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Channel log from 28 April 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:10 | <nicolasb> hello i m trying to setup ltsp but currently everything hang when ldm start ( screen displays but no keyboard nor mouse) , i ve tried to update sss keys and kernels but since my setup is not exactly default i m not sure if the connection actually starts
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| 03:10 | how can i check if the connection is ok or how can i debug ldm?
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| 03:11 | i suspect connection is the prblem because i have the same problem wether i try the ldm / rdesktop or startx
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| 03:21 | <ogra> connection as well as ssh keys only matter *after* you log in
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| 03:21 | neither has anything to do with X bringing up input support
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| 03:25 | <nicolasb> ok thanks then how can i debug currently as soon as the screen appears i loose the mouse and keyboard
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| 03:26 | i ve tried looking at the X.log but theres nothing inside
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| 03:26 | or more exactly veryy little
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| 03:29 | sorry i was blind i have this (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
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| 03:29 | (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
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| 03:29 | (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
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| 03:29 | (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
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| 03:29 | If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.
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| 03:29 | (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
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| 03:29 | (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
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| 03:29 | (II) System resource ranges:
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| 03:29 | [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
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| 03:29 | [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
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| 03:29 | [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
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| 03:29 | [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
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| 03:29 | [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
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| 03:29 | [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
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| 03:32 | sorry it s probably a simple conf setup in x or should i activate something in lts.conf?
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| 03:35 | <ogra> !distro
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| 03:35 | <ltspbot`> ogra: Error: "distro" is not a valid command.
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| 03:35 | <ogra> !dist
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| 03:35 | <ltspbot`> ogra: "release" :: please mention the linux distro and release you're using :)
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| 03:35 | <ogra> nicolasb, ^^^
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| 03:36 | <nicolasb> sorry i forgot ubuntu
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| 03:36 | currently the server is running hardy
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| 03:36 | but i have built the thin clients for jaunty
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| 04:22 | <alkisg> nicolasb: what do you get with `ls -lha /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386` and what with `sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg -l 'linux*' | grep ^ii' ? Use the pastebin to paste the results.
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| 04:38 | <traien> Hi, I have a little problem with my LTSP system and I'm wondering if someone here could help. It's about usb memory sticks - they don't mount properly when inserted to clients' usb ports.
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| 04:38 | <traien> On my server I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 beta 2.
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| 04:41 | <traien> And I have LOCALDEV=True and LOCAL_STORAGE=True in my lts.conf. I've checked that client machines regognize the stick (I enabled client side root account with chroot) and it's shown in /var/run/drives
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| 05:27 | <traien> So there is nobody around who could help me?
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| 05:28 | <alkisg> traien: distro/version?
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| 05:28 | <traien> Ubuntu 10.04 AMD64
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| 05:29 | You've read my problem?
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| 05:29 | <alkisg> Yeah I've just seen the logs. What file system is your usb formatted with?
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| 05:29 | <traien> I've also followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev but it didn't help.
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| 05:30 | Its FAT32...
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| 05:30 | But it works when inserted into the servers usb port.
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| 05:30 | So the file system souldn't be the problem.
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| 05:30 | <alkisg> Can you try with a different stick? I've seen cases where it's mounted on the server but not on the clients, but if it's reformatted from gparted, then it also works on the client.
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| 05:31 | <traien> Yes I have.
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| 05:32 | But there's one thing with the guide... When I type lsmod | grep fuse it seems that fuse is not loaded on the server. The fuse packages are installed and /dev/fuse exists. Could that cause the problem?
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| 05:32 | modprobe fuse doesn't do anything either
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| 05:33 | <alkisg> I think that's not a problem, there were some changes in fuse in karmic afaik
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| 05:33 | <traien> Ok
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| 05:35 | <alkisg> traien: I'm not very familiar with ltspfsd so I can't help, but if you don't get an answer, try again in a few hours, more people/ltsp devs are online then.
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| 05:36 | <traien> alkisg: Ok, thanks. I'll ask later when there are more people around.
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| 07:27 | <traien> Is there anyone who could help me with a ltspfsd related problem?
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| 07:28 | <traien> Or maybe I'll just have to wait a bit longer...
