IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 5 March 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:54 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 11:23 | <ZAJDAN> hello people
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| 11:25 | alkisg: barcode reader on thin/fat client should not be a problem? I think that the behaviour of the reader is same as keybord
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| 11:57 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: on fat => ok, on thin => problem
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| 11:57 | bbl
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| 12:06 | <ZAJDAN> ughrrrr...It is a great pity :(
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| 12:07 | and do you have experience FAT client connected to RDP(to windows) --- barcode reader
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| 12:07 | if the reader works through the rdp
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| 12:08 | because applications which processes the data runs on windows and I will be connected from FAT(linux) via RDP to the win station
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| 14:40 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: rdp usb forwarding is more easily done than thin client usb port forwarding
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| 14:40 | And, when you run SCREEN_07="xfreerdp", then all clients are like fat, there's no thin
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| 14:40 | Because xfreerdp runs locally on the client, not on the server
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| 14:41 | So you should be fine in all cases
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| 14:43 | I thought you had 4 computers at home though, where do you need barcodes?!
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| 14:45 | <ZAJDAN> I want to also use ltsp at work and two stations has barcode reader
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| 15:30 | <ZAJDAN> alkisg: how was the option for the Thin client about the freerdp?..please
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| 15:31 | <alkisg> SCREEN_07="xfreerdp params"
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| 15:31 | <ZAJDAN> I am on web irc and after reboot browser flush chat session
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| 15:31 | thnx
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| 15:31 | <alkisg> Find the correct xfreerdp command from a fat client before you put it to lts.conf
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| 15:32 | <ZAJDAN> i would like to use remmina
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| 15:32 | and remmina use what I know freerdp
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| 15:32 | as engine
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| 15:33 | could be "remmina -c /path/to_session_config/something.remmina"
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| 15:37 | do you mean common command which is used to establish rdp connection?
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| 15:49 | I tried: SCREEN_07="remmina -c /home/operator-2/.remmina/rdp_session.remmina" client after boot says, that the script was not found
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| 15:50 | <ZAJDAN> when this command I put into startup applications....it runs good
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| 16:01 | <alkisg> SCREEN_07 can't be anything you want like remmina
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| 16:01 | It can only be a few applications that have screen scripts
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| 16:01 | xfreerdp, xterm, ldm
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| 16:01 | <ZAJDAN> aha
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| 16:04 | I will try with xfreerdp what actually use remmina
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| 16:29 | <ZAJDAN> with xfreerdp I have problem run remote app
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| 16:30 | I tried all accordign freerdp wiki but without success
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| 16:30 | with remmina it work
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> Then you need to make a screen script for remmina, see the other scripts at /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d
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| 17:01 | But I think that remmina uses xfreerdp anyway
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| 20:21 | <ZAJDAN> could be PXE used on PCI ethernet card or it is possible just on integrated on motherboard?
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| 20:22 | <alkisg> !ipxe
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| 20:22 | <ltsp> ipxe: iPXE is the successor to the etherboot/gPXE project, and can be used to netboot clients that don't have a NIC ROM with a PXE stack. To add it to grub, see !grub-ipxe. To add it to the Windows boot loader, see !win32-loader. To download floppy, CD or USB images, visit http://ipxe.org or install the ipxe package.
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| 20:22 | <alkisg> !win32-loader
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| 20:22 | <ltsp> win32-loader: win32-loader.exe adds a "PXE - Network boot" option to the Windows boot manager. It's developed for Debian and it uses http://ipxe.org for the network booting. Download it from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/stable. More info at http://goo.gl/FPD7Zv
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| 20:23 | <alkisg> Either one of those 2
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| 20:25 | <ZAJDAN> in this it is not possible without operation system...do I understand it correctly?
