IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 19 February 2009 (all times are UTC)
| 00:10 | F-GT has quit IRC | |
| 00:21 | SDuensin has quit IRC | |
| 00:23 | F-GT has joined #ltsp | |
| 00:25 | vagrantc has quit IRC | |
| 00:30 | alkisg has quit IRC | |
| 00:32 | alkisg has joined #ltsp | |
| 00:48 | Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC | |
| 00:50 | Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp | |
| 01:01 | DarKnesS_WolF has joined #ltsp | |
| 02:05 | Nubae has quit IRC | |
| 02:08 | try2free has joined #ltsp | |
| 02:20 | Nubae has joined #ltsp | |
| 02:23 | alkisg has quit IRC | |
| 02:24 | alkisg has joined #ltsp | |
| 02:52 | ScorpKing has joined #ltsp | |
| 02:52 | ScorpKing has left #ltsp | |
| 02:53 | ogra has quit IRC | |
| 02:58 | try2free has left #ltsp | |
| 02:59 | Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC | |
| 03:00 | Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp | |
| 03:02 | li-la has quit IRC | |
| 03:08 | ogra has joined #ltsp | |
| 03:08 | _Shane has joined #ltsp | |
| 03:23 | alkisg has quit IRC | |
| 03:24 | ScorpKing has joined #ltsp | |
| 03:40 | mikkel_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 03:49 | mikkel_ is now known as mikkel | |
| 03:56 | ogra has quit IRC | |
| 03:57 | ogra has joined #ltsp | |
| 04:25 | ogra has quit IRC | |
| 04:29 | bobby_C has joined #ltsp | |
| 04:32 | ogra has joined #ltsp | |
| 04:39 | ogra has quit IRC | |
| 04:40 | ogra has joined #ltsp | |
| 04:46 | F-GT has quit IRC | |
| 04:47 | F-GT has joined #ltsp | |
| 04:58 | mraudsepp has joined #ltsp | |
| 05:01 | pmatulis has joined #ltsp | |
| 05:10 | alkisg has joined #ltsp | |
| 05:17 | alkisg has quit IRC | |
| 05:17 | vaineh has joined #ltsp | |
| 05:19 | <vaineh> hi all, i've got an ubuntu 8.10 ltsp server up and clients booting. one machine however uses a via onboard graphics chip and resolution is not being detected correctyl. where can i find logs from the thin client to find out where its failing??
| |
| 05:26 | vain0r has joined #ltsp | |
| 05:26 | <vain0r> connection died :(
| |
| 05:26 | don't suppose anyone answered did they?
| |
| 05:43 | vaineh has quit IRC | |
| 06:07 | artista-frustrad has joined #ltsp | |
| 06:07 | artista_frustrad has quit IRC | |
| 06:21 | Appiah_ has quit IRC | |
| 06:29 | <pasmen> vain0r: try to look at the thin client in /var/log/Xorg.2.log
| |
| 06:32 | shrek has joined #ltsp | |
| 06:36 | <vain0r> in a shell screen on the thin client or just when logged in to the ltsp server?
| |
| 06:41 | i booted the thin client from an ubuntu cd and that too didnt detect correct resolutions and only let me do 640x480 and 800x600. so presumably i need to get correct drivers for it installed somewhere
| |
| 06:44 | Appiah has joined #ltsp | |
| 06:51 | Remaille has joined #ltsp | |
| 06:51 | BrunoXLambert has joined #ltsp | |
| 06:55 | shrek has quit IRC | |
| 07:02 | slashdotfx has quit IRC | |
| 07:02 | slashdotfx has joined #ltsp | |
| 07:08 | vain0r has quit IRC | |
| 07:15 | alkisg has joined #ltsp | |
| 07:18 | jammcq has quit IRC | |
| 07:21 | vain0r has joined #ltsp | |
| 07:23 | cliebow has joined #ltsp | |
| 07:24 | Remaille has quit IRC | |
| 07:29 | <cliebow> ogra:any channel i can ask question about openldap in intrepid?
| |
| 07:30 | <ogra> cliebow, #ubuntu-server i guess
| |
| 07:30 | <cliebow> thanks..just some stupid little tweak in the configs i need 8~)
| |
| 07:32 | vincent has joined #ltsp | |
| 07:32 | vincent is now known as Guest25660 | |
| 07:55 | DarKnesS_WolF has quit IRC | |
| 08:02 | Appiah has quit IRC | |
| 08:07 | Appiah has joined #ltsp | |
| 08:11 | ScorpKing has quit IRC | |
| 08:15 | ScorpKing has joined #ltsp | |
| 08:29 | jammcq has joined #ltsp | |
| 08:29 | <jammcq> Good morning #ltsp
| |
| 08:43 | <Guest25660> Is it possible to run vlc local on the thin client on the same X display as the xdmcp session with the server ( ubuntu 8.10)
| |
| 08:44 | vvinet has joined #ltsp | |
| 08:49 | <alkisg> Guest25660: you actually use xdmcp or you mean ldm (ltsp display manager)?
| |
| 08:49 | <cliebow> jammcq!!
| |
| 08:49 | <Guest25660> ldm
| |
| 08:49 | artista-frustrad has quit IRC | |
| 08:49 | <alkisg> Guest25660: yes, it is possible, but people usually use italc nowadays, have you seen it?
| |
| 08:50 | <Guest25660> no
| |
| 08:50 | <alkisg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc
| |
| 08:50 | http://italc.sourceforge.net/
| |
| 08:51 | <Guest25660> what has it to do with running a local application?