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| 07:29 | <Appiah> maybe you should just ask
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| 07:29 | <komunista> hello all
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| 07:30 | <traien> Ok
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| 07:31 | The problem is related to usb memory sticks. They won't mount. I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev and they weren't much useful.
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| 07:31 | I can mount them on the server but the client side doesn't function.
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| 07:31 | <Appiah> Dist? LTSP version?
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| 07:32 | <traien> Ubuntu 10.04 AMD64
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| 07:32 | LTSP5
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| 07:33 | <Appiah> and what happend when your tried manually?
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| 07:35 | <traien> Well the client regognizes the plug event and when I'm root@ client I can mount them to the client's local file system...
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| 07:35 | But I didn't try the command "ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add" yet...
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| 07:36 | The command ltspfsmounter doesn't exist...
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| 07:36 | <ogra> do you have ltspfs installed on the server ?
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| 07:36 | <Appiah> >_>
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| 07:37 | <ogra> (its a dependency of ltsp-server though it should be there)
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| 07:37 | <traien> Yes, it's installed.
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| 07:37 | <Appiah> dpkg -l ltspfs | grep ^ii
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| 07:37 | <traien> ii ltspfs 0.6-0ubuntu1
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| 07:37 | <Appiah> and in the fuse group
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| 07:37 | `?
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| 07:37 | <ogra> you dont need the fuxe group on 10.04
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| 07:37 | *fuse
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| 07:38 | <Appiah> I see
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| 07:38 | * Appiah have yet to try 10.04 | |
| 07:38 | <traien> Could my problem be a bug related to 10.04 and 64-bit environment?
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| 07:38 | <ogra> fuse is no a module anymore and the permissions for using fuse devices have been loosened, no group boundary anymore
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| 07:39 | no
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| 07:39 | <traien> ok
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| 07:39 | <ogra> you use a normal gnome desktop ?
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| 07:39 | <traien> yes
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| 07:40 | <ogra> and there is nothing apprearinf on the server in /media if you plug in the USB key on a client ?
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| 07:42 | <traien> nothing appears
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| 07:43 | <ogra> did you add an lts.conf ?
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| 07:44 | <traien> My lts.conf looks like this:
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| 07:44 | [default]
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| 07:44 | <ogra> dont paste if its more than three lines !
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| 07:44 | !pastebin
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| 07:44 | <ltspbot`> ogra: "pastebin" :: try !pastebot
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| 07:44 | <ogra> !pastebot
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| 07:44 | <ltspbot`> ogra: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 07:44 | <traien> It's not...
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| 07:45 | <ogra> ok
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| 07:45 | <traien> X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 LDM_DIRECX=True LOCALDEV=True
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| 07:45 | <ogra> apart from LDM_DIRCETX thats all defaults
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| 07:45 | *DIRECTX
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| 07:45 | <Appiah> Does dmesg say anything?
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| 07:46 | <traien> and LOCAL_STORAGE=True is not needed? I also tried that but it didn't make difference.
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| 07:46 | <ogra> no
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| 07:46 | try without lts.conf first anyway, move it out of place
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| 07:46 | is your usb key having proper partitions ?
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| 07:47 | <traien> Yes and it works when inserted into server's usb port.
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| 07:47 | <ogra> that doesnt matter
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| 07:47 | but it is partitioned ?
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| 07:47 | <traien> I've also tried several other usb keys. None of them work. And they are partitioned properly.
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| 07:48 | <ogra> (i.e. it shows up in demsg as /dev/sda1 not just /dev/sda)
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| 07:48 | <traien> dmesg on the server says nothing about the usb key... when I log on the client (Alt+F1) using the root password of the ltsp chroot environment, then dmesg shows the information about the usb key and I can also mount it locally
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| 07:53 | Now I've moved my lts.conf but it didn't make any difference.
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| 07:53 | <ogra> you rebooted the client after doing that ?
