IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 10 December 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:40 | <alkisg> Urm. Googling for "ldm" and clicking on "images" shows some non-LTSP-related images... :D
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| 01:46 | <muppis> Funny. :D
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| 01:47 | <alkisg> Maybe we should use one of those and the default ldm background image :P
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| 02:03 | <gnunux> hi
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| 07:45 | <muppis> Two identical clients. First share USB printer fine, second doesn't.
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| 08:04 | <Seta00> so here I am again
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| 08:04 | :P
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| 08:05 | now inetd is running but neither port 9751 nor 9752 has something bound to it
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| 08:08 | <Seta00> alkisg: you there?
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| 08:08 | <alkisg> Yes?
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| 08:09 | <Seta00> inetd is running but neither port 9751 nor 9752 has something bound to it
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| 08:09 | and dhcpd won't start giving me the "no subnet for declaration" error again :P
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| 08:14 | <Seta00> I'll try booting the way it is now
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> Seta00: I'm not sure I understand your problem. Didn't you get it to boot yesterday?
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| 08:18 | And now it won't boot again?
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| 08:18 | <Seta00> yeah :(
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| 08:18 | I'm fixing it
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| 08:18 | and it was the day before yesterday
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> OK, check if your IP matches the range in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 08:19 | If you have any specific questions, shoot
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| 08:31 | <muppis> Got it. Put IP instead of mac to lts.conf
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| 08:36 | <Seta00> the client won't login
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| 08:36 | nbd_server says disconnect request received
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| 08:37 | I'm updating the image file
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| 08:37 | @ alkisg
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| 08:37 | do you know of any misconfiguration that can cause that?
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| 08:38 | what's the TCP port nbd_server uses??
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| 08:42 | <mgariepy> Seta00, 2000
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| 08:42 | <Seta00> thanks
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| 08:42 | mgariepy: I'm running dpkg-reconfigure on it, can I use any export file?
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| 08:43 | it keeps saying address already in use
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| 08:44 | <mgariepy> usualy nbd server is started by inetd
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| 08:44 | <Seta00> I'm trying ltsp-update-sshkeys now
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| 08:46 | it works :)
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| 09:06 | <bigd557> good morning
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| 09:08 | someone can give some sources for detailed informations on nbd-proxy? had no luck with my search and would like to get deeper informations
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| 09:09 | alksig ... thx again for your help the past days
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| 10:04 | <sol326> anyone tell me if LTSP does dual monitors?
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| 10:06 | <gnunux> i've dual monitors
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| 10:08 | <sol326> anything special to make it happen?
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| 10:11 | <gnunux> no, xrandr work fine
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| 10:13 | <sol326> how does ltsp compare with the 2x thinapp product?? any experience with that?
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| 11:17 | <m4xx_> how can i configure my ltsp client to use dual monitors each with a different resolution?
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| 11:26 | <Appiah> if you want to configure a specific client you can do so under lts.conf
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| 11:27 | add the mac [] and specifiy the xconfiguration needed for dualhead
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| 11:34 | <m4xx_> i'de like each client to be configureable
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| 11:34 | or is this not possible?
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| 11:35 | the problem is each client is different atm
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| 11:35 | <Appiah> you can specify each client by it's mac
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| 11:35 | in lts.conf
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| 11:35 | mac address*
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| 11:37 | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/lts.conf.5.html
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| 11:42 | <Gadi> m4xx_: you usually need only adjust X_VIRTUAL and XRANDR_OUTPUT_X and XRANDR_MODE_X options, provided the driver can do dualhead with xrandr - not all can
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| 11:42 | <indradg_> hi... i'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and having problem with the thin-clients displaying a wrong time on the login in screen... i've followed the instructions from the Ubuntu wiki (which says its for 8.04) without any avail... any clues?
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| 11:44 | <Gadi> indradg_: TIMESERVER and TIMEZONE
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| 11:44 | should be the params you need
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| 11:45 | <Appiah> lts.conf ?
