IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 December 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:15 | <areguera> Hello
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| 07:33 | <alkisg> !uefi
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| 07:33 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'uefi', but I do know about these similar topics: 'users', 'usb'
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| 07:34 | <alkisg> !learn uefi as To boot UEFI clients with LTSP, switch them to Legacy BIOS (CSM). If you can't, then use google translate on this one: http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=6466.0
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| 07:34 | <ltsp`> The operation succeeded.
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| 07:34 | <alkisg> !local
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| 07:34 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'local', but I do know about these similar topics: 'install-localapp', 'localdev', 'localapps-print', 'RDP-localdev', 'localapps', 'LocaldevCommonGroupWorkaround', 'localxterm', 'local-disks', 'local-boot'
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| 07:46 | <alkisg> fiesh_: nope, I couldn't get remote opengl to work here in any case. So you think that if I try e.g. with a 5 years old Ubuntu live cd, it will work?
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| 07:47 | I tried with the simpest way possible, -tcplisten in xorg, xhost + in the session, and DISPLAY=<remote-ip> xterm on another PC, then glxinfo
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| 07:48 | That gave me software rendering, and very slow fps of course
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| 08:08 | <maldridge> sbalneav: thanks for the info, the system is seamlessly fetching information from our servers now!
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| 09:49 | <fiesh_> work_alkisg: our system here is very very up to date, I very much doubt an older system would do better
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| 09:50 | work_alkisg: haven't gotten around to testing the new xorg with vaapi enabled yet, will do that tomorrow, so cannot tell you if the update to mesa 11 for example might have made it stop working
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| 09:52 | work_alkisg: if you like, I can give you a tarball of a working client nfs root and the kernel
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| 10:08 | <alkisg> fiesh_: so the problem is client-side?
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| 10:09 | Sure, a tarball would help
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| 10:11 | If I remember well, it broke for you recently, but then LDM_DIRECTX=true fixed it again?
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| 10:15 | <fiesh_> no it broke because of a system update, and I suspect that it was because mesa 11 was built without vaapi support
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| 10:15 | enabling or disabling LDM_DIRECTX had no effect on opengl
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| 10:15 | <alkisg> OK, and currently it's working because you reverted to the old chroot?
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| 10:15 | <fiesh_> and I haven't gotten around to updating the client environment with vaapi enabled yet
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| 10:15 | yes, the old chroot works fine, and old is still very recent
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| 10:16 | we're talking about november's gentoo vs december's gentoo
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| 10:16 | <alkisg> why would vaapi affect glxinfo though?
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| 10:16 | <fiesh_> and most likely the only issue is the mesa 10 vs mesa 11 update
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| 10:16 | * alkisg tried with 11.0.6-1ubuntu1 | |
| 10:16 | <fiesh_> not quite sure, it's just a guess because vaapi is the intel computing interface and maybe mesa 11 needs it for whatnot
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| 10:16 | I'm just trying around
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| 10:17 | maybe it's also that mesa 11 broke it, if so, I'll have to figure out why
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| 10:17 | <alkisg> What's the mesa version in your old chroot?
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| 10:17 | <fiesh_> 10
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| 10:18 | <alkisg> I tried with client side=10.1.3-0ubuntu0.5 and it didn't work either
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| 10:18 | (ubuntu 14.04 - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libegl1-mesa)
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| 10:19 | <fiesh_> hmmm, I'll create a tarball of the client's chroot for you tomorrow and give you a link to download it
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| 10:19 | <alkisg> I'll try again with 12.04, i.e. mesa 8, tomorrow
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| 10:19 | fiesh_: your server-side is 11?
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| 10:19 | <fiesh_> yes
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> Nice, so it sounds like a regression that could be fixed
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| 10:20 | <fiesh_> if it even is the mesa version, yes, I'll have to investigate
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| 10:22 | <alkisg> instead of a tarball, you can use ltsp-update-image to create a squashfs file... it's easier to use, it doesn't have the --numeric-ids issues etc
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| 10:22 | <fiesh_> alas no, I can't really use ltsp-update-image under gentoo, all the kicktoo and what it uses is broken
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| 10:23 | so I resorted to having a chroot.sh shell script that chroots into the client chroot I want, I can update it there and so on, and that's mounted on the client
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| 10:24 | <alkisg> I meant instead of a .tar.gz file, not to boot the client with it
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| 10:24 | It's the same as running mksquashfs manually
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| 10:25 | (mksquashfs is available, isn't it?)
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| 10:25 | <fiesh_> I can run mksquashfs if you want that instead of making a tar.xz, sure
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| 10:25 | <alkisg> your kernel does support overlayfs, doesn't it?
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| 10:26 | <fiesh_> hmm, I am not sure
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| 10:26 | <alkisg> Then it'll also support booting from nbd...
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| 10:26 | <fiesh_> no that never worked
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| 10:26 | <alkisg> Which kernel version is that?
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| 10:26 | <fiesh_> 4.0.9
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| 10:26 | <alkisg> It will work then
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| 10:26 | (well, with the proper upstream ltsp scripts in place)
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| 10:26 | <fiesh_> 4.1.12 created issues with USB devices
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| 10:26 | I'll give you the kernel I'm using as well
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| 10:27 | I'll give you a tar.xz, ok? you can create a squashfs if you like, but it might be risky to depend on that right away since here only NFS is used as all the other options never worked smoothly for me
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| 10:27 | <alkisg> OK then use --numeric-ids
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| 10:27 | But I can unsquashfs easily and get the nfs chroot
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| 10:28 | * alkisg meant that it prefers .squashfs to .tar.gz for everything, not just chroots | |
| 10:28 | <alkisg> *he
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| 10:28 | <fiesh_> oh I see
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| 10:28 | <alkisg> I didn't mean that I wanted to use it via nbd...
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| 10:29 | For example, i can loop-mount it and then export it via nfs without unzipping it
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| 10:31 | <fiesh_> then I'll give you a squashfs
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| 10:35 | * alkisg waves for now... | |
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| 15:44 | <Dann> hello there
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| 15:45 | <alkisg> Hi
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