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!ltsp.conf | echo jgee
jgee ltsp.conf: Configuration file for LTSP: https://ltsp.org/man/ltsp.conf/
You need a custom xorg.conf atm, see the X_* parameters there
jgee: it's probably worth it to add it though, so maybe file a bug report about that
Hmm although... xoptions can be snippets new in new xorg, they don't need to reside inside a xorg.conf, so it's probably best to use a POST_INIT command instead
In some cases noaccel can also be passed as KERNEL_PARAMETERS, e.g. nouveau.noaccel=1
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alksig: it worked with the symbolic link to xorg.conf as documented. I'll try the snippets next. Didn't know about the kernel parameters, worth a try as well
jgee: which card, intel, nouveau?
I do not know about 'thin', but I do know about these similar topics: 'thin-client-deprecation', 'thin-clients-bandwidth'
thin-client-deprecation: The new LTSP doesn't support thin clients (remote Xorg), but it does support low-spec netbooted clients with remote desktop (xfreerdp, x2go etc). Read more in https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues/32
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alkisg: it is AMD. You're right, these are HP Thinclients, although we'll only update to new LTSP on those who can work as fat. Still looking for reliable hardware platform and supplier to replace our HPs.
I think you had a space before it
I'll have to revisit these Beelinks. Last time I tried we had trouble booting them from UEFI I think. The new ipxe should change the process, I think
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we are using epoptes on a debian 10 xfce system, fat client install. I can broadcast to screens, so the installation seems to be okay. However I can not send a message to the clients. Somebody knows what's wrong, maybe a missing package?
fred85: are you using the epoptes stable ppa?
the one from debian 10 repo
I uploaded some related fixes; please test using the epoptes stable ppa
Both on the server and in the chroot
(if you have a chroot)
no we do not have a chroot
OK, then add ppa, run apt full-upgrade, and ltsp update image
We have "normal" fat-clients, so I guess I do not need ltsp update image?
Old or new ltsp?
When you say fat clients, do you mean standalone clients without ltsp?
OK, in the #ltsp channel we call those standalone, while fats are netbooted and diskless :D
OK then you need to do the update on each client
Okay, I can do that. Thanks!
Another question, maybe: I remember years ago I got a thumbnail preview of the clients. Now, I do not have it anymore
Is this feature still there?
A missing dependency; this one should also be fixed by the update
ah, okay. Know what dependency?
You should see python-cairo something getting installed with the update
okay, i will also try. Thanks!
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Is there any elegant way to get around the (apparently hardcoded?) default IP of 192.168.67.1 for dual-NIC autoconfiguration of dnsmasq?
mheath_: no, the idea was that it would also be a fallback for the clients, which cannot locate a global server config file etc
E.g. "I cannot contact a dhcp server at all; let's connect to 192.168.67.1"
Where would the client get their IP then?
They could boot from local kernel / initrd, without ip
If it's the "internal ltsp subnet", why does it hurt to have it hardcoded? Do you have the external subnet at 67?
alkisg: My (work in progress) terminal server is a two NIC setup, but it's connected to a large and somewhat complex server where the 192.168.67.* subnet is already in use.
I'd like to maintain access to that without a bunch of messy NATing.
Haha, tell them that 67 is the sum of L+T+S+P, they cannot have it :D
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(in a more serious tone, this is of course a valid issue, you may file it in the issue tracker)
I do not know about 'ltsp-bug', but I do know about these similar topics: 'ltsp-nfs'
I do not know about 'issue', but I do know about these similar topics: 'community-issues', 'ltsp-issues'
ltsp-issues: https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/issues is where you file bug reports or feature requests that can be addressed from the LTSP code base. See also !community-issues for more general LTSP questions or discussions
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Please, people. I am search some model (not to expansive but good) processor. Mini pc I5 4200Y dual core ddr3 4 GB RAM can be good for client?
atom and celeron not good yeah?
What's the cpubenchmark.net score?
douglas_br: you google it and you reach https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4200Y+%40+1.40GHz&id=2101
This shows score 2399
The last one you proposed had 5000?
So the last one was 2 times faster
It's just cpubenchmark.net and simple math...
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it also depends on what you want the client to do
alkisg What's the cpubenchmark.net score? ahhh rigth, I did not remember this site
||cw it will use for office use
text processor, banks, youtube, skype, e-mail
and? I have office users that a 4th gen i5 would be fine, and and ones that it most certainly is not fine
not games, not edit movies, not design
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||cw 4th gen? I did see nice price i7 4th gen
i5 4200 is 4th gen. we're on 9th gen now.
alkisg what is your option specs from minimun Average CPU Mark for office (text, youtube, email, skype only)
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||cw17:02:01i5 4200 is 4th gen. we're on 9th gen now.so.....this is not so good
put money in trash maybe
4th gen would still do all those things just fine. I have a 4th gen i7 at home that I still use
it's just... old
I have a bunch of celeron J4005s for mostly web... gmail/drive... some libre office... they work fine
I have fear to buy celeron J* . ....
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they work fine for us
have them in both these boxnucs, and a few gigabyte brix miniPCs
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the intel i3s are also solid
not sure what the difference between the i3 & i5 is now-a-days, since you have dual core i5s?
used to be the i3 was dual core w/ hyper threading... and the i5 was 4 core, no HT
probably all marketing these days ;)
douglas_br: how many years do you want to keep them?
at least 4, 5 years
I'd go for 3000+ cpubenchmark score and 4 RAM but after 3 years I'd increase the ram to 8 GB
mwalters I agree
alkisg ahh right yes
I still have j1900s kicking around, w/ 8gb of memory
but we're not compute heavy
right, I have compute heavy users and ones that aren't. and ones that's worth extra $$ to have a snappier system and ones that it isn't. also listing app you use doesn't tell us a thing about the workload
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||cw I think the workload in Office is not hard, do not need top hardware config, but something can a good job, without pain use.
* can do
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people, thanks for the infos and help
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