| |
| 08:51 | <alkisg> The client part gets installed to the chroot, so it runs locally
| |
| 08:51 | It a modified version of vnc
| |
| 08:52 | *it's
| |
| 08:52 | <ogra> vnc != vlc ?
| |
| 08:52 | <alkisg> Ooooh sorry, misread
| |
| 08:52 | <ogra> ;)
| |
| 08:52 | <Guest25660> i want to use vlc (videolan) not vnc
| |
| 08:52 | <alkisg> :(
| |
| 08:52 | <Guest25660> to make a combintation of a stb and thin client
| |
| 08:53 | <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPLocalAppSetup
| |
| 08:53 | <alkisg> OK, localapps is what you need
| |
| 08:53 | bobby_C has quit IRC | |
| 08:54 | <ogra> with 9.04 you wont need anything of that anymore, localapps will be implemented transparently, 8.10 still needs the manual setup
| |
| 08:54 | <Guest25660> thanks
| |
| 08:55 | ScorpKing has quit IRC | |
| 08:56 | jhutchins_ltsp has quit IRC | |
| 08:57 | SDuensin has joined #LTSP | |
| 08:58 | <Guest25660> it's working
| |
| 09:08 | bobby_C has joined #ltsp | |
| 09:09 | alkisg has quit IRC | |
| 09:10 | alkisg has joined #ltsp | |
| 09:11 | Gadi_eeepc has joined #ltsp | |
| 09:15 | CAN-o-SPAM_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 09:33 | <vain0r> im having an issue when i enable a shell in one of my screens_0x... in that when i do, my screen which should start x with ldm is just a black screen with a grey X for a cursor???
| |
| 09:36 | shrek has joined #ltsp | |
| 09:44 | <alkisg> vain0r: AFAIK, in recent ltsp versions you have to set both SCREEN_02=shell and SCREEN_07=ldm. And (again AFAIK) SCREEN_01 should not be used because there are some problems with it.
| |
| 09:45 | <vain0r> ah i'll give ldm a try, id put in startx which i had seen mentioned somewhere :/
| |
| 10:10 | Remaille has joined #ltsp | |
| 10:12 | Remaille has quit IRC | |
| 10:13 | japerry has quit IRC | |
| 10:19 | staffencasa has joined #ltsp | |
| 10:24 | Guest25660 has quit IRC | |
| 10:26 | japerry has joined #ltsp | |
| 10:34 | r1ka has joined #ltsp | |
| 10:34 | <r1ka> hi guys
| |
| 10:35 | i am a k12 linux user, how i can make my server able to serve i386 client?
| |
| 10:36 | carniel has joined #ltsp | |
| 10:36 | <r1ka> or i486
| |
| 10:39 | <Gadi_eeepc> !fedora
| |
| 10:39 | <ltspbot> Gadi_eeepc: Error: "fedora" is not a valid command.
| |
| 10:39 | <Gadi_eeepc> !k12linux
| |
| 10:39 | <ltspbot> Gadi_eeepc: Error: "k12linux" is not a valid command.
| |
| 10:40 | <Gadi_eeepc> oh, well
| |
| 10:40 | !docs
| |
| 10:40 | <ltspbot> Gadi_eeepc: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
| |
| 10:40 | <Gadi_eeepc> r1ka: ^^
| |
| 10:40 | that may help get you started
| |
| 10:41 | <r1ka> heh, i just wanted the right way to make it 'just works', manual compiling is not right way i think, but this is a last way idea :(
| |
| 10:41 | <Gadi_eeepc> manually compiling?
| |
| 10:42 | where do you get that?
| |
| 10:42 | <r1ka> because k12linux ships images only for i586 as i can see :(
| |
| 10:42 | <Gadi_eeepc> oh really?
| |
| 10:43 | well, you should be able to chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
| |
| 10:43 | and yum install a 386 kernel
| |
| 10:43 | then exit out of the chroot
| |
| 10:43 | and: ltsp-update-kernels
| |
| 10:44 | <r1ka> how i can do this? :-[ and my i586 kernels will be erased or not :-[ sorry for my stupid
| |
| 10:44 | and yum install a 386 kernel << i talking about this point
| |
| 10:45 | <johnny> Gadi_eeepc, will ltsp really run on a real 386?
| |
| 10:45 | lol
| |
| 10:45 | r1ka, your clients need about 128MB ram btw
| |
| 10:45 | for optimal performance..
| |
| 10:45 | _Shane has left #ltsp | |
| 10:46 | <r1ka> i have lots of SDRAM modules, but only i386\486 processors :(
| |
| 10:46 | i486 i mean
| |
| 10:46 | <johnny> i doubt those systems can take enough ram
| |
| 10:47 | <r1ka> i486 can take up to 256
| |
| 10:47 | dont know about i386 btw
| |
| 10:48 | <johnny> fedora's binaries may actually be i386 (or i486) compiled with i586 optimizations
| |
| 10:48 | so.. the might actually run
| |
| 10:48 | they*
| |
| 10:48 | Ahmuck has quit IRC | |
| 10:50 | <r1ka> i have much of i586\i686 based machines they works fine but when i tried to boot celeron 333MHz based board i got failed :(
| |
| 10:50 | Gadi has joined #ltsp | |
| 10:51 | <johnny> 333.. that is i686
| |
| 10:51 | isn't it?
