IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 25 December 2018 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | * vagrantc was a little surprised to see alkisg commenting at this hour :) | |
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| 01:41 | <vagrantc> for better or worse, ltsp 5.18.12 is on it's way...
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| 03:00 | <mmarconm> good, happy christimas for all :)
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| 10:56 | <muppis-> I tried to install ltsp to Ubuntu 14.04 with nonpae kernel. I installed PPA and seems ltsp-pnp command no longer exists, so tried ltsp-update-image --cleanup / -method, but it says ltsp-cleanup is missing. Did I miss some package?
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> muppis-: I don't think I ever published ltsp in the ppa for 14.04
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| 10:57 | It was 12.04=full, 14.04=none, 16.04=little, 18.04=full
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| 10:58 | Why are you sticking to a release that will expire in a few months?
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| 10:58 | <muppis-> It's latest that I founded with nonpae kernel as hw really misses pae support.
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> Have you tried with forcepae?
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| 10:59 | <muppis-> Yes, with no luck.
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| 10:59 | <alkisg> Which cpu is it?
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| 10:59 | <muppis-> AMD Geode
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| 10:59 | LX800
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> Btw, if you're trying ltsp-pnp, you missed installing the ltsp-client package on the server
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| 11:01 | I wonder what's the situation about pae on debian
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| 11:02 | I guess though, if you only have thin clients and no fats at all, you could just run ltsp-build-client and create a thin chroot
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| 11:02 | <muppis-> In PPA there's ltsp package with version 5.5.7~r2732+p1249+201603261523~ubuntu14.04.1 ;)
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> Probably just testing; we never installed any schools with 14.04
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| 11:03 | <muppis-> Ok.
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| 11:04 | I just reinstalled whole system and running apt upgrade. It's a slow machine.
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| 11:04 | <alkisg> jessie-backports has ltsp 5.5.8
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| 11:04 | So you're using ltsp with a single client?
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| 11:06 | <muppis-> One as server and 5 as clients. Identical machines.
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| 11:06 | <alkisg> Gotcha
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| 11:07 | Better to use 18.04 on the server, and create a 14.04 chroot
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| 11:07 | This way you'll have recent firefox and all
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| 11:08 | <muppis-> Main goal is to try how Dosbox performs in these machines.
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| 11:08 | So no real use, just test and if possible to play some old dos games with kids.
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| 11:25 | To build pnp-client I need ltsp-server and ltsp-client installed on server?
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| 11:27 | <alkisg> Yes. How much ram do the clients have?
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| 11:27 | <muppis-> 1 GB
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| 11:27 | <alkisg> Oh wow, then you're planning to make them fat clients, ok
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| 11:28 | <muppis-> Well, if runs well.
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| 11:34 | <alkisg> Yeah then 14.04 or jessie, with ltsp-pnp, are the best choices
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| 12:22 | <muppis-> Now it says no aufs or overlayfs detected even both are installed.
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| 12:36 | <mmarconm> Merry christimas :)
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| 12:38 | <muppis-> mmarconm, merry christmas for you too.
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| 12:38 | I think that missing pae support is short of show stopper for now.
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| 12:38 | <mmarconm> muppis-: thanku
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| 13:42 | <muppis-> Without --cleanup starts to build the image. Seems that special build kernel doesn't have overlayfs module, so cleanup isn't possible.
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| 14:11 | <alkisg> muppis-: sudo modprobe overlay; sudo modprobe overlayfs; lsmod | grep overlay
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| 14:11 | This will tell you if overlay is supported
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| 14:17 | <muppis-> alkisg, I did that already. Whole file is missing.
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> So that kernel has no overlay and no overlayfs and no aufs modules?
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| 14:19 | LTSP needs one of those 3
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| 14:20 | <muppis-> All of those 3 are missing.
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> Get another kernel then
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| 14:20 | What's the kernel name? uname -a?
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| 14:22 | <muppis-> 3.13.0-nonpae
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> That's not really uname -a...
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| 14:31 | Anyway, get another kernel
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| 14:32 | <muppis-> It not much more. Linux nonpae 3.13.0-nonpae #2 SMP Thu Apr 24 02:35:19 BST 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
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| 14:35 | As it's a custom build kernel but not by me and I'm sure do I build proper one as being fun project anyway.
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| 14:47 | I took vanilla 12.04 non-pae installer and if I don't get working with that, I either abandon the idea or try with Windows XP.
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| 15:16 | <alkisg> You can also test with jessie
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| 15:17 | 12.04 should work fine, many schools here still use it
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| 19:03 | * alkisg will need to change the path to sch-scripts, and synchronize the change... | |
| 19:03 | <alkisg> (lts-el.conf, dnsmasq-el.conf etc)
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| 19:38 | <muppis-> Image build nicely. Need to set up real enviroment, used VirtualBox for building.
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| 20:05 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i tried to make it backwards-compatible, but i guess it doesn't quite fallback for locale-specific files
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| 20:06 | alkisg: sorry for the trouble
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| 20:27 | <alkisg> No worries, it shouldn't take more than a couple of lines
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| 20:29 | <vagrantc> i accidentally built it with the nodoc profile, which caused it to not include those files, which resulted in a non-useable ltsp-config
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| 20:30 | which, was good to see that it broke in that way, as that is a legitimate, if corner-case, build
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| 20:31 | ltsp is working much better with Debian now, so that's good
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| 20:32 | alkisg: thanks, as usual, for all your great work on it :)
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> Thank you too! Marry Christmas btw! :D
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| 21:17 | <vagrantc> Happy belated solstice!
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