IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 27 April 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:53 | <alkisg> vagrantc: heya
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| 04:53 | https://github.com/NetworkBlockDevice/nbd/issues/47
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| 04:53 | Do we want to include that for stretch?
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| 04:54 | <vagrantc> alkisg: remind me again tomorrow or over email or something :)
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| 04:54 | <alkisg> :D
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| 04:55 | np! Good night!
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| 08:18 | <pkunty> hi
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| 08:18 | what is hardware requirement for LTSP server?
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| 08:18 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 08:19 | It depends on if you'll be having thin or fat clients, and how many
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| 08:19 | <pkunty> fat client 25
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> Then any recent pc will do
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| 08:19 | Gigabit networking and 4 gb ram
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| 08:19 | <pkunty> 1gb is enough?
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| 08:20 | <alkisg> RAM?
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| 08:20 | Or net?
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| 08:20 | <pkunty> network
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| 08:20 | processor?
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| 08:20 | <alkisg> Yes, for 25 clients it's enough
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| 08:20 | Any recent processor will do, even atoms
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| 08:20 | <pkunty> ok
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| 08:20 | <alkisg> It would be better if it supports encryption for faster ssh
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| 08:20 | aes
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| 08:21 | <pkunty> i have configure below server
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| 08:21 | <alkisg> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES_instruction_set
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| 08:21 | <pkunty> Ltsp with 8gb RAM, 4core processor (configured on esxi vmware)
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| 08:21 | it was working perfectly fine with 15 fat machine
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| 08:22 | now 10 machine added today
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| 08:22 | and performace is decresed
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| 08:22 | how to check
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| 08:22 | i check ram usage
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| 08:22 | it was 7.5 gb
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| 08:25 | <alkisg> And which process was taking up the RAM?
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| 08:25 | htop, ps faux etc will help
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| 08:29 | <pkunty> ok will check and get back to you
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| 08:29 | can i get ur email id to continue on this
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| 08:30 | thanks for guidance
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| 08:32 | <alkisg> pkunty: if it's paid work, then yes; if it's free work, then here in the channel is fine
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| 15:19 | <ZAJDAN> right now I tried lock ThinClient from Epoptes...station has been locked, but is not possible to unlock :_(
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| 15:21 | Debian 8(32bit)_Mate
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| 16:31 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: update your epoptes-client to 0.5.10
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| 16:32 | <ZAJDAN> I have latest version
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| 16:33 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: can I see?
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| 16:33 | !vnc-edide
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| 16:33 | <ltsp> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 16:33 | <ZAJDAN> moment
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| 16:40 | <alkisg> bb in 20'...
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| 16:51 | <gehidore> 20 feet how's that convert to time?
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| 17:08 | <ZAJDAN> alkisg: ok...I am ready
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| 17:16 | <alkisg> gehidore: I don't know about your area, but here, ' is minutes and " is seconds :)
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| 17:16 | ZAJDAN: ok, vnc then...
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| 17:16 | <ZAJDAN> host please?
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| 17:17 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: read above ^
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| 17:17 | What the bot ltsp wrote, when I invoked it
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| 17:17 | <ZAJDAN> sorry
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| 17:18 | <gehidore> alkisg
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| 17:18 | because we refuse to use civilized units ' is feet " is inches
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| 17:18 | not sure why that came out on two lines
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| 17:18 | <alkisg> gehidore: we may split to #ltsp-si and #ltsp if you prefer :P
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| 17:19 | <gehidore> haha
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| 17:19 | <alkisg> Although when using ' in google, it prompts about minutes, I don't see anything about feet there...
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| 17:19 | <alkisg> I've seen the " = inches notation though in the past
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| 17:21 | <gehidore> it's probably localized for Google as well
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> Possibly, yeah
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| 17:21 | ZAJDAN: I haven't received any connection yet...
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| 17:21 | Neither in 20 feet nor in 20 minutes...
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| 17:22 | <alkisg> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_(symbol) => Thus, 3′ 5″ could mean 3 feet and 5 inches (of length) or 3 minutes and 5 seconds (of time).
