IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 August 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:27 | <thafreak> what's the best room to ask about ubuntu's ltsp implementation?
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| 01:27 | i'm trying to use lts.conf and no idea where it's supposed to be.
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| 05:24 | <knipwim> curiosity landing on mars in 7 minutes
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| 05:33 | <alkisg> Landed :)
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| 06:34 | <elias_a> What are we going to do now if curiosity has been sent to Mars? :O
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| 06:35 | <knipwim> at least it won't kill cats here on earth :)
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| 07:40 | <elias_a> Oh noes.
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| 07:40 | I guess I have to catch and terminate cats in that case...
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| 10:38 | <mrcarrot> With ltsp running on debian, how do I get sound if I am running Iceweasel locally on the client (sound from flash)?
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| 10:38 | I have the sound working for Iceweasel running on the server.
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| 11:22 | <mrcarrot> After much searching I found I could run ltsp-localapps
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| 11:22 | After much searching I found I could run ltsp-localapps pasuspender iceweasel
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| 11:22 | But the sound is lagging terrible...
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| 11:24 | In this case it is very important to get this to work, as otherwise the computers will be replaced with windows. The requirement is to be able to play fullscreen movies in classroom. By doing it through the server, it makes everything to lag as the network is too slow, and a few such classrooms will also max out the processors.
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| 11:24 | The only solution is to get it to work directly on the client...
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| 11:25 | vlc will not work with pasuspender, unless I start up vlc with iceweasel playing something, then close iceweasel.
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| 11:26 | pasuspender & Co belongs to the crap of pulse-audio that has no man-page.
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| 11:40 | <mrcarrot> To say it honestly, I do not even notice any performance boost by running it locally...
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| 11:51 | <alkisg> mrcarrot: manpages.ubuntu.com/pasuspender
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| 11:52 | You shouldn't need it though, in Ubuntu localapps cooperate with pulse correctly
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| 11:52 | See also padsp
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| 11:52 | <mrcarrot> This is Debian...
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| 11:54 | "ltsp-localeapps padsp iceweasel" is not working at least
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| 12:01 | This is so frustrating! If it is fixed in ubuntu, why can not debian fix it. This problem should clearly be considered as a bug!
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| 12:02 | The whole purpose of local-apps is to take away the load from the server, and nothing is causing as much load as multimedia. Multimedia involves sound...
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| 12:02 | <alkisg> There's also "LTSP fat clients", which are sometimes less of a headache
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| 12:03 | File a bug in debian in order to fix the pulseaudio settings so that they better cooperate with alsa apps
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| 12:04 | <mrcarrot> alkisg: Will LTSP fat clients use the same home folder as the thin clients?
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| 12:06 | And the same username/password (authenticating against the server)
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| 12:08 | <alkisg> mrcarrot: yes
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| 12:08 | !fatclients
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| 12:08 | <ltsp`> alkisg: fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 12:08 | <alkisg> (it's about the same in debian as well)
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| 12:09 | Are your clients good enough for fats?
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| 12:10 | (debian wheezy, I hope... or at least ltsp backports)
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| 12:13 | <mrcarrot> alkisg: There where multimedia is required, they are.
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| 12:13 | <alkisg> Cool, with the same fat chroot you can serve thin clients as well
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| 12:13 | <mrcarrot> alkisg: There are a few clients that are not good enough for multimedia, so both FC and TC would be needed in this case.
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> mrcarrot: btw, just as a test, if you put SOUND=false in lts.conf to completely disable pulseaudio, does the local sound then work without lags?
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| 12:15 | (you'll have no remote sound at all while testing this)
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| 12:24 | <mrcarrot> Yes, it is working with SOUND=False.
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| 12:25 | Any help to solve this without having to set up fat clients would be really appreciated. There is a huge work with fat clients, as I would then need to specify each computer in some way as either thin client or fat client plus setting up all the programs and such for the fat clients to.
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> mrcarrot: I'd try that in Ubuntu, as I think it works there, and if it indeed does, I'd compare the pulseaudio/alsa configuration to that of Debian (and after that, I'd file bug reports to have the default configuration changed)
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| 14:36 | <mrcarrot> alkisg: You where away while I tried with sound=false. That got the sound to work without any wrapper
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| 14:36 | <alkisg> Yeah, saw it in the logs
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| 14:37 | <mrcarrot> Ah, ok
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| 14:58 | <jammcq> ogra_: cool article on panda usb booting
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| 14:58 | <ogra_> heh, thx :)
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| 14:59 | <jammcq> were you in lexington kentucky?
