IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 24 December 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 12:53 | <alkisg> mmarconm: the ltsp server usually is a template for the clients; but nowadays that installations may only have fat clients, it can be without desktop environment too; it's just not usual
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| 12:54 | <mmarconm> O
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| 12:54 | Ok
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| 12:55 | <alkisg> In general, following the installation page will save you much trouble and give you the best advice on distro, de, configuration, etc etc
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| 12:55 | !install
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| 12:55 | <ltsp> install: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu for Ubuntu, or http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation for other distributions
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| 13:14 | <mmarconm> Thanks, i followed both installation, chroot and chrooless, buth working, using chroot installation
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| 16:25 | <josefig> hey gm, ma' friends
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| 16:59 | <vagrantc> alkisg: what's the minimum ubuntu version you support? 18.04 ?
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| 16:59 | alkisg: looking at bumping the debhelper dependency for ltsp...
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| 17:10 | <alkisg> vagrantc: sure
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| 17:10 | * alkisg isn't sure why that's a good thing, but it doesn't hurt now | |
| 17:11 | <alkisg> (i mean, "no recent debhelper" is always a problem in many package buidls in launchpad, and I don't know when bumping the version actually helps, if we don't need anything from the new version anyway...)
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| 17:12 | <vagrantc> it's more just housecleaning, from my perspective
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| 17:12 | we don't *need* it, per se
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| 17:13 | <alkisg> I thought >= version was defined only when specific things were needed...
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| 17:13 | anyway, I don't have any issue regarding ltsp/debhelper
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| 17:13 | For epoptes, it'd be nice to keep it compatible with at least 16.04
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> ok
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| 17:15 | 16.04 + backports ok, if it comes up?
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| 17:15 | apparently alreaddy broke that for epoptes
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| 17:17 | there's a newish thing that allows setting only a build-depends on debhelper-compat (=X) rather than setting it both in debian/compat and build-depends >=X
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| 17:18 | i'm not sure if it's in ubuntu versions or not
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| 17:20 | so it'd be nice to not specify compat level in two places
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| 17:31 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I think the last time I needed to upload epoptes for 16.04, it didn't build on launchpad, so I built it for bionic and copied the binary instead
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| 17:32 | I can do that again if it makes your life easier, so go ahead and do the changes you're thinking
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| 17:32 | <vagrantc> alkisg: well, the epoptes changes were already pushed
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| 17:32 | in september or so
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| 17:32 | <alkisg> I mean the debhelper-compat thing, that's not yet pushed, is it?
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| 17:33 | <vagrantc> no
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| 17:33 | it's not a huge deal either way
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| 17:33 | 18.04 supports debhelper 11, but maybe not a new enough version for debhelper-compat mechanism
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| 17:34 | so i can stick to the old method and it's fine
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| 17:37 | <alkisg> vagrantc: how easy would it be to get epoptes 1.0 to stretch-backports?
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| 17:37 | I just tried to install it on raspbian and I had to use the ubuntu ppa...
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| 17:44 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i would have to request upload rights to stretch-backports, and i suspect the upload would be simple
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| 17:44 | alkisg: but raspbian isn't supported in stretch-backports
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| 17:45 | alkisg: it's a separate distro, like ubuntu
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| 17:45 | (or derivative)
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| 17:45 | <alkisg> vagrantc: eh, they're based on stretch etc
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| 17:46 | They do copy the packages... not sure about the backports... but I would just put debian's repository anyway
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| 17:46 | for epoptes
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| 17:46 | apt policy epoptes => 500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian stretch/main armhf Packages
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| 17:46 | They don't even use different names, it's plain stretch there
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| 17:50 | <vagrantc> could cause issues as raspbian isn't really armhf, it's armhf backported to armv6
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| 17:50 | it really shouldn't have used the same architecture name
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| 17:52 | <alkisg> armv6 is for rpi1, while rpi2 is armv7?
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| 17:52 | <vagrantc> yeah
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| 17:52 | <alkisg> Hmm that's why the epoptes ppa worked :D
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| 17:52 | <vagrantc> but some of your binaries built for amrv6, and some built for armv7 ... maybe result in unexpected behavior
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| 17:53 | it's likely to work, but ... there could be difficult perplexing issues
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| 17:53 | <alkisg> Btw raspbian ships the newest realvnc, it's way better than the other vnc viewers
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| 17:54 | Automatic scaling, -listen accepts multiple connections...
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| 17:54 | I wonder if I should write a wiki page about it, for people asking how to have automatic scaling...
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| 17:56 | <vagrantc> you've got the taste for all the best vintage VNC clients
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| 17:57 | they seem to change eery other year
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| 17:58 | <alkisg> Eh, the default one in debian doesn't work...
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| 17:58 | It doesn't even allow the teacher to multicast his screen :/
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| 18:01 | Wow raspbian stretch chrome supports hw acceleration in youtube!
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| 18:01 | Full screen youtube is possible! Wow! :)
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| 23:05 | <vagrantc> alkisg: hrm. ltsp-config can't have it's example files in /usr/share/ltsp-server/examples ... it breaks the program when nodoc is built...
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| 23:09 | and not very gracefully...
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| 23:29 | <alkisg> vagrantc: where would we put them?
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| 23:38 | move them from /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples to /usr/share/ltsp-server?
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| 23:57 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i've committed a patch locally to /usr/share/ltsp/examples
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| 23:57 | although maybe "templates" would be more appropriate
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| 23:58 | alkisg: it's simple to fall-back to /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples
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