IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 10 October 2012 (all times are UTC)
| 00:11 | <highvoltage> mgariepy: around?
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| 01:32 | <Guest13084> Does anyone know if you can do a ltsp-build-client from a local repository that doesn't have the same structure as the normal ubuntu ones?
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| 01:46 | <highvoltage> gu<tab>
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| 10:38 | <ltspuser_17> I need to know if it's possible to have a different filesystems and tftpboots?
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| 10:39 | I have different thin clients and they need different kernels...
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| 10:39 | so I need to have a different filesystem and tftpboot for each one...
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| 10:39 | I'm using ubuntu 12.04
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| 10:40 | and with this scenario if I use the command ltsp-update-image which image would be updated?
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| 10:46 | <alkisg> Yes, it's possible. What kernels do you need?
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| 10:47 | <ltspuser_17> I have the kernels...
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| 10:47 | I only need to know where should I put all the files in ubuntu..
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| 10:47 | which path, and how I can specify the image to update... etc
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> Is the filesystem compatible with the client you want to boot?
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| 10:49 | E.g. if you have a client that doesn't support "cmov", and you have a kernel without "cmov", the client still don't be able to boot, since the programs will need support for "cmov".
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| 10:49 | <ltspuser_17> yes I think so...
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| 10:49 | The machine doesn't boot.... stays on the step etho; link up....
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> So I think you should say more about what kernels do you need and where did you get them
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| 10:49 | <ltspuser_17> and this message appears over and over...
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| 10:50 | I compile the kernel that I needed...
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| 10:50 | is for a terminal with geode....
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> OK, if you think that's your only problem, just put it in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/vmlinuz, overwriting the one there, and see if the client boots
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| 10:50 | <ltspuser_17> yes...
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| 10:50 | I have checked that
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| 10:51 | and is not booting
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> So I was correct in saying that's not your only problem :)
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| 10:51 | <ltspuser_17> but with the other terminal is booting with the olde image
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| 10:51 | so I don't want to change that filesystem
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| 10:51 | and I need to have 2 at the same time
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> Oh, you're the guy with the "filesystems" :)
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| 10:51 | <ltspuser_17> how can I do that?
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| 10:52 | yes :D
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> I agree with Hyperbyte, you're making it too complicated
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| 10:52 | <ltspuser_17> but I have change all the scenario
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| 10:52 | now is ubuntu's the tftpboot server...
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> Install one OS and try to troubleshoot any problems, don't use 10 filesystems and 3 kernels to solve your problem :)
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| 10:53 | <ltspuser_17> I have installed 1 filesystem and 1 kernel
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| 10:53 | the original from ubutnu
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| 10:53 | ubuntu
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| 10:53 | and the terminal is not working...
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| 10:53 | how can I change the kernel if these terminal need a specific processor?
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> First thing is to find a distro that supports your terminal
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| 10:54 | Did you google about it?
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| 10:54 | E.g. they might be supported in 10.04 but not in 12.04
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| 10:54 | <ltspuser_17> It's a Lucida terminal...
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> I don't know it
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| 10:55 | <ltspuser_17> did you know them?
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> Try with google or with a usb stick
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| 10:55 | Until you find one distro that supports them
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| 10:55 | Then use that distro, done :)
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| 10:56 | <ltspuser_17> but I need to have a virtual machine with that distro too right??
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| 10:57 | this ubuntu 12.04 can't provide another filesystem with another distro?
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> It depends, find the distro/kernel/version which boots your terminal first and then you can see if you can use a different server or not
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| 10:57 | When you say "filesystem", we don't understand what you mean
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| 10:57 | <ltspuser_17> ok
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| 10:57 | but only one last question
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> Do you mean "chroot"? The network disk that is sent to the terminals?
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| 10:58 | <ltspuser_17> I don't want to change this filesystem that I am using on the other terminal
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| 10:58 | how can I put some terminals running one filesystem and the others running a different filesystem...
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> Why?
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| 10:59 | E.g. if a 10.04 or a debian wheezy chroot boots all your terminals, why do you want 2?
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| 10:59 | <ltspuser_17> but some kernels could give me support to some specific drivers
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| 10:59 | like geode
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> And that kernel would also support your other terminals
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| 11:00 | So you could use that for all
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| 11:00 | <ltspuser_17> no
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| 11:00 | because I put a specific processor...
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> In any case, you control the kernel from pxelinux.cfg
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| 11:00 | <ltspuser_17> yes...
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> You can have 10 kernels and 10 clients, and each client boot a different kernel
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| 11:01 | Check the syslinux wiki for details
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| 11:01 | <ltspuser_17> but inside /opt/ltsp i can have like i386 and teste
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 11:01 | <ltspuser_17> and this teste is the other one...
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> You can also have 10 chroots if you want
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| 11:01 | First, make the geode client boot. Then come again here to find out the LTSP-specific bits.
