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Channel log from 25 April 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:43 | <dberkholz> johnny: around?
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| 02:34 | <generic> hi how i add usb printer on thin client in ltsp5 in kubuntu
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| 02:35 | [ws224]
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| 02:35 | PRINTER_0_TYPE =U
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| 02:35 | PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usb/lp0
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| 02:35 | PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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| 02:35 | PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY= Y
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| 02:35 | or some thing else
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| 02:38 | do i need to add entry in /etc/hosts
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| 02:53 | <generic> helo
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| 02:53 | any idea how i add usb printer for thinclient
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| 03:05 | <zeltron> hi. Is there anybody in there ?
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| 03:05 | trying to install ltsp5 on debian etch and I got some problems
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| 03:06 | <generic> ya what prb zeltron
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| 03:07 | <zeltron> Ok. When the client tries to boot, I receive a message : error: not a valid image
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| 03:08 | I already installed ltsp4 and it works fine. I used the backports (alioth) to get ltsp5 in debian etch
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| 03:09 | and i used the ltsp-build-client command with option --extra-mirrors
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| 03:09 | <generic> why use backport
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| 03:09 | <zeltron> because ltsp5 is not included into debian etch
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| 03:09 | (only ltsp 4.2)
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| 03:11 | <generic> hm
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| 03:12 | <zeltron> When I try to get vmlinuz, the client responds : not a valid image
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| 03:13 | When I try to get nbi.img, it seems to work fine (lots of dots), but the client reboots
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| 03:24 | <daduke> zeltron: here are my install notes for LTSP5 on etch: https://nic.phys.ethz.ch/readme/233
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| 03:31 | <zeltron> Ogra : I take a look. Thanks
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| 06:44 | <johnny> dberkholz, sup?
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| 06:49 | <daya> is there is any way to change the position of login banner , in client
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| 06:55 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: did you mean something like this? http://incoming.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.8.0+git20080424-1_i386.changes
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| 06:56 | * johnny thinks Q-FUNK broke it | |
| 06:56 | <Q-FUNK> hm?
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| 06:57 | * johnny is just glad he doesn't have to worry about weird drivers | |
| 06:57 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, no, dont do a debdiff, just attach the patch to the bug and note that i will need an autogen run to get applied
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| 06:57 | <johnny> ogra, hey :)
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| 06:57 | <ogra> so bryce gets a clean readable patch with your changes
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| 06:57 | <johnny> g'mornin
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| 06:57 | <ogra> hey
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| 06:57 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: the patch is already there
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| 06:58 | * johnny seeded torrents all day yesterday | |
| 06:58 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: the end result of running autotools on the patched tarball is the above URL
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| 06:59 | * johnny lets all the junkies get hardy first | |
| 06:59 | <johnny> i'm saving my hardy upgrades for saturday
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| 07:01 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, i'm not intrested in reading tons of autotools crap in a patch and i doubt bryce is, talk to him, he's the one to approve, i'm just telling how i would perfer a patch to easily review and judge it
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| 07:02 | (i personally perfer if users attach plain patches to bugs and not debdiffs though, i might be different to others)
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| 07:06 | <jammcq> g'morning folks
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| 07:08 | <ogra> hey jammcq
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| 07:09 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: the - patch -is - already - there.
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| 07:09 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, well, i cant say much more
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| 07:09 | <Q-FUNK> it's been attached to the bug for ages.
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| 07:09 | <ogra> i dont have anything to decide about X SRUs
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| 07:21 | <daya> ogra, any idea to change login prompt's position in ltsp client,
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| 07:22 | ogra, is it /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/ltsp/greeter-gtkrc
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| 07:23 | <ogra> daya, no thats GTK stuff, you would need to patch the greeter code
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| 07:24 | all positions are computed on the fly relative to screensize
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| 07:24 | <daya> ogra, which , could you please tell me the location
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| 07:24 | <ogra> various
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| 07:24 | <daya> ogra, isn't it fixed as gdm themes
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| 07:24 | <ogra> no
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| 07:25 | <ogra> spheight = (height / 4) - (lh / 2); for example computes the height of the logo relative to the height of the screen
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| 07:25 | and adds an empty spacer above
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| 07:26 | for the X axist thats a lot trickier since you would have to change all vboxes in the code to match
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| 07:26 | *axis
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| 07:27 | <tarzeau> can i have ldm load balancing ?
