult for those of us in #ltsp to support
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| 20:34 | JerryNJ: you can pastebinit the file
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| 20:34 | prukker: there is a #kiwi-ltsp or #kiwi, I believe
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| 20:34 | <prukker> Gadi : so I better go to kiwi-ltsp, right ?
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| 20:34 | <JerryNJ> gadi: http://pastebin.com/yvmAFZLv
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| 20:34 | <Gadi> prukker: I think they would be more helpful, yeah
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| 20:35 | ah, so JerryNJ you mixed my two options:
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| 20:35 | <Gadi> *either* only use a one-liner screen_07
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| 20:35 | *or* use three separate lines
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| 20:35 | don't use a combination
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| 20:36 | and, I always put double-quotes around values with spaces
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| 20:41 | <JerryNJ> gadi:
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| 20:41 | <JerryNJ> can you adjust it and show me
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| 20:41 | <Gadi> sure
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| 20:41 | <JerryNJ> <-windows guy
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| 20:42 | <Gadi> so, either: http://pastebin.com/TRrGSUbF
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| 20:44 | or: or: http://pastebin.com/SbmuCSRX
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| 20:45 | <JerryNJ> which do you like better
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| 20:45 | <Gadi> personally, I am a fan of the one-liner, because you could, if you wanted to, run a completely different rdp session at the same time on a second screen
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| 20:46 | but, most folks around here seem to break it up
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| 20:46 | I guess they find it more readable
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| 20:49 | <JerryNJ> i used the one-liner
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| 20:49 | looks like its working, but hang tight
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| 20:51 | so if i wanted to mount usb-drives do you know of anything i could do to detect and mount on the client-side
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| 20:51 | <Gadi> it should work now
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| 20:51 | when you go to My Computer,
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| 20:51 | <JerryNJ> it mounts something
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| 20:52 | <Gadi> you should see a "drives on bleh" folder
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| 20:52 | <JerryNJ> says floppy
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| 20:52 | lol
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| 20:52 | <Gadi> inside that drives share, a folder is created for each drive
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| 20:52 | plug in a flash drive and refresh and you should see a new folder
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| 20:53 | (floppy == your client's floppy drive)
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| 20:53 | <JerryNJ> yeah i see drives on ltsp115
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| 20:53 | looks like i can write to it
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| 20:53 | <Gadi> do you see folders inside of it?
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| 20:54 | <JerryNJ> working
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| 20:54 | yay
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| 20:54 | usb printers?
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| 20:54 | lol
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| 20:55 | <Gadi> well, printers in ltsp by default are handled differently than rdp normally handles them (tho, I have written some code that at some point needs to go into upstream ltsp to help with that)
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| 20:55 | by default, printers in ltsp are redirected to the network as jet-direct printers
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| 20:55 | so, on the server side, you would create a queue pointing to the thin client port 9100
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| 20:56 | what is not in the default code is anything to automatically create print queues on the client to take adv of auto-redirection through rdp
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| 20:57 | <JerryNJ> Gadi, you have been super helpful
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| 20:57 | wish i had a direct line to ask questions if need be
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| 20:58 | <Gadi> #ltsp is your direct line
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| 20:58 | :)
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| 20:58 | we tend to be super helpful here
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| 20:58 | or try to be
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| 20:58 | <Gadi> keep in mind, most of ltsp is designed around connecting to Linux
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| 20:58 | it is only guys like me that care about connecting to Windows, too
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| 20:58 | :)
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| 20:59 | but, as a result, less attention (dev wise) is paid to optimizing for rdp
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| 21:00 | that said, with cool and active projects like freerdp taking off, we may see a lot more work pouring in
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| 21:00 | <JerryNJ> one last q
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| 21:00 | i know in ltsp.conf i can add some code to bracket a mac address and connect to ANOTHER windows machine
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| 21:01 | do you recall that code
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| 21:01 | <Gadi> sure
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| 21:02 | so, think of lts.conf as a .ini file
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| 21:02 | (since you are a Windows guy ;) )
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| 21:02 | just add another stanza
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| 21:02 | [aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff]
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| 21:02 | param = value
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| 21:02 | where, in the brackets, you put the MAC address
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| 21:03 | and underneath you put at least one value
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| 21:03 | and the mac address stanzas inherit and override from default
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| 21:04 | <JerryNJ> and if the port is different that it accepts rdp connections from?
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| 21:04 | <Gadi> ah
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| 21:04 | one sec
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| 21:04 | <JerryNJ> maybe ip:port
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| 21:04 | ?
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| 21:04 | <Gadi> you can do: server:port
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| 21:04 | yeah
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| 21:04 | (just verified)
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| 21:05 | if you want options for rdesktop, simply: man rdesktop
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| 21:05 | (in a terminal)
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| 21:05 | it will give you the options avaialble
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| 21:07 | <corewin> Hi all
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| 21:10 | <JerryNJ> cool
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| 21:10 | testing now
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| 21:12 | hey gadi
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| 21:12 | looks like its only booting to default
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| 21:12 | weird
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| 21:12 | does default have to be under the specified MAC entries?