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| 14:59 | <ogra_> boston
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| 14:59 | <jammcq> ah
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| 14:59 | <ogra_> the oem part of canonical sits there
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| 14:59 | (and now also the QA lab)
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| 15:00 | <jammcq> hmmmm, wanna visit them again in early october?
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| 15:00 | <ogra_> haha
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| 15:00 | i would love to ... but if i didnt screw up they wont need me there
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| 15:01 | <alkisg> OK, so the solution is easy, just screw up :P
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| 15:02 | <ogra_> alkisg, to late ... damned, i didnt think about it when building the system
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| 15:02 | i should have added a timer that makes it fail at the right time
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| 15:02 | <stgraber> hehe, just have to make sure all the ARM testing blows up a month before BTS ;)
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| 15:02 | <ogra_> yeah
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| 15:59 | <bieb> I know this isnt an ltsp issue.. just wondering if anyone else has come across it.. I have also posted in #ubuntu with no success.. I have an ubuntu 10.10 server.. when I rdesktop into it anytime I type a "d" it minimizes the application on the server.. ie.. I have a console open and type sudo.. as soon as the d is typed, the console window minimizes. Any idea where I can shut this behavior off?
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| 16:02 | <cliebow> jammcq: how goes the battle?
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| 16:02 | <jocarter> good morning everyone
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| 16:03 | <cliebow> hiho!
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| 16:16 | <vmlintu> morning
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| 16:28 | <jammcq> cliebow: HEY
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| 16:31 | * jocarter is seriously looking forward to the LTSP holiday^Whackfest | |
| 16:53 | <vmlintu> is there a hackfest coming up?
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| 16:54 | <jocarter> vmlintu: I believe there will be a by-the-sea again this year :)
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| 17:15 | <cliebow> jocarter: up in my neck of the woods?
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| 17:15 | <jocarter> cliebow: where else! :)
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| 17:16 | <cliebow> hehe..we had on e in San Francisco onme yesar?!
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| 17:16 | crap
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| 17:16 | * jocarter could still understand | |
| 17:16 | <jocarter> that must've been way before my time though
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| 17:17 | <cliebow> i cant even remember now..senior moment..
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| 17:17 | 2007 or so maybe?
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| 17:50 | <ogra_> 2007 sounds right
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| 17:50 | * ogra_ remembers being there a few days early and having MS announce the cooperation with SuSE | |
| 17:50 | <ogra_> right on my first day
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| 17:51 | <cliebow> right..i know you were there early
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| 18:08 | <vmlintu> has anyone played with libpam-sshauth and libnss-sshsock?
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| 18:10 | <cliebow> sounds like an sbalneav question
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| 18:12 | <vmlintu> they seem to work quite well with lighdm to replace ldm, but there are still some things that would need work..
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| 18:13 | sbalneav hasn't been much around lately..
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| 18:15 | <cliebow> yeah i know...when he is here he is loaded for bear!
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| 18:16 | <jammcq> cliebow: hey
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| 18:16 | <cliebow> hey!
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| 18:16 | <jammcq> so yeah, BTS starts oct 4
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| 18:16 | <cliebow> i m kind of rusty..didnt see your link for a while
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| 18:16 | <jammcq> it's a bit earlier this year to work around Ubuntu's UDS schedule
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| 18:17 | <cliebow> sure..works for me..though io have to cover the boat some then
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| 18:17 | <jammcq> sure
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| 18:17 | still in season at that point, eh?
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| 18:17 | <cliebow> til after columbus day
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| 18:17 | <jammcq> we should have the usual suspects
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| 18:17 | ragnar says he'll try and make it
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| 18:17 | gadi is in
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| 18:18 | dtrask says YES
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| 18:18 | <cliebow> hahah..i see jon carter is psyched
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| 18:18 | Scottie
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| 18:18 | <jammcq> yeah, we'll get the blogger formerly known as highvoltage :)
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| 18:18 | and Scotty will certainly be there
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| 18:18 | <cliebow> hreh
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| 18:18 | <jammcq> it wouldn't be BTS without scotty
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| 18:19 | we just have to push ogra bit
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| 18:19 | <cliebow> i know..