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| 07:27 | <ogra> tarzeau, you can have a server list to select from
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| 07:27 | <tarzeau> ogra: really? how?
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| 07:27 | <ogra> and i think fgiraldeau has a patched ldm/ldminfod version that also show the load of the servers in that list
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| 07:28 | <tarzeau> do you know rwho/ruptime ?
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| 07:28 | how does fgiraldeau do that?
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| 07:28 | <ogra> sounds scary with the r in front
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| 07:28 | :)
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| 07:28 | like rtime
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| 07:28 | * daduke agrees | |
| 07:28 | <tarzeau> you mean rdate?
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| 07:28 | i know rtype but rtime?
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| 07:28 | <ogra> or rsh
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| 07:28 | <daya> ogra, I am in confused , which file r u referring to patch , :D
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| 07:28 | <ogra> tarzeau, i made that up ?
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| 07:29 | <tarzeau> is the patch of fgiraldeau fast or slow?
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| 07:29 | <ogra> daya, gtkgreet/greeter.c in the ldm source
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| 07:29 | <tarzeau> at run-time
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| 07:29 | <ogra> tarzeau, it collects additional info from the server if ldminfod is queried
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| 07:29 | it requires to have ldminfod runnng on every machine you want to offer
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| 07:30 | <tarzeau> cool, and our ldm has that all?
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| 07:30 | <ogra> tarzeau, for the server list, have a look at the screen.d script of ldm (i never used that feature myself)
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| 07:31 | <daduke> ogra: we have reason to ask since our LTSP server turned itself off tonight 0:40
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| 07:31 | <ogra> tarzeau, look for a comment with "Server scalability"
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| 07:31 | daduke, any trace in the logs ? are all fans running etc ?
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| 07:32 | there is a nice failover setup many edubuntu users use
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| 07:32 | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDHCPload-balancingFailover
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| 07:32 | <daduke> ogra: it's back online, but was completely dead. We started exchanging PSUs and HDs and stuff, in the end it just came back to live.. hm.
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| 07:32 | <ogra> but indeed that requires a spare fallback machine
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| 07:32 | <ogra> did you run memtest on it ?
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| 07:33 | <daduke> ogra: the HW itself is fine, it must've been power related. Just turned off, no trace in the logs
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| 07:35 | <tarzeau> http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ldminfod&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any
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| 07:36 | ldminfod comes with ldsp-server
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| 07:36 | <ogra> right
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| 07:36 | <tarzeau> # grep ldminfo /etc/inetd.conf
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| 07:36 | 9571 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/ldminfod
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| 07:36 | <ogra> telnet localhost 9571
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| 07:36 | :)
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| 07:36 | <tarzeau> telnet plimpy 9571
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| 07:37 | how is rating calculated?
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| 07:37 | i think it's retarded because it doesn't check how much cpus there are...
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| 07:37 | <ogra> look at ldminfod, its a py script
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| 07:41 | <ogra> tarzeau, http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/multiple-server-setup.html
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| 07:43 | <daduke> ogra: thanks, that sounds wonderful.
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| 07:44 | <ogra> i never tried that myself ... no guarantee it works
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| 07:45 | <daduke> ogra: we'll make it work.
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| 07:45 | <ogra> :)
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| 07:46 | <tarzeau> daduke: http://sid.ethz.ch/visquare@mac.com.txt
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| 07:46 | <ogra> i know sbalneav tested it back in gutsy beginnings when he wrote that page
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| 07:46 | but i dont know if anyone every tested it later on
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| 07:46 | <tarzeau> http://www.gisdevelopment.net/application/environment/overview/envo0003a.htm
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| 07:47 | <daduke> ogra: this also answers yesterday's question from empiric, he wanted to do HA, but this setup does both, HA and no idle HW
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| 07:47 | <ogra> not really
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| 07:47 | the user still has to select from the server list
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| 07:47 | HA is automatic
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| 07:47 | <tarzeau> i can make the user has to select from list, in russia the user is selected by the server
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| 07:48 | <daduke> ogra: if I read this ubuntu doc correctly, /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/get_hosts should enable us to do it automatically, doesn't it?
