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good morning everyone
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good morning mgariepy
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i'm trying to set up a ltsp thinclient environment. mostly everything is working fine but when trying to use crossover or wine the application freezes when it shows a dialog box. at first i thought it may be the emulator but i'm not sure that it is on the account that both emulators freeze in the exact same spot.
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i'm trying to set up a ltsp/thinclient environment. All the built in stuff works great, however when i open a windows app using both crossover or wine and it displays a dialog box teh whole screen freezes. I'm really not sure what's going on. I love what i've seen so far and would really like to get this to work.
the strange thing is everything works just fine when i use a local session, but if i use one of the thinclients is when it freezes
Do you have anything in your lts.conf?
everything is default except for ip's
So you don't have an lts.conf?
(by default there is none)
How much RAM on the thin client?
500MB i believe
And you're using it as a thin client, no localapps, no fat clients or other fancy stuff, right?
nothing at all
just the server and 1 thinclient
Are you trying to run a specific app, or does it happen with any app?
E.g. the wine notepad?
is the type of thinclient i have
i can try notepad if you would like
Ah, does that have openchrome?
it has no local apps
alkisg: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
On a localxterm, run: lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
What do you get?
would that be after the pxe boot or befor?
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After you login
like a local session or the remote session
A remote session
Any would do
If you have a local session, then run it there
I just want to see the graphics card and the driver used
i was going to say i cant do that locally
ok on second please
when i do that it shows the servers video card
i'm sorry i didnt see the other part
Right so it has a chrome card, that's why I was saying about openchrome
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sorry, i thought you were talking about the browser :x
do you think this is the source of my problem?
On the thin client, on a normal gnome-terminal, what do you get with: ps -e | grep compiz
And with: ps -e | grep metacity
yes hold i will paste
No no need
Try opening /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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In there, put "nomodeset" right next to "quiet splash"
i can do that from the server correct?
Reboot the client, and try running: wine notepad
fyi, i can already open an app
it's when it shows a dialog box or something similar. not sure if you ever used rsa's securid app. the actuall program loads but when i got to menu>select token and the dialog shows is when it freeze. i can open ms office 2007 fine and modify the default document.
logging in now
Ah, that's why I asked above about (08:18:39 PM) alkisg: Are you trying to run a specific app, or does it happen with any app?
I thought that was with *any* wine app
So that specific application runs on the server but hangs on the thin client?
notepad opened fine
was able to open the save as dialog just fine
tried the rsa securid software again and again it froze.
And that software runs on the server without hanging?
sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
In there, put:
Then reboot the client and try again launching the software
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loggin in now
Check also ~/.xsession-errors for that user
Other than those, no idea...
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alkisg: does any give you any ideas?
Nope. If you have another client handy, I'd try with a client that has a different graphics card, to ensure that it's a driver/wine issue.
it's the only thinclient i have, can i use another computer with pxe?
Sure, any computer will do
Even if it doesn't have pxe :)
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For managing fat clients in the future, I'm thinking the following scenario: the user installs any distro in a vbox normally, without using ltsp-build-client. He adds apps with synaptic, uses sabayon to specify preferences etc etc. Nothing related to ltsp so far.
Then he installs ltsp-client inside the image. And finally he calls a special version of "ltsp-update-image-vbox" script which uses vdfuse to mount the vbox disk and then squashfs'es it into /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img.
For that to work, the ltsp-client initramfs + initscripts should be smart enough to just exit if the chroot is booted locally (i.e. from within the vbox image).
Would anyone mind if some code snippets were added in this direction?
i'm trying to pxe boot using this netbook and it says invalid card number. how else can i test this?
Invalid card number? Maybe it's missing a module... No, vnc won't do.
alkisg: why not use ltsp-build-client?
vagrantc: just because there's no need for it in that scenario
The OS will be inside the vbox disk
alkisg: ok, then... why use virtualbox?
To have GUI access to the chroot
basically so you don't have to understand what you're doing?
Teachers know how to use GUIs but not console
So I'm thinking it'll be an alternative way for them to manage a chroot
E.g. how can one use sabayon in an ltsp chroot now?
Or gconf-editor? Or synaptic? Etc etc..
The same snippets could be used if one decides to have a normal workstation as a "chroot template"
I.e. not to have a vbox image, but a standalone PC, and use that as the chroot
I don't think more that 10-20 lines will be needed...
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alkisg how else can i test this if not vnc? would it be possible to test using a windows box?
m4xx_: with another pc...
Since it's already running on the server, I don't think vnc/windows will be helpful
all the other pc's i try all fail to pxe boot
...but another thin client that only has a graphics driver different would tell you it's indeed a driver problem
alkisg: "gpxe" :: the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
i tried a netbook and an emachines
Instead of pxe booting you can use gpxe ^^^
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or apparently, ipxe... ugh.
No rom-o-matic for ipxe yet ;)
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i've tried to boot using that disk on 3 different computers, not one of them worked =[
i've tried to boot via nic pxe on 2 different computers, neither worked.
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m4xx_: what disk?
by "disk" do you mean 3.5" floppy?
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no i'm using the is and burned it to a cd
actually i did get it to bood from one nic's pxe but the screen was up side down some how
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for anyone wondering, ltsp-cluster = awesome
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so, I installed Ubuntu 10.4 & LTSP using the alternate install CD
server has two nics, and while ifconfig shows them both up, I can't get a client to boot.
I've got tcpdump running on eth1, but I don't see any packets coming in when the client broadcasts a request for an IP address.
I've verified the cable is good, the switch works. I'm stumped.
The nic for eth1 is gigabit, and the switch has two gbit ports and 24 100Mb ports.
At first I was just using a 100Mb switch, as I'm just testing at this point.
But when the client wouldn't boot, I changed to the switch with the gbit port in case the card was not negotiating its speed down to 100Mb.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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Does LTSP have dual screen ability??
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