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| 21:12 | <Gadi> sure you have the right mac addy for the thin client?
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| 21:12 | <JerryNJ> im never sure
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| 21:13 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 21:13 | <JerryNJ> i will look
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| 21:13 | <Gadi> oh, and if you used the one-liner in default, make sure you use the same one-liner (with IP changed) in the MAC addy stanza
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| 21:14 | because you are in effect overriding the SCREEN_07 param
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| 21:14 | <corewin> anybody know how to fix the "failed to connect to NBD server" error when using a diffrent TFTP server?
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| 21:14 | <JerryNJ> http://pastebin.com/mEDJ4JfD
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| 21:15 | <Gadi> corewin: try specifying nbdroot=<ip> on the kernel command line in pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 21:15 | JerryNJ: you need colons
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| 21:15 | not dashes
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| 21:15 | in the mac addy
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| 21:15 | <corewin> i've tried that but did not work
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| 21:16 | <JerryNJ> kk changed and rebooting the client
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| 21:16 | <Gadi> corewin: what is the exact setup?
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| 21:19 | <corewin> I have a PC with one nic in it and a pfsense router. It works fine if I use the tftp server on the LTSP pc but when I copy the files from the ltsp pc to the pfsense I get failed to connect error. I've tried adding various lines to nbdroot including nbdroot=ip nbdroot=ip:port
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| 21:20 | i'm running ubuntu 10.04 lts
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| 21:22 | <Yoe> corewin: on the server, too?
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| 21:22 | <corewin> pxelinux.cfg/default file ?
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| 21:22 | <Yoe> corewin: I changed nbd-server so that it won't listen to ports anymore by default, without warning about it if a port configuration was found; that might have been a mistake
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| 21:23 | <JerryNJ> gadi: no worky
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| 21:23 | <Yoe> no, I mean, are you running 10.04 LTS on the server as well?
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| 21:23 | 'cause if you are, then the problem isn't that change that I made but something else
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| 21:23 | <Gadi> JerryNJ: lets see the latest
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| 21:23 | <corewin> yes on the server i'm runing 10.04 LTS
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| 21:24 | <Gadi> corewin: if you add "break=bottom" to the kernel command line, you can drop into the initramfs
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| 21:24 | and from there, you can try to connect to nbd from the initramfs
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| 21:24 | to verify that that works
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| 21:24 | <corewin> ok i'll try that
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| 21:25 | <JerryNJ> http://pastebin.com/PNnTtKez
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| 21:26 | <Gadi> corewin: you can use: nbd-client <server-ip> 2000 /dev/nbd0
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| 21:26 | <squaregoldfish> Suddenly, ltsp-update-image do nothing. Not even an error. Can someone help me work out what's wrong please?
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| 21:26 | <JerryNJ> btw - it does boot, and must see the mac, so it ends up at the ubuntu login screen
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| 21:27 | <squaregoldfish> *does nothing
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| 21:27 | <Gadi> JerryNJ: you have SCREEN-07 instead of SCREEN_07 <- typo alert!
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| 21:27 | squaregoldfish: distro/version?
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| 21:28 | <squaregoldfish> Ubuntu last LTS release, LTSP version 5.2.1-0ubuntu9
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| 21:28 | <JerryNJ> axck
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| 21:28 | retrying
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| 21:29 | <Gadi> squaregoldfish: are you missing your chroots? /opt/ltsp/
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| 21:30 | squaregoldfish: and are you running it as: sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 21:30 | <squaregoldfish> No. I can enter chroot and see the full file system. Running as sudo too.,
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| 21:30 | gadi: ^
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| 21:31 | <Gadi> squaregoldfish: what changed since you last ran the command?
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| 21:31 | did you uninstall something in the chroot?
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| 21:32 | <squaregoldfish> gadi: Updated packages on server, and in the chroot. In the chroot, apt-get listed a bunch of packages to auto-remove, so I did. Must say I didn't check what they were, so it could well be that.
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| 21:32 | <Gadi> squaregoldfish: go back in the chroot, and see if you have ltsp-client
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| 21:32 | <JerryNJ> working like a charm Gadi
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| 21:33 | <Gadi> excellent!
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| 21:33 | squaregoldfish: my guess is you removed ltsp-client or ltsp-client-core
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| 21:33 | <squaregoldfish> gadi: It's gone. Silly auto-remove! (Or silly me for trusting it). Anything else I need?
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| 21:33 | <Gadi> squaregoldfish: if you did not make too many modifications, you may be well served to just rerun ltsp-build-client
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| 21:34 | squaregoldfish: otherwise, hopefully reinstalling that will do the trick
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| 21:34 | :)
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| 21:34 | but, not sure
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| 21:34 | gotta run
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| 21:34 | bbian
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| 21:34 | <squaregoldfish> gadi. It's suggested lots of other packages too, so we'll see what happens.....
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| 21:34 | <Gadi> bbiab
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| 22:18 | <squaregoldfish> gadi: all worked OK. Had to rebuild nbd-server config too for some reason. Anywahy, it's all good - thanks!
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