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| 20:25 | <alkisg> No you didn't :
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| 20:26 | It says "floppy image"
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| 20:26 | <ZAJDAN> flopy image...flopy frive is prehistorical
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| 20:26 | <alkisg> You can put ipxe in a floppy, in a cd, in a usb stick, without OS
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| 20:26 | <ZAJDAN> cd is ok
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| 20:26 | <alkisg> Well, "any media"
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| 20:27 | You can also write it to to EPROM if you have a programmer
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| 20:27 | <ZAJDAN> :) not this is higher level
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| 20:27 | <alkisg> See http://boot.ipxe.org
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| 20:28 | <ZAJDAN> thnx for info
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| 20:28 | <alkisg> np
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| 20:29 | (I mentioned "floppy image", because can be sure that there's no OS there, not even a boot loader, just ipxe... :D)
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| 21:16 | <alkisg> !ltsp-pnp
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| 21:16 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 21:19 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, if you want to get familiar with LTSP, ltsp-pnp is totally the way to go! :)
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| 21:19 | <alkisg> hima: welcome :)
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| 21:20 | <hima> thanks
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| 21:20 | <alkisg> vagrantc: haha, just wanted to copy/paste that to hima on another channel
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| 21:20 | <vagrantc> sure :)
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| 21:20 | <hima> i installed ubuntu 16.04 LTS
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| 21:20 | <alkisg> hima, where do you want to use ltsp, with how many clients, with how much RAM etc?
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| 21:20 | <hima> when i tired to install LTSP packages
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| 21:20 | <alkisg> Tell us more about your setup
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| 21:20 | <hima> no way to overcome
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| 21:21 | build client
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| 21:21 | <alkisg> You don't need build client, you only need to follow that wiki page that I sent you
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| 21:21 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 21:21 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 21:21 | <alkisg> Also, don't use edubuntu, it's old and not really maintained anymore
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| 21:22 | <hima> i was giving edubuntu a try to explore benifits of it
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| 21:24 | should i install over ubuntu 16?
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| 21:24 | <alkisg> Which desktop environment did you select? The default ubuntu which has unity?
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| 21:25 | <hima> i am not used to linux flavours
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| 21:25 | let me check
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| 21:27 | <hima> how to check the version?
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| 21:27 | i think a disribution called linux lite
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| 21:28 | <alkisg> hima, I suggest you format again using ubuntu-mate like that ltsp-pnp page says
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| 21:28 | hima, how many clients do you want to use with ltsp?
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| 21:28 | <hima> i plane to use n primary school
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| 21:29 | may be 200 clients
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| 21:29 | <alkisg> Do they have at least 1 GB RAM, or do you also have older clients?
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| 21:29 | 200 computers or 200 students?
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| 21:29 | <hima> 200 pc
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| 21:30 | <alkisg> OK, how much RAM?
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| 21:30 | <hima> some 512
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| 21:30 | some 1 g
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| 21:30 | and most are 2 GB
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| 21:30 | <alkisg> OK, are you going to use one server only, or more than one?
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| 21:30 | <hima> one
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| 21:31 | should i use this disribution now? ubuntu-16.04.2-server-amd64
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| 21:31 | <alkisg> No, please read the wiki page and follow the link
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| 21:31 | <hima> using one server or more it depends upon how optimestic the start
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| 21:31 | <alkisg> It has a link to download ubuntu-mate
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| 21:32 | It's best to use one server for each classroom
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| 21:32 | *each computer lab
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| 21:32 | It doesn't need to be an expensive server
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| 21:32 | It can be a cheap but modern PC, e.g. one of those with 2 GB RAM
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| 21:32 | <hima> give me the down load link
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| 21:32 | <alkisg> I gave it to you 2 times now
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| 21:33 | Here's one more:
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| 21:33 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 21:33 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 21:33 | <alkisg> If you read that, it has a link to download ubuntu-mate
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| 21:33 | But you need to read it
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| 21:34 | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/16.04.2/release/ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
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| 21:34 | <hima> yaketty or xenial
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| 21:34 | <alkisg> Click the link above
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| 21:34 | This one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/16.04.2/release/ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
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| 21:35 | Install your ltsp server with that
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| 21:37 | <hima> i386
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| 21:37 | 32-bit
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| 21:37 | why not using 64 bits?
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| 21:38 | what is mate stands for?
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| 21:40 | <alkisg> Because you have old clients that are 32bit
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| 21:40 | Google for ubuntu-mate and see screen shots
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| 21:40 | Time to go, good night! :
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| 21:40 | <hima> thanks
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| 21:40 | <alkisg> np
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| 21:40 | <hima> g nt
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| 21:40 | <alkisg> Just follow that wiki page
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| 21:41 | <hima> yes i am downloading
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| 21:41 | and reading
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| 21:42 | it is not a must to use ubuntu mare
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| 21:42 | but it is prefered? correct?
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