IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 17 April 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:52 | <gdi2k> hi all. I'm using LTSP in a small call center-type environment. I have linphone installed as a local app on the machines, but we're constantly having audio troubles - linphone no longer seems to output (or input) to pulse. Usually restarting the client solves it, but it's a common occurrence so I would like to diagnose what is going wrong so I can resolve it. Not really sure where to start though, all the sound documentation is still from 4.2. Any pointers?
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| 08:54 | <alkisg> Try SOUND=False in lts.conf, to disable pulse
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| 08:54 | <gdi2k> ah, so local sound will still work?
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> Alsa will still work
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| 08:55 | <gdi2k> ok thanks for that, I will give that a shot
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| 08:55 | but it means that regular non-local apps will no longer have sound right?
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| 09:13 | <alkisg> Right
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| 13:27 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 13:32 | <mgariepy> good morning sbalneav
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| 13:33 | how is it in the middle of Canada ?
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| 13:40 | <sbalneav> Still winter :(
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| 13:46 | <highvoltage> morning sbalneav
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| 13:50 | <jammcq> sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 14:01 | <highvoltage> scotteah!
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| 14:57 | <Enslaver> morning all
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| 15:09 | <Hyperbyte> Hi!
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| 15:19 | <Enslaver> I've been playing a lot with VirtualGL, It might be the answer to running XDMCP with 3D xorg extensions which would allow for newer 3d desktops over thin clients
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| 15:21 | <Enslaver> I kinda have a working model going, the issue is that it needs its own LD_LIBRARY module loaded before any app is run
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| 15:21 | That and by nature it's very insecure, but they have ways of using ssh encryption to tunnel their VDL protocol
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| 15:53 | <ltspuser_49> hello all, looking for some help with failed thin client boot after kernel upgrade. Message I get is "no init found. Try passing init=boot arg."
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| 15:54 | pxelinux.cfg wasn't changed it reads "append ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash nbdport=2000"
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| 15:54 | and I have a readable initrd.img
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| 15:55 | I downloaded and installed a 3.1.x kernel in my chroot
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| 15:55 | I am running Ubuntu Lucid with the same kernel
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| 15:55 | 3.1.4-030104-generic
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| 16:02 | <john_s> dropped off there for a moment. Any pointers? I see lots of folks talking about this in the context of a standard linux install, haven't tracked this down for the ltsp version of this badness
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| 16:04 | <john_s> I guess one more piece of info would be the thin client reports "loading vmlinuz" then goes on to say "loading initrd.img" then reports ready, and dumps to busybox with the "no init found message"
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| 16:09 | hm..
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| 16:12 | <[GuS]> Hi Guys, I've having problems installing kicktoo in gentoo (0.4.5) It seems that the source URI from the ebuild does not exist. Now, from what i look at the gitub site, the src link points to github.com/r1k0/kicktoo/archive/master.zip while in the ebuild to https://github.com/r1k0/kicktoo/archive/v0.4.5.tar.gz which does not exist.
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| 16:12 | knipwim: any idea?
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| 16:12 | <[GuS]> tried to replace with https://github.com/r1k0/kicktoo/archive/master.zip but the package does not install correctly.
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| 16:23 | <john_s> here's a variation on my question: is there any obvious reason why I couln't update my thin client kernel from 2.6x to 3.1.x and have it work?
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| 17:56 | <unkmar> what does it mean? Re-exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon...exportfs: No options for /opt/ltsp : suggest (sync) to avoid warning
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| 17:57 | nevermind
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| 18:10 | <unkmar> I don't understand
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| 18:11 | I'm on debian. I installed tfptd-hpa and ltsp.
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| 18:11 | I've been poking around the configuration jsut lonsd.a.d
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| 18:11 | jusdt
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| 18:11 | jsut
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| 18:11 | just long enough that my brain is wanting to shutdown proper communication.
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| 18:12 | debian puts tftp at /srv/tftp
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| 18:13 | ltsp creates a /opt/ltsp/ directory of things.
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| 18:13 | <unkmar> I don't know HOW I'm suppose to configure it. Sure, I can wast. I'm ready to just clock out and go home and go to sleep.
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| 18:14 | I can see by looking at the example pxelinux.cfg/default that it just isn't going to work as configured. so... I'm lost.
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| 18:16 | I can see by looking at the example pxelinux.cfg/default that it just isn't going to work as configured. so... I'm lost.54t'
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| 18:16 | <unkmar> I can't use standalone because pfsense box is dhcp server'
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| 18:16 | okay, this is as bad as the #zorinos and they only had 3 people there.
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| 21:05 | <kev_j> vagrantc: I am using your rpi-howto text to set up my rpi, but I don't quite understand the section about mounting the firmware partition... I don't know if I know how to do that or what exactly it is telling me to do
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| 21:08 | vagrantc: to be clear it is the one, on what I assume is your page, at http://cascadia.debian.net/~vagrant/rpi-howto.txt
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| 21:30 | <vagrantc> kev_j: that is poorly documented, yes.
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| 21:30 | kev_j: essentially, the first partition of the SD card from an image that the rpi foundation puts out.
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| 21:35 | <kev_j> vagrantc: I thought it was pretty good, and I am ecstatic that you put it together, but that part confused me obviously..
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| 21:36 | vagrantc: but do I need to mount the image for that? or boot the system? or not boot until the next section of it that says "running rpi as an ltsp client off the raspbian image"?
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| 21:37 | <vagrantc> kev_j: those are just notes to myself that i intend to flesh out further, i don't have the time to look at it right now
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| 21:37 | kev_j: it is, however, two different sets of instructions
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| 21:38 | kev_j: one is for booting the rpi as a thin client, the other is to create a sort of fake thin client by modifying the rpi foundation image to include the ltsp packages.
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| 21:39 | <kev_j> vagrantc: ok, I will try to figure it out myself then. thanks for getting back to me though, I know that you're prolly busy ....oh, ok I think I understand now
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| 21:39 | vagrantc: thanks as always! I think the rest is pretty straight-forward
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| 21:40 | <vagrantc> hope to have time to update it by the end of the month
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| 21:43 | <kev_j> did gbaman ever work out the fat client pi to a usable (not horrendously slow) point?
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| 21:45 | <vagrantc> i found it to be pretty slow
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| 21:45 | i'm going to try a cubieboard ... think that would be more viable as a fatclient and definitely as a thin client
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| 21:46 | <kev_j> do you think it will get any better when they hash out the xorg driver?
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| 21:47 | <vagrantc> on the rpi?
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| 21:47 | <kev_j> yeah
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| 21:47 | <vagrantc> it's going to be hard, being that it requires proprietary firmware...
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| 21:48 | or more importantly, closed-source firmware
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| 21:49 | <kev_j> is that that much different than ati/fglrx? (I'm actually asking, not arguing or anything, because I have no idea)
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| 21:50 | <vagrantc> a little worse, in that the GPU is closely tied with the rest of the rpi
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| 21:53 | <kev_j> right.. well maybe someday.. until then I still like it for a xbmc tv type thing
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| 21:53 | thanks again for the help, and answering my questions
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| 21:53 | <vagrantc> i daresay the rpi unfortunatelly started out with obsolete hardware ...
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| 21:54 | better off with one of the slightly more expensive alternatives that's a little more current
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