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01:26 | <mwright1> Hi everyone
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01:26 | I have a muekow - Ubuntu 5 LTSP integrated cquestion
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01:26 | Does LTSP kernel extensions for ubuuntu 5 work with
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01:27 | xen kernels in the offiical ubuntu repos
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01:27 | so if the terminal server is running in a xen instance.
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02:01 | <bkudria> where can i take a look at the sysinit script for 4.2 that mounted /tmp on a ramdisk?
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10:53 | <joebob777as7> my clients can not log out unless the server is displaying login on a monitor if there is no monitor hooked up and it turns on then no log off...
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13:48 | <warren> I'm trying to repackage branch ltsp-upstream for fedora, running into a build problem
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13:49 | configure is missing, automake/autoconf don't work here
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14:03 | <warren> OK, latest problem is...
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14:03 | [builder1@newcaprica ltspfs-20071013bzr]$ ./configure
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14:03 | configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.."
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14:18 | OK, figured that out.
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14:18 | sent a patch
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14:23 | <warren> Where is the upstream source for lbussd?
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14:29 | <Q-FUNK> warren: apt-cache show lbussd
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14:30 | <warren> Q-FUNK, no apt here.
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14:30 | Q-FUNK, we're trying to finish LTSP-5 on Fedora
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14:30 | <Q-FUNK> ah
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14:31 | doesn't RPM have a mode where it will show oyu the packaging details?
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14:31 | <warren> Q-FUNK, we don't have packages
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14:31 | Q-FUNK, we're trying to find the upstream source of LTSP-5
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14:31 | Q-FUNK, but annoyingly (like many other Ubuntu things) there is no upstream tarballs for most of this
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14:32 | in the case of libussd we can't find an upstream source control repository either.
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14:32 | <Q-FUNK> it tends to go straight into debian and ubuntu these days, true
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14:32 | <warren> Quite frankly, we (Red Hat) bend over backwards to be friendly to other distros in making proper upstream versioned tarball releases of everything.
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14:33 | But we don't have that courtesy from Ubuntu.
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14:33 | <Q-FUNK> things tend be packaged after releases are out the door
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14:34 | e.g. new stuff that went into Gutsy will end up packaged sometimes within the next couple of months
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14:35 | release management tends to be less formal than at RH for that
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14:35 | <warren> It would be nice if a proper "upstream" could be made more apparent here.
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14:35 | It wouldn't be difficult to script it
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14:36 | just push new matching tarballs
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14:36 | anyway, ltspfs is not a high priority yet. I can wait.
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14:36 | <Q-FUNK> if you got via packages.ubuntu.com you can search the archive on a per-file basis for content
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14:36 | <warren> posted to the mailing list asking for clarfication
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14:37 | Q-FUNK, if LTSP is truly an upstream project, we shouldn't have to be digging around sources of other distros to get the latest source.
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14:37 | <Q-FUNK> it should tell you which ubuntu package provides what binary and, form ther,e you can access the tarball
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14:39 | it isn't and that is simply because of lack of interest from other distros until recently
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14:40 | ubuntu simply is the primary distro that develops LTSP nowadays. in a lot of way, they picked up where upstream left and brought it to the next stage
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14:41 | <warren> OK, we'll work with what exists and build up from here.
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14:42 | We have an interest in clarifying the "upstream" center stuff
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14:43 | <sepski> im not too sure, but i dont think there is a defined upstream, all the developers pull eatchother patches from the various bzr repos listed at http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Devel
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14:44 | <warren> sepski, ah, thanks.
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14:46 | sepski, hmm, having trouble finding where to bzr pull from
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14:48 | <sepski> the paragraph in the bottom gives me the idea that pkg-ltsp is the most upstreamish, but i think they pull patches in ziggzagg all the time.
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14:56 | <warren> hmm, the ltsp list on sourceforge seems to be broken
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14:56 | does upstream discuss anything there?
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14:57 | <Q-FUNK> good question
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14:57 | I only tend to notice the discussion taking place here
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21:10 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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21:10 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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21:10 | Hey jammcq
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