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Channel log from 26 April 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:44 | <quinox> I believe the path of lts.conf is automatically determined by the booting client
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| 04:45 | from my own documentation: (default LTSP behaviour, some script inside the image: location of pxelinux minus pxelinux.0 plus lts.conf)
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| 04:47 | for me it's /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf
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| 04:47 | my clients get /ltsp/amd64/pxelinux as boot location
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| 04:49 | <alkisg> Sleaker: the client fetches lts.conf from the server using tftp, and puts it in the /etc/lts.conf path on the client
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| 04:49 | On the server, you configure where your tftp dir is from /etc/default/tftpd-hpa, or /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf, depending on which of those two you use
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| 04:50 | You can enable syslog messages for both of those tools, to see which server path you use for tftp
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| 04:50 | Common settings are /var/lib/tftpboot or /srv/tftp
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| 04:50 | Now, if ltsp-update-kernels sees both paths there, it doesn't know which of the two you're using, so it updates both, sometimes confusing people
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| 04:51 | !tftp
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| 04:51 | <ltsp`> tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 04:51 | <alkisg> This page has a command to pull files via tftp; you can easily do a small test and discover the correct path
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| 10:42 | <highvoltage> !cheapthinclient
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| 10:42 | <ltsp`> Error: "cheapthinclient" is not a valid command.
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| 10:43 | <highvoltage> !thinclient
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| 10:43 | <ltsp`> Error: "thinclient" is not a valid command.
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| 10:43 | <highvoltage> hmm
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> !cheap-client | echo highvoltage
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| 11:01 | <ltsp`> highvoltage cheap-client: https://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-c_11262/?attr=2081-1279
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| 11:58 | <highvoltage> ah yes that's the one, thanks alkisg :)
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| 12:25 | * alkisg would love to see mini pcs based on 8250u on that list... | |
| 12:26 | <alkisg> 7685 cpu score, would be enough for years to come
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| 12:28 | https://www.hystou.com/mini-pc-i5-8250u
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| 12:29 | https://www.geekbuying.com/item/VORKE-V2-Pro-i5-8250U-8GB-128GB-SSD-Mini-PC-394673.html
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| 12:34 | <highvoltage> nice
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| 17:16 | <Sleaker> alkisg: sure, it's just not well documented how the client searches for the lts.conf
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| 17:20 | <alkisg> Sleaker: documentation gladly accepted, if you want to offer :)
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| 17:23 | <Sleaker> haha
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| 17:23 | I'd need to know what it was actually doing first :P
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| 17:23 | got my client past where it was trying to connect to the ldm-server that I forgot to install cause ldm-server wasn't on older versions
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| 17:23 | <alkisg> Now that you know, can you document it? :)
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| 17:24 | <Sleaker> but I don't know!
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> I once offered in the mailing list, 'one tip for one page of documentation'
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| 17:24 | <Sleaker> lol
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> only one said "good idea" :)
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| 17:24 | So just accept, "no documentation for ltsp" :D
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| 17:25 | <Sleaker> yah. I have some internal readme's but they're outdated
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| 17:25 | and they don't cover the changes in the ltsp setup since I last built.
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| 17:26 | <vagrantc> there are countless random posts on the internet by people with variously advisable information
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| 17:26 | if we could get them to propose patches, we could accept the good bits, and toss out the not-so-good bits in a cohesive document...
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| 17:27 | <Sleaker> getting a monitor/videocard does not support ddc1 transfers atm
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| 17:28 | time to go digging into what I need to change for that.
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| 17:32 | ahh that's just dumping cause we call a get-edid in the screen session startup and the screen isn't starting up properly
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| 17:32 | heh
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| 17:41 | <Sleaker> also hi vagrantc. - you've helped us update this stuff in the past iirc.
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| 17:41 | <vagrantc> certainly possible :)
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| 17:42 | <Sleaker> hehe contract stuff couple years ago
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| 20:41 | <Sleaker> has anyone played around with generating images for arm clients? like a Pi?
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| 20:41 | client images*
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| 20:41 | <alkisg> !raspberrypi
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| 20:41 | <ltsp`> raspberrypi: (#1) Ubuntu/LTSP on Pi 2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/RaspberryPi, or (#2) Debian/LTSP (with raspbian chroot) on Pi: http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/, or (#3) unofficial Ubuntu/LTSP (with raspbian chroot) on Pi: http://pinet.org.uk/
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| 20:41 | <alkisg> Sleaker: ^
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| 20:42 | <Sleaker> ah cool thanks
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> Programming though, not playing :D
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| 20:42 | <Sleaker> haha
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| 20:43 | yah I'm doing all of this on stretch, so we'll see how far it gets. goign to work on getting the amd64 xserv stuff working
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| 20:43 | atm it's just booting and not properly launching the xserv client
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| 20:43 | trying to update from an older trusty installation
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| 20:43 | <alkisg> From trusty to stretch?
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| 20:44 | >:o
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| 20:46 | <Sleaker> yah
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| 20:46 | dumping ubuntu
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| 20:46 | lol
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| 20:46 | <alkisg> Sure, but... so different packages and dependencies... why not a clean install
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| 20:46 | <Sleaker> oh no. I use 'upgrade' loosely
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| 20:46 | it's a full new install
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| 20:46 | <alkisg> Phiew
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| 20:46 | <Sleaker> hahahaha
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| 20:46 | <alkisg> OK, I feel better now
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| 20:47 | <Sleaker> update in the sense that we had ltsp5-images built on trusty but using xenial
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| 20:47 | and I'm trying to get everything working using all stretch
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| 20:47 | <alkisg> OK, that's a lot more sensible, shouldn't be hard
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| 20:47 | <Sleaker> probably just convert it all to buster in a couple months too
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| 20:47 | yah.
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| 20:47 | vagrant helped us do it all a couple years ago.
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| 20:48 | mostly cause I was gone on vacation that week.
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| 20:48 | <alkisg> Vagrant helped with trusty? The traitor...
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| 20:48 | <Sleaker> hahahaha
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| 20:49 | your ltsp-pnp link has been moved
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| 20:49 | <alkisg> !install
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| 20:49 | <ltsp`> install: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu for Ubuntu, or http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation for other distributions
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| 20:50 | <Sleaker> it's at the bottom of the raspberryPi page that you linked
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| 20:50 | <alkisg> Yeah all those pages are pretty much to be deprecated
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| 20:51 | <Sleaker> mhmm
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| 20:51 | <alkisg> I currently only maintain the !install page; and from september I'll only be maintaining a couple of pages at github
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| 20:51 | I do maintain extensive documentation in greek, but noone wants to spend some time and mirror it in english
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| 20:52 | <Sleaker> lol
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| 20:52 | <alkisg> Whoops someone added notes about http_proxy there. Oh well.
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| 21:02 | <Sleaker> not sure why we never turned on syslog redirection.
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| 21:02 | seems important.
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| 21:02 | got that turned on now though.
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