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| 07:48 | <ogra> well, it randomizes
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| 07:49 | someone has to come up with a real god get_hosts for full load balancing with HA
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| 07:49 | <daduke> ogra: fine too. if we put the 'are you alive' detection into get_hosts, we're all set
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| 07:50 | ogra: I'm not talking about process takeover here, just 100% availability of at least one LTSP server
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| 07:50 | <ogra> ah, well, for that it will suffice
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| 07:50 | get_hosts can just be a pinger for that
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| 07:51 | <daduke> ogra: exactly.
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| 07:51 | <daya> ogra, can't we still localise ldm, or there is some option,
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| 07:52 | <ogra> daya, its just in the process of being localized
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| 07:52 | debian sid already has it ...
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| 07:52 | <daya> ogra, ye ok fine, can I use only ldm from sid in lenny
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| 07:52 | <ogra> it saldy was to late for ubuntu hardy, but ldm is in a separate source package now, so i hope i can provide a backport
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| 07:52 | <daduke> ogra: localized ldm? didn't even notice... lemme check
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| 07:52 | <ogra> daya, nope
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| 07:53 | daya, the dependencies are different
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| 07:53 | and the versions
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| 07:53 | daduke, i'm not sure vagrant hast pushed it to experimental first though, to wait for more translations
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| 07:53 | *hasnt
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| 07:54 | <daduke> ogra: I see. how would I see? how does it determine the locale?
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| 07:54 | <ogra> from the system
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| 07:54 | the locale of the chroot is set during ltsp-build-client
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| 07:54 | <daduke> ogra: great! it's been en before, it's en now ;)
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| 07:54 | <ogra> defaulting to the server locale
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| 07:55 | <ogra> no idea where you set it in debian nowadays
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| 07:55 | in ubuntu it just moved from /etc/environment to /etc/default/locale
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| 07:56 | <daduke> ogra: back to HA: how could one possibly achieve process takeover? would require a mirror system...
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| 07:57 | <daya> ogra, do I have to twist spheight = (height / 4) - (lh / 2);
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| 07:57 | only, these value or some ,
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| 07:57 | <ogra> daya, changing that will move everything up or down
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| 07:58 | depending on the change
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| 07:59 | <ogra> for left/right movement you need to rewrite the vbox/hbox model i fear
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| 07:59 | <daya> ogra, oh, then there is no any alternative to change t
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| 07:59 | <ogra> no, not yet at least
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| 07:59 | <daya> the login prompt position
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| 07:59 | <ogra> that would require massive redesign of the greeter
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| 07:59 | <daya> ogra, ok fine hope to be in future
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| 08:00 | <ogra> not easy
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| 08:00 | <daya> :)
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| 08:00 | <ogra> the vbox/hbox model was chosen because it doesnt take extra ressources
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| 08:01 | all implementations that would offer floating positioning would raise the requirements of ldm massively (gnomecanvas, cairo etc)
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| 08:01 | <ogra> i'm not sure that something to desire
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| 08:02 | <johnny> really?
