IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 26 October 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:12 | <miks> Anyone around at the moment?
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| 00:14 | <nubae> sorta
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| 00:14 | <miks> Ha!
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| 00:14 | I'm having some trouble with a thin client booting to the wrong screen
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| 00:14 | Hyperbyte gave me some advice earlier, but I'm stuck again
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| 00:14 | It's an all-in-one machine, and it won't boot to the built-in monitor
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| 00:15 | I have an external hooked up to it, but I don't know what to do now. I ran Xrandr, and it returned the information for VGA-1 and VGA-2
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| 00:15 | But if I specify a specific VGA in the lts.conf, I just get blank screen
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| 00:15 | Any thoughts?
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| 00:20 | <nubae> well he's right tou would have to play with the xrandr settings
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| 00:20 | there might be something abotu that in thee ltsp manual
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| 00:20 | setting it in lts.conf
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| 00:21 | <miks> found that section, and added XRANDR_OUTPUT_01 = VGA1 to my file
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| 00:22 | Then it didn't show the built-in OR external monitor
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| 00:22 | <nubae> maybe vga0?
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| 00:22 | <miks> I tried that too :-(
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| 00:22 | <nubae> vga2?
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| 00:23 | <miks> When I run Xandr on the actual thin client, I get results for VGA-1 and VGA-2
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| 00:23 | But specifying either of those in the LTS results in blank screens
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| 00:23 | <nubae> ah ok.. cant u copy the xrandr results and make the lts.conf load a specific xconf
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| 00:24 | <miks> Maybe, can you point me in the right direction? I have the results saved to text
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| 00:25 | <nubae> get the desired xrandr output on the thin client, then sftp that to the server
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| 00:25 | call it blah.conf and force the thin client to load that xorg.conf file instead
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| 00:26 | <nubae> the manual should have the exact jargon
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| 00:26 | oh and u need to run X_CONF=True I believe too
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| 00:27 | vagrantc, maybe able to help u, he's an absolute LTSP genius
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| 00:27 | <miks> Vagrant - are you in Oregon?
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| 00:27 | <nubae> :p
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| 00:27 | * nubae hides | |
| 00:27 | <miks> Thanks nubae
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| 00:29 | Vagrant, I think we've met before. This is actually a machine I got from FreeGeek on a grant, so I think it's one of yours! :-)
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| 00:29 | It's a Gateway Profile 4, (all-in-one), and I can't seem to get the built-in monitor to work
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| 00:30 | <vagrantc> miks: for about 24 hours
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| 00:30 | <nubae> oh snap
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| 00:30 | <vagrantc> miks: ah, quite possible
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| 00:30 | i've actually gotta run soon, though
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| 00:30 | <miks> I think Nate introduced us
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| 00:30 | Okay
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| 00:30 | Well I'm stuck in my lab on these 3 computers, which are all Profile 4 machines
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| 00:30 | <vagrantc> sounds like you're talking about custom X configuration?
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| 00:30 | <miks> They're the last ones giving me trouble
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| 00:31 | When they boot up, they seem to want to use the external VGA port instead of the built in monitor
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| 00:31 | Built-in is just blank
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| 00:31 | <vagrantc> aha!
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| 00:31 | Gadi actually knows how to do that sort of thing
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| 00:31 | <miks> Okeedoke
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| 00:32 | <vagrantc> i think you do some xrandr magic
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| 00:32 | <miks> I have my Xorg.0.log and xrandr results, I just don't know what to do with them
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| 00:33 | <vagrantc> me neither
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| 00:33 | <nubae> put them somewhere on the thin client
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| 00:33 | then point to them from lts.conf
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| 00:33 | its in the manual
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| 00:33 | had that issue long time ago when a partcular monitor wasnt supported by ltsp but was by ubuntu
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| 00:34 | so pointed directly to the xorg.conf
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| 00:34 | <miks> I can't seem to get the internal monitor working in order to get the custom Xorg
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| 00:35 | I guess I somehow need to have X configure itself for the built-in monitor, and then use that information, but I'm at a loss as to how to do that.... :-(
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| 00:38 | <nubae> well do it with another computer for example
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| 00:39 | <miks> Just run Xorg -configure?
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| 00:41 | <nubae> i guess its beeen years since i needed to do that
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| 01:59 | <highvoltage> mgariepy: do we have a list of the people we need to get at the airport?
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| 02:00 | (just so that we don't miss anyone)
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| 02:01 | ok seems like it's Peter, Jim and Oli
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| 02:02 | mgariepy: do you know if they have our numbers?