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| 07:53 | <traien> ofcourse
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| 07:53 | <ogra> (lts.conf is read on boot)
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| 07:53 | ok
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| 07:53 | <traien> I know
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| 07:55 | <ogra> so if you plug in your usb key and issue: ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /dev/sda1 add
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| 07:55 | in your clients rootshell, what does that return
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| 07:55 | <traien> there are two of them actually, but the /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/lts.conf is empty already... I've used the one located in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64
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| 07:56 | <ogra> /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/lts.conf is overwritten on boot
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| 07:56 | <traien> ok
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| 07:56 | <ogra> and should be empty all the time
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| 07:57 | oh, the command above misses a "
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| 07:57 | at the end
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| 07:57 | <traien> Ok, I'll try the command... one moment please
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| 07:58 | <ogra> make sure a user is logged in while you try that
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| 07:58 | and indeed that the USB key is plugged into the client
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| 07:58 | <traien> but... the command ltspfsmounter doesn't exist
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| 07:59 | there are only ltspfs_mount and ltspfs_umount
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| 07:59 | <ogra> on the server ?
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| 08:00 | ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 means "execute this command though the ssh tunnel established for socket /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 on the machine 192.168.0.254"
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| 08:00 | <traien> Oh, sorry... :)
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| 08:00 | it does exist
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| 08:00 | <ogra> right
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| 08:00 | its part of ltspfs
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| 08:04 | <traien> hmm...
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| 08:04 | ERROR connecting
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| 08:04 | Error: /tmp/.koe-ltspfs/tmp is not mounted
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| 08:05 | <alkisg> Firewalls?
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| 08:05 | <ogra> /tmp/.koe-ltspfs/tmp ?
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| 08:05 | did you try my command from above ?
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| 08:05 | "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /dev/sda1 add"
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| 08:05 | <traien> It also asked about RSA key fingerprint and I replied "yes".
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| 08:06 | <ogra> hrm, shouldnt have done that
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| 08:06 | since you used an existing socket
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| 08:06 | /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 exists i suppose ?
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| 08:09 | <traien> no
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| 08:10 | <traien> there was /var/run/ldm_socket_3065_vt7_192.168.0.1
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| 08:10 | now I tried that and there was no error messages
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| 08:10 | but the usb key still didn't mount
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| 08:11 | and now there are no ldm_socket* files on /var/run
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| 08:11 | <Appiah> problem with keys? ltsp-update-image?
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| 08:12 | err
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| 08:16 | <traien> hmm. stupid me... I didn't notice that after running the ssh command I was logged on the server... and on the server /var/run/ldm_socket didn't exist...
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| 08:16 | so the command runs without error messages
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| 08:16 | mut the usb stick doesn't mount
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| 08:17 | <traien> on the server dmesg says nothing
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| 08:18 | <Appiah> I thought there was a ltsp PPA or was that stgraber's PPA?
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| 08:19 | <traien> PPA?
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| 08:22 | but anyway... in the client's rootshell there is /var/run/ldm_socket_3356_192_168_0_1... And I ran the command: ssh -X -S /var/run/ladm_socket_3356_192_168_0_1 192.168.0.1. "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /dev/sdb1 add" (the memory stick on the client appears on /dev/sdb1)
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| 08:24 | and there was no result: the memory stick icon didn't appear on the desktop
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| 08:25 | and when I try this command subtituting /dev/sdb1 with /tmp (suggested on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev) there's also no result
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| 08:26 | I'm sorry if my explanation has been a little confusing... But you have also no idea what could be wrong?
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| 08:37 | Now I have a new result... Afre updating ltsp-image...
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| 08:38 | Wrote 20d etc.etc. size 32, waiting
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| 08:38 | Authentication failed.
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| 08:38 | Error: /tmp/.koe-ltspfs/sdb1 is not mounted
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| 08:39 | ogra: Are you still there?
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| 08:43 | * shawnp0wers pulls out his hair and throws it in a pile | |
| 08:43 | <shawnp0wers> :)
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| 08:43 | I've had this problem before, but for the life of me can't remember what the cause was:
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| 08:44 | My thin clients (on 10.04 or 9.10) start to log in, I see the user's background image and the login music starts, but then it cuts off and reverts to the LDM login page
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| 08:44 | Does this ring a bell to anyone?
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| 08:45 | <traien> I've had the same problem.
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| 08:45 | <shawnp0wers> Any chance you remember what the problem was? :)
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| 08:45 | <traien> Unfortunately no.
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| 08:45 | <shawnp0wers> lol… me neither. :)
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| 08:46 | <traien> I had it with Ubuntu 8.04..
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| 08:46 | <Appiah> shawnp0wers: I had that
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| 08:46 | that was a user profile error
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| 08:46 | and/or permission issue
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| 08:46 | <shawnp0wers> permission on what though?
