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Channel log from 13 March 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:32 | <Comete> hi
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| 02:37 | i'm looking for a way to make sure visual effect are disable for all users. Any idea ?
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| 03:32 | <Appiah> Comete: for lockdowns and making a template user and such use sabayon
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| 03:32 | or else you can do something with gconf and such gnome tools
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| 03:34 | <Comete> Appiah: nice i will look at it, thanks
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| 04:06 | <Comete> exit
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| 04:06 | oops :)
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| 04:06 | bye
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| 04:07 | <nubae> there is a surprising amount of really good templates for openoffice now... as compared to a couple years back
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| 04:07 | highvoltage: u there?
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| 04:34 | <highvoltage> nubae: yep. hi
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| 04:52 | <nubae> oh, hi highvoltage
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| 04:52 | carrying where we left of yesterday
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| 04:53 | I've done packaging for redhat and suse
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| 04:53 | but not for .debs...
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| 04:53 | However, I'd like to learn
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| 04:54 | Is there something relatively simple I could start with?
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| 04:54 | thats always the problem, finding some source to package that isn't a huge stack of disjointed items...
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| 04:54 | at least thats the way it is with rpms
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| 04:55 | greets alkisg
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| 04:55 | <alkisg> Hi nubae
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| 04:55 | <nubae> I just found pastebin kde widget... super little useful thing
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| 04:55 | for folks like us
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| 04:56 | http://imagebin.ca/view/IkA2LXW.html -- tell me what u think
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| 04:56 | <alkisg> If you're considering moodle, it's is already packaged, so it should be a good place to start
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| 04:56 | <nubae> constructive criticism welcome
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| 04:56 | well moodle is quite big... lots of different things
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| 04:56 | but if u think I can handle it I'll try
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| 04:57 | is the greek correct in the images?
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| 04:57 | <alkisg> GNOSIS? Yup, it's fine
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| 04:58 | I'd use a text path in gimp to bend the letters in the diploma, though
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| 04:58 | <nubae> the ischis dia tis gnoseos too?
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| 04:58 | bend how do u mean?
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| 04:58 | not sure I understand
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| 04:58 | <alkisg> Ah I didn't see that. Yeah, that's fine too
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| 04:58 | <nubae> which do u prefer, orange or green?
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> http://www.gimpers.com/how-to-make-curved-text-in-gimp/
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| 05:00 | <nubae> ah so its not so flat u mean?
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| 05:01 | <alkisg> Or http://gimp-tutorials.net/gimp-text-to-path-tutorial
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| 05:01 | Yeah, so it has the same angle as the diploma
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| 05:01 | <nubae> ok thanks.... green or orange?
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| 05:01 | <alkisg> orange
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| 05:02 | <nubae> yeah more modern I think...
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| 05:02 | hehe, love the fact it must be a 11 or 12 year old in the video
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| 05:03 | btw, I used inkscape
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| 05:03 | <alkisg> Ah, well it sure supports curved text too
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| 05:03 | <nubae> yeah
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| 05:05 | is there a smaller source i can practice on to turn into an edubuntu approved .deb?
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| 05:15 | <nubae> alkisg: should I use this?
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| 05:15 | https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
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| 05:52 | <alkisg> nubae: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
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| 14:23 | <Jinux> Hey
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| 14:23 | got a question:
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| 14:23 | Is there anyway to customise the client chroot
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| 14:24 | so they only get certain menu options etc..
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| 14:24 | ?
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> The chroot? The menus are the server menus...
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| 14:24 | <Jinux> yeah
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> So you need to customize the server menus, not the chroot
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| 14:24 | <Jinux> that seems silly
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> E.g. "edubuntu menus" has support for different menus per group, if that's what you're looking
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| 14:25 | Well, ltsp clients work on the server...
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| 14:25 | <Jinux> ooh that sounds what im looking for yeah
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| 14:25 | I'm just thinking, for example: I want Add/Remove Applications in the server menu but not the clients menu
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| 14:26 | so getting rid of it on the server so that it's not in the client image seems silly
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> So you can put that only for "group=admin"
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| 14:26 | <Jinux> hmmm alright.
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> Well, the client image doesn't have any menus at all
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| 14:27 | It just makes a "remote desktop" connection to the server
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| 14:27 | So you can't remove any menus from the chroot, because it doesn't have any...
