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| 13:48 | <Leolo_3> Hello. I have just upgraded an office to LTSP 5
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| 13:48 | I'm having an issue with some of the computers
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| 13:49 | they can see the xdm window (Welcome to $(HOSTNAME)) but not the login part
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| 13:49 | that is, PasswdPrompt and namePrompt aren't being displayed
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| 13:50 | the real WTF is that some computers it works, some computers it doesn't work
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| 14:32 | <Leolo_3> ok, now I know what the problem is
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| 14:32 | Xorg was using 8 bit colour depth
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| 14:33 | the intel driver (82845G chipset) isn't working properly
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| 14:33 | now to force the vesa driver
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| 14:35 | do things like XSERVER and X_COLOR_DEPTH still work
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| 15:10 | <bennabiy> Leolo_3: Can you please give a little more information about the distribution and such you are using? can you please pastebin the output of ltsp-info?
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| 15:11 | !pastebin | echo Leolo_3
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| 15:11 | <ltsp`> Leolo_3 pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 15:15 | <Leolo_3> the problem is intel_drv.so is setting itself up for 8 bit
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| 15:15 | if I move that driver out of the way (mv intel_drv.so intel_drv.so-NOT) it uses vesa_drv.so and it works
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| 15:16 | <bennabiy> Leolo_3: what distro?
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| 15:16 | <Leolo_3> Red Hat 6
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| 15:16 | XSERVER=vesa doesn't work
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| 15:16 | X_COLOR_DEPTH=24
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| 15:16 | doesn't work
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| 15:16 | <bennabiy> ah. I am not sure what happened with the one who was supporting Red Hat / CentOS. Someone was doing some work on it, but has not been around in about a year
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| 15:17 | <ogra_> there were several over the years
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| 15:17 | <Leolo_3> actually CentOS 6.5
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| 15:17 | yeah, red hat is a orphan distro it seems
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| 15:17 | <bennabiy> ogra_: yes, but I was thinking of Josh (I think that was his name)
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| 15:17 | enslaver
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| 15:17 | !seen enslaver
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| 15:17 | <ltsp`> enslaver was last seen in #ltsp 46 weeks, 3 days, 13 hours, 43 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Enslaver> can't complain too much, better than my last one
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| 15:18 | * bennabiy has no motivation to run LTSP on RedHat | |
| 15:18 | <ogra_> since warren togami was pushed out of doing it by his employer we only had people drop in like: "oohh i want this to work ond fedora/redhat" then they implemented the basics of it and vanished
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| 15:18 | happens every other year
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| 15:19 | <bennabiy> heh, sounds like me
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| 15:19 | <ogra_> sadly it means that it never completely works on RH
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| 15:19 | bennabiy, nah, you are still here, arent you ? :)
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| 15:19 | <Leolo_3> well, it "works" on RH except for a few bits that don't
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| 15:19 | <bennabiy> here, yes, but I only get time to work on code which affects my setup, unless the rare opportunity comes up to help out
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| 15:20 | <Leolo_3> doen't work : nbd, RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES, X_COLOR_DEPTH
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| 15:21 | <ogra_> right, the basics work
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| 15:21 | <bennabiy> Leolo_3: you can always take a stab at being the RH / Cent developer :)
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| 15:21 | <ogra_> :)
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| 15:21 | <bennabiy> vagrantc did a wonderful presentation on maintaining code you do not understand... I highly recommend it ;)
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| 15:25 | <Leolo_3> I wouldn't know where to begin
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| 15:26 | ere's a question : where does lts.conf get transformed into an xorg.conf (for instance?)
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| 15:26 | <bennabiy> You can get on launchpad and look over the last couple commits and merge requests for RH support
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| 15:26 | in the client scripts
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| 15:26 | if I recall correctly
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| 15:26 | <Leolo_3> "client scripts"
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| 15:27 | where do these live and where are they called from?