| |
| 10:51 | that is a different problem i imagine
| |
| 10:52 | <r1ka> same board with cel 500MHz work okay
| |
| 10:52 | Gadi_eeepc has quit IRC | |
| 10:52 | <r1ka> works
| |
| 10:52 | Gadi_eeepc1 has joined #ltsp | |
| 10:52 | <r1ka> and only with 64MB of memory
| |
| 10:52 | <johnny> which ltsp are you using?
| |
| 10:52 | ltsp4?
| |
| 10:52 | Gadi_eeepc1 is now known as Gadi_eeepc | |
| 10:52 | <johnny> that might work...
| |
| 10:53 | with 64 that is
| |
| 10:53 | <r1ka> k12linux based on ltsp5 afaik
| |
| 10:53 | actual versions i mean
| |
| 10:53 | <johnny> hmm.. interesting.. i'm suprised it isn't failing harder
| |
| 10:53 | i think we were yelled at that it couldn't boot that low
| |
| 10:53 | <Gadi_eeepc> r1ka: sorry my wireless crapped out
| |
| 10:54 | * johnny steals Gadi's eeepc | |
| 10:54 | <Gadi_eeepc> r1ka: you can chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
| |
| 10:54 | and yum innstall a 386 kernel
| |
| 10:54 | <johnny> if i was netadmin.. i would have then removed _eeepc froo your nick.. hehe
| |
| 10:54 | <Gadi_eeepc> hehe
| |
| 10:54 | <mraudsepp> I'm getting reports that k12linux doesn't boot our 433MHz ThinCan for some guys when it boots some other systems. And Edubuntu works for me, need to test k12 here
| |
| 10:54 | <johnny> where is the real Gadi !
| |
| 10:54 | <r1ka> i can compose a list of hardware wich i using for u interest but i wanted to make my old crap (slot A celerons and celerons < 500 MHz) worked
| |
| 10:55 | <mraudsepp> it installs a 686 kernel by default?
| |
| 10:55 | <r1ka> i586
| |
| 10:55 | <mraudsepp> I think our geode LX should be able to handle it though
| |
| 10:55 | <johnny> damnit.. i need a mouse pad
| |
| 10:55 | <Gadi_eeepc> yeah
| |
| 10:55 | <r1ka> blah-blah-initrd.i568
| |
| 10:55 | <mraudsepp> (sorry for kind-of hijacking the discussion ;d)
| |
| 10:55 | <Gadi_eeepc> geode lx should be 586
| |
| 10:56 | <johnny> oh.. here it comes
| |
| 10:56 | <mraudsepp> http://pastebin.ca/1342080
| |
| 10:56 | err, client side hangs after the point the text ends
| |
| 10:58 | <Gadi_eeepc> I think the thincans needed some particular elf image format to work
| |
| 10:58 | or some such
| |
| 10:58 | Q-FUNK would know
| |
| 10:59 | vain0r has quit IRC | |
| 11:01 | <zanikus> does anyone know how to fix the issue where the kernel hangs on or just after starting the bluetooth service? i've tried all the fixes i could find but no luck. using ubuntu hardy as the ltsp server. any help would be greatly appreciated - this problem has been driving me nuts! thin client works good, but this fat client i built wont boot past bluetooth.
| |
| 11:01 | <r1ka> so other question... how i can serve two subnets of ltsp clients on my k12linux? just bridge virtual ethernet adapter (ltspbr0) to two real?
| |
| 11:02 | and wich correctives i must provide for dhcp and other configs..
| |
| 11:02 | <johnny> zanikus, remove bluetooth?
| |
| 11:03 | warren has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:03 | <warren> CAN-o-SPAM_: good news for you
| |
| 11:03 | CAN-o-SPAM_: Dell's Atom thin client is horribly expensive and sucks terribly
| |
| 11:04 | <r1ka> lol
| |
| 11:04 | <zanikus> johnny, i tried commenting out suspected parts of the init.d script for btooth. removed it S and K's from all run levels. added exit 0 to the top of the init.d script. tried kernel options noapic, no noiapic and no acpi. no matter what btooth tries to start and hangs. i suppose it could be the next service that is hanging up but from what ive read this btooth hang is a common issue on regular installs.
| |
| 11:05 | <Gadi_eeepc> zanikus: blacklist the module
| |
| 11:05 | <zanikus> tried that too
| |
| 11:05 | <Gadi_eeepc> remove the package
| |
| 11:06 | <zanikus> im not new to linux, but ltsp is new. i'm just chrooting to my fat client environment and making the changes in there, not the host os so I think im doing that part right at least
| |
| 11:06 | <Gadi_eeepc> rerolling the image?
| |
| 11:06 | (if using ubuntu)
| |
| 11:07 | <zanikus> sorry, new to ltsp... what is rerolling? do i need to do that before my changes to the chrooted file system take affect?
| |
| 11:07 | <johnny> yes
| |
| 11:07 | nbd
| |
| 11:07 | <zanikus> damnit
| |
| 11:07 | no wonder it seemed like it didnt do a damn thing
| |
| 11:07 | <johnny> they are compressed , so they can be served to the client faster
| |
| 11:07 | <zanikus> ahhhh...
