IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 25 October 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:15 | <miks> Alright experts, I have a weird one for you
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| 04:16 | I have an Edubuntu 10.04 LTSP computer lab, and 3 machines are giving me trouble
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| 04:17 | They are all Gateway Profile 4 machines, which is an all-in-one machine (computer built into monitor). When these specific machines boot up, I can hear them log into Edubuntu (the sound is on), but the screens remain blank.
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| 04:18 | I believe X is using their secondary VGA port instead of the built-in monitor for some reason. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot, or specify that they should boot to the built-in monitor?
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| 04:19 | Thanks in advance for any ideas or tips! I'm SO close to finishing this lab, once I get these 3 machines working I can let the students and staff back in again :-)
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| 06:59 | <VectorX> with ubuntu-11.10-server-i386.iso can i create a ltsp server without having to download anything ?
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| 07:21 | <alkisg> VectorX: no, you need the alternate cd for that, not the server cd
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| 07:22 | <VectorX> ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso ?
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| 07:22 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 07:24 | <VectorX> is that the latest ?
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| 07:43 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 07:48 | <Hyperbyte> miks, look at XRANDR_* config options in lts.conf
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| 07:48 | Also, it helps greatly if you can actually run 'xrandr' on the thin clients in question, to test your theory.
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| 07:49 | I'd attach a screen to the VGA port, and if it turns on run xrandr to see what it outputs, then enable the internal display and disable the external. If that gives desired results, then you need to set the appropriate XRANDR_* config values in lts.conf for the thin clients.
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| 07:49 | Good morning alkisg. ;-)
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| 07:57 | <alkisg> x
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| 07:57 | :)
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| 11:30 | <andygraybeal> mornings
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| 12:18 | <Hyperbyte> Yo, Andy!
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| 12:46 | <andygraybeal> hi Hyperbyte :)))
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| 12:55 | <Hyperbyte> How are you my friend? :)
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| 12:56 | <andygraybeal> i'm good man. i got our stovetop working last night, tonight i need to get the oven to work.
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| 12:56 | it's very good.. since we moved to the new house, we haven't been able to use it.
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| 12:56 | <Hyperbyte> Hah
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| 12:56 | Only salads for you. :-D
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| 12:56 | <andygraybeal> how about you?
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| 12:59 | <andygraybeal> how'r you doing Hyperbyte?
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| 12:59 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 12:59 | <andygraybeal> hi mgariepy :)
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| 13:05 | <Hyperbyte> Andy, we're moving offices, I told that before I think
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| 13:05 | I'm arranging everything, from network cabling to new server room to moving telecom lines...
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| 13:06 | Especially the last is proving to be quite a bitch... I'm being sent from pillar to post and back...
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| 13:06 | <Hyperbyte> Apart from that everything's great though!
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| 13:07 | <matrix3000> what would cause me to get a boot prompt during pxe boot
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| 13:07 | only on one system out of 20
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| 13:08 | like it loads the image but then gives me a boot: _
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| 13:08 | <andygraybeal> aah moving office.
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| 13:09 | Hyperbyte, i didn't realize, i bet it's exciting though, even though it's annoying and troublesome.
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| 13:09 | <Hyperbyte> Heh
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| 13:09 | Yeah, very exciting.
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| 13:09 | Love building new stuff. :)
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| 13:09 | But I think everybody does.
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| 13:09 | <andygraybeal> Hyperbyte, i would love to start all over again, especially with the wiring and the knowledge i've gained since I first did it.
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| 13:10 | <Hyperbyte> Toughest part of being in IT I think is that you have to maintain systems... maintenance and support I don't like.
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| 13:10 | Building new stuff is awesome! :)
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| 13:10 | Heh
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| 13:10 | I knew our new office was close to an airport by the way
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| 13:10 | <matrix3000> yep
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| 13:10 | <Hyperbyte> Not very often used airport, but still airport.
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| 13:10 | <matrix3000> i agree
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| 13:10 | maintaining systems is a pain in my arse
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| 13:11 | <Hyperbyte> Just found out the main runway is 400 meters from our office.
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| 13:11 | I wonder how much noise that's going to give.
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| 13:11 | <andygraybeal> matrix3000, one just loads to a boot screen eh? does the issue follow the nic?