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| 11:01 | <ltspuser_17> but when I do ltsp-update-image? how can I provide the path?
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-image teste
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| 11:02 | <ltspuser_17> ok
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| 11:02 | let me find the kernel and distro for that terminal
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| 11:02 | thank you very much ;)
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> Right, google is your friend there
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| 11:03 | You could also ask in #ubuntu, in case someone knows those terminals
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| 11:03 | You're welcome
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| 11:12 | <ltspuser_17> I tried to ltsp-update-image and he creates an image with the two folder insisde /opt/ltsp
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| 11:12 | and only one nbd image is created...
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| 11:13 | where do I specify thar this terminal boots using i386 and the other boots using teste?
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| 11:34 | <alkisg> ltspuser_17: move away your existing image so that it's easier for you
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| 11:34 | sudo mv /opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp-for-working-clients
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| 11:34 | And put your geode image in /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 11:34 | Once you find an image that works, then ask for the ltsp bits
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| 11:38 | <ltspuser_17> ok
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| 11:38 | but only to know
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| 11:38 | it's possible to have different paths inside /opt/ltsp/i386?
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| 11:38 | and create different images for each terminal??
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| 11:39 | I think I know how to do it
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| 11:39 | you can create on the path /opt/ltsp/i386 and then cp the image to a different name
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| 11:40 | and then you only need to change in pxelinux.cfg/default the nbd image and in /etc/nbd-server
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| 11:40 | right?
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| 11:49 | <Hyperbyte> ltspuser_17, you would create a new folder in /opt/ltsp/, not in /opt/ltsp/i386/
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| 11:49 | Have a look in /opt/ltsp/. You'll see a folder "i386" and "images". Inside "images" there is i386.img
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| 11:49 | The i386.img is created with ltsp-update-image --arch=i386
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| 11:50 | If you make a new image chroot folder in /opt/ltsp/test/ for example, and run ltsp-update-image --arch=test this should take care of creating the .img file, as well as updating the nbd-server config I think.
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| 11:51 | But - like alkisg said - I'd start with getting a working image first, in /opt/ltsp/i386/ and -then- sort out the LTSP bits.
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| 12:08 | <ltspuser_17> thank you hyperbyte
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| 12:52 | <mgariepy> highvoltage, i wasn't around ;)
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| 13:10 | <gothaggis|work> hello, how do I go about preventing people from mounting USB drives on thin clients?
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| 13:30 | <Hyperbyte> !lts.conf
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| 13:30 | <ltsp> lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 13:31 | <Hyperbyte> gothaggis|work, (eww, haggis)... see LOCALDEV in that manpage
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| 13:59 | <gothaggis|work> thank you!
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| 15:19 | <highvoltage> mgariepy: what were those two bugs you worked on over the weekend?
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| 15:48 | <mgariepy> highvoltage, jetpipe, ltsp-update-image kernel udpate, and ltsp-shutdown/reboot issue
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| 15:48 | highvoltage, plus a dirty hack for mime type.
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| 15:49 | <highvoltage> mgariepy: do they have ticket numbers?
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| 15:50 | <mgariepy> highvoltage, 996533 1048689 1062947
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| 16:48 | <highvoltage> mgariepy: merci
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| 16:51 | <ltspuser_17> I don't understand
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| 16:51 | I'm trying to put some thin clients working
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| 16:51 | with ubuntu 12.04
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| 16:52 | when starts booting gives an error: unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon
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| 16:52 | Begin: Loading essential drivers
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| 16:52 | and then
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| 16:53 | running /scripts/init-premount
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| 16:53 | DHCP request for eth0
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| 16:53 | Pid: 0, comm: swapper/0 not tainted....
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| 16:53 | and then Call trace:.....
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| 16:55 | and stucks with the message 8139too 000:00:0d.0: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full duplex...
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| 16:55 | and shows the same message over an over again...
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| 17:16 | <highvoltage> I like my caption on https://plus.google.com/photos/118060934321492774758/albums/5797478006049230929/5797478008734635298
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| 17:16 | :p
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| 17:28 | <ltspuser_17> anyone?
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| 17:49 | <gvy> ltspuser_17, just in case: try another switch port / network cable / switch / network card
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| 17:49 | 8139s used to die silently all these years...
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| 18:02 | <ltspuser_17> I have this terminal http://www.lucidatech.com/product/lt1600.htm
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| 18:02 | i think an ubuntu chroot is to heavy for the thin client...
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| 18:02 | any ideas?
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| 19:26 | <ltspuser_31> So this is my first time here hello. Do i just ask a question?
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| 19:27 | <||cw> yes
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| 19:30 | <ltspuser_31> Well I been using rdesktop to bring up a windows application like word. After some time the mouse seems to be off. Like I click in one area but it clicks some where else. Don't know if that makes sense.
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| 19:43 | <||cw> not seen that one, using rdesktop from an ltsp session, or using the rdesktop "screen" option?
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| 19:43 | I use the latter
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