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| 11:45 | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/lts.conf.5.html again!
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| 11:45 | !lts.conf
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| 11:45 | <ltspbot> Appiah: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 11:45 | <indradg_> Gadi, ok... if you could direct me to where exactly to plug them ?
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| 11:46 | <Gadi> indradg_: sure - first off, what timezone are you in?
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| 11:46 | <indradg_> Gadi, Asia/Calcutta
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| 11:47 | of +0530 GMT
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| 11:47 | <Gadi> indradg_: ok, have you created an lts.conf file?
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| 11:47 | <indradg_> or*
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| 11:47 | <indradg_> yes... only iTalc entry and a couple more entries in there atm
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| 11:47 | <Gadi> (in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf)
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| 11:48 | <indradg_> Gadi, ok... i'm with you so far
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| 11:48 | <Gadi> ok
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| 11:48 | * indradg_ is not in front of the system... so it will be more in theory rather than be able to try out | |
| 11:49 | <Gadi> you should have:
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| 11:49 | <m4xx_> i dont see XRANDR_OUTPUT_X or XRANDR_MODE_X in the docs
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| 11:49 | <Gadi> ah
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| 11:49 | indradg_: so, here's the theory: The thin client is diskless, so the only time it knows about is hardware (BIOS) time
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| 11:49 | <Appiah> m4xx_: For drivers that support XRANDR, the XRANDR_MODE_* variabled are
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| 11:49 | preferred. See the XRANDR section
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| 11:50 | <Gadi> indradg_: so, TIMESERVER and TIMEZONE allow you to have the thin client run ntpdate on boot
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| 11:50 | <Appiah> says MODE_00-09 but not MODE_X hmm
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| 11:50 | <Gadi> indradg_: of course, for it to work, the thin client must be able to access the ntp time server from the client
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| 11:50 | <indradg_> Gadi, right!
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| 11:51 | <m4xx_> ah, i'm sorry
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| 11:51 | <indradg_> I do have a local ntp server running on the server
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| 11:51 | <Gadi> indradg_: this means, either installing ntpd on the server OR using a public ntp server and setting up NAT on the server (assuming a 2-nic server setup)
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| 11:51 | <indradg_> Gadi, I've a dual nic setup
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| 11:52 | <Gadi> indradg_: for troubleshooting, do the following:
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| 11:52 | indradg_: log into ldm at the terminal
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| 11:52 | * indradg_ listening | |
| 11:52 | <Gadi> indradg_: on the server, run: ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 11:52 | indradg_: this will pop open a local xterm running on the client
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| 11:52 | <indradg_> yep
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| 11:53 | <Gadi> indradg_: inside this xterm, you can do things like ping the ntp server
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| 11:53 | indradg_: you may not be able to run ntpdate as a user
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| 11:53 | <indradg_> Gadi, yes... need to be root for that
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| 11:53 | or a sudoer user
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| 11:54 | <Gadi> indradg_: in which case, you can always create a root password in the chroot, and switch to a local console login
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| 11:54 | 1 sec - ph call
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| 11:54 | <indradg_> Gadi, sure
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| 11:56 | <vagrantc> or even still use ltsp-localapps xterm and su
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| 11:56 | <indradg_> vagrantc, cool!
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| 12:00 | <m4xx_> setting the X_VIRTUAL worked to enable the dualhead but when i try to change the resolution on the second monitor the monitor prefferences window freezes
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| 12:01 | <Gadi> indradg_: sorry - anyhow, from the local xterm you can check ntpdate. You can also run: getltscfg -a
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| 12:02 | indradg_: that will report to you the lts.conf vars that it sees from your lts.conf
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| 12:02 | <indradg_> Gadi, and check if TIMEZONE & TIMESERVER are assigned the right values
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| 12:02 | right
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| 12:02 | <Gadi> indradg_: make sure TIMESERVER and TIMEZONE are in there
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| 12:02 | <indradg_> got it
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| 12:03 | <Gadi> indradg_: aside from that, if it is not working it might be a bug - we set time in the background on boot, and sometimes really fast thin clients may get to ldm before the time is set
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| 12:03 | <indradg_> Gadi, possible... i was using an Atom 450 with 1GB ram
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| 12:04 | Gadi, thanks a bunch.. i'll go back tomorrow and have a go at it
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| 12:05 | <Gadi> indradg_: np
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| 12:06 | m4xx_: are all of the clients using the same video driver?
