IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 September 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:04 | <Royale_AJS> How do I convert thin clients to fat ones in Edubuntu?
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| 01:18 | <vagrantc> install a desktop in the chroot
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| 01:19 | make sure they have enough ram
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| 01:19 | i *think* something like: ltsp-chroot apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
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| 01:19 | Royale_AJS: that should do the trick ... not quite familiar with the ubuntu package names
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| 01:19 | so may have to adjust accordingly
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| 01:22 | <Royale_AJS> Let me see what I can do a sec.
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| 01:23 | <vagrantc> rebuild the image, too ... ltsp-update-image
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| 01:23 | i'd also recommend exploring ltsp-pnp methods:
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| 01:23 | !ltsp-pnp | echo Royale_AJS
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| 01:23 | <ltsp> Royale_AJS ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 01:24 | <Royale_AJS> 512M RAM on the clients only...but I'm having major performance issues when more than 10 machines load up on the server.
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| 01:25 | Server is on a 1GB switch but can't seem to run over 130MBit/sec out of it?
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| 01:26 | <vagrantc> any video will saturate even a 1GB connection with a small number of thin clients
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| 01:26 | anyways, gotta head out
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| 01:26 | good luck!
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| 01:26 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 01:26 | <vagrantc> !video
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| 01:26 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'video', but I do know about these similar topics: 'video-without-flash', 'video-test'
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| 01:26 | <vagrantc> !video-test
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| 01:26 | <ltsp> video-test: You can test your network and graphics drivers with http://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/BigBuckBunny_640x360.m4v. It's 640x360@24, which means it needs 66Mbit, which means you should be able to view it without dropped frames in e.g. 12 clients simultaneously
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| 01:26 | <vagrantc> hm.
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| 01:28 | <Royale_AJS> Thank you!
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| 05:16 | <alkisg> !vnc-dide
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| 05:16 | <ltsp> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 07:37 | <alvaro> Hello!
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| 07:37 | Does anybody know if Epoptes can be installed in a Fedora 24 without too much pain?
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| 07:38 | <alkisg> Hello alvaro
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| 07:39 | <alkisg> I think there's an opensuse rpm that can be used in fedora too
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| 07:39 | But I've never used fedora, so...
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| 07:42 | <alvaro> thanks, alkisg
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| 07:43 | I've never used fedora until this year, all the computers in the high school work with it
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| 07:43 | And I need to convince the IT crew to install epoptes...
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| 07:44 | I think this is the page, thank you very much: http://software.opensuse.org/package/epoptes
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| 07:45 | <alkisg> Yes, probably... I found this: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home%3Albssousa%3Aepoptes%3Adaily&package=epoptes
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| 07:45 | under fedora 24 => unsafe builds
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| 07:46 | So the binaries are there: https://build.opensuse.org/package/binaries/home:lbssousa:epoptes:daily/epoptes?repository=Fedora_24
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| 07:47 | <alvaro> I'll try both later in a virtualized environment, thanks
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| 07:47 | <alkisg> I've no idea what would be the proper way to use the binaries though, e.g. install them or add them as a repository, ask in #fedora if you have questions on how to use them
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| 07:47 | You're welcome
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| 09:58 | <marc__> Hi, have anybody Problems with LTSP and LibreOffice ...?
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| 10:03 | <cyberorg> alkisg, it is fedora 24 rpm, open build service uses real base distributions to build packages
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| 10:05 | build.opensuse.org should be renamed to http://openbuildservice.org/ :)
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| 12:51 | <al-geo> cyberorg its my ltsp client /var/log/boot.kiwi please help me something http://paste.opensuse.org/29048490
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| 12:57 | <cyberorg> al-geo, this issue is fixed in the latest packages
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| 12:57 | <al-geo> update server?
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| 12:57 | <cyberorg> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/ltsp/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/noarch/
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| 12:58 | install both kiwi-image-ltsp-13.2.1-52.20.noarch.rpm and kiwi-image-ltsp-boot-13.2.1-52.20.noarch.rpm
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| 12:58 | then rcklaoe restart
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| 12:59 | <al-geo> uninstall old ones?
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| 13:01 | <cyberorg> rpm -Uvh should do it automatically
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| 13:01 | <theller> Hello! I have an Ubuntu LTSP server that I updated to 16.04, the clients when I updated 4 out of 6 are having video display problems, change resolution to 1280x1024. I tried adding resolution to lts.conf with no avail.. I tried adding
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| 13:03 | <MeLLy> Can anyone help me? We are deploying an office and have a weird issue. We are on Debian 8. Some terminals will boot while some won't. In the logs it says this: Sep 20 08:05:14 magnus in.tftpd[6876]: sending NAK (1, File not found) to 172.30.70.105
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| 13:03 | Its happening on (2) terminals. All others boot just fine. All the directives in lts.conf are the same for all terminals. I know that error points to a tftp issue but it's not obvious to me what the issue would be.
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| 13:10 | <cyberorg> al-geo, here is the background of your issue https://github.com/openSUSE/kiwi/pull/596
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| 13:12 | <al-geo> yep that looks like me
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> MeLLy: check TFTP/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/01-mac-address for those terminals
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| 13:42 | theller: did you create a new chroot for 16.04</
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| 13:42 | ?