| |
| 11:07 | <johnny> that's the simpe explanation anyways
| |
| 11:07 | <zanikus> makes perfect sense
| |
| 11:07 | <Gadi_eeepc> sudo ltsp-update-image
| |
| 11:08 | <johnny> Gadi, don't you need to pass an arg to use /opt/ltsp/fati386
| |
| 11:08 | or whatever the chroot is
| |
| 11:08 | <Gadi_eeepc> ah, yes
| |
| 11:08 | what johnny said
| |
| 11:08 | <zanikus> many thx guys, i can fumble thru the cli args to make it fly
| |
| 11:09 | <Gadi_eeepc> have a look at /usr/sbin/ltsp-update-image
| |
| 11:09 | you'll see the cli flags
| |
| 11:09 | its a shell script
| |
| 11:09 | <zanikus> sweet
| |
| 11:09 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> warren: i like, why does it suck?
| |
| 11:10 | <warren> CAN-o-SPAM_: double price, half the RAM standard, and SiS video. they're shipping it using the vesa driver.
| |
| 11:10 | big pile of lose
| |
| 11:10 | <johnny> SiS is still a company? hehe
| |
| 11:10 | i'm suprised they are still alive
| |
| 11:10 | <warren> I warned Dell not to do this a year ago.
| |
| 11:10 | They didn't listen.
| |
| 11:10 | chrisinajar has quit IRC | |
| 11:11 | <johnny> i wonder how much money they saved..
| |
| 11:11 | <warren> CAN-o-SPAM_: to be honest I worried for your company with dell coming out with this, but now that I see it, it is laughable.
| |
| 11:11 | chrisinajar has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:11 | spectra has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:11 | <warren> johnny: how much they saved in return for a product that is unsellable?
| |
| 11:11 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> warren: by all means, spread the wrods
| |
| 11:11 | word
| |
| 11:11 | <johnny> sure..
| |
| 11:11 | <_UsUrPeR_> you warned Dell? :)
| |
| 11:11 | <johnny> but i mean instead of using intel video
| |
| 11:11 | <_UsUrPeR_> I warned Bush about Iraq...
| |
| 11:11 | <johnny> or something else standard
| |
| 11:12 | yeah.. warren was dining with michael dell ..hehe
| |
| 11:12 | <_UsUrPeR_> I KNEW IT!
| |
| 11:12 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: yes, I warned them
| |
| 11:12 | _UsUrPeR_: good load of help that was
| |
| 11:13 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> selective hearing is a nice trait
| |
| 11:13 | <johnny> warren, were you warning anybody who had the power to make such decisions ?
| |
| 11:13 | <warren> johnny: no clue
| |
| 11:13 | <johnny> then you weren't really warning them :)
| |
| 11:13 | <warren> well, I don't care
| |
| 11:14 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> whatever ... moral of this story ... DON't Buy Dell ... BUY Diskless!
| |
| 11:14 | <r1ka> O_O
| |
| 11:15 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> (unless your interested in a hard drive)
| |
| 11:16 | <johnny> i haven't bought anything.. we can't afford it
| |
| 11:16 | chrisinajar has quit IRC | |
| 11:16 | <johnny> we just have 4 PCs :)
| |
| 11:16 | <r1ka> f*kng i486 :(
| |
| 11:16 | chrisinajar has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:18 | <zanikus> one last question and i think im good.... ive built a few chrooted directories and basically killed them trying to fix my bluetooth woes... i can't sudo rm -rf them - some files wont delete. anyone know a good way to trash those directories?
| |
| 11:19 | <johnny> for example?
| |
| 11:20 | <zanikus> proc, sys and usr under /opt/ltsp/fatti386
| |
| 11:21 | <Gadi_eeepc> zanikus: chroot in and unmount them
| |
| 11:21 | <alkisg> gpxe supports directly loading a kernel/initrd from tftp or even http. I try to bypass pxelinux.0 and directly load vmlinuz, but I get this error: http://users.sch.gr/alkisg/temp/gpxe.png Should I specify a root=... parameter?
| |
| 11:21 | <johnny> usr is different..
| |
| 11:21 | yeah.. loading over http would be nice..
| |
| 11:22 | evarlast has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:22 | <evarlast> is there an ltsp-update-client to move between ltsp releases?
| |
| 11:22 | <alkisg> johnny: I've done it before... I just don't remember how :(
| |
| 11:23 | <johnny> evarlast, no need.. just chroot in and use your distro tools
| |
| 11:23 | but if you upgrade host distributions.. just rm -rf it, and start over
| |
| 11:39 | r1ka has quit IRC | |
| 11:40 | <alkisg> Ah, relief, gpxe git-head probably has a bug, the last release works OK. :)
| |
| 11:43 | mraudsepp has quit IRC | |
| 11:51 | redspike_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:53 | CaScAdE^1arAway has quit IRC | |
| 11:53 | redspike has quit IRC | |
| 11:53 | synchris has quit IRC | |
| 11:53 | Shingoshi has quit IRC | |
| 11:53 | oh207_ has quit IRC | |
| 11:55 | oh207_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:55 | CaScAdE^1arAway has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:55 | synchris has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:55 | Shingoshi has joined #ltsp | |
| 11:56 | <sistemas> guys
| |
| 11:56 | ldm dont work
| |
| 12:03 | vagrantc has joined #ltsp | |
| 12:08 | warren has left #ltsp | |
| 12:10 | CAN-o-SPAM_ has quit IRC | |
| 12:11 | shrek has quit IRC | |
| 12:13 | <johnny> nyu is occupied ..
