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Channel log from 16 July 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:02 | <kgoetz> cyberorg: thanks.
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| 00:02 | i dont need them, i'm just after a mail client
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| 00:03 | <cyberorg> kgoetz, then just ssh -X user@serverip mailclientcommand
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| 02:04 | <Pascal_1> bonjour
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| 07:55 | <coolio> anyone have answer for xserver-xorg-video- and -geode issues
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| 08:02 | <ogra> coolio, there arent any anymore ?
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| 08:03 | (at least with ubuntu 8.04.1)
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| 09:16 | <cdealer> Hi ... whats needed to a printer connect to the client to be available for clients to print? LTSP5 on Ubuntu 7.04
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| 09:21 | <Blinny> I'd like to discuss the possibility of mounting an NFS share post-login. I really think this is something that would help others as well as me, especially in geographically distributed server environments.
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| 09:21 | <cdealer> I thought I saw sometime something lke PRINTER_01 = protocol (usb, serial, paralel)
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| 09:22 | <Blinny> Gadi wrote that process-killing script that runs just post-LDM - would some other script in there execute at a proper time? Especially if the user's home directory were NFS mounted _over_ a current, local directory?
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| 09:22 | I imagine one would need the LDM_PASSWORD variable somewhere to complete the NFS mount.
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| 09:23 | cdealer: Is this for LTSP5? I have a local printer that uses PRINTER_0_TYPE = U (for usb)
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| 09:23 | <cdealer> Blinny, only this line will make the printer available ?
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| 09:24 | <Blinny> cdealer: I also use "PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0" and "MODULE_01 = usblp"
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| 09:24 | (this is a client-specific setting)
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| 09:24 | <cdealer> Blinny, yeah, I was going to ask how ltsp knows where the printer were connected... now you answered... thanks
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| 09:25 | <Blinny> cdealer: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/customizing-thin-client.html has some good info about this, though it is somewhat outdated.
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| 09:25 | <cdealer> Blinny, My printer in this case is lp0 ...
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| 09:29 | <cdealer> Blinny, I must user PRINTER_0_DEVICE and MODULE_01 ?
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| 09:32 | <Blinny> cdealer: It may be loaded automatically; try it with and without. For my setup, I got the MODULE_01 line from here: http://www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Printers#USB_Printer
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| 09:32 | cdealer: I would guess that it is not required.
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| 09:33 | <cdealer> Blinny, ltsp-update-image after change the file and then you add in you cups the printer ?
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| 09:34 | <Blinny> cdealer: Only ltsp-update-image if you're editing under the image tree (usually /opt/ltsp/${ARCH})
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| 09:34 | cdealer: If you're editing the new default location (/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/${ARCH} then you don't need to re-roll the image.
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| 09:35 | <cdealer> Blinny, yeah, its on /var ...
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| 09:35 | <Blinny> cdealer: But yes, then you add the printer via CUPS. It will be treated like an hp jetdirect printer on port 9100.
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| 09:35 | cdealer: Then just reboot the client!
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| 09:35 | <cdealer> okay dude, thank you very much =)
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| 09:35 | <Blinny> cdealer: The lts.conf locationw as changed so you don't have to update the image every time you make a change there.
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| 09:36 | cdealer: You're welcome. :)
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| 09:58 | <rootchick> hi everybody--did anyone here see my question on the mailing list yesterday about refreshing accounts with ldm? i could really use some pointers!
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| 09:59 | <Blinny> rootchick: Please just ask again
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| 10:00 | <rootchick> ok. in 4.2, i used some custom scripting in Xreset (with kdm) to delete & recreate the user's home directories on logout/login. there isn't an xreset script with ldm, so i'm trying to figure out how to do it.
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| 10:01 | i could use kdm with ltsp5, but I like how ldm handles autologin, so i'd rather use it.
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| 10:03 | <Blinny> rootchick: There is an ldm rc.d directory, into which you can drop scripts to be run at login time. Not sure about logout but I'm sure there's a way.
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| 10:03 | <vagrantc> logout's tricker, as the ssh connection is broken by the time they are run
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| 10:03 | <rootchick> yeah, but that just executes on reboot, doesn't it?
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| 10:04 | <Blinny> rootchick: Check out LTSPROOT/usr/lib/ldm/rc.d/ -- Gadi recently posted a process-killing script to the ltsp-discuss mailing list if you're looking for examples
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| 10:04 | <vagrantc> rootchick: look at the scripts in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d
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| 10:04 | <rootchick> i'm not using the ssh connection anyway
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| 10:04 | <Blinny> Oh yeah. Or, depending on distro, LTSPROOT/usr/share/ldm/rc.d
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| 10:04 | <vagrantc> rootchick: if you're using ldm, you're still establishing an ssh connection, even with LDM_DIRECTX
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| 10:05 | <rootchick> i have looked at those, and tinkered with screen scripts too, but they seem to execute in the chroot instead of on the server's filesystem
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| 10:05 | <vagrantc> rootchick: but scripts in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/*/ldm/rc.d/S* are executed at login time.