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| 17:23 | ZAJDAN: see, as I said, you have an old epoptes-client there
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| 17:24 | You have 0.5.7, and you need 0.5.10
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| 17:24 | <ZAJDAN> I updated server to 5.10 and then ltsp-image update
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| 17:24 | it is not enough?
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> It should be, if you did it correctly...
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| 17:25 | No, on the server you still have 0.5.7
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| 17:25 | You need to enable backports and install 0.5.10
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| 17:25 | That's the server
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| 17:25 | You need the client too
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| 17:26 | You have epoptes 0.5.10 and epoptes-client 0.5.7
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| 17:26 | <ZAJDAN> now I do not understand...running session display 5.10.0
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| 17:27 | <alkisg> You need epoptes-client 0.5.10
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| 17:27 | <ZAJDAN> aha
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| 17:27 | <alkisg> See the list of the packages in your screen
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| 17:27 | You have epoptes 0.5.10 from backports
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| 17:27 | And epoptes-client 0.5.7 because you didn't use backports there
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| 17:28 | <ZAJDAN> will I find it as a package?
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| 17:29 | <alkisg> Yes, the same way as you found epoptes
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| 17:29 | <ZAJDAN> I see
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| 17:45 | ok...after update image I will reboot clients
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| 17:51 | alkisg: SUPER! now lock/unlock works...thnx!
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| 17:51 | <alkisg> np
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| 17:53 | <ZAJDAN> did You see?
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| 17:54 | in Bulk I locked all stations and I cannot unlock
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| 17:55 | <alkisg> No, I stopped watching vnc exactly when I told you that you had 0.5.7... :)
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| 17:55 | <ZAJDAN> could you connect back?
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| 18:02 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: can you reboot both the server and the clients?
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| 18:03 | <ZAJDAN> yes
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| 18:03 | <alkisg> You may have something old there still running...
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| 18:03 | OK
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| 18:19 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: put the password of operator-1 there..
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| 18:40 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: I think your version of x11-utils has bugs
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| 18:40 | <ZAJDAN> :(
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| 18:40 | <alkisg> ...like this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11-utils/+bug/1463663
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| 18:40 | And you either need the backported version, or a customized xprop call in epoptes that wouldn't use unicode xprops
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| 18:41 | ...although I don't see a backported version for jessie...
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| 18:42 | <ZAJDAN> :(
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| 18:43 | seems, that I will be without the function lock/unlock
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| 18:45 | this is the paradox --- debian should be the iron mother(all stable)
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| 18:46 | <alkisg> If the developer of a software uses ubuntu, then it's more stable in ubuntu
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| 18:46 | If he uses fedora, then fedora etc
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| 18:47 | So no, what you say about debian isn't neccesserily true :)
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| 18:47 | <ZAJDAN> yes but Debian is the source for the derivates which are based on debian
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| 18:47 | <alkisg> That's the bad thing about distributions, they make things less stable because there are too many
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| 18:48 | So? I'm a developer, I'm using Ubuntu, so my software is more stable on Ubuntu; I don't test on Debian at all... :)
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| 18:48 | <ZAJDAN> Debian should be care as the best is possible because is 'Mother'
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| 18:48 | <alkisg> (actually I am, but that's not the point of the chat :))
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| 18:48 | No, it's just one distro
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| 18:48 | <ZAJDAN> because Ubuntu depends on Debian
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| 18:48 | <alkisg> Software may even target fedora or windows
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| 18:48 | Distros are not important
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| 18:49 | <ZAJDAN> No debian = no Ubuntu
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| 18:49 | <alkisg> Software is more important
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| 18:50 | <ZAJDAN> so I will wait if something magic happened in the future, but so far I have to survive without the nice function Lock/Unlock
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| 18:51 | <alkisg> It should work in stretch, afaik...
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| 18:51 | <ZAJDAN> shame because I like it ...a lot
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| 18:52 | I will try next virtual machine with stretch, but there was some problem with remmina vs freerdp what I remember
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| 18:52 | may I disconnect the machine where You was connected?
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| 18:52 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 18:53 | <ZAJDAN> ok...and big thank for Your time!!!
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| 18:57 | if you will remember, please ask vagrant if the lock/unlock is functional in stretch
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