| |
| 12:13 | mikkel has quit IRC | |
| 12:13 | <johnny> the students have taken it
| |
| 12:17 | juliano_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 12:21 | <juliano_> Hi for all, I try to use rdesktop in LTSP-5 I set SCREEN_07=rdesktop and RD_SERVER=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx but my client don't connect, is there any other information about this ?
| |
| 12:22 | ops, RDP_SERVER
| |
| 12:28 | <vagrantc> juliano_: oops, as in you mistyped it in IRC, or as in you mistyped it in the configuration file?
| |
| 12:29 | <juliano_> vagrantc, lts.conf
| |
| 12:29 | Gadi_eeepc has quit IRC | |
| 12:32 | Gadi_eeepc has joined #ltsp | |
| 12:35 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I want to put Debian in an old PC, for my kids to play games and for me to see ltsp in debian. What should I put, testing or sid? Is ltsp in testing regularly updated? (now that lenny is out :))
| |
| 12:36 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i haven't made any uploads to debian since lenny released.
| |
| 12:36 | <alkisg> Ah, so even sid is somewhat out of date?
| |
| 12:37 | <vagrantc> alkisg: but typically there will be at least 10 days for an upload to migrate from unstable/sid to testing/squeeze ... there's also some packages in experimental which work fine with lenny
| |
| 12:37 | ujinsky has joined #ltsp | |
| 12:37 | <alkisg> vagrantc: so, if testing usually has a-month-old ltsp, I'm fine with it :)
| |
| 12:38 | <vagrantc> alkisg: right now, testing has a 6+ month old LTSP, but you can pull ltsp-specific things from experimental...
| |
| 12:38 | <alkisg> Ah, I can do that? OK then, I'll install testing and see how this is done later on. Thanks!
| |
| 12:38 | <vagrantc> alkisg: you get to have fun games with apt pinning :)
| |
| 12:38 | <ujinsky> hi all
| |
| 12:41 | <sistemas> hi
| |
| 12:43 | <alkisg> vagrantc: and for ltsp testing, it's gnome-only, right? No kde/xfce, not even without sound/localdevs?
| |
| 12:45 | <ujinsky> help! i need help with starting LTSP 4.2 on Intel D945GCLF system
| |
| 12:46 | sistemas has quit IRC | |
| 12:50 | <ujinsky> Problem with start X on the thin client.
| |
| 12:51 | Lns has joined #ltsp | |
| 12:51 | <ujinsky> for more information about my test-system - http://community.livejournal.com/ru_root/1697580.html
| |
| 12:52 | <vagrantc> alkisg: ??
| |
| 12:52 | alkisg: i mostly test with icewm
| |
| 12:57 | <alkisg> Hm... I must have understood something wrong... ok, I'll try, ty
| |
| 13:04 | artista_frustrad has joined #ltsp | |
| 13:09 | aledec has joined #ltsp | |
| 13:16 | ujinsky has quit IRC | |
| 13:27 | <juliano_> Any body here get this message: xauth: creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority
| |
| 13:29 | Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC | |
| 13:35 | <Lns> juliano_: afaik that's totally normal
| |
| 13:36 | Ahmuck has joined #ltsp | |
| 13:36 | <juliano_> Lns, but ldm don't start.
| |
| 13:36 | <Lns> juliano_: that message above is most likely unrelated
| |
| 13:42 | <Gadi_eeepc> juliano_: set XSERVER=vesa in lts.conf
| |
| 13:42 | * Gadi_eeepc bets your Xserver is just failing to start | |
| 13:43 | Gadi_eeepc1 has joined #ltsp | |
| 13:43 | Gadi_eeepc has quit IRC | |
| 13:47 | <Lns> Gadi: is it safe to assume VESA will *always* work, given there's no hardware / other config issues?
| |
| 13:48 | err, Gadi_eeepc1 ^^
| |
| 13:53 | <Gadi_eeepc1> with standard res monitors
| |
| 13:54 | yes
| |
| 13:54 | with widescreen, no
| |
| 14:00 | alkisg has quit IRC | |
| 14:03 | alkisg has joined #ltsp | |
| 14:07 | <Lns> ah
| |
| 14:08 | vagrantc has quit IRC | |
| 14:15 | BrunoXLambert has quit IRC | |
| 14:19 | litlebuda has joined #ltsp | |
| 14:24 | sistemas has joined #ltsp | |
| 14:24 | <sistemas> hi
| |
| 14:24 | <Lns> hello sistemas
| |
| 14:24 | <sistemas> im trying kiwi
| |
| 14:25 | cliebow has quit IRC | |
| 14:30 | <sistemas> i have a ltsp server
| |
| 14:30 | with 20 clients
| |
| 14:30 | and it work fine
| |
| 14:30 | but it use suse 10.0
| |
| 14:30 | i want to update the server and use suse 11.1
| |
| 14:30 | and ltsp5
| |
| 14:30 | but ltsp5 is to slow
| |
| 14:31 | do you know why?
| |
| 14:31 | do you think is better work with suse 11.1 and ltsp4
| |
| 14:31 | ?
| |
| 14:32 | <stgraber> Gadi: hmm, isn't ltspfs supposed to mount the usb keys with the sync parameter ?
| |
| 14:32 | <sistemas> ltsp configuration is too confuse
| |
| 14:32 | carniel has quit IRC | |
| 14:36 | <Lns> sistemas: Not many people here are SuSE people - might wanna try the suse/kiwi chans
| |
| 14:36 | <johnny> sistemas, try LDM_DIRECTX=Y
| |
| 14:36 | in your lts.conf
| |
| 14:38 | <Gadi_eeepc1> stgraber: why?