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| 10:05 | <rootchick> at least, i haven't had any luck yet.
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| 10:05 | ok
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| 10:05 | <vagrantc> rootchick: correct.
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| 10:05 | rootchick: they execute on the client, and you can use the established ssh tunnel to execute something on the server.
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| 10:06 | <rootchick> how do I tunnel it?
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| 10:06 | <vagrantc> rootchick: look at the localdev example
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| 10:06 | <rootchick> ok, thanks.
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| 10:07 | <vagrantc> sorry, S10-delayed-mounter
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| 10:08 | <rootchick> excellent, I will give it a shot. thanks, vagrantc!
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| 10:08 | <Blinny> vagrantc: Wait. What is the different between ...usr/share/ldm and ...usr/lib/ldm ?
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| 10:08 | <vagrantc> of course
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| 10:09 | Blinny: just depends on what version you're using ... /usr/share/ldm is where it goes in the current and future versions.
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| 10:09 | <Blinny> vagrantc: Hrm. I have both on my Hardy box.
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| 10:10 | I wonder why Gadi dropped that process killing script into /usr/lib/ldm/ then
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| 10:10 | <vagrantc> he's probably still developing on gutsy
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| 10:10 | it likely supports themin both locations
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| 10:10 | <Blinny> But both are supported? Yeah.
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| 10:11 | <Blinny> vagrantc: You see my lines re: NFS mounting at ~$user at login? Any idea as to the feasibility?
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| 10:11 | <vagrantc> Blinny: missed them ...
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| 10:13 | <ltsppbot> "Blinny" pasted "NFS mounting of /home/$user at LDM login" (3 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/28
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| 10:14 | <Blinny> Basically, I have servers in different cities, but users who log in at both sites. I'd like to NFS mount /home/$user at login for users who are not at the location of the main fileserver.
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| 10:15 | I have lofty ideas of dispersing /home/$user to the servers where the users most often work, and then, when they're not in their usual location, NFS mounting back to _their_ home location's fileserver, but that's somewhat more complicated.
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| 10:20 | <vagrantc> Blinny: well, as long as the user has permission to mount their home directory via ssh, you can run wahtever you want through the ssh tunnel via rc.d/S* scripts
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| 10:20 | s, directory via ssh, directory,
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| 10:23 | <Blinny> vagrantc: I'm more worried about the timing of such a mount, as I'm unfamiliar with the intricacies of the LDM-to-full-session conversation
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| 10:25 | vagrantc: I assume you'd need a /home/$USER already on whatever login server you have, so that SSH would work. But could you then mountover that directory with the remote NFS one without messing up any lock/run/whatever files that were in the original, local /home/$USER ?
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| 10:25 | <vagrantc> Blinny: yes, you might have strange behavior with some lingering processes using filehandles from the mounted-over homedirectory
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| 10:26 | Blinny: but play around with it and see :)
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| 10:26 | <Blinny> vagrantc: Heh.
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| 10:27 | vagrantc: Ok! Don't suppose you've heard of anyone else asking for such a thing have you? I don't know how easy it'd be to abstract this functionality away from my environment.
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| 10:29 | <vagrantc> a little bit, sure.
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| 10:41 | <warren> hm
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| 10:41 | I used bzr rm filename but didn't commit yet.
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| 10:41 | how do I undo this?
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| 10:42 | <vagrantc> bzr revert filename
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| 11:40 | <nathy_> hello. I access to the tftp server over a vpn connection. but unfortunately there are always paket fragmentation. Now I tried to set the blocksize of the tftp server to 1200. This I could do in the file /etc/default/ltsp-hpa. And then it was working. But now I deleted all on my computer an reinstalled all. Unfortunately now it doesn't work again. Can you please help me?
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| 11:40 | This is the output from the file: RUN_DAEMON="yes" OPTIONS="-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot -B 1200"
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| 11:41 | <vagrantc> nathy_: /etc/default/tftpd-hpa ?
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| 11:42 | <nathy_> yes.
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| 11:44 | is this wrong?
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| 11:45 | <vagrantc> no idea...
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| 11:45 | <nathy_> sorry I worte ltsp-hpa. of course it is tftpd-hpa
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| 11:46 | should I use RUN_DEAMON yes or no?
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| 11:50 | <vagrantc> typically, it's run from inetd, so no.
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| 11:51 | but then it will only respect the settings in /etc/inetd.conf
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| 11:51 | so your -B 1200 would need to be set in inetd.conf
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| 11:51 | presuming that's what you actually need.
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| 11:52 | grep ^tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 11:52 | to see if it's configured to run from inetd
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| 11:54 | <nathy_> I did grep ^tftp /etc/inetd.conf output: tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot -B 512
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| 11:55 | the -B 512 I put in just now
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| 11:57 | <vagrantc> restart your inetd ... probably openbsd-inetd if running debian or ubuntu'
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| 11:57 | <nathy_> restart the server?
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| 11:58 | <vagrantc> invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart
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| 11:58 | as root
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| 11:58 | <nathy_> donw
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| 11:58 | done
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| 11:58 | great. it is working
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| 11:58 | thanks a lot
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| 11:59 | so it only looking for the config in inetd?