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| 12:06 | <m4xx_> not yet
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| 12:06 | <Gadi> m4xx_: because different drivers have different names for outputs
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| 12:06 | and so if you need to set different resolutions for each in lts.conf, you are in for a bit of work
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| 12:07 | we tried to do automagic stuff, which is why just specifying X_VIRTUAL gets you much of the way
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| 12:29 | <Gadi> m4xx_: btw, that online lts.conf manpage has an error with the XRANDR_ options
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| 12:29 | they should all have one digit - not two
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| 12:29 | XRANDR_MODE_0
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| 12:29 | not XRAMDR_MODE_01
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| 12:31 | <vagrantc> i should get that fixed before squeeze releases...
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| 12:32 | <Gadi> seems to be fixed in 10.10 on ubuntu
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| 12:32 | <vagrantc> oh, it is
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| 12:32 | there are a couple other minor updates i'd like to include
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| 12:38 | <m4xx_> i'm sorry, i was able to figure out the MODE_X and the X_VIRTUAL, but am unsure of what to enter for XRANDR_OUTPUT_X
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| 12:38 | would that be like "SCREEN 1"
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| 13:08 | <Gadi> m4xx_: what do you get when you type "xrandr" at that terminal?
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| 13:10 | <m4xx_> or perhaps VGA-0 AND DVI-0
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| 13:14 | <m4xx_> http://pastebin.ca/2015769
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| 13:16 | <Gadi> so:
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| 13:16 | XRANDR_OUTPUT_0 = "VGA-0"
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| 13:16 | XRANDR_OUTPUT_1 = "DVI-0"
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| 13:17 | XRANDR_MODE_0 = 1024x768
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| 13:17 | (would set VGA to that res)
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| 13:17 | XRANDR_MODE_1 = 1680x1050
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| 13:17 | (would set DVI to that res)
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| 13:17 | <m4xx_> ah,
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| 13:18 | no quotes for the mode ?
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| 13:18 | <Gadi> if you want to play with relative positions, you can do something like:
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| 13:18 | you can use quotes
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| 13:18 | quotes should really only be needed when the value contains a space
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| 13:18 | <Gadi> anyhow, you can also do:
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| 13:19 | <Gadi> XRANDR_MODE_1 = "DVI-0 --left-of VGA-0"
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| 13:19 | oops
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| 13:19 | I meant
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| 13:19 | XRANDR_OUTPUT_1 = "DVI-0 --left-of VGA-0"
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| 13:20 | to tell it that the DVI output should be to the left of the VGA
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| 13:21 | the annoying thing is that output names are not standard, so what may be called "DVI-0" for one driver, may be called "TDMS-1" for another
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| 13:21 | :P
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| 13:25 | <m4xx_> could you not use numbered indexes
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| 13:25 | instead of the actual name?
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| 13:26 | <Gadi> either the name of the
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| 13:26 | output or the XID.
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| 17:50 | <pmatulis> anyone know how to troubleshoot clients hanging at "Starting LTSP client....." ?
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| 20:20 | <peter_> evening all
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| 20:28 | I replaced the client-side nic on my ubuntu 10.4 lsp server; had to change the udev rule so new nic is eth1 instead of eth2. How do I restart networking?
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| 20:28 | Looks like none of the /etc/init.d/net* scripts are configured to run in the default runlevel (2).
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