| |
| 14:38 | Gadi_eeepc1 is now known as Gadi_eeepc | |
| 14:39 | <sistemas> johny whats that
| |
| 14:39 | directx
| |
| 14:40 | Enabling LDM_DIRECTX=True For Faster Sessions on Gutsy Serve
| |
| 14:40 | ok
| |
| 14:41 | <johnny> sistemas, it does mean anybody who has access to your network can see what people are doing exactly
| |
| 14:41 | and sniff it
| |
| 14:42 | that's the reason why it is disabled by default.. security
| |
| 14:43 | <sistemas> mmmmmmmmmmmmmm good
| |
| 14:43 | here i dont need security i need velocity
| |
| 14:43 | speed
| |
| 14:45 | ujinsky has joined #ltsp | |
| 14:47 | <sistemas> ltsp4 server run very very fast
| |
| 14:47 | and ltsp5 is very slow since loading kernel
| |
| 14:49 | and kde refresh screen slow
| |
| 14:53 | Gadi_eeepc1 has joined #ltsp | |
| 14:53 | Gadi_eeepc has quit IRC | |
| 14:54 | rjune_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 15:00 | <stgraber> Gadi: hmm, so that you don't loose what you just wrote when you unplug it ? :)
| |
| 15:00 | Gadi: as you can't unmount it when you're done
| |
| 15:02 | <Gadi_eeepc1> I dont see how sync will help if you just yank your usb stick before the write cycle finishes
| |
| 15:02 | and ltspfs unmounts every couple of seconds, so the buffer shuld be flushed just like a sync
| |
| 15:02 | afaik
| |
| 15:05 | talntid has joined #ltsp | |
| 15:08 | spectra has quit IRC | |
| 15:11 | juliano_ has quit IRC | |
| 15:11 | <talntid> hi all.
| |
| 15:11 | anyone around?
| |
| 15:12 | <johnny> !ask
| |
| 15:12 | <ltspbot> johnny: "ask" is Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
| |
| 15:12 | <talntid> I'm not asking a question. heh
| |
| 15:12 | was just seeing if anyone was here.... :)
| |
| 15:12 | <johnny> even people who are here
| |
| 15:12 | like me
| |
| 15:13 | might not answer that
| |
| 15:13 | <talntid> i suppose :)
| |
| 15:13 | actually i think i will ask something i ask every once in a while and never get answered... :P
| |
| 15:14 | I have VNC setup on my thin clients. anyone have a client that shows multiple clients screens at once?
| |
| 15:14 | they all have the same password
| |
| 15:15 | <johnny> italc doesn't multipel screens at once..
| |
| 15:16 | <talntid> i couldn't get italc working anyhow... tried for a while...
| |
| 15:16 | it looks like a good product, but hard to get working..
| |
| 15:16 | <johnny> i'm sure they can help
| |
| 15:17 | directly
| |
| 15:17 | if nobody can here
| |
| 15:17 | that kinda of thing is not allowed at our store
| |
| 15:17 | so i don't use it..
| |
| 15:17 | and didn't learn how
| |
| 15:17 | <talntid> gotcha.
| |
| 15:17 | if i remember correctly, someone here is actually a developer for italc..
| |
| 15:17 | <johnny> it's an internet cafe, and nobody wanted to allow any worker behind the counter to look inconspicuously at someone screen
| |
| 15:18 | <talntid> but i didn't have much luck getting it to work
| |
| 15:18 | <johnny> i don't think so
| |
| 15:18 | <talntid> ah, true.
| |
| 15:18 | <johnny> i only think packagers and integrators are here
| |
| 15:18 | not developers
| |
| 15:18 | <talntid> maybe
| |
| 15:19 | cause they only have a "tenative" manual, and half the setup instructions are in windowsw
| |
| 15:20 | oh well :)
| |
| 15:21 | <johnny> sure.. try their channel maybe?
| |
| 15:21 | <talntid> nobody there :)
| |
| 15:22 | um
| |
| 15:22 | http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=ITALC_in_a_ThinClient_environment
| |
| 15:23 | i never noticed that before
| |
| 15:26 | <alkisg> talntid: have you seen any italc screenshots? It does display all the clients' screens, albeit in thumbnails...
| |
| 15:27 | <talntid> right. that's great
| |
| 15:27 | if it would work :P
| |
| 15:27 | <alkisg> ...and there are some scripts (at least in ubuntu) to make it easier to work under ltsp
| |
| 15:27 | E.g. automatic client discovery, auto aligning the clients etc
| |
| 15:29 | <talntid> ah cool
| |
| 15:29 | are you familiar with it? if so, can i hire your services?
| |
| 15:30 | <alkisg> Heh... I am familiar with it, but it's really simple to get going (at least for the default ubuntu install), no need for hiring or anything :)
| |
| 15:31 | Default install = it runs on the servers => can only see the clients after they log on
| |
| 15:31 | <talntid> i have a ltsp server, named ltsp1...
| |
| 15:31 | it is in a Xen virtual environment
| |
| 15:33 | so, to clarify though...
| |
| 15:33 | i install italc on the server
| |
| 15:34 | hmm, i'm attempting it again. via the wiki
| |
| 15:35 | the Applications->System Tools->iTalc ..
| |
| 15:35 | <alkisg> talntid: no, don't use this wiki. Is your distro ubuntu?