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| 11:59 | <vagrantc> that is how you have it configured.
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| 12:00 | if you want it configured differently, you'll need to disable it from inetd, edit /etc/default/tftpd-hpa, and restart both tftpd-hpa and openbsd-inetd
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| 12:00 | but i'd recommend sticking with inetd.
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| 12:13 | <nathy_> now it is working. I don't change it.
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| 12:15 | <nathy_> is there also a possibility to configure the image for the client, that it's mtu from eth0 is 1200 and not 1500
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| 12:25 | <warren> grr, there is still a race condition in building getltscfg
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| 12:28 | oh, nm
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| 12:28 | <nathy_> sorry I didn't understand
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| 12:33 | <nathy_> where can I config the image for the clients?
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| 12:43 | <jammcq> hello all
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| 12:54 | <vagrantc> nathy_: sorry, can't help you.
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| 12:56 | <nathy_> no problem.
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| 12:56 | does somebody know, how to configure the image for the client?
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| 13:00 | <vagrantc> nathy_: "configure the image" is a bit vague...
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| 13:00 | nathy_: try to be more specific
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| 13:58 | <acp_> hi,I followed the UbuntuLTSPLTSPQuickInstall, but I think i missing a config may be some one can enlighten me, when u try to connect my workstation i get "disk boot failure,insert system disk and press enter" my lan support pxe its lan is built in to the mother board. would i just have to config /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf on my server?
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| 13:59 | <acp_> or is there other config file I haven't look in to?
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| 14:00 | <stgraber> did you see your client getting an IP from the DHCP server ?
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| 14:13 | <acp_> no I dont see my client getting an IP, my bios is Phoenix what i did I just select Network for the first boot Device from the advance bios features
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| 14:14 | I should be seeing pxe++++++++ some thing like this right when its trying to get a ip
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| 14:15 | <stgraber> yeah
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| 14:15 | <acp_> mm
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| 14:16 | <stgraber> you may try downloading the gpxe cd-rom and use it for testing to make everything works fine, then try again with BIOS
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| 14:16 | <acp_> k, tnx
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| 14:27 | <Pascal_1> acp i had this problem
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| 14:28 | you had to upgrade pxelinux
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| 14:28 | the problem was with some new pc
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| 14:29 | but you have to upgrade with this version http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/Testing/syslinux-3.71-pre4.tar.gz. it works for me
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| 14:30 | the 3.70 didnt works for me
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| 14:30 | <acp_> thanks Pascal_1 I will look in to this
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| 14:30 | <Pascal_1> you had to add the "keeppxe" option too
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| 14:38 | <Pascal_1> acp_, also sometime there is two options to activate in the bios, the boot option and the rom nic
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| 14:38 | sorry for my english
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| 14:47 | <acp_> hi, I got it working but when I try to login i get " this work station isn't authorized to connect to the server"
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| 14:49 | <Pascal_1> now you dont have the disk boot failure ?
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| 14:49 | with the new version ?
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| 14:49 | <ogra> acp_, sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 14:50 | <ogra> that will solve it ... your keys are outdated
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| 14:55 | <acp_> thanks ogra it work!
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| 14:55 | <ogra> :)
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| 15:14 | <acp_> sorry another question how do I make my sound work on my client side?
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| 15:16 | <acp_> Im using a headset and seem no sound but on the server side its working im testing it in youtube
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| 15:30 | <warren> vagrantc: ogra: I will be tagging ltsp-trunk later today.
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| 15:30 | <vagrantc> warren: could you tag 5.1.10 while you're at it?
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| 15:30 | <warren> vagrantc: oops, ok
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| 15:30 | <ogra> that would be nice
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| 15:30 | <warren> vagrantc: if I figure out how to tag an old version...
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| 15:30 | * vagrantc looks it up too | |
| 15:31 | <ogra> worst case make a whitespace change ?
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| 15:31 | in a readme file or so
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| 15:32 | <vagrantc> warren: bzr tag -r 472 ltsp-5.1.10 ?
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| 15:32 | oops
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| 15:32 | make that...
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| 15:32 | warren: bzr tag -r 742 ltsp-5.1.10 ?
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| 15:32 | <warren> ok
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| 15:32 | i'm testing stuff locally before a big push
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| 15:32 | (changes don't effect you folks at all)
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| 15:38 | <warren> one last test...
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| 15:50 | <warren> pushing ltsp-5.1.12
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| 16:30 | <ogra> warren, any reason to make it not 11 ?
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| 16:31 | (or did i miss a version ?)
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| 16:50 | <warren> ogra: 5.1.11 happened a few days ago
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| 16:50 | <ogra> ah, k
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| 16:50 | missed that
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| 18:49 | <MRH2> anyone know of any tips/guides to getting fglrx into ltsp?
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| 19:20 | <acp_> hi can any one direct me on how to make sound work on client side, My server is working fine when I watch youtube but when I browse youtube in client side there is no sound
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| 19:22 | <jammcq> hey all
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