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| 14:27 | <Jinux> Ooooooooooohhh
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| 14:27 | i see!!
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| 14:27 | sorry for my stupidity :P
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> Nah, LTSP does that to people the first months :D
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| 14:28 | <Jinux> btw, remember when you helped 'cluster' out the other day alkisg? That was me :P
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| 14:28 | Thanks alot for being patient :)
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> Ah, you keep changing names...
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| 14:28 | Tricky :)
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| 14:28 | <Jinux> yeah i know, sorry
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| 14:28 | different machines
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> I think you were using another one yesterday also... j* something
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| 14:29 | <Jinux> joeasaurus
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> Right, that one
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| 14:29 | <Jinux> yeah
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| 14:29 | I only just got the hang of the nickserv thing like
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| 14:29 | an hour ago :P
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> Heh
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| 14:29 | Are you using fat clients? I don't remember...
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| 14:30 | Because for fat clients things are different, the chroot indeed has menus there
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| 14:30 | <Jinux> we are atm as we're just setting up LTSP as a fun-learny type thing
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| 14:30 | but the command i use to make the chroot is
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| 14:30 | ltsp-build-client --arch i386 --ltsp-cluster --prompt-rootpass
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> OK, yeah then you need to use edubuntu-menus or sabayon or something similar
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| 14:31 | <Jinux> ill have a look at edubuntu-menus
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| 14:31 | <Jinux> sounds perfect
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| 14:31 | <Mathis> hello
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| 14:32 | <Jinux> im thinking though, will I need to set it twice over our two application servers, or is there a file i can just mirror?
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| 14:32 | <Mathis> I have installed Ubuntu 9.10 and all updates in a virtual machine and followed LTSP > Wiki > ubuntuusers.de - everything works fine so far
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| 14:32 | <alkisg> Jinux: http://www.stgraber.org/2010/02/16/say-hi-edubuntu-menu-editor
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| 14:33 | <Jinux> thanks :)
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| 14:33 | Keep an eye our - 95% chance ill be back :P
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| 14:33 | out*
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| 14:33 | <Mathis> havent found anything about how to start a ssh daemon on the clients, how do I do that?
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| 14:33 | <alkisg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/PasswordlessSSH
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| 14:34 | <Mathis> thanks
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| 14:34 | <alkisg> Mathis: there _are_ some security concerns about installing an ssh server on the clients...
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| 14:34 | <Mathis> doesnt matter, its a private network
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| 14:34 | <alkisg> OK
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| 14:34 | <Mathis> I'm using it for transcoding DVDs in a cluster
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| 14:38 | <Mathis> installing openssh-server in the LTSP chroot failed trying to restart the service
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> It shouldn't be a problem...
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| 14:40 | <Mathis> strange, when trying to log into a client, it asks me for the clients root password, but it replies "Permission denied, please try again."
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| 14:40 | does LTSP have an own root password?
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> There are no users in the ltsp chroot
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| 14:41 | There's only the root account, which is locked, if we're talking about ubuntu
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| 14:41 | <Mathis> we are
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| 14:41 | I have booted the client in another vm and a root shell is automatically logged in
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> That's why I wrote about "passwordless ssh' in that page...
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| 14:42 | That's just a shell, you can't login as root as there's no password
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| 14:42 | You can define a password if you want, though
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| 14:42 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UnlockChrootRootAcct
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| 14:43 | <Mathis> not really
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| 14:43 | but thanks
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| 14:56 | it now works fine
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| 15:11 | <Mathis> after.local script in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d seems not to be executed, is this being changed since last year?
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| 15:13 | I'd like to auto-mount an NFS exported directory on my server to every client, thats why I use after.local for mounting
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| 15:15 | <alkisg> Afaik you need to put it in an rc.d directory to get executed, not just in init.d
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| 15:16 | <Mathis> someone here told me a year ago, I have to put it in init.d, iirc
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| 15:16 | based on this and many other infos I wrote this howto: http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Transcoding
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| 15:17 | <alkisg> Did he also tell you to run update-rd.d ?
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| 15:17 | *rc.d ?
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| 15:17 | <Mathis> no
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| 15:18 | <alkisg> Try: man update-rc.d
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> Afaik an rc.d symlink is needed for the script to get executed...