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| 18:19 | <jammcq> oh, and eHarrison says he'll try and make it
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| 18:19 | * cliebow cl iebow pushes ogra | |
| 18:19 | <cliebow> Wow..that would be cool
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| 18:20 | <jammcq> we'll have a special guest this year too... Maddog is coming
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| 18:20 | I'll pick him up at his house in NH and bring him along
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| 18:20 | he'll be good for telling some stories
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| 18:21 | <cliebow> i havnt met Him properly..assuming there IS a way to meet him properly
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| 18:21 | <jammcq> he's always been a big fan of LTSP
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| 18:21 | he usually mentions us in his keynote speeches
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| 18:21 | <cliebow> yes..wish my higher ups were..
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| 18:21 | big fans
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| 18:22 | we just keep getting sucked deeper into apple
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| 18:22 | <jammcq> that's better than MS isn't it?
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| 18:22 | <cliebow> oh yes..at least there is some scripting under it all
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| 18:23 | under all the fluff
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| 18:34 | <jocarter> jammcq: maddog? really!?
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| 18:34 | jammcq: awesome.
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| 18:36 | <elias_a> jammcq: Where is he coming?
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| 18:36 | <mgariepy> hey somebody have new about Gadi, it's been a while since he last show up here.
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| 18:37 | <stgraber> jammcq: oh, will be nice, has been a while since I last saw him around, might have been as far back as the Boston UDS
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| 18:37 | <elias_a> Would be nice to see him.
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| 18:37 | Where is the event going to be held?
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| 18:37 | * jocarter last saw him in Johannesburg in 2006 or something like that | |
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| 18:39 | <elias_a> It is sad that I have no travelling money in my project. It would be nice to travel to Joburg to meet him :D
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| 18:46 | <jammcq> elias_a: in South West Harbor, Maine
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| 18:47 | elias_a: wanna come?
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| 18:47 | mgariepy: Gadi has a new job. he didn't tell me the details yet but said he'd share some stories at bts
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| 18:48 | <vmlintu> jocarter: going to uds?
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| 18:48 | <mgariepy> jammcq, ok cool.
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| 18:48 | <jocarter> vmlintu: I'm unsure, but there is a possibility, it depends on my workload
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| 18:50 | wow look how young we were back then. http://photos.jonathancarter.org/v/drinks_maddog/newscafe_jons.jpg.html
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| 18:50 | <vmlintu> wow
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| 18:51 | <jammcq> jocarter: where was that photo?
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| 18:51 | <jocarter> jammcq: that was at Moyo in Johannesburg
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| 18:51 | <jammcq> ah
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| 18:51 | cool
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| 19:09 | <cliebow> jocarter..who was the other Jonathan?
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| 19:13 | <jocarter> cliebow: Jonathan Hitchcock
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| 19:18 | <cliebow> ahhh ok
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| 19:25 | <elias_a> jammcq: Sorry, no.
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| 19:26 | cliebow: Have no money for that and my relationship to US is... hmm... tricky ;-)
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| 19:29 | <cliebow> too bad...
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| 19:30 | elias_a, where are you from?
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| 19:33 | <elias_a> cliebow: Finland.
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| 19:44 | <vmlintu> elias_a: how's everything these days?
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| 19:46 | <elias_a> vmlintu: Quite fine, thx.
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| 19:46 | Working this week and then off for a paternity month :)
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| 19:46 | Just had my summer holiday ;-)
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| 19:46 | vmlintu: And you?
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| 19:46 | <vmlintu> congrats!
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| 19:46 | <elias_a> Any vacation this summer ;-)
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| 19:46 | ?
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| 19:47 | <vmlintu> just had a month off, now back to work.. schools are starting again in a few weeks
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| 19:47 | <elias_a> vmlintu: Now, be honest with us... have you had a vacation? :D
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| 19:48 | vmlintu: Just teasing :)
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| 19:48 | <vmlintu> I try to have my share of it ;)
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| 19:50 | <elias_a> vmlintu: Are they trying to snatch your vacation? :O
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| 19:51 | huh?
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| 19:51 | <muppis> Spacespam?
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| 19:52 | <cliebow> i take two days a week off all summer si i am at school three days..and run a poassenger boat three days..take Sunday off
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| 19:55 | <vmlintu> elias_a: no.. not any more.. used to be more hectic during the summers before
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| 19:57 | <elias_a> vmlintu: Good. Too much speed might be unproductive and hazardous to health ;-)
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| 20:05 | <cliebow> til tomorrow..May you dream of large women!