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| 08:02 | <ogra> the pythin greeter had two probs that caused slowness and huge ram usage ... one was python, the other was gnomecanvas
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| 08:03 | i'm not sure how much a cairo port would eat, but surely more than the plain gtk we have now
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| 08:03 | <johnny> oh.. it's not cairo at all
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| 08:03 | that's why i was confused
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| 08:03 | <ogra> well, as much cairo as gtk uses in the backend
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| 08:03 | (for standard render functions)
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| 08:04 | but no cairo canvas
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| 08:07 | all graphics handling in ldm is plain gdk ... layout and UI elements are plain gtk
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| 08:08 | <johnny> let's go back to gtk1
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| 08:08 | lol
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| 08:08 | jk
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| 08:09 | <ogra> nah, lets see that gtk2 doesnt suck the ram out of your system with a loud slurping sound
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| 08:09 | <johnny> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm
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| 08:10 | <ogra> gtk and gnome development has become way to bling oriented imho ... low end systems need more attention
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| 08:11 | <johnny> hmm.. i haven't had access to such machines in awhile
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| 08:12 | <Q-FUNK> ssssssssssssssssllllllllllllllllllllllllrp
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| 08:37 | <generic> guys i want to set a usb deskjet printer on my thin clint from ltsp5 any idea
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| 08:37 | ?
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| 08:38 | <generic> i did [00:0F:1F:A2:32:D5]
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| 08:38 | PRINTER_0_TYPE =U
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| 08:38 | PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usblp0
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| 08:38 | PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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| 08:38 | PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY= Y
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| 08:38 | <jamiej__> I am trying to install ltsp-server-standalone on hardy and get this Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
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| 08:38 | Using '/usr/share/ldm/themes/edubuntu' to provide 'ldm-theme'.
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| 08:38 | Reading package lists... Done
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| 08:38 | Building dependency tree
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| 08:38 | Reading state information... Done
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| 08:38 | E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-artwork-usplash
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| 08:38 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally. I even tryed --exclude xubuntu-artwork-usplash and this did not work. Does anyone know what is going on or fixed this please.
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| 08:53 | <generic> guys
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| 08:53 | how i attached printer on thin client
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| 08:54 | <johnny> i've never done it before personally
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| 08:54 | so i can't answer
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| 08:54 | i just have mine on the server
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| 08:54 | and clients can print fine from that
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| 08:54 | when i let em
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| 09:23 | <jamiej__> I am trying to install ltsp-server-standalone on hardy and get this Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
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| 09:23 | Using '/usr/share/ldm/themes/edubuntu' to provide 'ldm-theme'.
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| 09:23 | Reading package lists... Done
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| 09:23 | Building dependency tree
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| 09:23 | Reading state information... Done
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| 09:23 | E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-artwork-usplash
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| 09:23 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally. I even tryed --exclude xubuntu-artwork-usplash and this did not work. Does anyone know what is going on or fixed this please.
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| 09:24 | <johnny> haven't updated to hardy yet
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| 09:24 | so.. no idea
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| 09:24 | very few have
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| 09:24 | <Nubae> do you have a custom ldm theme ?
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| 09:25 | <laga> jamiej__: i suspect you need to add universe to the list of repos
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| 09:25 | <jamiej__> Ok i Think it already their.
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| 09:25 | <vagrantc> jamiej__: this happened when you installed ltsp-server-standalone, or when you ran ltsp-build-client ??
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| 09:27 | <ogra> vagrantc, xubuntu moved completely to universe
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| 09:27 | jamiej__, you need the option: --components main,restricted,universe
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| 09:27 | for ltsp-build-client
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| 09:27 | <vagrantc> ogra: oh, wow.
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| 09:28 | * ogra just invalidated a bug for that a minute ago | |
| 09:28 | <johnny> xubuntu moved to unierse?
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| 09:28 | why?
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| 09:28 | <ogra> because they can get more contributions that way and are more free in their app choice
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| 09:30 | * vagrantc feels so wishy-washy with architectures | |
| 09:30 | <ogra> did you get it sorted ?
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| 09:30 | <vagrantc> otavio: i'm contemplating turning all the other architectures back on, because i can't figure out what i need to do to clean up all this mess.
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| 09:31 | <ogra> probably get it removed completely oce and upload a fixed sourcepackage that only tries to build on arches you want ?
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| 09:31 | <vagrantc> ogra: i still don't even know what all i have to do to get it sorted, no.
