IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 29 December 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:02 | <ltspuser_88> Hello
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| 07:02 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 07:02 | !localdev
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| 07:02 | <ltsp> localdev: (#1) Information regarding using pluggable devices and cdroms with LTSP can be found at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev, or (#2) for ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices, or (#3) for debian-edu: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/LocalDeviceLtspfs, or (#4) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
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| 07:02 | <alkisg> !forget localdev #1
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| 07:02 | <ltsp> Error: There is no such factoid.
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| 07:02 | <ltspuser_88> I am going to setup ltsp and i need your help
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| 07:02 | <alkisg> !forget localdev 1
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| 07:02 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 07:03 | <ltspuser_88> there?
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| 07:03 | <alkisg> ltspuser_88: go ahead and ask what you want, don't mind me, I'm just doing some bot maintainance
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| 07:04 | <ltspuser_88> Okay thanks...in my ltsp client I have only led monitor ...to connect keyboard,mouse and internet wire what should i use ?
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| 07:06 | <alkisg> ...a computer? I didn't understand the question
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| 07:07 | <ltspuser_88> Now i can see in your website disklessworkstation that we need a linux based thin client device
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| 07:08 | <alkisg> ltspuser_88: LTSP is a project, disklessworkstations.com is a company - they're not the same thing
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| 07:08 | Almost ALL people here DON'T work for disklessworkstations
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| 07:09 | <ltspuser_88> Okay sorry...I have one local thin client device NC600 ,I want to know if it will work with ubuntu+ltsp
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| 07:09 | NC600(company name ncom)
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| 07:10 | <alkisg> I don't see why it wouldn't, it should work fine
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| 07:10 | Any desktop PC can also work as a thin client
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| 07:11 | <ltspuser_88> Okay
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| 07:11 | I will work on it now thank you
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| 07:39 | <alkisg> !umount
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| 07:39 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'umount', but I do know about these similar topics: 'ubuntu'
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| 07:39 | <alkisg> !unmount
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| 07:39 | <ltsp> Error: "unmount" is not a valid command.
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| 08:13 | <knipwim> alkisg: i was looking at the help2man thing
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| 08:13 | i'm not really sure, but the best thing would probably be to integrate that in a makefile
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| 08:13 | i guess
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| 08:23 | <alkisg> knipwim: it sounds good to me, but I don't have much experience with makefiles...
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| 08:24 | A makefile could even generate localized help pages, if available
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| 08:26 | <knipwim> yes, if the tools are localized, the makefile should support that
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| 09:06 | on ubuntu, the manpages also go in /usr/share/man ?
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| 09:07 | make sets them in /usr/local/share/man by default
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| 09:21 | <alkisg> knipwim: they _only_ go in /usr/share/man
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| 09:21 | <knipwim> hmm, must be some configure setting then
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| 09:21 | <alkisg> I think there are some ways to tell `make` that you want /usr/local instead of /usr/
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| 09:21 | Right, ./configure --prefix something maybe
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| 09:21 | <knipwim> it's my first time doing makefiles as well
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| 09:22 | was looking at the version string now
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| 09:22 | and whether to have --version options for each tool, or setting the version in the makefile from release.conf
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| 09:23 | <alkisg> I think the latter
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| 09:23 | help2man supports a --version parameter, I didn't know that when I filed the bug report about help2man
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| 09:23 | <knipwim> help2man -o ltsp-info.1 --version-string="5.4.4" ltsp-info works
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| 09:52 | <alkisg> Hmm cups doesn't seem to like "ServerName server" in /etc/cups/client.conf, it needs an IP there to work
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| 09:52 | So printing from fat clients and from localapps seems to currently be broken, unless someone defines CUPS_SERVER=ip
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| 09:53 | Ah, and probably that part broke when we fixed the ssh keys by setting LDM_SERVER=server instead of ip
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| 10:08 | <alkisg> Although `man client.conf` says that ServerName can be a hostname, so it should be working...
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| 10:08 | * alkisg googles for cups bugs... | |
| 10:09 | <alkisg> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525910
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| 10:11 | <alkisg> Eh
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| 10:11 | <alkisg> Fun... if the LTSP server is actually named "server", then it works! :D
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| 10:12 | The error does show up in the server /var/log/cups/error_log as well: E [29/Dec/2012:12:11:59 +0200] Request from "192.168.67.243" using invalid Host: field "server"
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| 12:13 | <alkisg> fany: γράψε /j #ts.sch.gr
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| 12:32 | <knipwim> nice, i got the version from release.conf
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| 17:19 | <markit> alkisg: btw, I've tried gnome fallback and unity... unity seems to work fine, did you "dropped" because of it's strange interface or for performances/other problems? And how can I set lts.conf to use gnome shell instead? (just curious to see how it is)
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| 17:24 | btw, in syslog I see Can't open authorization file /etc/ltsp/nbd-server.allow (No such file or directory). hope is not a problem
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| 17:43 | <alkisg> Unity, where? In thin or fat clients?
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| 17:44 | !gnome-shell
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| 17:44 | <ltsp> gnome-shell: To select gnome-shell as your default session, put this line in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome"
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| 17:48 | * alkisg is trying to find some workaround for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1078679 ... | |
| 18:00 | <alkisg> markit: canonical had dropped support for unity-2d so we didn't want to rely on it
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| 18:00 | Unfortunately, gnome dropped support for fallback a bit later
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| 18:00 | But in any case, unity does seem extremely buggy + unusable from a HCU prespective...
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| 18:08 | <knipwim> alkisg: should i put the current man page "author" part in the scripts also?
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| 18:18 | or else each package has its own include
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| 18:21 | <alkisg> knipwim: I don't think the manpages need a separate author if they're autogenerated
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| 18:22 | <alkisg> We can either put some stock text there, "copyright the ltsp authors", or omit it completely
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| 18:22 | Or even "autogenerated from the script source code with help2man etc etc"
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| 19:19 | <markit> how can I know what kind of gnome session I'm in? looks the same than fallback
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