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| 20:15 | <markit> hi alkisg :) Yesteraday I asked you about moving accounts in a different system, I forgot that the main problem for me is keep the user's passwords! I can't regenerate users in the new system since I ignore their passwords
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| 20:15 | <alkisg> markit: you can get the password hashes from the old /etc/shadow, and add them with useradd
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| 20:16 | That's what we do in sch-scripts, we save the hashes in the exported-users.csv
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| 20:16 | ...we also have an "import from passwd/shadow" menu
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| 20:17 | <markit> great, did not know about this feature of GNU!
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| 20:17 | alkisg: you are so helpful and know so much...
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| 20:18 | <alkisg> Hehe, thanks, but I only know the things I already needed + searched for how to do them :)
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| 20:20 | <markit> I forget a lot of stuff, and often my knowledge is acquired so slowly that is really depressing
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| 20:20 | (i.e. to properly set KDE was a nightmare)
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| 20:20 | I will experiment a little and report back, thanks :)
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| 20:20 | <alkisg> I don't think that's your fault, getting Ubuntu to fit in our classrooms was somewhat of a nightmare too :)
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| 20:21 | <markit> oh, I feel much better now :)
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| 20:21 | <alkisg> We had to use bindfs just to have shared folders between students!
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| 20:21 | <markit> yep, I was not able to belive such a problem could even exist in a OS that was multiuser since day one
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| 20:22 | also had problems that I solved with ACL just to discover that... there had other problems ACL did not solve :(
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| 20:23 | <alkisg> Yeah, when I checked ACLs I saw that it couldn't solve our problem, so it was either some fat file system or bindfs
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| 20:23 | * alkisg would hate to have to use an MS file system just for shared folders | |
| 20:23 | <markit> YEP!
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| 20:24 | I wanted also a dir wher teacher could put files that no student can modify or delete...
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| 20:24 | <alkisg> That's the easy part
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| 20:24 | <markit> lol
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| 20:24 | <alkisg> We have a student login script that creates symlinks to teacher shared folders
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| 20:25 | ...and also symlinks to the student rw shared folders, one per class (group)
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| 20:25 | <markit> I've never cosidered login scripts... but I should start I suppose
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| 20:25 | <alkisg> So each student automatically sees the rw folders for all the groups he's in, and all the ro folders for the teachers who teach him
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| 20:26 | * markit takes note | |
| 20:26 | <alkisg> We also provide a GUi in sch-scripts for the sysadmin to mass create users, groups, teachers, import them from .csv or other sources, etc
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| 20:26 | It's very strange that no such tool existed
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| 20:27 | <markit> yes, unfortunatly my teachers are not IT expert, so a "csv" is something very difficoult for them
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| 20:27 | this show a light about the really low level of average user
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| 20:28 | and things are going from bad to worse, lol
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| 20:28 | <alkisg> In greece they have a tool called "epafos", where the secretary enters the teacher + student information
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| 20:28 | We also support retreiving the user list from the exported file that epafos creates
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| 20:29 | The .csv is usually not created manually, it's either exported by epafos, by sch-scripts (e.g. for 10.04 => 12.04 upgrade), or from a webmail interface that students have
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| 20:29 | (all students get username@sch.gr emails, and there's an export function for schools there)
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| 20:29 | <markit> in italy we have "sissy", and I could try to import from it
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| 20:29 | the problem is that export and import is beyond their skills
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| 20:30 | <alkisg> You can automate it with curl
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| 20:30 | Enter username/password => and your script automatically retrieves it
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| 20:30 | Or, if it's not a web app, 'enter the path to the db'
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| 20:31 | <markit> how is "username" create unique? just a code?
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| 20:31 | I've usernamens that are formed with student's name
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| 20:31 | <alkisg> For username@sch.gr, it's something like gmail, they notify them on creation
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| 20:31 | For local accounts, we try to combine firstname + surname
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| 20:31 | <markit> because then teacher can recognize the student folder easely
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| 20:31 | <alkisg> (and transilerate from greek to latin)
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| 20:31 | <markit> I see
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| 20:32 | btw, a friend of mine told me that edubuntu shows the epoptes name somewhere in the installations
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| 20:32 | <alkisg> We also offer a "signup request" form, in cases where it's helpful
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| 20:32 | Yup, jocarter put it there afaik :)
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| 20:34 | <jocarter> yep :)
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| 20:34 | <alkisg> ty! ;)
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| 20:35 | <markit> well done jocarter
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| 20:38 | <jocarter> well, I really need to do some updates to the edubuntu slideshow before it's too late...
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