| |
| 15:35 | <talntid> yes, ubuntu
| |
| 15:35 | <alkisg> version?
| |
| 15:36 | <johnny> stupid bzr
| |
| 15:36 | <talntid> 8.10
| |
| 15:36 | <johnny> their rss feed title has funny characters
| |
| 15:36 | err sorry
| |
| 15:36 | stupid launchpad :)
| |
| 15:36 | <talntid> Linux ltsp1 2.6.24-17-xen #1 SMP Thu May 1 15:55:31 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
| |
| 15:36 | <johnny> or maybe even.. stupid loggerhead.. not sure..
| |
| 15:36 | <alkisg> talntid: put the italc ppa into your sources.list. Then just install, nothing else to configure
| |
| 15:36 | <talntid> hmm
| |
| 15:37 | <alkisg> talntid: https://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-italc-devel/+archive/ppa
| |
| 15:37 | <talntid> have never added one that looked like that
| |
| 15:38 | <alkisg> Well, if you _visit_ that url you'll find this: The Intrepid Ibex The Hardy Heron deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/edubuntu-italc-devel/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
| |
| 15:41 | <talntid> gotcha.
| |
| 15:41 | reading
| |
| 15:42 | <alkisg> talntid: it contains fixes for autodetection, localization, avahi registration and other things that are not in 8.10. Do prefer this one over the official repositories. :)
| |
| 15:44 | <talntid> nice :)
| |
| 15:44 | i'm currently reading on how to enter the ppa key
| |
| 15:45 | since i don't have a graphical interface. hehe
| |
| 15:45 | <alkisg> talntid: no need; you'll just be prompted to press an additional "y"
| |
| 15:45 | <talntid> ah
| |
| 15:45 | sweet
| |
| 15:47 | hmm
| |
| 15:47 | should i just aptitude install libitalc italc-client italc-master then?
| |
| 15:47 | vvinet has quit IRC | |
| 15:48 | <alkisg> If you added the ppa into your sources.list (or sources.list.d), yes, that would be enough
| |
| 15:48 | <talntid> says it's keeping same version, which is why i thought it is odd
| |
| 15:49 | <alkisg> Maybe aptitude behaves differently than apt-get? Try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade...
| |
| 15:50 | Erm, sorry, not upgrade, apt-get install :)
| |
| 15:50 | <talntid> yeah i did update right after i added to sources.list...
| |
| 15:50 | i just purged it, i'll reinstall it
| |
| 15:55 | reinstalled...
| |
| 15:56 | <alkisg> OK, now you need to logon a user in a TC.
| |
| 15:57 | <talntid> i have one sitting beside me...
| |
| 15:57 | it's logged in
| |
| 15:58 | <alkisg> The script runs while the user logs in, so you have to logoff + logon again
| |
| 15:58 | <talntid> it automatically installs a script somehow?
| |
| 15:59 | <alkisg> Yes, it's installed now. ica-launcher for clients, italc-launcher for the "watcher"
| |
| 15:59 | <talntid> hmm.
| |
| 15:59 | <alkisg> It runs automatically
| |
| 15:59 | (ica-launcher)
| |
| 16:00 | <talntid> i just rebooted the client for good measure
| |
| 16:00 | logging in now
| |
| 16:01 | k, logged in.
| |
| 16:03 | confirmed. ica-launcher is running on that client
| |
| 16:04 | <alkisg> OK, run italc-launcher from the menu ("italc master interface")
| |
| 16:04 | <talntid> from the thin client?
| |
| 16:05 | <alkisg> I usually sit on the server, but I think you can run it from a (another) thin client
| |
| 16:05 | <talntid> No authentication-keys were found or your old ones were broken. Please create a new key-pair using ICA
| |
| 16:06 | <alkisg> That's probably because you already had installed it previously.
| |
| 16:06 | <talntid> it never ran properly. that's the error that always kicked my ass
| |
| 16:08 | http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Setup_authentication_keys
| |
| 16:08 | should I do that? :)
| |
| 16:11 | <alkisg> Yeah, looks good. Alternatively you could just uninstall it, delete your existing keys and reinstall it! :P :D
| |
| 16:11 | <talntid> which would you do? :)
| |
| 16:11 | that didn't work, the link i sent you :P
| |
| 16:12 | i typed that on the server, it did it's stuff, and no-go
| |
| 16:14 | hmm
| |
| 16:14 | i may have fixed it
| |
| 16:14 | lemme seee
| |
| 16:16 | sistemas_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 16:16 | <talntid> hmm
| |
| 16:16 | still not
| |
| 16:17 | <alkisg> Me? I'd uninstall, delete keys, reinstall, and reboot server + TC. That would be stupid, but I prefer safe+stupid, it saves time... :)
| |
| 16:18 | <talntid> yeah ;)
| |
| 16:18 | i don't mind doing that either.
| |
| 16:20 | k, i think it is purged
| |
| 16:21 | any way to confirm it?
| |
| 16:21 | /etc/italc/keys are missing..
| |
| 16:21 | now
| |
| 16:21 | also, when reinstalling, it says it has unmet dependencies...
| |
| 16:22 | <alkisg> What would that be?
| |
| 16:24 | sistemas__ has joined #ltsp | |
| 16:24 | <sistemas__> hi
| |
| 16:24 | <talntid> pastbining it
| |
| 16:24 | http://pastebin.com/m5e83247f
| |
| 16:26 | <alkisg> talntid: what does `dpkg -l libqt4-network` give you? e.g. I have 4.4.3-0ubuntu1.1. If you don't have it, yes, you should install it.