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| 13:43 | <theller> If you mean a new client image in opt, yes
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| 13:44 | I just took out the video card and used the onboard graphics and it works
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| 13:45 | <alkisg> OK
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| 13:47 | <theller> I checked the xorg.log of the client that works and one that doesen't. the broken one does not show 1280x1024@60Hz
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| 13:48 | <alkisg> I'm confused, when you let the onboard graphics work, was that "problem solved", or, "i need help in making the pci-e one work"</
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| 13:48 | ?
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| 13:49 | <MeLLy> I don't see anything underneath pxelinux.cfg called 01-mac-address
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| 13:50 | <alkisg> MeLLy: do you see anything starting with 01- there? or only ltsp, default etc?
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| 13:50 | <MeLLy> I only see default, ltsp, ltsp-*
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| 13:50 | Nothing with 01
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| 13:51 | <alkisg> OK
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| 13:51 | What do the terminals that don't boot display?
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| 13:52 | <MeLLy> It eventually gets to a point where it says "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off (intramfs)"
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> MeLLy: either type more things that come before that, or upload a screenshot with your mobile phone
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| 13:59 | <MeLLy> Here is a screenshot: http://picpaste.com/Resized_20160920_081247-scLXtVWk.jpg
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| 14:00 | <alkisg> MeLLy: it looks like your initramfs doesn't have the driver for this network card
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| 14:00 | MeLLy: can you load debian in that pc, with e.g. a live usb stick, so that you see if it works, and with what driver</
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| 14:00 | ?
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| 14:00 | <MeLLy> Really? That's interesting. We have the same exact type of terminals working for others so there shouldn't be a difference in nics
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| 14:01 | <alkisg> Do you see those module errors in the other pcs?
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| 14:01 | <MeLLy> No I don't
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| 14:01 | Only two of them
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| 14:01 | <alkisg> On the other pcs, what\s the output of lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 Ethernet ?
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| 14:01 | locally
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| 14:01 | (with screen_02=shell, or with epoptes, or with ssh...)
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| 14:01 | !localxterm
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| 14:01 | <ltsp> localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
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| 14:02 | <alkisg> ....or like that ^
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| 14:36 | <al-geo> cyberorg დიდნტ ჰელპ
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| 14:42 | cyberorg didnt help
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| 14:43 | <cyberorg> al-geo, whats the error now?
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> marc__: no, we don't, what issues are you having?
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| 14:43 | cyberorg: thanks, which binaries should fedora 24 users use, the testing ones by lbsousa?
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| 14:44 | <al-geo> and one more. last time you gave me kiwi-image-ltsp-0.9.6-6.1.noarch image and with this image client saw flash and with this new it doesnt
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| 14:44 | <cyberorg> alkisg, yes, thats the only one available
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| 14:44 | <alkisg> Nice, thank you
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| 14:45 | <cyberorg> al-geo, what do you mean by flash?
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| 14:45 | <al-geo> same as always failed to seup DHCP network interface !
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| 14:45 | <al-geo> flash usb
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| 14:45 | <cyberorg> al-geo, do you have other clients hardware to test?
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| 14:46 | <al-geo> to cp kiwi.log
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| 14:46 | yes i test on 3 different computers 1 oldest 2 new
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| 14:46 | <cyberorg> all have same error?
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| 14:52 | <al-geo> cyberorg yesthe same
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| 14:53 | <cyberorg> how are clients connected to the server, try direct connection without any switch in between to rule out connection issue
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| 14:54 | also check rpm -qa|grep ltsp the packages should be 52.20 version
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| 14:54 | i've tested real hardware as well as virtualbox client, works for me
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| 14:59 | <al-geo> wow cyberorg direct connect helpd
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| 14:59 | whats going on?
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| 14:59 | <cyberorg> something wrong with your switch
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| 14:59 | <al-geo> you are greatest
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| 15:00 | <cyberorg> or you may have another dhcp server in the network which interferes with ltsp one, try proxy mode edit /etc/dnsmasq.d/kiwi-ltsp.conf
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| 15:00 | then rcdnsmasq restart
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| 15:01 | if the client still boot in proxy mode then you got another dhcp somewhere
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| 15:16 | <theller> alkisg, I'm back...I have the onboard video working but I would like pci-e (GTX 970) working.
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| 15:16 | I went through the bios on both machines and all the settings are the same.
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| 15:19 | <al-geo> cyberorg do you have some good doc about kiwi-ltsp? i need some advanced options and build my images for local ip
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| 15:19 | cyberorg do you have some good doc about kiwi-ltsp? i need some advanced options and build my images for local app
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| 15:21 | this is it :D wow it works. i turn on portfast on switch and it works. all the time it was switch
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| 15:22 | :D
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| 17:02 | <alkisg> theller: the onboard video probably is intel, and it will perform better than nvidia with the default nouveau driver
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| 17:02 | theller: if you're looking for 3d support on the nvidia card, you should install the nvidia drivers in the chroot, but it gets messy if you have different clients
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| 17:04 | theller: if you just want to enforce a video mode, start with putting the output of `xrandr` to pastebin
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| 17:04 | and also pastebin the client's xorg.log
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| 19:22 | <theller> alkisg, thanks I might try nvidia drivers tomorrow and use lts.conf to assign which computers get which drivers. Otherwise intel is working great! Thanks
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