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| 08:46 | <Appiah> gnome should log that into some session log
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| 08:46 | <shawnp0wers> this user (me!) can log on to other servers just fine...
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| 08:46 | <Appiah> shawnp0wers: homedir
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| 08:46 | <shawnp0wers> ok, I'll go look there...
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| 08:47 | <Appiah> check the gnome session log
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| 08:47 | <traien> but nobody has anything to say about my problem and this authentication error I had?
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| 08:48 | <shawnp0wers> traien: I just joined the channel
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| 08:48 | what authentication error?
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| 08:48 | did you run ltsp-update-sshkeys ?
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| 08:48 | and then ltsp-update-image?
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| 08:49 | Appiah: Hmm, "unable to open X display x.x.x.x:7.0"
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| 08:49 | yet, the desktop appears
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| 08:49 | <Appiah> oh ltsp-update-sshkeys ! :D
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| 08:49 | <shawnp0wers> so X works, at least momentarily
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| 08:50 | yes, sadly I tried that...
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| 08:51 | <traien> shawnp0wers: I've been troubleshooting LocalDev... The usb keys inserted into clients' usb ports won't mount. And when I run: ssh -X -S /var/run/ladm_socket_3356_192_168_0_1 192.168.0.1 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /dev/sdb1 add" I get the error message: Authentication failed. Error: /tmp/.koe-ltspfs/sdb1 is not mountted
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| 08:51 | <shawnp0wers> traien: have you tried ltsp-update-sshkeys ?
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| 08:52 | and then you must rebuild the image I believe
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| 08:52 | <Appiah> shawnp0wers: but you did do ltsp-update-image too right?
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| 08:54 | <shawnp0wers> Yep...
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| 08:54 | and it's all users
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| 08:54 | (just retried to make sure)
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| 08:54 | <Appiah> and the gnome error just says unable to open X display?
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| 08:55 | <shawnp0wers> well, it says a LOT
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| 08:55 | lol
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| 08:55 | I'm clearing it now to see what is "fresh"
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| 08:55 | <Appiah> pastebin :D
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| 08:56 | <traien> shawnp0wers: Now I've tried ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image and rebooted the client... The problem remains... And that must be also the reason why the usb keys didn't work in the first place.
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| 08:57 | <shawnp0wers> Appiah: http://pastebin.com/8h1wnXUt
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| 08:57 | traien: There may be issues with users needing to be in the fuse group, but I'm not positive
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| 08:58 | <traien> shawnp0wers: Some one said before that when using Ubuntu 10.04 the fuse group is not needed anymore.
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| 08:59 | <shawnp0wers> They're probably correct — there was a workaround before that I had to do. (Adding 1000 users to a group that didn't exist on my LDAP server wasn't possible...)
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| 08:59 | <alkisg> shawnp0wers: that same behavior also happens with compiz problems...
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| 08:59 | !compiz
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| 08:59 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 09:00 | <Appiah> is your lts.conf up to date shawnp0wers ?
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| 09:00 | <shawnp0wers> Appiah: it should be
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| 09:00 | I have tweaked it only slightly
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| 09:00 | <Appiah> do you have nfs homedirs?
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| 09:00 | <shawnp0wers> yes.
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| 09:01 | <Appiah> might be something there..
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| 09:01 | <shawnp0wers> oddly, earlier today I had this problem, but it seemd to magically disappear
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| 09:01 | I didn't *do* anything
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| 09:01 | <Appiah> nfs is maybe borking
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| 09:01 | <shawnp0wers> so it's a bit frustrating. :)
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| 09:01 | it could be
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| 09:01 | it's a test server
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| 09:01 | lemme restart it
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| 09:01 | and see if it heals
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| 09:02 | BUT, it does read enough to write the error file...
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| 09:02 | <traien> Very irritating... Should I just make an error report or is this problem just a result of misconfiguration... the documentation doesn't help much.
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| 09:02 | <Appiah> well
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| 09:02 | did you upgrade to 10.04?
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| 09:02 | or is it a clean install?
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| 09:03 | <traien> It's a clean install.
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| 09:03 | <Appiah> 10.04 is being released tommorow :)
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| 09:03 | <traien> This server had a working 9.04 installation but it was erased.
