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alkisg: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 0 days, 20 hours, 42 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <sbalneav> No "process" magic.
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yes.. i need to talk to him too alkisg ..
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hi all. :)
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lxde looks to be the first distro to support LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION http://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=lxde/lxsession;a=commit;h=d2508534100fddbac931fa60e3b989ae54ddf147
distro ... desktop environment. heh.
stgraber: any plans to incorporate the last few patches in ltsp-trunk in ubuntu? or is ubuntu not affected by the problem?
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|14:40||* Gadi grumbles about how horribly broken rdesktop is ....|
good thing you're our resident expert! :)
I know, I know - u could care less
Im not talking about ltsp's screen scripts - Im talking about things like seamlessrdp
that are supposed to work but don't
well, it actually seems like a common use-case for ltsp... as bizarre as it may be. so it is important.
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well, rdesktop keeps falling behind features introduced by newer versions of rdp, too
so, it just makes things more broken as time goes on
right, which is part of the difficulty keeping up with an intentionally moving target
hehe - not like the various OSS projects keep up with each other
well, that's unintentionally moving targets
well, with seamlessRDP broken, on to find a planB for launching windows apps from a WTS as an icon on a Linux desktop....
oh Gadi.... those sbs things finally arrived at Guadalinex R and D
4 months late, but they are there now
ur kidding me
how would one go about testing the control panel aspect of them if there is such a thing
well, has the opportunity past by us already?
heh, I had one sent to me personally so I can make sure it actually gets tested
no not at all
they are just a but clueless as to what to do with them
So I need to write up a report about how they can fit in their existing infrastructure
do you have them now or are they on their way to your place?
also, I'll make sure one of them makes its way up to Linex in extremadura, where they already have existing ltsp on all their servers and are much more likely to make a deal quickly with ya
nope, I have one right here... looking at it right now, nice printing :-) and logo
some newfandangled thin-client?
vagrantc: Symbiont Boot Stick
I started it up and saw the various options but of course, without a server to control/set them up in some way they seem quite useless
nubae_: nah - its all self-contained
it should boot up to a configuration wizard
ok, tell me mor
or show me the way to the yellow brick road
hmmm, I say no config wizard.... but I booted straight from the stick on a laptop
should I be putting it in an already linux installed machine?
no - just boot from USB
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ok, I shall try again, and since u are around iI'll ask questions as it boots
if thats ok
sure - do you want to priv msg me?
its a bit off topic from #ltsp
can somebody tell me what would be the cause of a message which says "unable to mount /cow"? It seems to result in LDM not coming up on clients.
_UsUrPeR_: is that the only mount it cannot mount?
_UsUrPeR_: well, /cow and /rofs are merged together to create / using aufs ... /cow is the coyp-on-write part of it
gadi/vagrantc: I'm going to install openssh-server on a client to get to the bottom of this
_UsUrPeR_: that may be too late
_UsUrPeR_: is that the only mount error?
it's weird. This is an intermittant occurence
this happens about 50% of the time
the other half of the time, the clients boot properly
to an LDM screen
crazy people and their crazy broken setups
you got me. I'm totally crazy ;)
_UsUrPeR_: if that is the only error you get, then it is a problem in initramfs. If it is the unharmful mountall errors, then it is not the source of ur problem
Gadi: ok. I'm rebuilding right now with openssh-server on the client so I can take a look at it's logs
_UsUrPeR_: if the prob is ini initramfs, ssh will not be running yet
it seems to be getting to a login prompt. just no LDM
do you drop to an initrmafs shell?
then, it may be the mountall issue
that isnt really an issue
Yey! vinagre finally got reverse connection support! Now if only vino-server got a -connect parameter, we could help people behind firewalls without installing anything...
Uh, not much hope there, it's been filed since 2006... :-/ https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389646
2006 seems to be the hey day for OSS developers actually fixing and testing for bugs
I think by 2007, they were all on to other projects
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Gadi / vagrantc: ok, here's the errors being received on the client when it fails to boot: http://pastebin.com/66jaZzpH
like I said, it's strangely intermittant
also, I can't seem to pull up a shell even though I have screen_02 = shell
it just gives me a blank screen with the blinking curser
Gadi: I was mistaken, it's not getting to a login prompt
Gadi: which you said is a problem with initramfs?
_UsUrPeR_: those errors are all mountall errors which can be ignored
mountall had an issue where it produced those errors if /etc/mtab was a read-only symlink to /proc/mounts
we added a workaround for Ubuntu NBD connections in the latest upstream and I filed a bug with mountall
ok, that's fine
I think they may have fixed it
hmm. I am thinking this may be a network error
it's weird how it's intermittent though
Gadi: ok, removed client from switch and plugged directly into server. same issue.
any suggestions? :P
_UsUrPeR_: were you able to ssh in?
Gadi: negative. I was mistaken. there is no login prompt
it does not start SSH
it's "too early" like you had said
hmm... weird - because mountall is in the OS after the initramfs
what version of LTSP are you on?
9.10 running ltsp-server installed about 3 days ago from a normal apt-get
_UsUrPeR_: try using stgraber's ppa
Gadi: "stgraber-ppa" :: https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa
the ltsp-server version is 5.1.90-0ubuntu3 according to dpkg -l
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Hi all: I'm setting up my ubuntu 9.10 ltsp server (migrating from a 9.04 / old hardware). For the transition period, I wanted to include ssh keys and config so users could select either ltsp host (old or new).
To that end, I exported my sshkey from my old server, created /etc/ltsp/ on my new server, copied the key over, and ran ltsp-update-sshkey, but it didn't import the key to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts. Did something change, or did I mess something up?
kusznir: how are your users select either server?
Different chroots / pxelinux menus etc?
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is ubuntu's ltsp-server shipping ltsp-info yet?
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just get the hardware for that..
loomis53, that's stretching it...but if you're serious that they're not doing flash/java/etc... and your server hardware is good enough, I guess it'd be possible
i guess that's my issue. no experience to know how much processing power I need.
You'll probably want at least 2 realistically though
what was that formula...
Lns: Error: "serverspec" is not a valid command.
right, I'd rather two for redundancy. I'm just looking to see how much I could realisticly get out of a single server.
loomis53, what's the environment ?
the environment is a mix matched mess right now :)
Personally, with general web/email/office usage I wouldn't go above 50 per server, but that's just me..one server being, say, a 2x quadcore 3.0GHz Xeon w/6-8GB RAM each
and obviously at *least* one 1Gbit/sec NIC...2 or more bonded together preferably
just depends on the usage (they ALL on and being used at the same time?) and stuff like that
our file server is a novell 4.11. the end user would just be using a single low demanding shell app or lightweight web app
so you could get away with a minimal/no graphical environment almost
well 140 might not be out of the question then
given the specs i put up above
it's a call center, doing out bound market research surveys
but obviously you'll want to test and not put yourself in a situation where it's going to kill you if it doesn't work :)
i got to jet, sorry couldn't stay longer
right. if we go this route, it would probably be half the stations to start, and i'd setup a test environment before that.
np, thanks for the advice!
^^^ good idea
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Hey guys... has anybody here seen NICs that support PXE but have a hard time booting into ltsp... ?
or do all PXE enabled hardware work with ltsp?
(at least the boot part)
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Hi , I just installed Edubuntu LTSP 9.1 but my clients are not connecting 'out of the box'. Could anyone help a noobie?
provide actual info
also , this isn't a great time for support
best time is on the weekdays during european/usa business hourse
is there a mailing list?
yes.. also ltsp-discuss
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