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| 09:32 | <ogra> make ltsp-client and -core Architecture: i386 amd64 powerpc
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| 09:32 | that should really be all you need to do
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| 09:32 | <vagrantc> ogra: i think i have to: contact each buildd team and get them to add their package to the list of packages to not build, contact ftpmasters to get it removed from unstable and testing, and debian-release maybe to get it removed from testing
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| 09:33 | <ogra> seems really like the debian build system is lacking there
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| 09:33 | <vagrantc> but it isn't documented anywhere.
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| 09:34 | <ogra> and is a horrible process
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| 09:34 | <vagrantc> indeed.
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| 09:35 | the easy thing for me is to re-enable all the architectures, and get my hands on all the architectures that tend to be hold-ups. right now, that's powerpc and alpha ...
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| 09:35 | which is annoying and ridiculous.
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| 09:35 | <ogra> doest debian have an irc channel for buildd people like #soyuz for ubuntu ?
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| 09:35 | <vagrantc> nobody in debian-devel mentioned it when i asked.
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| 09:37 | <ogra> you could ctch it trough debian/rules nad make the build no-op ... but thats very hackish
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| 09:37 | *catch
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| 09:38 | <generic> ogra
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| 09:38 | i want to run usb printer on thin client
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| 09:38 | what i do
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| 09:38 | <vagrantc> ogra: well, the build already fails. it's treated as an RC bug.
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| 09:39 | <generic> even printer is attached to my thin client i can send print from ltsp server but from thinclient i can not
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| 09:39 | <ogra> whatever RC might mean at this state of your release :P
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| 09:39 | <vagrantc> ogra: i'll reply to the submitters of the two bugs and mark them help, and see what comes of that.
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| 09:40 | ogra: tagging the ldm i18n bug help got us a translateable ldm within days :)
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| 09:41 | <ogra> yeah, saw that
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| 09:41 | i would love to get it into 8.04.1
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| 09:41 | but not sure thats possible
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| 09:43 | generic, set PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usblp0 in lts.conf ... then set up the printer in your pinter dialog in the desktop to point to jectdirect printer on port 9100 on the client IP address
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| 09:43 | <rjune_> mornig
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| 09:44 | <generic> ogra
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| 09:44 | [00:0F:1F:A2:32:D5]
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| 09:44 | PRINTER_0_TYPE =U
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| 09:44 | PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usblp0
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| 09:44 | PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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| 09:44 | PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY= Y
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| 09:44 | i did this
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| 09:44 | <ogra> to much stuff
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| 09:44 | (and please dont paste for more than three lines here)
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| 09:44 | <generic> ok sorry
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| 09:44 | is that ok
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| 09:44 | <ogra> PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usblp0 is enough
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| 09:44 | drop the rest
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| 09:44 | <generic> ok
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| 09:45 | <ogra> it sets up a jetdircet forwarder on port 9100
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| 09:45 | so just point your printer setup to the client's IP at 9100 and select the printer driver
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| 09:46 | <generic> a network printer right
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| 09:46 | <ogra> right
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| 09:46 | it should offer you jetdirect somewhere
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| 09:47 | <generic> ya i did the same process before
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| 09:47 | let me do it again
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| 09:48 | <ogra> i think its called "Appsocket/JetDirect" in the ui
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| 09:48 | at least in hardy
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| 09:50 | <rjune_> ogra: do you have a synopsis of how the latest ltsp works/
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| 09:50 | ?
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| 09:50 | <ogra> it didnt change the last 6 months
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| 09:51 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWithoutNFS was the last thing i have written about the architecture
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| 10:12 | <rjune_> that'll do me, I've not been involved for a while
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| 10:12 | I'm presenting next week.
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| 10:12 | s/week/month/
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| 10:29 | <ogra> vagrantc, 471793 is surely rather about the session not returning prpoerly
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| 10:29 | *properly
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| 10:29 | i dont think pam specialists will help ther
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| 10:29 | e
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| 10:35 | <Blinny> us.archive.ubuntu.com is just getting hammered
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| 10:36 | <ogra> heh, yeah
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| 10:37 | i just had to verify a md5sum for an iso ... took me ages to get through to releases.ubuntu.com
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| 10:38 | around relases canonical is sucking up a majority of the complete UK bandwith :)
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| 10:39 | <laga> really?