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| 15:21 | <Mathis> I could also simply edit etc/rc.local
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| 15:22 | * alkisg wonders if an NFS_MOUNT lts.conf parameter would be more useful than the newly-introduced NFS_HOME... | |
| 15:22 | * Mathis too | |
| 15:23 | <alkisg> But I guess you could also use /home for that, couldn't you?
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| 15:23 | I.e. mount /server/some/dir to the client /home ?
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| 15:23 | And use it from there?
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| 15:23 | <Mathis> no, since I am using root
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| 15:24 | <alkisg> So? doesn't root have access to /home?
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| 15:24 | <Mathis> and the servers exported directory is in some servers users home dir
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| 15:24 | <alkisg> So?
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| 15:24 | <Mathis> transcode expects the data in /root/dvdrip-data
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| 15:24 | <alkisg> export server:/home/someuser/dir, mount to client:/home, and use it from there
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| 15:24 | ln -s /home /root/dvdrip-data
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| 15:25 | <Mathis> I just mount it using rc.local
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| 15:25 | <alkisg> Yeah, I'm just saying that with the latest ltsp, you don't need rc.local.
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| 15:25 | Anyway...
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| 15:26 | <Mathis> also I need to apply some specific parameters to mount.nfs
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| 15:28 | rc.local has not been executed too
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| 15:28 | ah, need to enable the script
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| 15:31 | still not being run at starttime
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| 15:31 | <abeehc> i didn't have luck
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| 15:32 | till specifying in lts.conf
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| 15:32 | RCFILE_02 = /etc/rc.local
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| 15:32 | <vagrantc> Mathis: you could also use RC_FILE_01=/path/to/your/script
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| 15:32 | in lts.conf
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| 15:33 | <abeehc> my 01 is the resolv.conf fix script thing for localapps
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| 15:33 | <Mathis> ah, thanks
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| 15:33 | <vagrantc> oops, yeah... RCFILE_XX
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| 15:34 | <alkisg> vagrantc: what's a good line for nfs /home mounting? Is `/home *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)` OK ?
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| 15:34 | <johnny> alkisg, NFS_MOUNT_01="/home" ?
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| 15:34 | <Mathis> vagrantc: do I have to supply servers full path or clients full path?
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| 15:34 | <alkisg> johnny: would we also need the server export? Or the nfs parameters? I don't know...
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| 15:35 | ...or the complete line?
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| 15:35 | E.g. maybe an "FSTAB_ENTRY=xxx" :D
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| 15:35 | <johnny> no.. if it's not mounted..
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| 15:35 | err
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| 15:35 | if it doesn't exist on the server.. it should silently fail
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| 15:35 | idon't think we should be mssing around with exports file on the server
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| 15:36 | at least until we have a more api like access to that file
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| 15:36 | <alkisg> johnny: no, I mean, maybe someone has exported /nfshome on his server, and he wants to mount _that_ as the client /home
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| 15:36 | <johnny> ah
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| 15:36 | <alkisg> So, we'd need to know 2 things - the export name, and the mount point
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| 15:36 | ...and maybe the mount params...
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| 15:36 | So maybe an FSTAB_ENTRY would be the most generic thing to have
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| 15:37 | <johnny> ah true
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| 15:37 | and we already have that option
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> We do?
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| 15:37 | <johnny> don't we?
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| 15:37 | or is it just CONFIGURE_FSTAB then?
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| 15:37 | maybe that's what i'm remembering..
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> Just that, afaik
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| 15:37 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i don't mess with writeable NFS :P
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> I don't think we have a mechanism for CONFIGURE_FSTAB=true _and_ add an additional entry there...
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| 15:38 | vagrantc: heh, ok. Sorry but it's the only way I've found so far for evolution to work on fat clients. :)
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| 15:39 | <vagrantc> Mathis: relative to the client... it's code that runs on the client.
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| 15:39 | <Mathis> thanks
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| 15:41 | interesting... I found the client:/etc/init.d/rc.local which comments that it starts the client:/etc/rc.local if it exists
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| 15:42 | so I can assume, this script is malfunctioning
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| 15:43 | <abeehc> i don't see how
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| 15:43 | the script probly works fine as is
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| 15:43 | just doesn't get executed
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| 15:43 | hence the lts.conf declaration
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| 15:43 | <Mathis> right
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| 15:44 | now it got executed
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