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| 02:39 | <mistik1> wish you guys much fun this this, say Hi to Dave for me:)
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| 02:40 | s/this this/this year/
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| 02:41 | Next year BTS must be in Jamaica so I can attend, plus it will be lots of fun :)
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| 02:41 | I'd make sure of that
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| 03:04 | <stgraber> highvoltage: ogra_ has my cell number in the company directory, I also gave my cell number to Jim and maybe pscheie also has my cell number, not sure
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| 03:05 | highvoltage: I'll make sure I have the phone numbers for everyone and flight numbers
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| 11:53 | <highvoltage> stgraber: great
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| 12:03 | <ogra_> i not only have it in the directory, i even have his number in my phone ;)
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| 12:04 | according to my flight data i will arrive at 17:23
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| 12:05 | so i would need a lift around 6pm
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| 12:32 | <pscheie> stgraber, I don't have your phone number (or at least, it's not in my phone)
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| 12:33 | <highvoltage> pscheie: want my number too just in case?
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| 12:33 | <pscheie> highvoltage, yes
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| 12:33 | <highvoltage> pscheie: +1 819 446 5899
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| 12:36 | <pscheie> Got it. For the record, mine is 1 612 221 8273
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| 12:37 | I told mgariepy that might flight # is 5992, arriving from NY at 4:13pm.
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| 12:38 | s/might/my/
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| 12:39 | <highvoltage> ok, I think we'll be arriving around 5'ish
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| 12:39 | * highvoltage goes to the kitchen to get some coffee and talk to mgariepy | |
| 12:43 | <veloutin> nice, I got highvoltage's number now!
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| 12:47 | <ogra_> blog it !
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| 12:47 | "free phone sex under: ...."
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| 12:47 | *g*
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| 12:56 | <veloutin> nah I don't want to be blacklisted from his place
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| 13:12 | <highvoltage> veloutin: too late!I already don't answer your calls because you hide your number :p
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| 13:26 | * veloutin throws a grape at highvoltage | |
| 13:27 | <highvoltage> lies!
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| 13:27 | <veloutin> careful
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| 13:28 | I don't want to make a mess :\
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| 13:28 | I'm pretty sure it will explode if I throw it
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| 13:30 | <ogra_> throw it in slow motion then :)
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| 13:31 | * Hyperbyte stalks highvoltage | |
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| 13:33 | <Hyperbyte> Andy! :)
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| 13:36 | <andygraybeal> hi Hyperbyte :)
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| 13:44 | <andygraybeal> i'm hoping to get in contact with a POS developer today.
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| 13:44 | our POS is 10 yrs old and it's the devil.
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| 13:44 | i want to replace it.
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| 13:44 | what are you up to today?
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| 13:50 | <Hyperbyte> POS = ?
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| 13:50 | Hey Alkis, buddy!
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> Hey Hyperbyte :)
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> How's everything?
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| 13:52 | <Hyperbyte> I'm okay
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| 13:53 | Bit groggy today, fever'ish.
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| 13:54 | <xsl> hello all, is it possible to have an application on the LTSP-IMAGE (client computer) like teamviewer so i can see help other users?
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> Sure, italc, epoptes, plain vnc, or even teamviewer will do
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| 13:55 | !epoptes
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| 13:55 | <ltsp> alkisg: epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu (and hopefully Debian) based LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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| 14:09 | <xsl> tyvm
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| 14:11 | <andygraybeal> Hyperbyte, POS = point of sale; the cash register at the restaurant.
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| 14:13 | wow, is epoptes new? i remember italc was kind of sketchy
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| 14:13 | i'll loook it up
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| 14:14 | <andygraybeal> looks new, from september 2011
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| 14:14 | aajh ot
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| 14:15 | ahhh.. it's based on software by alkisg :)))) yay.
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| 15:15 | <xsl> how can i connect to the clients session and do some sort of remote control ( with the users acknowledge - i dont want a way to just watch with the user not knowing)
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> Tell the user to enable remote desktop from his preferences
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| 15:20 | <xsl> can that be donne to all users with gconf?
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| 15:21 | and what do i use to connect to it?
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| 15:21 | <alkisg> You use the vinagre client
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| 15:21 | You can do it with gconf too, sure
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| 15:25 | <xsl> i believe this will be better than using teamviewer like we talked before
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| 15:25 | the tools are already there
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| 15:25 | ty for your help
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> The main problem is that you don't know the client port
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| 15:26 | You'll need a small wrapper script for that
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| 15:26 | (as all client are on the server, so vino-server selects a random port not in use)
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| 15:26 | <xsl> yeah but that i can manage with no big effort
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| 15:27 | a combination of 'who' and netstat with some grep
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> Or just "avahi-browse"
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| 21:16 | <mgariepy> see you in SW harbor tomorrow guys
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| 21:17 | <pscheie> Yes, time to head home & pack. See you all at BTS!
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