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| 10:39 | <ogra> yes
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| 10:39 | <laga> nice :)
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| 10:40 | <laga> we've already had 1500 downloads for mythbuntu, the release happened some time during the night
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| 10:40 | <ogra> i'm sadly not allowed to tell numbers but they are really impressive
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| 10:41 | <laga> that's nothing compared to ubuntu, of course, but still quite impressive ;)
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| 10:41 | <ogra> (and i have seen big numbers in my life)
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| 10:42 | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221918
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| 10:43 | everyone hug ace suares from me if he drops in here again :)
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| 10:43 | (my favorite hardy bug)
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| 10:43 | <vagrantc> ogra: well, i figured i'd at least put out a call for help and maybe someone will answer :)
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| 10:43 | <Blinny> What a cool name. Ace Suares
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| 10:44 | Is mythbuntu connected with LinuxMCE? I believe MCE uses mythtv as a package..
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| 10:44 | <laga> Blinny: no
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| 10:44 | they use the same software and ubuntu as their base system, but they're different projects
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| 10:44 | <Blinny> Dig.
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| 10:45 | I'm really excited about the MCE project. I'd love to go into business providing those setups.
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| 10:46 | Couldn't they mirror out the archive.ubuntu.com packages?
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| 10:46 | <laga> they have a different goal
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| 10:47 | ah, they're still on 7.10
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| 10:47 | mythbuntu doesn't have the smart home stuff.
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| 10:47 | <Blinny> Right right.
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| 10:48 | <laga> and the additional 3d UI.
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| 10:48 | <Blinny> MCE was ported from a huge proprietary codebase (from plutohome.com) - but they include diskless booting from the core server for the media directors.
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| 10:49 | I wonder how much local device support they have - and how much they relied on the LTSP in Gutsy for doing this.
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| 10:50 | Anyway. Gotta fly. Later!
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| 10:50 | <laga> Blinny: i hear mythbuntu has support for diskless clients which is based on LTSP ;)
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| 10:52 | <ogra> laga, no, really ?!?
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| 10:52 | * ogra grins | |
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| 10:52 | <laga> that's the word on the streets
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| 10:52 | <ogra> hehe :)
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| 11:10 | <vagrantc> ogra: were security updates for "-ac" in ldm in gutsy, feisty, edgy or dapper made?
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| 11:10 | <ogra> not yet, on my list
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| 11:10 | edgy is EOL
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| 11:11 | <vagrantc> ah, sure.
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| 11:11 | <ogra> and feisty had no directx
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| 11:11 | <laga> ogra: does canonical sell support for EOLd distros?
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| 11:11 | <vagrantc> ogra: that wasn't a directx only bug.
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| 11:11 | <ogra> so actually i only have to fix gutsy it seems
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| 11:11 | <vagrantc> ogra: it applies to all versions of ldm ever released.
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| 11:12 | minus the ones where it was fixed
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| 11:12 | <ogra> vagrantc, well, in all non directx releases its a one line change
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| 11:12 | just dropping the -ac
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| 11:12 | <vagrantc> right.
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| 11:12 | still need to get etch fixed ...
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| 11:13 | <ogra> laga, nope
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| 11:13 | laga, we only sell support for supported stuff indeed :)
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| 11:13 | <laga> sad
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| 11:13 | upgrading = bad ;)
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| 11:13 | <ogra> did you want to buy a contract for egy ?
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| 11:13 | <laga> well, i've got another 6 months
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| 11:13 | <ogra> *edgy
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| 11:13 | <laga> ogra: no, feisty
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| 11:14 | i just want security updates
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| 11:14 | <ogra> well, go to hardy and you dont have to care for 3 years
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| 11:14 | thats why we do LTS :)
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| 11:14 | <laga> heh
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| 11:14 | good point. maybe i'll try in 6 months ;)
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| 11:23 | <otavio> vagrantc: i said, request the removal
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| 11:24 | <vagrantc> otavio: i just don't understand what i even need to say...