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| 15:27 | <ogra_> Leolo_3, the scripts the ltsp-client packages installs when it gets installed inside the client chroot
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| 15:27 | *package
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| 15:28 | <bennabiy> Leolo_3: I would download the latest source (if you can bzr pull it ) and pick through it
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| 15:28 | <Leolo_3> S85ltsp-core
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| 15:29 | hmm... what I want is probably in the initrd
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| 15:34 | nope, can't find it
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| 15:35 | where is lts.conf downloaded?
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| 15:37 | aha! init-ltsp!
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| 15:37 | <ogra_> but it is onl processed later in the boot
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| 16:53 | <rkwesk> Hello. I wish to add some updated material to ltsp wiki concerning Debian. Can anyone help?
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| 16:56 | <vagrantc> which wiki?
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| 16:57 | <rkwesk> whichever is more appropriate. Debian Lenny is referenced whereas with your help we have stuff for wheezy and jessie
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| 16:58 | <vagrantc> what do you need help with? it's so outdated and littered with poor advice, i'd welcome someone to update it
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| 16:59 | i think it's an open registration wiki on wiki.debian.org
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| 16:59 | <rkwesk> I have registered an account but it seems confusing how to use it to add or update stuff
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| 17:01 | * vagrantc has never found wikis to be very intuitive | |
| 17:01 | <rkwesk> if it is okay just to try and try different ways to upload pages i don't mind trying
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| 17:01 | <vagrantc> upload ages, rather than edit them?
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| 17:02 | <rkwesk> well sure i can try to edit if that is permitted
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| 17:02 | <vagrantc> rkwesk: i'd suggest starting out by creating a sub-page like wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Jessie and experimenting with it
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| 17:03 | i don't have the most reliable internet connection today, so may drop out at any moment
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| 17:03 | <rkwesk> okay i will try that. by the way i refer to the steps i wrote and you commented and i redid etc
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| 17:04 | <vagrantc> ah, that was some pretty specific stuff.
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| 17:04 | ltsp-pnp and all that
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| 17:04 | <rkwesk> so you thonk it inappropriate for the wiki?
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| 17:04 | <vagrantc> which could really use improvements
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| 17:05 | inappropriate as generic documentation
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| 17:05 | but would be good supplimental docs
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| 17:06 | <rkwesk> what about a general description of some variants like pnp vs not and nfs vs nbd
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| 17:06 | <vagrantc> ideally, first document the defaults, then document the additional features
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| 17:06 | i.e. on debain default is thin client with NFS...
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| 17:07 | a section titled NBD, Fat Clients, PNP (i wish we had a better name for that)
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| 17:08 | * vagrantc draws blanks every time | |
| 17:08 | <vagrantc> i guess it's "building a fat client out of the server os"
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| 17:08 | <rkwesk> so i can write up some sub page and try to upload it or can submit it to somewhere else for review first. which is preferred
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| 17:08 | <vagrantc> not exactly catchy, but descriptive
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| 17:09 | rkwesk: the other thing is to update ltsp-docs in bzr
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| 17:09 | <rkwesk> okay i can look ther also
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp-docs, maybe
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| 17:10 | code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/
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| 17:10 | should be findable from there, at least
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| 17:10 | <rkwesk> okay i will have a look
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> that's a bunch of xml or something
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| 17:11 | but is meant to be distro-agnostic
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| 17:11 | but it contains no mention of ltsp-pnp style things
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| 17:11 | rkwesk: thanks for taking a stab at it
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| 17:13 | <rkwesk> okay that seems a good place to start with general stuff. it seems you imply i just go ahead no review first?
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> rkwesk: for wiki.debian.org, sure.
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| 17:15 | rkwesk: for ltsp-docs, you'll need to make a bzr branch and submit a merge request
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| 17:15 | but it'd be good to get ltsp-docs updated in the next week or two so i can update the version in jessie
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| 17:17 | <rkwesk> okay iwill take a stab and if i get stuck i will come back here to ask for help again. Thank you for your valuable input.
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| 20:27 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: What are your thoughts on the bash bug?
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