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| 09:03 | So I made a clean install.
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| 09:04 | So maybe I should make a clean 10.04 install tomorrow and hope for the best?
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| 09:04 | This installation I have now was beta1 and then updated to beta2... And now this should be rc...
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| 09:04 | <traien> But I've had this memory stick problem all the time.
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| 09:05 | I've waited that some update would fix that but...
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| 09:05 | With 10.04 the memory sticks should work with the default configuration and not cause any problems, if I understood right.
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| 09:06 | <Appiah> I know USB disk/sticks is a bug in Jaunty
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| 09:07 | <traien> Appiah: Ok... and will it be fixed soon?
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| 09:08 | <Appiah> Jaunty is old..
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| 09:08 | Ubuntu 9.04
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| 09:08 | there's a workaround on the wiki for that
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| 09:09 | <lfaraone> ~douardda linked the ltsp trunk branch to bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/415952, but I couldn't find anywhere in the revision history where this was fixed. Have the casts in ltspfsd_functions.c been corrected?
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| 09:10 | <traien> Appiah: Ok, I don't remember these "codenames"... So 10.04 is Lucid...
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| 09:10 | <Appiah> traien: well I dont blame you :)
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| 09:12 | <traien> but it's still unclear to me why mounting the usb key gives an authentication error... maybe there's nothing I can do about it... or should I write a bug report?
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| 09:15 | <lfaraone> traien: by the way, you can't directly go to 10.04 (Lucid) from 9.04 (Jaunty), you need to go through 9.10 (Karmic) first or do a clean install.
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| 09:17 | <traien> lfaraone: Ok but that's not the problem here because the 9.04 installations have been already fully erased. Anyway there was no usb memory stick problems with that installation... The problem came along just after this clean 10.04 installation.
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| 09:17 | <lfaraone> traien: if you're encountering USB issues under 10.04, yes, that should be a bug if it did not exist in previous versions.
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| 09:19 | <traien> Ok. I'll make an error report. But first I'll wait for the final 10.04 version and hope for the best. Who knows if they have already fixed the bug by then.
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| 09:19 | <traien> Fortunately I have two identical servers so I can make a clean installation tomorrow.
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| 09:19 | <Appiah> yes , search for existing bugs reports first :D
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| 09:30 | <alkisg_web> While running `sudo rsync -av myhomedir mybackupdir`, rsync creates all hidden (starting with dot) directories with root as the owner, instead of alkisg. Isn't `-a` supposed to preserve dir ownership? What am I doing wrong?
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| 09:53 | <komunista> alkisg_web: nothing wrong, who is owner orig files?
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| 09:54 | <alkisg_web> komunista: e.g. if I try `sudo rsync -av /home/alkisg /mybackup`, alkisg is the owner of the original directories, but the target directories are created with root as the owner! The files owner is preserved, though... :-0
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| 10:00 | <komunista> I am using similar wy, only not by sudo and the file/dirs owner are preserved
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| 10:00 | but now I see: the user is preserved by name, but group is preserved by the GID number :-)
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| 10:01 | but this can be, because I have the same users on both macines, but not same groups
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| 10:24 | <dobber> everytime i run a flash video from youtube, the traffic from the server jumps to 100mb/s
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| 10:27 | <emence> is there an easy way to clone a LTSP user
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| 10:28 | <emence> i have a user "shopfloor" i need to clone to about 15 other shopfloor accounts .. like shopfloor1
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| 10:31 | <alkisg_web> dobber: full screen?
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| 10:38 | <alkisg_web> komunista: thanks - problem solved: I was copying 100Gb and I was looking at the owner while it was still copying. I guess it doesn't set the owner right after it copies each file, but at a later point...
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| 10:39 | <komunista> alkisg_web: thanks, I never see while rsync works :-)
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| 10:39 | <komunista> try -z option (to compress traffic)
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| 10:43 | <komunista> oh, sorry, local rsync :-)
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| 10:56 | <emence> does anyone know of a way to make firefox run locally on the thin client instead of running it from the server
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| 10:56 | <vagrantc> !docs
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| 10:57 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 10:57 | <komunista> emence: ubuntu wiki
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| 10:57 | <emence> tks
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| 11:27 | <knipwim> johnny: is it ok if i commit my ssyslog solution?