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| 11:50 | <vagrantc> ogra, warren, johnny, dberkholz, cyberorg: hopeing to tag a new version for ltsp-trunk in the next few hours... let me know if you've got anything you'd like to get in.
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| 12:20 | <johnny> vagrantc, i'd like to get my stuff in, but there is no rush, since it relies on a beta version of upcoming release
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| 12:24 | <vagrantc> johnny: yeah, this is more of a "have anything ready to commit now or very soon" kind of thing :)
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| 12:24 | <johnny> dberkholz pinged me last night
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| 12:24 | but i wasn't here
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| 12:24 | guess it'll have to be for next time
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| 12:25 | <vagrantc> in the realm of 1-3 hours or so :)
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| 12:36 | <dberkholz> johnny: yeah, basically wondering whether your tree + ltsp overlay is sufficient for testing, and what's left to do
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| 12:37 | <johnny> well.. nbd isn't supported at all
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| 12:38 | and it will fail when emerging the packages we need due to mkstemp and coreutils blockers
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| 12:38 | hopefully will be fixed in beta2
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| 12:39 | <dberkholz> johnny: do you have any code for upgrading yet, or just the initial install so far?
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| 12:39 | <johnny> for upgrading? like after install? no
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| 12:41 | <vagrantc> that's an area i'd like to work on for debian as well
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| 12:41 | <johnny> i'm going to rename the quickstart file
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| 12:41 | before i recommend using it
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| 12:45 | doing that right now
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| 12:47 | ok. pushed
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| 12:48 | <vagrantc> ltsp-trunk 5.1.5 tested, tagged, pushed and uploaded to debian.
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| 13:27 | <Blinny> WooO!
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| 13:48 | <lnkemp> Is anyone on experianced with getting sound working in ltsp 4 on fedora 6? I know 5 works better, but I cannot change distro's till the end of May
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| 13:49 | <Blinny> 1% [Waiting for headers] 501B/s 3hr43min13s
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| 13:50 | lnkemp: Yeah, I have that going now. What's up?
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| 13:50 | lnkemp: (though I'm using 4.2)
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| 13:50 | <lnkemp> ok lets start with that
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| 13:51 | how do I check which version of ltsp I'm running
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| 13:51 | it's k12ltsp v6
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| 13:51 | <Blinny> Dig. Then you're 4.2
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| 13:51 | <lnkemp> right on
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| 13:51 | <Blinny> That's exactly what I'm running now.
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| 13:51 | First - You've got SOUND = Y in lts.conf ?
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| 13:51 | <lnkemp> ok well the clients are ipaqs, with i810 integrated audio
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| 13:51 | right
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| 13:52 | sound = y is in lts.conf
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| 13:52 | sound_daemon = "esd"
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| 13:52 | <Blinny> OK
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| 13:52 | <lnkemp> and smodule_01 = "i810_sound"
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| 13:53 | <Blinny> VOLUME != 0 ?
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| 13:53 | <lnkemp> volume = 75
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| 13:53 | <Blinny> You shouldn't have to load the sound module unless it's an ISA
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| 13:53 | <lnkemp> well I just now tried that and reset a terminal
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| 13:53 | didn't help though
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| 13:53 | <Blinny> Ok - Leave that smodule line out
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| 13:53 | <lnkemp> done
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| 13:54 | <Blinny> What are you trying to play sound with?
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| 13:55 | <lnkemp> flash 9 ;-)
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| 13:55 | <Blinny> Oh.
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| 13:56 | Do other things work?
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| 13:56 | <lnkemp> no
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| 13:56 | <Blinny> Well let's start small. Do you have xmms or totem?
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| 13:56 | <pscheie> lnkemp, start with esdplay before tackling flash sound
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| 13:57 | <lnkemp> right
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| 13:57 | <pscheie> esdplay <soundfile.wav>
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| 13:59 | <lnkemp> sorry had to download a wav file
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| 14:00 | esdplay hello.wav reported nothing
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| 14:00 | played nothing
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| 14:03 | any thoughts? what log could I check to see what is or isn't being loaded?
