IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 8 July 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:22 | <vagrantc> LTSP saves the day.
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| 01:23 | somehow got a corrupted partition table, and could only network boot.
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| 01:23 | thank you LTSP.
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| 10:07 | <cliebow_> ITS RAGNAR!!!
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| 10:12 | <laprag> hey chuck
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| 10:12 | been waving to you now and then flying overhead :)
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| 10:13 | <cliebow_> ive been watching!..you in the States now?
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| 10:14 | are you as totally behind as I am?
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| 10:15 | <laprag> I am currently on vacation, just returned from watching Americas Cup in Spain actually :)
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| 10:17 | coming across next Sunday
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| 10:31 | <cliebow_> going for Mexican Foofd!
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| 15:03 | <sbalneav> Afternoon all
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| 15:26 | <cliebow_> Scott!!
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| 15:28 | <sbalneav> Hey cliebow_
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| 15:30 | <cliebow_> 8~)..you takaing the day easy?
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| 15:31 | <sbalneav> working on Ldm2
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| 15:36 | <cliebow_> iwconfig
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| 15:36 | i am so lost ill never cqtch up...
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| 15:39 | <Q-FUNK> oh, will ldm2 be compatible with gdm themes?
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| 15:39 | it would be a nice trick
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| 15:41 | <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: I'd say no. At least, I have no plans for it myself.
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| 15:41 | <Q-FUNK> ok
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| 15:42 | it would just simplify life a lot if the same themes can be shared.
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| 15:42 | <sbalneav> Someone else can always hack it in, if they want.
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| 15:51 | <cliebow_> sbalneav:I be rooting for Canada when they play tonight!
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| 15:51 | <sbalneav> What are we playing?
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| 15:52 | * sbalneav doesn't follow sports at all. | |
| 15:52 | <cliebow_> Soccer that is
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| 15:53 | <Lumiere> cliebow_: you should have been rooting for Toronto it sounds like
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| 18:09 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: in ltspfs, is the static-device support strictly limited to floppies ?
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| 19:15 | <PMantis> Does anyone here know how to lookup the UUID of a partition?
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| 19:26 | <jammcq> tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
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| 19:51 | <PMantis> Ahhh, that'll do it, too...
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| 19:51 | I found the /dev/disks/by-uuid path
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| 19:52 | Heh doesn't work for fat partitions.
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| 19:52 | <jammcq> silly me, I assumed you were talking about Linux
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| 19:53 | <PMantis> I am, just have a fat partition for music so the HP Quickplay can find it.
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| 19:53 | That's a mini OS for DVDs and music
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| 19:54 | * PMantis wiped his laptop, did a fresh Edgy install. | |
| 19:54 | <PMantis> bigger HD
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| 19:56 | <vagrantc> PMantis: that's, like, so last year's release.
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| 19:57 | <cliebow> there is one theorettically long-term
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| 19:57 | release..
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| 19:58 | <vagrantc> dapper
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| 19:58 | <cliebow> ant rememberwhich
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| 19:58 | dapper is so err..last err
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| 19:58 | <vagrantc> edgy was the "let's release quick to catch up" release
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| 19:58 | <cliebow> they all rock inmy book 8~)
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| 20:00 | <PMantis> vagrantc: Errr, Feisty.. 7.04 either way. :)
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| 22:03 | <FCM> hey i'm setting up my office with an ltsp server and a couple of the agents want to have dual monitor support. I also had a request for compiz-fusion... Can someone point me in the right direction?
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| 22:06 | anyone?
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| 22:13 | <vagrantc> FCM: you should be able to use a static configuration file for X if autodetection doesn't come up with two monitors ....
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| 22:13 | <FCM> ok and where would i change it? if it doesn't?
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| 22:14 | <vagrantc> which distro?
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| 22:15 | <FCM> edubuntu
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| 22:15 | <vagrantc> in any case, setting XF86COFIG_FILE=/path/to/static/config/file relative to /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 22:16 | (yes, XF86CONFIG_FILE ... we never updated the variable name for X.org)
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| 22:17 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: Well, I think the udev rules now just handle cdrom's and floppies.
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| 22:17 | But it could be for anything.
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| 22:17 | <FCM> ok thanks i'll give it a try. any idea on compiz-fusion?
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| 22:17 | <sbalneav> Are you referring to the bug you mentioned the other day, about the hard drives?
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| 22:18 | Compiz you wouldn't really want to run over a thin client.
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| 22:19 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: yeah, looking into making it configurable for the local hard drive access.
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| 22:19 | <sbalneav> That's going to be a tough one to do properly.
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| 22:19 | <vagrantc> wasn't compiz working great with the classmatepc running LTSP ?
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| 22:20 | <sbalneav> it was running great ON the classmate
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| 22:20 | <vagrantc> much to everyone's surprise
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| 22:20 | <sbalneav> NOT as a terminal.
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| 22:20 | <vagrantc> no, it was definitely running the classmate as a terminal.
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| 22:20 | <sbalneav> Then I missed that part.
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| 22:20 | <vagrantc> i remember that quite clearly.
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| 22:21 | <sbalneav> The problem with the hard drives is going to be: everything's going to look like an sd
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| 22:21 | <vagrantc> there is an ATTRS{removable} boolean available in udev
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| 22:22 | can we export that to the *_fstab_entry scripts ?