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| 11:28 | <emence> if your running firefox from the local thin client, is there a way you can set it up to use a certain home directory and proxy server?
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| 11:28 | without having to go terminal to terminal
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| 11:30 | <johnny> emence, you can set some things in /etc/firefox
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| 11:30 | i forget what filenames they are in there, but it acts the same as the user.js files you would put in your own personal profile
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| 11:30 | <alkisg> Depends on the distro, version, firefox version etc
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| 11:31 | <johnny> hmm? firefox version?
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| 11:31 | how so?
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| 11:31 | what did they go changing..
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| 11:31 | <alkisg> It uses different dirs in different versions
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| 11:33 | <emence> hmm..
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| 11:33 | lemme check it out.. im running ubuntu ltsp
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| 11:50 | <knipwim> johnny: also, i'd like to clean up the gentoo setup initrd
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| 11:50 | some functions are duplicates of the ones in ltsp-init-common
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| 11:50 | <johnny> initrd ?
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| 11:51 | alkisg, that sucks :(
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| 11:51 | <knipwim> init.d/sltsp-client-setup
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| 11:51 | <johnny> ah.. big difference :)
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| 11:51 | <alkisg> johnny: yup, I do hope they're going to use /etc/firefox soon :)
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| 11:51 | <johnny> knipwim, sure.. go ahead.. altho we do need to get the remote syslog working with rsyslog at some point again
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| 11:52 | perhaps a todo
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| 11:53 | <knipwim> check
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| 12:16 | <epaphus> hello guys.. how do I kill a local app without entering another shell with alt ctrl f2 as root?
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| 12:17 | i want to make a script for people to execute in case on of their local apps freezes on their thin client
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| 12:24 | <johnny> hmm.. and that is why we need to communicate with the server more so..
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| 12:24 | would be nice to tell the server session what we have locally running..
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| 12:25 | <Ghid0rah> Has anyone been able to get likewise-open to assume-default-domain to work in Ubuntu 10.04?
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| 12:28 | <johnny> wrong channel Ghid0rah
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| 12:29 | try #ubuntu
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| 12:29 | <Ghid0rah> Thanks.
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| 12:39 | <denisesball> anyone know how to change the default theme on an ubuntu install? or at least how to change the window button possition system wide? not gonna want my ltsp users on ubuntu 10.04 having their window buttons switched...
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| 12:39 | also dont want to make all of them run gconf-editor when they log in
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| 13:00 | <gc_domrep> hello guys. i have a 24 Port 10/100 switch with 2 GBit ports. If i connect the server to the GBit port, does all the clients have about 10MBits rate?
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| 13:02 | <johnny> the clients have the rate of the max of their card speed.. and then the max port speed..
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| 13:03 | so.. if the cards are 100..and the ports are max 100.. then it should be 100..
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| 13:04 | <gc_domrep> yes the client cards are 100. But i am wondering if the switch is able to handle e.g 10 x 10Mbit to 100Mbit to the GBit port
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| 13:08 | <johnny> 10 x 100 you mean..
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| 13:08 | that's up to your switch .. you'll probably be fine
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| 13:09 | <gc_domrep> ok i'll try!! Thanks
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| 14:39 | <knipwim> johnny: this is the result of my cleanup, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wimmuskee/ltsp/ltsp-gentoo-dev/revision/5
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| 14:39 | 1. fixed the keymap sed and change the functionname, configure_console from ltsp-init-common is not needed
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| 14:39 | 2. removed bind_unmounts configure_fstab configure_localdev, they are also in ltsp-init-common
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| 14:39 | 3. configure_resolver is executed before the one in ltsp-init-common is loaded, now it works
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| 14:39 | changed tabs to spaces in the rest of the changes
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| 14:40 | are you okay with it?
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| 15:02 | <mordocai> Hello, is there a up to date guide anywhere for installing LTSP on RHEL 5? I had little trouble installing it on fedora, but fedora has the package in the repositories, and i'm not sure where to get the package(or if there is one) for RHEL.
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| 15:36 | <komunista> vagrantc: I get icons to ltsp-logout dialog and add command line options to timeout and logout command now (http://paste.lubomirr.eu/431)
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| 15:47 | <davemir> Lns: Hello!