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| 14:08 | <Blinny> Have you been through http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound ?
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| 14:09 | <lnkemp> I have that open right now
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| 14:09 | <Blinny> And Gadi's page here: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress#esd_ALSA_sound_on_LTSP_4_2
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| 14:10 | <lnkemp> do I still need to download the ltsp-sound rpm?
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| 14:13 | <Blinny> I don't know what that is.
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| 14:14 | <lnkemp> it's about the third step listed
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| 14:16 | <Blinny> Not sure. Try it and see from here: http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.1-extras/
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| 14:18 | <lnkemp> that didn't seem to help
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| 14:18 | there is another install onthe esd_alsa page
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| 14:18 | but I'll have to check that later, got a meeting in 10 minutes....
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| 14:19 | well thanks for the help
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| 17:52 | <Navegator> Hello, I'm trying to make my clients to access its hard drive but I do not know what to add in the udev rules to be able to construct the ltspfs_fstab correctly, can anyone help me?
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| 18:01 | I can acces the USB's and CDROM's fine, the problem comes when I try to access the hard drives
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| 18:03 | <Dewmon689> hi all
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| 18:03 | anyone around?
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| 18:05 | <Navegator> Yes
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| 18:05 | hello
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| 18:05 | <Dewmon689> have you delt with the ad share?
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| 18:06 | <c1b0rg> I am having trouble seeing local hard disks on thin clients, usb and cdroms works fine, I need help.
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| 18:07 | <Navegator> Hello, I'm trying to make my clients to access the hard drives, but I do not know what to add in the udev rules to be able to construct the ltspfs_fstab correctly, can you help me?
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| 18:08 | <Dewmon689> haha we all have problems, where's the help?
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| 18:08 | <c1b0rg> do not know, maybe the other 72 are bots?
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| 18:09 | what is "ad share"
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| 18:09 | <Navegator> I'm begining to believe so
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| 18:09 | <c1b0rg> Dewmon689, do you have hard drives in your thin clients? can you see them?
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| 18:10 | <Navegator> No automatically
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| 18:13 | AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH, we have 72 virtual people here
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| 18:13 | <Dewmon689> no I do not
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| 18:14 | but it sounds like they're not being mounted because the lts.conf isn't set up to mount hard drives
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| 18:14 | when the kernal is booting though, it will see it
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| 18:16 | <c1b0rg> well in ltps4.* you can configure lts.conf with LOCAL_DEVICE_01 = /dev/hda1:cdrom, but with ltsp5 i do not know what to do
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| 18:17 | <Dewmon689> hmm... have you searched on ltsp.org at all?
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| 18:19 | <c1b0rg> yes, i have tracked the problem down to the udev rules, where i think the problem is in adding the entries to ltsp_fstab
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| 18:21 | if in the thin client in the root console I do : mkdir /var/run/drives/hda2 and the add these line to /var/run/ltspfs_fstab: /dev/hda2 /var/run/drives/hda2
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| 18:22 | I am able to see the hard disk, but these configuration get lost when i reboot the machine.
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| 18:23 | so I add these line ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="hd[a-z]", NAME="%k", RUN+="add_fstab_entry %k auto" to /etc/udev/rules.d/z60_ltspfsd.rules
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| 18:23 | <c1b0rg> and I was able to see an atadisk, however it was not mountable.
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| 18:28 | <Dewmon689> hmmm... not sure then
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| 18:32 | <c1b0rg> well, thanks, and what is "ad share"
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| 18:33 | <Dewmon689> active directory shares
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| 19:34 | <c1b0rg> hi, i have problems mounting hard disks on thin clients, anyone want to help me?
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| 19:42 | <c1b0rg> hi, i have problems mounting hard disks on thin clients, anyone want to help me?
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| 19:55 | <johnny> c1b0rg, stop doing that
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| 19:55 | it's annoying
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| 19:55 | this is not a good time for #ltsp
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| 19:55 | usually it's like weekdayish times
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| 19:56 | when all the peoples are about
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| 22:13 | <lns> johnny, i'm always happily idling =p
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