IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 26 December 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:00 | <arnotixe> ok I installed the LTSP server package on linux mint. But running ltsp-build-client, it complains that /opt/ltsp/i386/etc is non-existant.. Where do I get the files to put in /opt/ltsp? My understanding is they have to be built?
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| 04:35 | <vagrantc> arnotixe: no idea there's a linux mint port ... neither debian or ubuntu require anything like that to be present, so they must have forked from upstream
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| 05:07 | <arnotixe> vagrantc, well the repository is actually ubuntu's...
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| 13:11 | <Skateboss> anyone got any idea why local apps crash?
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| 13:11 | firefox etc etc
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| 13:11 | on ubuntu 11.10
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| 13:48 | <markit> hi, is it possible to have, just to experiment and deploy copying it, 2 chroots, one for thin clients (low ram) and one for fat clients, and the client boot and load using the correct one?
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| 13:48 | I know that fat image is good for thin also, but would love to have separate
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| 14:00 | <muppis> Yes. You just need to configure dhcpd to give correct name for image file.
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| 14:25 | <markit> muppis: yep, but based on what? the fat threshold is in lts.conf
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| 14:25 | dhcpd is not aware of it in that phase, right?
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| 14:39 | <muppis> markit, based on client mac you can define things for that client.
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| 14:41 | <markit> muppis: ok, not that useful in my case then
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| 14:42 | I'll change dhcpd config file at will
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| 14:43 | thanks for the clarification :)
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| 17:08 | <markit> how is /home accessed by thin or fat client? Mounted with NFS?
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| 17:16 | <shawnp0wers> markit: I believe with sshfs
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| 17:19 | <markit> shawnp0wers: so for ubuntu ltsp, nfs is useless?
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| 17:20 | I could remove entries about chroot from dhcp server as well?
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| 17:21 | in the wiki is wrote a incomplete sentence "Home directories mounted on login with sshfs unless the solution. "
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| 22:04 | <arrrghhh> hello all. i would like to make what seems like a little bit of LTSP, and a little bit of netboot...
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| 22:04 | basically i'd like to be able to boot "live" environments over the network
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| 22:05 | install linux over the network
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| 22:05 | and hopefully install windows over the network as well...
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| 22:05 | <vagrantc> no LTSP involved, there
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| 22:05 | <arrrghhh> orly
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| 22:05 | <arrrghhh> i figured the live part would be ltsp, no?
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| 22:05 | <vagrantc> ah, yes, you could do that part with LTSP
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| 22:06 | * vagrantc was thinking something more along the lines of debian-live or ubuntu-live | |
| 22:06 | <vagrantc> the "live" name biased me :)
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| 22:06 | <arrrghhh> basically i'd like to pxe boot and have a menu for memtest, ubuntu install, just running ubuntu, etc.
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| 22:06 | <alkisg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
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| 22:06 | <arrrghhh> eventually i'd like to look into provisioning windoze machines, but that looks like it's going to be quite tricky.
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| 22:06 | <vagrantc> that's pretty easy to do
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| 22:06 | <alkisg> I've put a script to netboot the ubuntu cd there
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| 22:06 | <vagrantc> (well, i don't know about the windows part, but the rest)
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| 22:07 | <arrrghhh> i've got netboot working
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| 22:07 | 1 problem with that is it requires a lot of downloading from the 'net on install
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| 22:07 | <vagrantc> set up a proxy cache of some kind
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| 22:07 | <alkisg> That's the ubuntu desktop cd, so it gets everything over lan, not internet
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| 22:07 | Not the netboot cd
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| 22:07 | <arrrghhh> Netbooting Ubuntu Live CDs, this seems perfect.
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| 22:07 | thanks alkisg
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| 22:08 | yea i don't expect the rest to be answered here. i may never get the windows part working, but it sure would be nice.
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| 22:08 | <alkisg> To netboot windows, you can use open source tools, or you can use WDS
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| 22:08 | <arrrghhh> alkisg, i'd like to just install windows over the network
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| 22:08 | no live environment needed there.
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| 22:08 | <alkisg> That's usually done with Windows Deployment Services
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| 22:08 | <arrrghhh> yea
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| 22:08 | no windows server.
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| 22:08 | <alkisg> But there are open source alternatives for that
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| 22:09 | <arrrghhh> i found this interesting project, but it's based around centos
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| 22:09 | and i couldn't adapt his guide, 1 sec
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| 22:09 | <alkisg> Now, *instead* of all that, you could use LTSP to netboot windows virtual machines over the network
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| 22:09 | <arrrghhh> http://www.ultimatedeployment.org/win7pxelinux1.html
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| 22:09 | <alkisg> That way you'd only need to maintain 1 single image
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| 22:10 | <arrrghhh> hrm, yea with windows drivers is going to be a pita huh. i was hoping to just push out installs for busted machines, only if they have a key on their laptop/desktop.
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| 22:11 | <alkisg> I think that was the RIS alternative that I had looked in the past... http://unattended.sourceforge.net/
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| 22:11 | You don't need windows drivers for VMs
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| 22:11 | <arrrghhh> true
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| 22:11 | wow this page is cool tho, thanks.
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| 22:13 | in my head this is simple, but in reality it's quite difficult.
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| 22:13 | <alkisg> How much RAM do your clients have?
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| 22:13 | <arrrghhh> i just want to throw iso's at my server and have 'em netboot...
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| 22:13 | 2gb typically
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| 22:13 | <alkisg> Sure you could use VMs then
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| 22:13 | You lose 5-10% of CPU speed, and about 128 MB RAM, but you only have to maintain 1 single image for all your clients
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| 22:14 | You serve the linux OS with ltsp, and you run windows with vbox or kvm on them
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| 22:14 | <arrrghhh> what about installs... i guess this room wouldn't really pertain to that tho
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| 22:14 | i'd like to be able to install linux and eventually windows on machines for family/friends without burning discs, just plug 'em in.
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| 22:15 | <alkisg> I told you the 2 pages I know about those questions
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| 22:15 | <arrrghhh> cool
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| 22:15 | thanks
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| 22:15 | <alkisg> I don't know anything else, and LTSP doesn't relate to that
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| 22:15 | live cd netboot for linux, and unattended.sf.net for windows
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| 22:15 | <arrrghhh> indeed
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