| |
| 16:28 | <talntid> No packages found matching libqt4-network.
| |
| 16:28 | <alkisg> OK, say "y", to install all the dependencies
| |
| 16:28 | <talntid> it doesn't install 'em
| |
| 16:29 | and apt-cache can't find them
| |
| 16:29 | aledec has quit IRC | |
| 16:29 | <alkisg> Erm... I don't know anything about that... you said you don't have a gui (to use synaptic)?
| |
| 16:30 | <talntid> i can
| |
| 16:30 | using ssh -X
| |
| 16:30 | <alkisg> Give it a try...
| |
| 16:30 | <talntid> its open :)
| |
| 16:30 | i never use synaptic. hehe
| |
| 16:30 | sistemas has quit IRC | |
| 16:31 | <talntid> searches for "libqt4-network" -- no results
| |
| 16:31 | looks like i need to add hardy-backports
| |
| 16:31 | <alkisg> ubottu: libqt4-network (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 network module. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.3-0ubuntu1.1 (intrepid), package size 427 kB, installed size 1132
| |
| 16:32 | <talntid> into my sources.list -- can you check your sources list and show me the hardy-backports line?
| |
| 16:33 | <alkisg> There's a checkbox for that in synaptic :)
| |
| 16:33 | mine is: deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
| |
| 16:39 | sistemas__ has quit IRC | |
| 16:39 | schregge has joined #ltsp | |
| 16:39 | <schregge> hi
| |
| 16:40 | sistemas_ has quit IRC | |
| 16:41 | <schregge> how can i start the saned daemon for a specific thinclient in ubuntu 8.10 (XINETD_SERVICES=saned does not work
| |
| 16:42 | <talntid> hmmmmm
| |
| 16:42 | so now it sees them....
| |
| 16:42 | but doesn't install them. says uninstallable
| |
| 16:42 | <alkisg> Heh... no wonder italc wasn't working before... :)
| |
| 16:43 | <talntid> guess so ;)
| |
| 16:47 | alkisg has quit IRC | |
| 16:52 | <talntid> hmmm
| |
| 16:52 | kickin my arse again. :P
| |
| 16:57 | bobby_C has quit IRC | |
| 17:13 | <talntid> i installed a package, it had unmet dependencies..
| |
| 17:13 | now if i try to remove it, it tries to remove 26 essential packages. ouch
| |
| 17:21 | vagrantc has joined #ltsp | |
| 17:24 | schregge has quit IRC | |
| 17:26 | aledec has joined #ltsp | |
| 17:38 | Ahmuck has quit IRC | |
| 18:02 | jammcq has quit IRC | |
| 18:03 | x3_SteveFromAcco has joined #ltsp | |
| 18:03 | shogunx has quit IRC | |
| 18:03 | x3_SteveFromAcco has quit IRC | |
| 18:09 | japerry has quit IRC | |
| 18:09 | Lns has quit IRC | |
| 18:10 | vagrantc_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 18:16 | shogunx has joined #ltsp | |
| 18:26 | vagrantc has quit IRC | |
| 18:34 | otavio_ has joined #ltsp | |
| 18:35 | otavio has quit IRC | |
| 18:39 | pmatulis has quit IRC | |
| 18:47 | evarlast has left #ltsp | |
| 18:52 | staffencasa has quit IRC | |
| 18:59 | vagrantc_ has quit IRC | |
| 18:59 | vagrantc has joined #ltsp | |
| 19:04 | ltspbot has joined #ltsp | |
| 19:07 | vvinet has joined #ltsp | |
| 19:14 | litlebuda has quit IRC | |
| 19:36 | aglio2 has quit IRC | |
| 19:38 | vagrantc has quit IRC | |
| 19:41 | japerry has joined #ltsp | |
| 20:25 | w0lter has joined #ltsp | |
| 20:25 | w0lter has left #ltsp | |
| 20:26 | otavio_ has quit IRC | |
| 20:27 | yotux has joined #ltsp | |
| 20:28 | <yotux> I installed ltsp and on my thin client it is telling me image file to large for low memory
| |
| 20:32 | synchris_odium has joined #ltsp | |
| 20:34 | synchris has quit IRC | |
| 21:02 | wigwam has quit IRC | |
| 21:07 | wigwam has joined #ltsp | |
| 21:13 | try2free has joined #ltsp | |
| 21:30 | wigwam has quit IRC | |
| 21:35 | wigwam has joined #ltsp | |
| 21:40 | brendan0powers has joined #ltsp | |
| 21:40 | brendan0powers has left #ltsp | |
| 21:46 | hanthana has joined #ltsp | |
| 22:05 | CaScAdE^1arAway has quit IRC | |
| 22:31 | <talntid> alkisg, I don't suppose you're currently around?
| |
| 22:32 | jammcq has joined #ltsp | |
| 22:33 | <johnny> talntid, he's in greece.. so probably not quite yet
| |
| 22:33 | close tho
| |
| 22:37 | try2free has quit IRC | |
| 22:58 | <talntid> hehe
| |
| 23:16 | vvinet has quit IRC | |
| 23:41 | delta9 has joined #ltsp | |
| 23:42 | delta9 has quit IRC | |
| 23:56 | alkisg has joined #ltsp | |