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| 22:23 | we have a patch that sort of works ... by basically breaking delayed mounter stuff
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| 22:23 | <sbalneav> How you gonna handle it when we get the inevitable "Well, I want the SECOND hard disk to be accessible, but not the FIRST one", etc? heh. Yeah, but twigging something off the "removable" attribute's probably a good stopgap.
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| 22:23 | <FCM> ok sbalneav so have any idea how to get it working? I can put hard drives in all the systems if need be.
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| 22:24 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: that's when we say "sane patches gladly accepted"
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| 22:24 | FCM: install compiz on the server and see what happens when you use it on a thin-client.
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| 22:24 | <sbalneav> My first gut reaction is: "disable drives in BIOS that you don't want visible". But I suspect I'd be judged as a cranky old fart for saying that :)
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| 22:25 | <FCM> lol ok i'll play with it.
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| 22:25 | <sbalneav> FCM: Dunno. I have absolutely ZERO interest in compiz/beryl/other CPU wasting garbage, so I've never used it :)
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| 22:26 | <FCM> lol ok. I have great use for it so i'll dink around with it. :) thanks for the help
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| 22:26 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: the best argument i have for the behavior is that all users aren't given access to all the hard drives on a "normal" system, so it's kind of unexpected behavior.
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| 22:26 | sbalneav: most automagic mounting stuff just handles hotpluggable devices
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| 22:26 | <sbalneav> A "normal" thin client doesn't have a hard drive in it :)
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| 22:27 | <vagrantc> well...
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| 22:27 | <sbalneav> I suppose we could handle it with passing the ATTRS{removable} as $2
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| 22:28 | At that point, it's an all or nothing proposition.
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| 22:28 | <vagrantc> i don't know how common it really is, but i wouldn't be surprised if people do dual-boot setups with LTSP as one option
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| 22:28 | (or $3)
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| 22:29 | <sbalneav> Although, I'd suspect the BETTER way to handle it, would be to run ltspfsd as uid(nobody).
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| 22:29 | <vagrantc> then we'd have to configure all sorts of permissions for mounting devices
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| 22:29 | <sbalneav> Yep.
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| 22:29 | But we're eventually going to have to head down that road for local apps anyway.
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| 22:30 | However, we'll deal with that one later.
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| 22:30 | I've got my hands full with ldm2, so the quick-n-dirty will be to twig off the removable attr.
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| 22:31 | and have an "ONLY_REMOVABLE" or something var
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| 22:31 | <vagrantc> sounds good to me
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| 22:31 | pwd
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| 22:31 | ls
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| 22:31 | gah.
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| 22:31 | <sbalneav> cat /etc/shadow
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| 22:32 | dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 :)
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| 22:32 | Who wants to tackle that one? You want to take a stab at it?
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| 22:33 | The hard disk thing, not the dd command :)
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| 22:33 | * vagrantc gets on a train tomorrow | |
| 22:33 | <sbalneav> lol
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| 22:33 | <vagrantc> but maybe i'll whip something together in the next couple hours
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| 22:33 | <sbalneav> Man, you are one guy who LIVES UP to his name :)
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| 22:33 | <vagrantc> i promised an upload
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| 22:37 | <Lumiere> touch 'upload'
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| 22:37 | scp upload wherever:
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| 22:51 | <thyaguvinny> hi dudes
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| 22:51 | :D
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| 22:52 | <sbalneav> Hello
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| 22:52 | <thyaguvinny> is this a brazillian channel?
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| 22:52 | <sbalneav> No, this is the english one.
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| 22:52 | <thyaguvinny> oh...
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| 22:52 | <sbalneav> Try #ltsp-br
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| 22:53 | <thyaguvinny> thanks... but just one thing...
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| 22:53 | anyone has any kind of documentation of implementing ltsp over mandriva?
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| 22:55 | <sbalneav> Well, you can try installing one of the ltsp5 tarballs
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| 22:55 | it should give you basic functionality.
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| 22:55 | <thyaguvinny> mmm
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| 22:56 | <vagrantc> thyaguvinny: or do you mean actually doing the work of implementing ltsp on mandriva ?
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| 22:56 | <thyaguvinny> i'm still studying that software... like an overview... i think this week i'll go through the installation
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| 22:56 | :D
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| 22:57 | i'm colecting lots of guides, tutorials and the official documentation... i hope not to be so hard...
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| 23:07 | [vagrantc]: yes... i mean implementing on mandriva...
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| 23:07 | [vagrantc]: do u have something?
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| 23:07 | <vagrantc> !integration
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| 23:07 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "integration" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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| 23:08 | <thyaguvinny> nops
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| 23:08 | not an integration...
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| 23:08 | <vagrantc> !tarball
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| 23:08 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 23:08 | <thyaguvinny> like an overview installation with particular folders and paths of this distribution... (and possible problems too)
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| 23:09 | [vagrantc]: no a tarball dude
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| 23:09 | :)
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| 23:09 | i would love to find an rpm
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| 23:16 | <sbalneav> No one's done a port of LTSP5 to Mandriva yet.
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| 23:19 | Night, all
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| 23:27 | <thyaguvinny> night
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| 23:27 | see u later
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| 23:27 | dudes
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| 23:27 | :D
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