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| 15:57 | <mjk64> Hi! I want to turn my notebook into an X terminal that runs Debian *testing*, but my X terminal server runs Debian *stable*. I want my X terminal to have a complete Debian testing chroot environment, not just one for booting/starting X server. How would I go about it?
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| 15:58 | <davemir> vagrantc: hello!
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| 15:59 | alkisg: Hello!
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| 16:05 | <davemir> vagrantc, Lns, komunista, alkisg: if something happens I have not used ltsp-update-sshkeys?
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| 16:08 | <johnny> mjk64, then you want to use fat client support
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| 16:08 | not sure if there is a fat client support for debian or not tho
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| 16:09 | ask vagrantc ..
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| 16:10 | <mjk64> johnny: fat-client support sounds like a good google keyword, thanks =)
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| 16:10 | <johnny> mjk64, but.. the person who would implement such a thing is right here
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| 16:11 | mjk64, do this..
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| 16:11 | <mjk64> Wait, I thought that already existed?
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| 16:11 | <johnny> find /usr/share/ltsp -iname '*fatclient*'
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| 16:12 | <johnny> mjk64, it exists for ubuntu.. not sure about debian
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| 16:12 | altho obviously it wouldn't be too hard to make it sharable
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| 16:13 | <alkisg> It should be there in testing, but probably ...untested :)
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| 16:14 | <johnny> ah.. alkisg
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| 16:15 | <mjk64> johnny: Damn, not in Debian
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| 16:15 | I'll surf the web a little for that ...
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| 16:15 | <johnny> mjk64, alkisg says it is in testing
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| 16:15 | so.. you would need to install ltsp-srver from testing
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| 16:16 | <mjk64> Hm, that's an idea ... let's see about its dependencies ....
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| 16:16 | <johnny> shouldn't be too bad
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| 16:16 | <alkisg> Check the stable backports too... what ltsp version is there?
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| 16:17 | http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny-backports/ltsp
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| 16:18 | 5.2-1~bpo50+1, yup, it should contain the ubuntu code there, so with a bit of patching you could get it running in debian. It won't work out of the box, though.
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| 16:18 | <mjk64> Ahaaa!
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| 16:19 | In the testing version, I have /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/030-fat-client
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| 16:19 | alkisg: patching? Patching what?
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> That script, mostly
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| 16:20 | E.g. now it tries to autodetect the DE from x|ku|ed|ubuntu
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| 16:20 | <mjk64> Ah okay, will look into that
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| 16:21 | <alkisg> ...if you specify a "FAT_CLIENT_DESKTOPS" parameter though, you could get past the autodetection code
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| 16:22 | Also you should remove the "ubuntu-standard" reference at the bottom
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| 16:23 | And you'd need to symlink it to the debian dir for it to take effect
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| 16:23 | If you got something that works, we could probably push it upstream.
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| 16:24 | <mjk64> alkisg: Thanks for all the hints!
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> np, feel free to ping me if you get stuck at any point.
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| 16:24 | <mjk64> okay!
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| 16:27 | <davemir> I could help someone with thin client manager, please?
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| 16:34 | <davemir> I could help someone with thin client manager, please?
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| 16:34 | <mjk64> alkisg: Hm, it seems as the FAT_CLIENT_DESKTOPS variable would contain the name of a desktop-environment package that should be installed ... but what if I want only X + fvwm? Would I set that to "fvwm"?
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| 16:39 | <alkisg> mjk64: you can put multiple packages there, but I don't know which ones are composing a "standard X + fvwm environment"
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| 16:41 | <mjk64> alkisg: I'll find out =)
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| 16:59 | <markit> hi, OT. I'm using ltsp with squid and dansguard for a school. I need to let teachers surf web without restrictions. I've tried to configure dansguardian with Ident authentication, but seems does not catch the "teacher" user, any idea?
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| 17:15 | <davemir> Lns: Hello!
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| 19:02 | <myjess> anyone alive in here?
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| 19:31 | <myjess> ltsp 5.2 on netbook. vbox used as test machine. xinetd running with correct scripts in place for ports. ssh-update and update image done. Cannot sudo with user setup on server with all privs. What is wrong?
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| 21:14 | <johnny> myjess, xinetd? which distro..
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| 21:14 | that's not used on ubuntu or debian
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| 21:14 | user must be in wheel to sudo.
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