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| 13:11 | <Hyperbyte> http://g.co/maps/sdbbe
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| 13:11 | <andygraybeal> Hyperbyte, :) ear plugs :P
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| 13:11 | <matrix3000> nope
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| 13:12 | it happend to two pc's
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| 13:12 | but at the same desk
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| 13:12 | it doesn't start ubuntu but the computer next to it did
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| 13:12 | <Hyperbyte> Which Ubuntu version?
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| 13:12 | <matrix3000> 11.04
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| 13:13 | * Hyperbyte shrugs. | |
| 13:14 | <matrix3000> lol
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| 13:14 | will be 11.10 if i can not be a pussy
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| 13:14 | and have confidence in crappy unity
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| 13:15 | <Hyperbyte> Why 11.10?
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| 13:15 | <andygraybeal> <-- 10.04 :)
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| 13:16 | <matrix3000> cause 11.10 is newer
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| 13:16 | 10.04 had issues for me
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| 13:16 | it hated not running dhcp on it
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| 13:16 | <Hyperbyte> matrix3000, no, really, why?
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| 13:16 | <matrix3000> and yea a few other reasons
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| 13:16 | ipappend coulding fix everything
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| 13:16 | couldnt*
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| 13:16 | <Hyperbyte> 2012 is newer than 2011, doesn't mean we're all anxiously waiting for the year to be over.
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| 13:17 | Why 11.10?
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| 13:17 | <matrix3000> 11.10 is the latest release of ubuntu
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| 13:17 | <Hyperbyte> That's not a reason.
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| 13:17 | <matrix3000> and 11.04 asks to upgrade to it
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| 13:17 | but im not going to
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| 13:17 | till prolly 12.04
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| 13:17 | <Hyperbyte> What does 11.10 has that warrants a whole lot of work upgrading your system?
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| 13:17 | <andygraybeal> matrix3000, when you say 'you hated not running dhcp on it' do you mean the dhcpd3 server?
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| 13:17 | <Hyperbyte> *has->have
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| 13:17 | <matrix3000> yea
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| 13:17 | nothing
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| 13:17 | <andygraybeal> matrix3000, i run dhcpd3 on mine; without issue.
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| 13:18 | <matrix3000> that's why
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| 13:18 | <Hyperbyte> matrix3000, so don't upgrade.
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| 13:19 | I have no intention of upgrading my system from 11.04 to anything else. Maybe in a few months, after the whole move, when I'm bored one day in the weekend I'll make a harddisk image of the terminal server for easy restore, and run an upgrade just to see what happens.
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| 13:19 | * khildin is away: I'm busy, or afk, or..... just don't disturb ok.... :P | |
| 13:19 | <Hyperbyte> But apart from that, I have no plans to upgrade.
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| 13:19 | khildin, please disable your public away message.
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| 13:19 | :)
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| 13:21 | <matrix3000> lol
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| 13:21 | * matrix3000 hates all servers | |
| 13:21 | * matrix3000 wants them to fix themselves | |
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| 13:22 | <andygraybeal> hm.. i wonder if i have a nother client running
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| 13:23 | <Hyperbyte> matrix3000, I'm sure the server is thinking "I hate matrix3000. I wish he wouldn't make errors in my software installation and then blame me."
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| 13:23 | :P
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| 13:33 | <matrix3000> its not my fault i configured devices with static ips and then they switch overnight and request dhcp addresses
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| 13:33 | then i go into the /etc/network/interfaces and the statics are defined and no mention of dhcp
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| 13:33 | i do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
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| 13:33 | and then bam all good
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| 13:43 | <Hyperbyte> You are probably using a mix of NetworkManager and /etc/network/interfaces
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| 13:43 | And the two are conflicting.
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| 13:43 | <andygraybeal> i set all my statics at the server.
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| 13:53 | <matrix3000> the static was at the server
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| 13:53 | but the server somehow requested a dhcp address overnight
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| 13:53 | my boss didnt believe me till he logged into the system
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| 13:55 | <andygraybeal> two dhcpd's on the net?
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| 13:55 | bbiab
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| 13:59 | <matrix3000> nope
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| 13:59 | just one
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| 14:07 | <Hyperbyte> 15:43 <Hyperbyte> You are probably using a mix of NetworkManager and /etc/network/interfaces
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| 14:07 | 15:43 <Hyperbyte> And the two are conflicting.
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| 14:12 | <matrix3000> nope
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| 14:13 | gui isn't installed on the systems
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| 14:27 | <andygraybeal> okay back
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| 14:48 | <nubae_> yo yo... so whats UDP checksum error mean when a thin client (thincan) starts up?
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| 14:53 | <Hyperbyte> Had the same problem... I believe ltsp-update-image --force fixed it
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| 14:53 | Maybe ltsp-update-kernels as well.
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| 14:54 | <Hyperbyte> matrix3000, whether a GUI is installed in the system or not has nothing to do with it.
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| 14:55 | I can send my previous two messages about NetworkManager and /etc/network/interfaces conflicting another time, if you really need me to say it three times
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| 14:55 | But unless you go and actually check, this problem isn't gonna go away.
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| 15:00 | <matrix3000> how do i check for network manager
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| 15:03 | i can just do a sudo apt-get remove network-manager can't i?
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| 15:03 | since im not using ubuntu-desktop
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| 15:04 | <Hyperbyte> You could do that, yes.
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| 15:04 | Maybe.
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| 15:04 | Not sure about Ubuntu.
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| 15:05 | <matrix3000> and that would fix the issue and then i would know it would not use anything but /etc/network/interfaces
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| 15:05 | <Hyperbyte> I'm 99% sure that would fix all your problems, assuming Ubuntu lets you remove it without issues.
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| 15:05 | I would probably just disable it.
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| 15:07 | <Hyperbyte> Evening job awaits!
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| 15:08 | Bye.
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| 15:14 | <matrix3000> network-manager is not installed on the system
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| 15:31 | <Dantix> mornig Sirs, recently I've upgrade my box to ubuntu 11.10 and lost the DNS resolution at console, tried adding my dns server to resolv.conf with no luck, which file I need to update to get back DNS resolution?
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| 16:15 | <miks> Thanks Hyperbyte, I'll give this a shot tonight! I have previously connected an external monitor and gotten it to work, so I think I can do that again...
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| 17:08 | <Hyperbyte> miks, you're welcome. :)
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| 17:11 | <matrix3000> hey hyperbyte
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| 17:11 | network-manager wasn't installed
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| 18:04 | <mgariepy> hey Gadi
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| 18:04 | anyone knows if alkisg is in the us?
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| 18:05 | <Gadi> he is
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| 18:05 | and hey
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| 18:05 | :)
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| 18:05 | <mgariepy> great :)
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| 18:05 | <Gadi> yeah - this weekend should be fun
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| 18:05 | <mgariepy> when are you arriving at Southwest harbor ?
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| 18:06 | <Gadi> Thu evening
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| 18:06 | <mgariepy> cool
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| 18:06 | <Gadi> you?
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| 18:06 | <mgariepy> thurday evening too,
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| 18:06 | <Gadi> excellent. need anything from NY?
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| 18:07 | <mgariepy> we are going to pick some ppl at bangor airport in the afternoon
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| 18:08 | <Gadi> yeah, Alkis and I will pick up Vagrant in Boston
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| 18:08 | prolly sometime before 3PM
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| 18:08 | so, figure we'll roll into SW Harbor around 8 or so
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| 18:09 | <mgariepy> great i guess we are going to be there at 6 or 7
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| 18:14 | <highvoltage> ♬ On the road again ♬
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| 18:18 | <pscheie> gadi, bring bagels
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| 18:19 | <Gadi> given
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| 18:19 | ;)
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| 18:19 | <pscheie> yum!
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> <Nubae> hey folks
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> some things bothering me.... i'm finally going through my spam/coments for my site nubae.com
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> at first I thought jeez there are a lot of people who really really like whatI write....but then I realised that many posts were repeats such as>: I do not even know how I ended up here, but I thought this post was good. I don't know who you are but certainly you are going to a famous blogger if you are not already ;) Cheers!
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> I suppose they are getting link boosts through the from field
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> does that sound about right?
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> heres an example> http://openoffice-download.net/
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> Brucz8764@gmail.com
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> 173.208.37.115
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| 19:51 | <Nubae> or am i just being overly parannod?
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